Re:It's actually kind of scary
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How can you claim that the 50k+ applications show the strength of App store when there's no credible alternative at present?
Yeah totally. Having 65,000+ apps written for your mobile platform (having just looked at some more recent numbers) and having had over 1.5 billion downloads from your store is clearly the sign of being an abject failure. Apple should just discontinue the whole iPhone line considering such abysmal numbers. If these numbers don't show any sort of strength of their store, please enlighten me to an app store for any other mobile platform that can boast such numbers. The Android Market has only about 3,000 apps and by the looks of it the ratio of crap to good is actually worse than Apple's store so that's out.
Let me guess, next you are going to tell me that the one million sales of the 3GS in a single weekend isn't a sign of strength either.
Considering that "Ubermensch" was translatable to "Superman" then "Ubercheap" would be "Supercheap"
No, it wouldn't. It would be word soup that any German would find to be awkward. To say something is "super cheap" they would say something like "superpreiswertes" which would literally translate as "super inexpensive". They wouldn't use über in such a situation.
Why not simply make it installable from a website(for eg. the developers) like, you know, the rest of the smartphones and computers and netbooks? That is the difference. There is no choice. If there is a choice and what you say about the App store being a great deal is true, developers will flock to Apple's offerings anyway.
Why would you want to have to run your own website and manage all the bandwidth bills and marketing when you can pay a pittance for Apple to do all that for you? Secondly, developers are flocking to the app store en masse. The 50,000+ apps on the store aren't coming out of someone's rectum so they clearly most have some sort of developer following.
Re:It's actually kind of scary
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Whereas on the iPhone, it's illegal to develop even a browser and anything you develop will have a 30% Apple tax slapped on it and there's no alternate means of *widespread* distribution.
Really? It's illegal>/i> to develop a browser for the iPhone? Can you point me to the state or federal statute that criminalized creating an iPhone browser?
It was a golden age...now the barrier to entry has been lowered so much, you get all kinds of pigeon brains cranking out bad code.
I'm guessing you've not maintained much code that is a few decades old. Despite what your rose-colored glasses are showing you, there was tons of shitty code being written during your so called "golden age".
QUOTE: "The Apollo's Guidance Computer was a snail-like 1.024 MHz" led me to think the poster though clock speeds were measured in base 2.
The fact that he surrounded that statement in quotes shows that he was quoting someone else's words not that those were their own words. Is this the first time you've encountered quotation marks before?
Fair sure, but not relevant. The OP was talking about obama and the response brought up that he would not because of his position as a Democrat.
Yes, but there is a constant meme on Slashdot that paints only the Democrats are in the pockets of the RIAA/MPAA and it's just not true. I was only providing a clarification. One also only has to look at the vote on the DMCA and it's unanimous passage in the Senate and the fact that it was introduced in the House of Representatives by a Republican to see that such rhetoric is wrong.
True, the individual companies their own thing. I was only specifically referring to the RIAA itself not the members and at a 54/46 split it's pretty even.
And yet the current RIAA president is a prominent Republican political figure and lobbyist. He was the chief of staff for Bill Frist. Not to mention the RIAA gave out just as much money to Republican candidates as it did Democrats. Not that this excuses the Dems, and it doesn't, but it's only fair to point out that the Repubs are just as much in the pockets of the copyright lobby as the Dems are.
But then again, these are tools written by developers, for developers, not by developers for marketeers. Say what you will about Visual Studio.NET, but I can point you at scores of people that absolutely despise it, and not for the fact that it's closed source. It's terrible bug-infested bloatware, and everyone who has ever used it knows that. (That being said, there are those that are forced to use it, of ocurse).
I've used Visual Studio 2005, 2008 and 2010 and love them all and almost everyone else where I work loves it as well.
Exactly. They'd be even more free to screw people on the movie profits as they've already done! It's hilarious to see so many people on here actually defending a studio has screwed people who have worked on these films out of money and is a prominent RIAA member. The hypocrisy of this thread is astounding.
I'm pretty sure that using your market dominance in one field to force people to buy your other products could be interpreted as anti-trust.
They aren't using their market dominance to do anything. They are simply not allowing anything but their own devices to use their services which is perfectly legal.
Coming along late-to-the-party and just trying to muscle your way in without an invite just shows a lack of class, at least IMHO.
So then you also show similar disapproval of Wine, Samba, Rockbox and the host of other OSS software that attempts to interoperate with proprietary Apple and Microsoft software, no?
I, for one, would rather see Jobs get his liver than, say, some old person who worked as a machinist for 30 years, or even worse, an alcoholic native american.
Yeah, because the only choices were either him or the two extreme examples you've given. There are probably plenty of people on the list far more deserving than Jobs who got bumped down because they couldn't afford to buy their way to the top.
Are you replying to me or to someone else? I was agreeing that if you wanted something smaller and more power efficient that, yes, there are also other options.
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How can you claim that the 50k+ applications show the strength of App store when there's no credible alternative at present?
Yeah totally. Having 65,000+ apps written for your mobile platform (having just looked at some more recent numbers) and having had over 1.5 billion downloads from your store is clearly the sign of being an abject failure. Apple should just discontinue the whole iPhone line considering such abysmal numbers. If these numbers don't show any sort of strength of their store, please enlighten me to an app store for any other mobile platform that can boast such numbers. The Android Market has only about 3,000 apps and by the looks of it the ratio of crap to good is actually worse than Apple's store so that's out.
Let me guess, next you are going to tell me that the one million sales of the 3GS in a single weekend isn't a sign of strength either.
Considering that "Ubermensch" was translatable to "Superman" then "Ubercheap" would be "Supercheap"
No, it wouldn't. It would be word soup that any German would find to be awkward. To say something is "super cheap" they would say something like "superpreiswertes" which would literally translate as "super inexpensive". They wouldn't use über in such a situation.
Why not simply make it installable from a website(for eg. the developers) like, you know, the rest of the smartphones and computers and netbooks? That is the difference. There is no choice. If there is a choice and what you say about the App store being a great deal is true, developers will flock to Apple's offerings anyway.
Why would you want to have to run your own website and manage all the bandwidth bills and marketing when you can pay a pittance for Apple to do all that for you? Secondly, developers are flocking to the app store en masse. The 50,000+ apps on the store aren't coming out of someone's rectum so they clearly most have some sort of developer following.
Whereas on the iPhone, it's illegal to develop even a browser and anything you develop will have a 30% Apple tax slapped on it and there's no alternate means of *widespread* distribution.
Really? It's illegal>/i> to develop a browser for the iPhone? Can you point me to the state or federal statute that criminalized creating an iPhone browser?
Whoosh? The sarcasm in the GP's post was obvious from a mile away.
It was a golden age...now the barrier to entry has been lowered so much, you get all kinds of pigeon brains cranking out bad code.
I'm guessing you've not maintained much code that is a few decades old. Despite what your rose-colored glasses are showing you, there was tons of shitty code being written during your so called "golden age".
QUOTE: "The Apollo's Guidance Computer was a snail-like 1.024 MHz" led me to think the poster though clock speeds were measured in base 2.
The fact that he surrounded that statement in quotes shows that he was quoting someone else's words not that those were their own words. Is this the first time you've encountered quotation marks before?
Releasing something as gpl doesnt mean the come isnt copyrighted
Fair sure, but not relevant. The OP was talking about obama and the response brought up that he would not because of his position as a Democrat.
Yes, but there is a constant meme on Slashdot that paints only the Democrats are in the pockets of the RIAA/MPAA and it's just not true. I was only providing a clarification. One also only has to look at the vote on the DMCA and it's unanimous passage in the Senate and the fact that it was introduced in the House of Representatives by a Republican to see that such rhetoric is wrong.
http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/disclosure_data_search.shtml
Have fun.
True, the individual companies their own thing. I was only specifically referring to the RIAA itself not the members and at a 54/46 split it's pretty even.
And yet the current RIAA president is a prominent Republican political figure and lobbyist. He was the chief of staff for Bill Frist. Not to mention the RIAA gave out just as much money to Republican candidates as it did Democrats. Not that this excuses the Dems, and it doesn't, but it's only fair to point out that the Repubs are just as much in the pockets of the copyright lobby as the Dems are.
Is this part of the new Obama stimulus plan?
But then again, these are tools written by developers, for developers, not by developers for marketeers. Say what you will about Visual Studio .NET, but I can point you at scores of people that absolutely despise it, and not for the fact that it's closed source. It's terrible bug-infested bloatware, and everyone who has ever used it knows that. (That being said, there are those that are forced to use it, of ocurse).
I've used Visual Studio 2005, 2008 and 2010 and love them all and almost everyone else where I work loves it as well.
Exactly. They'd be even more free to screw people on the movie profits as they've already done! It's hilarious to see so many people on here actually defending a studio has screwed people who have worked on these films out of money and is a prominent RIAA member. The hypocrisy of this thread is astounding.
What is so horrible about Vista?
Because it's from Micro$oft!!! Duh.
I'm pretty sure that using your market dominance in one field to force people to buy your other products could be interpreted as anti-trust.
They aren't using their market dominance to do anything. They are simply not allowing anything but their own devices to use their services which is perfectly legal.
This opens up Apple to a lot more anti-trust suits.
How so? They have no obligation to allow other devices that they don't want to to work with iTunes.
Coming along late-to-the-party and just trying to muscle your way in without an invite just shows a lack of class, at least IMHO.
So then you also show similar disapproval of Wine, Samba, Rockbox and the host of other OSS software that attempts to interoperate with proprietary Apple and Microsoft software, no?
You say it as if its a bad thing.
That's because it is.
I, for one, would rather see Jobs get his liver than, say, some old person who worked as a machinist for 30 years, or even worse, an alcoholic native american.
Yeah, because the only choices were either him or the two extreme examples you've given. There are probably plenty of people on the list far more deserving than Jobs who got bumped down because they couldn't afford to buy their way to the top.
Jobs already got his live transplant last month after using his money to buy himself to the top of the donor list.
Are you replying to me or to someone else? I was agreeing that if you wanted something smaller and more power efficient that, yes, there are also other options.
You can use the libavcodec library with Moonlight if you don't want to use the Microsoft binaries.
Yes, if you wanted something more portable or power efficient, yes, you would go for maybe one of those.
And yet, GPL'd software is more popular.
So you claim but I doubt any GPL'd software is more ubiquitous then BSD licensed software such as Berkeley sockets or Kerberos.