Here is a link to some more case studies over at Linuxcare. ---
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I guess my little hint to read their privacy policy didn't help much. But to sum it up, they don't give out any of your personal information without your consent. All personal information is removed by the unit before it is sent back to TiVo, even TiVo doesn't receive this personal info. So, before you go around spreading FUD, I would suggest that you check your facts a little more closely. In fact, I think this entire thread should be marked down because of its irresponsible accusations! ---
Not that you really deserve an answer, but here is a link to a story outlining the use of Linux for the Titanic movie. Here is the link. ---
Re:Are you sure you want to get excited about this
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Did any of you bother to actually read the policy statement at TiVo before trying to brand them? ---
Info on the changes made to the kernel...
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I did a little research and sent an email to the TiVo folks. Here is what they had to say. Enjoy...
Subject: RE: Operating System used for TiVo? Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:19:11 -0700
Dear Sean,
Yes, it's Linux, and your timing is perfect. We just got finished creating our Tar.balls. I can get you the exact details of the code that is available per the GPL, but basically it is performance tweaks, and priority tweaks, to make Linux more of a Real-time OS. There is also a bunch of stuff to make it work with our transactional file system, and other stuff. I'll try to get you the full details, and if you want a burn of the CD, I'll try to get that ready, too. We are going to charge some nominal fee for this, but I'm not sure what that is, yet.
Oh, all tweaks are for Linux on the PowerPC chip.
Let me know if you have any specific questions.
Cheers, Richard Bullwinkle TiVo Webmaster
-----Original Message----- From: sean@sks-pc.cs.kau.se [mailto:sean@sks-pc.cs.kau.se]On Behalf Of Sean Kendall Schneyer Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 4:56 PM To: CustomerCare@TiVo.com Subject: Operating System used for TiVo?
I read in a recent article that you were using Linux as the operating system for TiVo. I was unable to find anything to confirm this on your website however. Is Linux actually being used? If so, what changes were needed to the kernel to support your device? Is the source code for these changes available (required under the GPL)? I would be very interested in receiving more details.
I looked through the pages listed and could not find any reference to the use of Common Lisp. Could you please point me to a reference somewhere saying they are using Lisp? I would be quite interested in this information. ---
The scripts that calculate the team totals are broken, so it is actually impossible to know how far Team Slashdot really is ahead of Microsoft. It is really starting to annoy me that they haven't fixed this yet though since it causes Team Sweden to be ranked much lower than it should be. ---
If we were dealing with their awesome programmers we would be having these problems... I guess all the awesome coders were working on other projects instead. ---
Actually, if it were a reference to the current directory then it would be dotslash and not slashdot... guess you aren't as clever as you thought. I'm beginning to think that slashduh really is appropriate for this place. ---
Have you guys also fixed the bug that causes the results received not to add up to all the units for each team member? It appears that it just takes the number of units that each member of a team had at the time of joining the team! ---
But the mindcraft study was between Linux and NT, so in this context it would be pointless. Now if you wanted to use if for a completely new study then that is a different story. ---
Difference between Troll and Flamebait?
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What is the difference between these options? Also, reading a previous post, why does Redundant give + points? Redundancy is a bad thing, why would I want to read the same thing over and over and over? ---
Well, to tell you the truth. It really doesn't surprise me. I've been convinced for a while now that this place was crawling with the script kiddy type and I guess now I've been proven right. Kinda sad if you ask me. ---
You must be dreaming, because I don't see an easy way of getting someone elses password since the password is mailed to the email address of the owner. So, unless you can intercept other peoples email, I don't see any way for you to get other peoples passwords. ---
I just had a nice little chat with Bert (the user with the 7 minute averate). It turns out that it is caused by a bug in software (running on Winblows 95 of course). He said that it reaches 1% then jumps to 100%, so he stopped using it about 3 days ago. He also said that he didn't know anything about being added to Team Slashdot. ---
I wouldn't put too much value in the current ranking of the teams. The work units are not being added up correctly. Take a look at Team Sweden to see what I mean. You can see the stats for Team Sweden here. For the team it shows the total work units as 62, but the the top team member it shows the (correct) value of 80. I have already reported this bug using there bug report form, so it will be interesting to see how much the stats change once this is fixed. ---
Hmmm, make sure you are using the 1.1 client. I was using the old clients from the beta testing in the beginning and then realized that those units don't count. Depending on your processor, you really shouldn't need 50 hours. I'm averaging about 16 hours across the 75 machines I am using. ---
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Here is a link to some more case studies over at Linuxcare.
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I guess my little hint to read their privacy policy didn't help much. But to sum it up, they don't give out any of your personal information without your consent. All personal information is removed by the unit before it is sent back to TiVo, even TiVo doesn't receive this personal info. So, before you go around spreading FUD, I would suggest that you check your facts a little more closely. In fact, I think this entire thread should be marked down because of its irresponsible accusations!
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Not that you really deserve an answer, but here is a link to a story outlining the use of Linux for the Titanic movie. Here is the link.
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Did any of you bother to actually read the policy statement at TiVo before trying to brand them?
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I did a little research and sent an email to the TiVo folks. Here is what they had to say. Enjoy...
Subject: RE: Operating System used for TiVo?
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:19:11 -0700
Dear Sean,
Yes, it's Linux, and your timing is perfect. We just got finished creating our Tar.balls.
I can get you the exact details of the code that is available per the GPL, but basically it
is performance tweaks, and priority tweaks, to make Linux more of a Real-time OS. There is
also a bunch of stuff to make it work with our transactional file system, and other stuff.
I'll try to get you the full details, and if you want a burn of the CD, I'll try to get that
ready, too. We are going to charge some nominal fee for this, but I'm not sure what that
is, yet.
Oh, all tweaks are for Linux on the PowerPC chip.
Let me know if you have any specific questions.
Cheers,
Richard Bullwinkle
TiVo Webmaster
-----Original Message-----
From: sean@sks-pc.cs.kau.se [mailto:sean@sks-pc.cs.kau.se]On Behalf Of
Sean Kendall Schneyer
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 4:56 PM
To: CustomerCare@TiVo.com
Subject: Operating System used for TiVo?
I read in a recent article that you were using Linux as the
operating system for TiVo. I was unable to find anything to
confirm this on your website however. Is Linux actually
being used? If so, what changes were needed to the kernel
to support your device? Is the source code for these changes
available (required under the GPL)? I would be very interested
in receiving more details.
Thanks in advance,
Sean Kendall Schneyer
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I upgraded to 1.2 and my results are doing just fine.
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I looked through the pages listed and could not find any reference to the use of Common Lisp. Could you please point me to a reference somewhere saying they are using Lisp? I would be quite interested in this information.
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The scripts that calculate the team totals are broken, so it is actually impossible to know how far Team Slashdot really is ahead of Microsoft. It is really starting to annoy me that they haven't fixed this yet though since it causes Team Sweden to be ranked much lower than it should be.
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And you obviously didn't read the article... it seats 4.
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grrrr, I need sleep... that should say wouldn't instead of would
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If we were dealing with their awesome programmers we would be having these problems... I guess all the awesome coders were working on other projects instead.
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Actually, if it were a reference to the current directory then it would be dotslash and not slashdot... guess you aren't as clever as you thought. I'm beginning to think that slashduh really is appropriate for this place.
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Have you guys also fixed the bug that causes the results received not to add up to all the units for each team member? It appears that it just takes the number of units that each member of a team had at the time of joining the team!
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But the mindcraft study was between Linux and NT, so in this context it would be pointless. Now if you wanted to use if for a completely new study then that is a different story.
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What is the difference between these options? Also, reading a previous post, why does Redundant give + points? Redundancy is a bad thing, why would I want to read the same thing over and over and over?
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Why? The machine is not running Linux, it is running FreeBSD.
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Actually, I think they took down the teams on purpose to deal with the security problems. I for one sent a bug report about it.
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Teams were not available last week. They just added the support for teams, and there was a story about SETI@Home when they first launched btw.
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You mean to tell me they have found at least one intelligence in the universe?
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Well, to tell you the truth. It really doesn't surprise me. I've been convinced for a while now that this place was crawling with the script kiddy type and I guess now I've been proven right. Kinda sad if you ask me.
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You must be dreaming, because I don't see an easy way of getting someone elses password since the password is mailed to the email address of the owner. So, unless you can intercept other peoples email, I don't see any way for you to get other peoples passwords.
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I just had a nice little chat with Bert (the user with the 7 minute averate). It turns out that it is caused by a bug in software (running on Winblows 95 of course). He said that it reaches 1% then jumps to 100%, so he stopped using it about 3 days ago. He also said that he didn't know anything about being added to Team Slashdot.
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I wouldn't put too much value in the current ranking of the teams. The work units are not being added up correctly. Take a look at Team Sweden to see what I mean. You can see the stats for Team Sweden here. For the team it shows the total work units as 62, but the the top team member it shows the (correct) value of 80. I have already reported this bug using there bug report form, so it will be interesting to see how much the stats change once this is fixed.
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Hmmm, make sure you are using the 1.1 client. I was using the old clients from the beta testing in the beginning and then realized that those units don't count. Depending on your processor, you really shouldn't need 50 hours. I'm averaging about 16 hours across the 75 machines I am using.
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