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Bill Gates Puts Classic Feynman Lectures Online

theodp writes "Okay Tux fans, let's see how badly you want to see Feynman's Messenger Lectures on Physics. Bill Gates has the goods over at Microsoft Research's Project Tuva site. Also, CNET's Ina Fried has an interesting interview with Gates. He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web, talks about the possibility of Project Natal bringing gesture recognition to Windows, gives his thoughts on Google's Chrome OS, and discusses plans to patent 'cows that don't fart.' The last is a joke. I think."

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  1. gesture recognition by neonprimetime · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft doesn't just want to bring gesture recognition to the Xbox with Project Natal. It also wants the technology in Windows, according to a very good source--Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.

    Here's what I want ... if I flick off my windows pc, it will automatically hit ctrl-alt-delete. That would allow me to release stress, and save me a few keyboard clicks.

    1. Re:gesture recognition by SterlingSylver · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe it could learn to recognize someone throwing up their hands in disgust and slamming their fists on the desk...

      Clippy: You appear to be royally pissed off at your computer. Would you like me to search for some humorous kitten videos on Bing?

    2. Re:gesture recognition by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just put a brick through the monitor and kick the tower over. Much better stress reliever, plus it gives you an excuse to buy a Mac.

    3. Re:gesture recognition by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Guess the most easily reached UI element of XP Mode under Windows 7 which is basically hand crafted Virtual PC?

      a button saying "ctrl-alt-delete" is right at its toolbar. Believe or not.

    4. Re:gesture recognition by vux984 · · Score: 5, Funny
    5. Re:gesture recognition by mcgrew · · Score: 1, Troll

      Heh, looks like Microsoft shills with mod points lack a sense of humor... But that's understandable, I guess.

    6. Re:gesture recognition by Vectronic · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'll believe it, cause its the same for a lot of VM's, because hitting Ctrl+Alt+Del in the VM, is often sent to the host PC instead. SO you can either change the keystroke to Shift+Alt+Del or something, or... use the button.

    7. Re:gesture recognition by Macthorpe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, that's right. It couldn't be that you're not funny - someone is being paid to not laugh at you.

      Wow.

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    8. Re:gesture recognition by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 2, Funny

      Haha is that anti-astro-turfing ?? :D

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    9. Re:gesture recognition by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Tough room. And I'm having a bad day today.

    10. Re:gesture recognition by COMON$ · · Score: 1
      ummm because ever since NT Ctrl+Alt+Delete brings up a task menu which "believe it or not" is damn useful when working with a windows box...

      Yes I have no sense of humor.

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    11. Re:gesture recognition by Trelane · · Score: 2, Funny
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    12. Re:gesture recognition by dna_(c)(tm)(r) · · Score: 1

      You apparently have, and you already did. But it wasn't a Mac...

    13. Re:gesture recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...ooor you're just tired of dealing with bullshit on windows and linux

    14. Re:gesture recognition by Zarluk · · Score: 1

      Maybe it could learn to recognize someone throwing up their hands in disgust and slamming their fists on the desk...

      Maybe it could even recognize the user throwing a chair in anger and flush the memory to disk before being hit...

      Oh no, it wouldn't have enough time, I guess :-S

    15. Re:gesture recognition by Wirr · · Score: 1

      Haha is that anti-astro-turfing ?? :D

      I thinks that's called mowing.

  2. I know why. by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web

    That's easy. It's a good way to lure technically minded people into installing Silverlight. No sale here Gates, I'll wait until it's available by torrent.

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    1. Re:I know why. by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah well, you're missing out. I watched two lectures last night and was impressed (my first silverlight experience). I use my cell phone as a modem and thus don't get a create connection speed, and watching videos usually requires me to buffer for some time... the lectures played fine and in decent quality. What impressed me, though, were the closed captions that were displayed below the video window.

      Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight? Is it because it doesn't have full Linux support yet? By that regard, by cell phone sucks, my vid card sucks, etc.

    2. Re:I know why. by jack2000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Astroturf much? Yes they do suck, as any tech literate person can tell you even an 8bit microcontroller can run linux. Now take your closedsource software and go away!

    3. Re:I know why. by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight?

      It's yet another attack vector. I already have a video player on my system, and Silverlight offers me nothing that I can't do without it. It does however potentially contain vulnerabilities that could compromise my system.

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    4. Re:I know why. by mr+crypto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because requiring Silverlight (and therefore Windows) severely dilutes the notion that Gate's action is altruistic. The content is only kinda free.

    5. Re:I know why. by digitig · · Score: 1

      That's easy. It's a good way to lure technically minded people into installing Silverlight.

      Yes -- it would save me the walk over to the bookshelf to get the dead-tree version.

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    6. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Because requiring Silverlight (and therefore Windows) severely dilutes the notion that Gate's action is altruistic. The content is only kinda free.

      Wrong. Choose to use it or not as you wish but dont spread incorrect information.

      Silverlight for Mac-> download

      And of course you can choose the Mono implementation if you want FOSS versions instead
      Mono-> download

    7. Re:I know why. by jejones · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, wait. Mono is said to be a free as in speech implementation of C#, but aren't the codecs, which are what really matters for watching video, still proprietary? (Not a rhetorical question; I'd really like to know.)

    8. Re:I know why. by Mr2cents · · Score: 4, Informative

      I saw 4 feynman lectures put online here, he became my hero instantly. He was a great man.

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    9. Re:I know why. by Elektroschock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem with Microsoft is that they gave a 50% community promise, expect the next 50% to come soon. In three years Intellectual Ventures, their patent troll could sent you a letter...

    10. Re:I know why. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight?

      It might have something to do with the knee-jerk reactions to Linux from Microsoft's CEO. When one starts rattling sabers, it's not entirely unfair to think that there might be a willingness to follow through.

    11. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No, he was an honest and inquisitive man. He made many mistakes. Had several personality quirks and so on. The only difference between him and the average person was that he was brutally honest with himself and others and he had a desire to understand how things work. Don't make the mistake of elevating him to unreachable heights. There is absolutely nothing special about him other than the choices he made. That's not denigrating him at all either. It's only pointing out that there's nothing stopping you from following in his footsteps. Don't let him just be a hero. Make him a role model.

    12. Re:I know why. by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

      Because requiring Silverlight (and therefore Windows) severely dilutes the notion that Gate's action is altruistic. The content is only kinda free

      Silverlight does not require Windows. It is available for Mac, also, where it runs flawlessly. Windows + Mac covers around 99% of personal computers.

    13. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Knee-jerk? You're applying that descriptive phrase in a very simplistic, baiting way. The issues over Moonlight/Silverlight have been discussed not just on Slashdot multiple times but all over the Internet.

    14. Re:I know why. by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight?

      What makes you think it's a knee-jerk reaction rather than a well reasoned reaction from years of experience dealing with Microsoft?

      For most users, Silverlight doesn't provide any real benefits. The whole thing was invented, not to fill a need, but to push Microsoft's vendor lock-in.

      Sure, they support OSX. For now. They also used to release IE for OSX, but they stopped updating it, letting it fall behind IE for Windows, and then killed it off. They also used to sell Outlook for OSX, before killing it and replacing it with a substandard version that didn't support Exchange servers. Their broadness of support only seems to last as long as it takes them to dominate that particular market, and then they drop support in order to drive everyone back to Windows.

      So now, tell me, except for Microsoft putting up content like this on their own site and requiring Silverlight, what reason do I have to install the thing at all? What reason did Microsoft have for using Silverlight instead of just letting people play the video files?

    15. Re:I know why. by Beelzebud · · Score: 3, Informative

      People are saying it offers nothing that youtube or other types of services offer, and yet I just watched the first lecture at the silverlight site, and thought it was pretty cool how there was 2 text commentaries from physicists you could have as an optional caption, and links to deeper information about certain people and topics he was discussing, that would appear as he was talking about them.

      It's the first video I've watched with silverlight, and I didn't mind it at all. The extras it offered allowed me to get a better grasp on certain topics he was covering.

    16. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably the most interesting character in physics. You should read some of his books.

    17. Re:I know why. by Freetardo+Jones · · Score: 1

      You can use the libavcodec library with Moonlight if you don't want to use the Microsoft binaries.

    18. Re:I know why. by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Question: Which lectures are they...? I probably already have them in AVI formay and I'm not installing Silverlight just to find out which ones they are.

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    19. Re:I know why. by AlexBirch · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because requiring Silverlight (and therefore Windows) severely dilutes the notion that Gate's action is altruistic. The content is only kinda free

      Silverlight does not require Windows. It is available for Mac, also, where it runs flawlessly. Windows + Mac covers around 99% of personal computers.

      But here at Slashdot, Windows + Mac only only 50% of users.

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    20. Re:I know why. by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Very rarely. When I do, I use any one of a number of available tools that fetch the .flv and watch it with mplayer. A simple http:/// link to a video file is superior in every imaginable way to this embedded garbage.

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    21. Re:I know why. by Beelzebud · · Score: 1

      They're labeled "The Messenger Series" The title card that shows first says:

      BBC TV, "The Law of Gravitation - An Example of Physical Law" Prof. Feynman, Program Body 11/9/64

      It was shot at Cornell University and there are 7 lectures in total.

    22. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight? Is it because it doesn't have full Linux support yet?

       

      maybe because of years of Microsoft taking anything gathering momentum and spinning a version tied up and into Windows and many times illegally and many times using strong arm tactics. Did you read how they flooded the International Standards Organization with Microsoft business partners to stuff the ballots so MS OOXML was accepted? They even offered to pay the admission fees and handed them speaking points. There's huge list of these things and little has to do with providing the best solution and most is about anchoring a product and therefore the customers to Windows. Silverlight is just another anchor tied to Windows and it does not matter if they have a version for the Mac, that'll only last long enough to help kill Adobe Flash. yes, that is their motivation just as IE was nothing more than to kill Navigator, MS Visual J++ to kill Java, MS DirectX to kill OpenGL, etc, etc, etc. And yes, their primary business model is to lock people into their platform. So unless you like the MS logo tatooed on your forehead, you stay away from them as a fight for choice. As funny as that sounds.
       

      Microsoft has not shown a single instance where it has changed over the years so screw MS Silverlight, screw MS .NET, and anything else they produce.

    23. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Um, wait. Mono is said to be a free as in speech implementation of C#, but aren't the codecs, which are what really matters for watching video, still proprietary? (Not a rhetorical question; I'd really like to know.)

      The video codces in Silverlight 3 are H.264 (ISO standard) and VC-1 (SMPTE standard). So, they're open specifications but the patents are licensed from MPEG-LA.

      Moonlight offers to download fully licensed binary implementations of the Silverlight codecs from Microsoft.

    24. Re:I know why. by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because requiring Silverlight (and therefore Windows) severely dilutes the notion that Gate's action is altruistic. The content is only kinda free.

      Wrong. Choose to use it or not as you wish but dont spread incorrect information.

      Silverlight for Mac-> download

      And of course you can choose the Mono implementation if you want FOSS versions instead Mono-> download

      I'll give you 3 reasons to not use Silverlight, even the Mono implementation:

      1. embrace
      2. extend
      3. extinguish
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    25. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, you sussed it, Microsoft will go to great lengths to get you to install silverlight.

      Yes, you MUST INSTALL SILVERLIGHT to watch the lectures.

      No way am I installing it, Silverllight is just an attack on Linux, cause Linux is not invited to the Silverlight party at Microsoft.

      I will install Silverlight when Microsoft officially support it on Linux.

      That is quite right and very fair to me.

    26. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I already have a video player on my system, and Silverlight offers me nothing that I can't do without it.

      Sure it can. Check out the player experience, and its navigation, commentary, captioning, etcetera. And it uses Smooth Streaming to provide proxy-cachable video at multiple bitrates.

      http://alexzambelli.com/blog/2009/03/27/smooth-streaming-white-paper/

      It does however potentially contain vulnerabilities that could compromise my system

      FWIW, Silverlight so far has had 0 exploits over three versions. It's done well compared to other media players in the same period. One advantage of a relatively recent technology is that it was designed for security from the get-go, after the web had shifted to its current "presumed hostile" state.

    27. Re:I know why. by migla · · Score: 1, Funny

      Why the knee-jerk reactions to Sucking satans cock!?

      There. Fixed that for you.

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    28. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Very rarely. When I do, I use any one of a number of available tools that fetch the .flv and watch it with mplayer. A simple http:/// link to a video file is superior in every imaginable way to this embedded garbage.

      Check out some links to the player in action. It does a whole lot of stuff that MPlayer can't.

      It's really more like a Blu-ray or Director style media playback application. It's not just a rectangle with some codecs.

    29. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see no issues with flash being extinguished. *shrug*

    30. Re:I know why. by Dolohov · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Look at it this way: assume for a moment that he wants to be altruistic. The technologies available to him to do this the way he wants are Silverlight and Flash. He's a Microsoft fan, he naturally chooses Silverlight - or more likely, the Microsoft lackey he gives the job to chooses it out of fear of being berated for choosing something "inferior".

      So, looking from the outside, the altruistic explanation looks exactly the same as the conniving one.

    31. Re:I know why. by Trelane · · Score: 1

      Without DRM. Big, important exception, as this means e.g. no Netflix streaming.

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    32. Re:I know why. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FWIW, Silverlight so far has had 0 exploits over three versions. It's done well compared to other media players in the same period. One advantage of a relatively recent technology is that it was designed for security from the get-go, after the web had shifted to its current "presumed hostile" state.

      A reasonable track record so far. It makes a nice point. However, exactly when did the 'web shift to a "presumed hostile" state?

      I ask because by my count, we've been in a hostile environment for years. And throughout those years, Microsoft has either introduced some very disturbing implementations or promised secure implementations that later fall short of these grand claims.

      I don't want to completely discount Microsoft's improved attitude towards security. But there isn't an entirely solid track record there to warrent the kind of confidence you seem to think people should have in yet a new implementation of "a relatively recent technology."

    33. Re:I know why. by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Why do I want all that?

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    34. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 3, Interesting

      However, exactly when did the 'web shift to a "presumed hostile" state?

      2000 or so? Probably when always-on broadband become common.

      I ask because by my count, we've been in a hostile environment for years. And throughout those years, Microsoft has either introduced some very disturbing implementations or promised secure implementations that later fall short of these grand claims

      Certainly XP as released was way too trusting. But I think Microsoft's track record has been quite positive since XPSP2. I wasn't around for that period, but it definitely got people VERY focused on security as something that has to be baked into product design from the inception of the product. Vista, IE 7/8, Silverlight, Office 2003/2007 all have had much better security records than their predecessors.

      Lots of complaints about Microsoft products, most notably Vista, are on areas where Microsoft prioritized security over simplicity or backwards compatibility. And that's a problem for everybody, including Mac and Linux, with years of regular security updates ahead of us.

      It's been easier in Silverlight since there wasn't anything to be backwards comaptible to. But there are defintley features that have been cut, delayed, or reduced in scope due to the test cost of verifying security. Every feature gets a threat model and security test plan before it gets approved.

      We're really serious about it. On the media side, for example, there's a lot of fuzz testing of malformed bitstreams to make sure there's no way to cause a crash that could then lead to an exploit.

    35. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Without DRM. Big, important exception, as this means e.g. no Netflix streaming.

      Well, here's an actually serious question.

      What kind of DRM implementation would the Linux community accept in Moonlight?

    36. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Why do I want all that?

      Becase more context makes it easier to learn and retain the information, and to explore further in topics of interest?

      This is web video; we should offer more than VHS interactivity and richness.

    37. Re:I know why. by Trelane · · Score: 1

      What kind of DRM implementation would the Linux community accept in Moonlight?

      Depends entirely on the segement of the community to which you're referring, rather like the Windows community. Most would rather like to be able to get the full experience. Of course, in an ideal world, no DRM would be present at all. Sadly, the world isn't ideal.

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    38. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Depends entirely on the segement of the community to which you're referring, rather like the Windows community. Most would rather like to be able to get the full experience. Of course, in an ideal world, no DRM would be present at all. Sadly, the world isn't ideal.

      Yep, when it comes to Hollywood content DRM is a contractual obligation.

      The stuff that we publish in Smooth Streaming ourselves rarely uses DRM, but that's not an option for Netflix.

    39. Re:I know why. by Trelane · · Score: 1

      Right, but the Mono people cannot implement the DRM; only MSFT can, and until the MSFT-provided codecs can do DRM, Linux will remain a second-class client. Whether this is a problem for your bosses is another matter.

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    40. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      I smell an astroturfer!

      If it's so great, why isn't there a Linux silverlight player? Why is it that people who've installed mono on Linux cannot play the lectures (even after adjusting the user agent string)?

      Is the purpose of silverlight to improve the way in which information is presented, or to add yet another lock-in for windows-only applications? BTW, I canceled my Netflix subscription as a result of them REQUIRING you to have silverlight on your computer in order to stream content. Their old player worked just fine and it is no longer an option. It MAY have something to do with the CEO of Netflix being named to the Microsoft board of directors....

    41. Re:I know why. by laing · · Score: 2, Funny

      You work for Microsoft don't you Ben?

    42. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep, right there in my email address.

      My blog: http://on10.net/blogs/benwagg

      For about 3.5 years now, I'd hit the karma cap here will before then :).

    43. Re:I know why. by cbhacking · · Score: 1

      Some of them are, yes. Microsoft has made a Moonlight codec pack available however, in much the same way that the "Core Fonts for the Web" (including many now-standard fonts like Arial) were distributed.

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    44. Re:I know why. by El+Icaro · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You should try taking that stick out of your ass, though that might leave a hole that could compromise your system.

    45. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      It does a whole lot of stuff that MPlayer can't.

      It requires me to install Moonlight and spoof my user-agent to convince it that my browser is compatible, or to use Windows with IE and Silverlight. I'm not interested in that stuff. Does it do anything useful that MPlayer can't?

    46. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Right, but the Mono people cannot implement the DRM; only MSFT can, and until the MSFT-provided codecs can do DRM, Linux will remain a second-class client. Whether this is a problem for your bosses is another matter.

      Well, first lets start with a feature request.

      Do you think the Linux community would be okay with us integrating DRM support into the downloadable codec pack? It seems like the kind of thing we're going to get yelled at about one way or another :).

    47. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes you think it's a knee-jerk reaction rather than a well reasoned reaction from years of experience dealing with Microsoft?

      Years of experience reading Slashdot.

    48. Re:I know why. by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      There is absolutely nothing special about him other than the choices he made

      That's absolutely true. I myself and many of my friends also have Nobel prizes for physics.

      Get real. Feynman was a really good scientist who was also a great communicator.

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    49. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's nothing Flash can't do.

    50. Re:I know why. by Trelane · · Score: 1

      Do you think the Linux community would be okay with us integrating DRM support into the downloadable codec pack?

      We went over this. Most would be OK (provided, of course, that it's as non-invasive as the current codec packs are). Some wouldn't. Just like any other community, we're of diverse opinion.

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    51. Re:I know why. by VoltageX · · Score: 1

      Video chunks can be downloaded at http://mediadl.microsoft.com/mediadl/www/s/studios/smoothmedia/msr/tuva/lectures/L1_Law_of_Gravitation.ism/QualityLevels(2500000)/Fragments(video=00:00:00)
      Change video= according to this:

          <VideoChapter Id="1" StartTime="00:00:00">
            <Title>Leader &amp; Slate</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="2" StartTime="00:00:33">
            <Title />
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="3" StartTime="00:01:36">
            <Title>Introduction</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="4" StartTime="00:06:07">
            <Title>Feynman Intro</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="5" StartTime="00:08:51">
            <Title>Law of Gravity</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="6" StartTime="00:11:56">
            <Title>Discovery</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="7" StartTime="00:14:02">
            <Title>Kepler</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="8" StartTime="00:15:14">
            <Title>Laws of Motion</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="9" StartTime="00:18:52">
            <Title>Newton</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="10" StartTime="00:25:24">
            <Title>Tides</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="11" StartTime="00:31:38">
            <Title>Gravity in the Universe</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="12" StartTime="00:40:42">
            <Title>Weighing the Earth</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="13" StartTime="00:46:55">
            <Title>Electricity</Title>
          </VideoChapter>
          <VideoChapter Id="14" StartTime="00:52:01">
            <Title>Conclusions</Title>
          </VideoChapter>

      Gods know what format the video is in though, it's coming down as x-video/mp4 but it's not.

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    52. Re:I know why. by VoltageX · · Score: 1

      It's "Fragmented MP4", which apparently is part of the MP4 spec but nothing seems to be able to play it.

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    53. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Vulnerabilities does Silverlight have?

      Flash has many reported exploits, show me just one for Silverlight...

    54. Re:I know why. by sakusha · · Score: 1

      Check out the player experience, and its navigation, commentary, captioning, etcetera. And it uses Smooth Streaming to provide proxy-cachable video at multiple bitrates.

      As he said, those features are all available on the video players already available. QuickTime and QuickTime Streaming Server (and it's Open Source version Darwin Streaming Server) already offer all those features.

      So why do I need Silverlight, except to support Bill Gates' attempt to "knife the baby"...?

    55. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Except if you had bothered to check it out, you'd know that it is significantly more than just video.

      Wait, what am I saying? Expecting someone to RTFA on slashdot? Sorry, resume ranting.

    56. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do I want all that?

      That argument has never worked. We heard the same thing about the <img src> tag. "If it doesn't work in Lynx, who needs it?"

    57. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      As he said, those features are all available on the video players already available. QuickTime and QuickTime Streaming Server (and it's Open Source version Darwin Streaming Server) already offer all those features

      Er, no, they aren't.

      QuickTime Media Layer back in the day did some of those, but tool development was abandoned after Jobs came back to Apple, and client-side support for interactive features have slowly been dropped for security reasons.

      QTSS/DSS are actually pretty bad choices for long-form on-demand content delivery, due to the lack of bandwidth negotiation.

    58. Re:I know why. by booyabazooka · · Score: 1

      Look at it this way: assume for a moment that he wants to be altruistic. The technologies available to him to do this the way he wants are Silverlight and Flash.

      And avi, mpg, mp4, mkv, wmv, mov, ogm... posting it on youtube... distributing via bittorrent...

      But yeah, Silverlight was the only reasonable option.

    59. Re:I know why. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      However, exactly when did the 'web shift to a "presumed hostile" state?

      2000 or so? Probably when always-on broadband become common.

      I'd say that's off by at least 5 years and it didn't take the ubiquity of home broadband to bring it about (although it certainly helped).

      Certainly XP as released was way too trusting. But I think Microsoft's track record has been quite positive since XPSP2. I wasn't around for that period, but it definitely got people VERY focused on security as something that has to be baked into product design from the inception of the product. Vista, IE 7/8, Silverlight, Office 2003/2007 all have had much better security records than their predecessors.

      Again - I really don't wish to ignore Microsoft's obvious change in attitude towards security. It took them a long time. But there's a very distinct change over the bad old days.

      But that doesn't leave Microsoft with a spotless record. Most of the products you've listed have had (or in some cases continue to have) issues. That isn't necessarily a criticism in itself; it depends on context.

      That entire list of products were developed with the full knowledge of the hostile environments in which they'd operate. Yet vulnerabilities came to light in many cases. With that in mind, claiming that Silverlight is OK because it's new and developed for a hostile environment sounds a little too much like marketing - and a line that we've all heard before, at that. It does not address the fact that Silverlight does present another potential attack vector.

      It's been easier in Silverlight since there wasn't anything to be backwards comaptible to. But there are defintley features that have been cut, delayed, or reduced in scope due to the test cost of verifying security. Every feature gets a threat model and security test plan before it gets approved.

      We're really serious about it. On the media side, for example, there's a lot of fuzz testing of malformed bitstreams to make sure there's no way to cause a crash that could then lead to an exploit.

      That's great. Again - in my skepticism I hate to gloss over the improvements Microsoft have made.

    60. Re:I know why. by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      I'd say that's off by at least 5 years and it didn't take the ubiquity of home broadband to bring it about (although it certainly helped)

      Yeah, there wasn't some magic point where it started. It was probably the first big worms when the mass audience became aware of the threat.

      I was a callow MacOS 9 hipster video nerd back then, so it wasn't something I was that focused on myself.

      But that doesn't leave Microsoft with a spotless record. Most of the products you've listed have had (or in some cases continue to have) issues. That isn't necessarily a criticism in itself; it depends on context.

      Yep, pretty much any OS is going to get at least one security patch a month, it seems. And it's a lot harder to harden after the fact than it is to have security a clear focus and mandate before the first dry-erase marker hits whiteboard. Plus we have the benefit of the scarred veterans of many exploits to help us avoid making old mistakes with new products.

      That entire list of products were developed with the full knowledge of the hostile environments in which they'd operate. Yet vulnerabilities came to light in many cases. With that in mind, claiming that Silverlight is OK because it's new and developed for a hostile environment sounds a little too much like marketing - and a line that we've all heard before, at that.

      Sure. Nothing is ever provably secure. But code heritage matters, and so does track record. It's no guarnatee of future security, but it's something.

      It does not address the fact that Silverlight does present another potential attack vector.

      Yep. It's always a matter of relative security versus importance of features. If users are going to be watching vidoe in browsers, the question is Silverlight's relative security compared to other plugins, players, and now browsers available. Comparing both architectural design and breech history between those is probably useful.

    61. Re:I know why. by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      But here at Slashdot, Windows + Mac only only 50% of users.

      Why is that modded insightful? It would be informative, but there is only a claim being presented with no supporting evidence.

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    62. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, as soon as I saw silverlight I closed the tab.

    63. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "For most users, Silverlight doesn't provide any real benefits. The whole thing was invented, not to fill a need, but to push Microsoft's vendor lock-in."

      Sorry but that's bollocks. You're not looking at it objectively.

      Lock-in suggests that they're forced into using specific technologies, the reality is though that Microsoft technologies really are just best of breed for most companies needs. Lock-in is when you have situations like has been posted here on Slashdot in the last day, the story about Apple "updating" iTunes to prevent the pre syncing with it - now THAT is lockin, artificially making sure people use your device to connect to your software.

      If you have this situation where you have a choice of Visual Studio, ASP.NET and Silverlight as your unified toolchain (because unified toolchains ultimately allow for better productivity) or the choice of Dreamweaver, Coldfusion and Flash then it's really a no brainer.

      Hell, if Adobe don't want to invest in making Coldfusion worthwhile so that they can offer a true competitor to the rich internet apps market then there's not even anything stopping them producing better integration options for Flash into Micrososft's toolchain.

      It's idiotic to suggest companies are locked in because they choose a suite because it's simply the best offering out there for there needs and you see there's the crux of it.

      You say "most users" as if you've actually researched into how many users do and don't benefit from Silverlight. You ask what benefit it is to you, but in doing this you miss the point completely, to put it bluntly, you personally are not important. It is the people developing rich internet apps that matter to Microsoft, if they can convince them that their product is better (and frankly that's not hard, because simply put, it is) such that they can produce what they need to produce with less overall cost and so on then "most users" on the internet simply wont care about whether they have to accept their browsers prompts to install Silverlight, just as they don't with Flash. They'll just do it.

      I don't want to see Microsoft gain dominance with Silverlight over Flash, in fact, I don't like Flash either, I think the real solution to RIAs is to improve Javascript etc. What bugs me though is arguments like yours that seem to blame Microsoft when all Microsoft has done is do a better job for developers than the other guy. It's like saying "Stop being good at what you do Microsoft" and this is what large swathes of the FOSS community miss.

      Where is the FOSS challenger to an unified RIA suite? PHP would make a good start for the server side language, but it needs an IDE as good as Visual Studio (Eclipse is close, but not there yet) and an RIA toolchain that is better than Flash/Silverlight and also integrates well with the Eclipse/PHP (or whatever) toolchain.

    64. Re:I know why. by benjymouse · · Score: 1

      Um, wait. Mono is said to be a free as in speech implementation of C#, but aren't the codecs, which are what really matters for watching video, still proprietary? (Not a rhetorical question; I'd really like to know.)

      Yes, many of the codecs (all?) aren't even Microsoft property. Rather they are the IP of 3rd party codec developers often incumbered by patents.

      Microsoft has licensed these commercial codecs with the right to re-distribute from the MS websites. This allows MS to use them in Silverlight.

      Microsoft also entered into an agreement with Novell (and by extension the Mono project) to make the codecs available to Mono users as well. But to avoid violating MS license with the IP holders the Mono users are required to download the codecs from the MS website.

      This is nothing sinister. The codecs were never Microsofts to hand over in the first place. The end result is almost the same: Mono/Moonlight users get access to the codecs with only a minor added inconvenience.

      Of course, the codecs are still not *free* as in speech. Only the original IP holders can set them free. And it will probably be a cold day in hell before that happens.

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    65. Re:I know why. by markov23 · · Score: 1

      I'm just glad to see part of this thread actually discussing Feynman after reading 20 hater posts about silverlight. I could care less about silverlight -- Feynman was special to many in the science community, and clearly he was inspirational to Gates and many at Microsoft. ( you don't call something project TUVA if your not a Feynman fan ) I've picked up a copy of six easy pieces - a set of cassette tapes with his lectures on physics a few years back so my kids could hear him speak when they were old enough to appreciate the subject matter. I've been keeping an old cassette walkman around to play them and was worried that at some point they would become unplayable and lost to me. Knowing the publishing community - -they would just let this IP die and it would be lost. Reading that these would be available -- in any format -- is great news. Preserving the words of Feynman for future generations, whether as a scientist or a role model -- its kind of what this internet thing is for.

    66. Re:I know why. by Dolohov · · Score: 1

      It's not just video files, it's the annotations, commentary tracks, and a variety of links keyed in to particular timestamps. Someone put some significant time and energy into this project, it's not just posting ripped video to a website.

    67. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's the first video I've watched with silverlight and it was so unbearably choppy I stopped it and tried to find the media in a more amicable format...

    68. Re:I know why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. F-ing silverlight! bite me.

    69. Re:I know why. by mshannon78660 · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, you can still buy Six Easy Pieces in CD format (I received it as a present 6 or 7 years ago). I occasionally play the CDs in my car when driving with my daughter (who is now 9).

    70. Re:I know why. by mattwarden · · Score: 1

      You people are ridiculous. I could think of about 9 million better ways to get a higher number of people installing Silverlight per dollar spent. Even targeting the geek population (which this does) is stupid from that perspective because that is the most concentrated area of people who dislike Microsoft and wouldn't install Silverlight on principle. It's also the group who would be most likely to be able to install the alternative.

      Seriously, do you really think that Bill Gates cares at all whether you install Silverlight?

      The dude is way past the money grubbing phase and has turned to philanthropy in order to pay for his sins. It is textbook psychology.

    71. Re:I know why. by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I really wanted to change the subject. I thought it would have been about how well he could explain and teach things, and how how his lectures changed how our view of reality (for me it did), and how people that never heard of Richard Feynman should see his lectures etc..

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  3. No joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Cows that fart less methane would be a *huge* boon to global warming.

    1. Re:No joke by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      The fact that is isn't real is the joke. Kind of like Gates' operating system.

      Sorry, I'm having a real bad day today.

    2. Re:No joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Cows that fart less methane would be a *huge* boon to global warming.

      Actually they belch it.

  4. Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ballmer and Gates also echoed the note Business Division President Stephen Elop sounded in an interview with CNET News last week--that Microsoft really doesn't know what Chrome OS will look like.

    "Who knows what this thing is?" Ballmer said.

    It's the Linux kernel with a new UI. Probably will have some other beefed up parts (security or graphics) along with better hardware support on select devices as they throw their weight around. Judging by the name, it will most likely have a windowing look a lot like the browser. Could be different but I'll bet they build it with real estate in mind like the Chrome browser for netbooks.

    I'm also guessing that you know a hell of a lot more about Chrome OS than many of Google's own employees as you've never been entirely stupid when it comes to keeping tabs on your enemies. So either you're letting your own personal ego get in the way of your business sense while underestimating Google or you are asking a rhetorical question to spread uncertainty of what Chrome OS could be. Either way it's pretty childish. I may not know exactly what Chrome OS is but I definitely know what Windows Vista is and I do not want.

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    1. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I agree. He should have said "it took us a long time to secure Windows, who knows what security flaws Chrome OS 1.0 will have"

      Paypal my fee to the usual account Mr Ballmer.

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    2. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing something like tinycore where most of the os is actually non writable.

    3. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

      >> Ballmer and Gates also echoed the note Business Division President Stephen Elop sounded in an interview with CNET News last week--that Microsoft really doesn't know what Chrome OS will look like. "Who knows what this thing is?" Ballmer said.

      > It's the Linux kernel with a new UI. Probably will have some other beefed up parts (security or graphics) along with better hardware support on select devices as they throw their weight around.

      Maybe Ballmer just sucks at explaining things?

      :-)

    4. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by mcgrew · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Either way it's pretty childish

      No more childish than requiring Silverlight to read some lectures. No more childish than Windows. No more childish than Microsoft's advertising. No more childish than Ballmer's chair throwing and his "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!"

      "Childish" is par for the course with Microsoft.

    5. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by avandesande · · Score: 2, Insightful

      //It's the Linux kernel with a new UI.//

      You seem to be suggesting that a new interface for linux is passe- but look at what Apple did with BSD.

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    6. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by SterlingSylver · · Score: 1

      I'm also guessing that you know a hell of a lot more about Chrome OS than many of Google's own employees as you've never been entirely stupid when it comes to keeping tabs on your enemies. So either you're letting your own personal ego get in the way of your business sense while underestimating Google or you are asking a rhetorical question to spread uncertainty of what Chrome OS could be.

      I'm not so sure that we can call FUD on this statement. I mean, at this point Chrome OS does seem like a fairly vague concept. Linux-based OS designed for cloud computing...maybe...and even then what would that mean? "Who knows what this thing is?" is a reasonable statement. Yeah it's Steve Balmer so you don't expect him to be a big supporter of the OS, but I'd expect that MS, Slashdot, and the internet in general will be spilling a lot of digital ink finding out what this thing is over the next 6-24 months.

      Then after a reasonable 2-3 year beta period we'll be able to make an educated statement.

    7. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      It wouldn`t take too much time if they relied on a 40 year old way of doing things instead of re-inventing wheel.

      It is like attempting to re-invent door lock and failing over and over while people happily use their thousands years old "old technology" which was tested to the limit.

    8. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      No more childish than MS bashing.

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    9. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Guilty as charged, you honor.

    10. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by geekoid · · Score: 1

      MS has a history of underestimating things.
      Little things, like GUI, email and the Internet.

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    11. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      How is windows childish?

    12. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by EMB+Numbers · · Score: 1

      More to the point, look what Apple acquired when they bought NeXT's GUI for BSD. It is sad that GUI technologies and design that shipped commercially in 1988 were largely ignored in favor of X11/Motif and GDI/Windows "Classic". It is astonishing that Windows 3.0 shipped years AFTER NeXTstep and Microsoft wasn't too embarrassed to release it. There is no excuse for the multitude of lame X11 GUIs that have proliferated.

      Apple's Mac OS X finally popularized a lobotomized version of NeXT's GUI with aqua glossy candy colors.

    13. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's one thing I really hate on NeXT: The cursed heritage of the file browser that we see on Mac OS X's Finder. It really sucks.

    14. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it a rest. He doesn't want to look like an idiot by giving a detailed answer based on guesswork, and he doesn't really want to talk about it anyway, so he said something non-committal.
      +5 insightful my ass. I promise you that you analyzed this question more carefully than he did.

    15. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the Linux kernel with a new UI.

      It's Chrome/GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!

    16. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Its interface has that "OOH SHINEY!" look that unfortunately takes resources. I want a tool to look like a tool, not a toy, especially when making the tool look like a toy takes away the tool's resources, limiting its usefulness. I want my computer to be fast, I don't care about pretty.

      Microsoft isn't alone here, they're a commercial venture and as such are market oriented. "Sell the sizzle, not the steak". Pontiac, for example, is no different: "We build excitement". I don't want excitement, I want transportation. Excitement is the LAST thing I want in a car. IMO "We build excitement" is childish.

    17. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      I am running 7 on this box what slow downs should I be seeing? As far as I can tell it is very fast and very responsive. You also overlook all the changes that Microsoft has made to windows over the past 7 to 10 years

    18. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by EMB+Numbers · · Score: 1

      I agree. The Mac OS X Finder is the worst of NeXT's browser combined with the worst of OS 9's Finder with neither working quite right in OS X. I hope it will be better in Snow Leopard.

    19. Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      If you ran it on the box that XP came loaded with when XP first came out I imagine you would have some slowdowns, unless it was a cutting edge game machine when you bought it, and maybe even then.

  5. How badly do I want to see it? by gzearfoss · · Score: 1

    Honestly, not badly enough to want to install Silverlight on my PC.
    I'm not planning on installing it until A) I need it to access critical websites (that is, critical by my definition - sites for my bank and credit cards, for example) and B) the Flashblock plugin will treat Silverlight on webpages like it does Flash.

    1. Re:How badly do I want to see it? by Ilgaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your bank requires Silverlight while 98% of Planet has Flash installed, they are desperate for MS money or donation of servers which is not a good thing for banks. It also means there is some MS technology involved in process as opposed to AIX/UNIX/zOS which are "rolls royce" of servers and chosen by banks who prefers reliability to price.

      Same goes for anyone "subscribing" to media outlets for a long time which requires Silverlight . It probably means they are easily bought out.

    2. Re:How badly do I want to see it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your bank needs a flash plugin to function, i'd say it's time to get another bank. Who knows what else they are wasting your money on.

    3. Re:How badly do I want to see it? by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Same goes for anyone "subscribing" to media outlets for a long time which requires Silverlight . It probably means they are easily bought out.

      What else would you use if you wanted to do cost-effective live HD streaming?

      Media companies who use Silverlight are mainly using it to do stuff there aren't any other ways to do.

      We're seeing a huge amount of live sports projects using Silverlight, because nothing else can deliver the same experience economically.

      Her's a bunch of high-profile projects: http://team.silverlight.net/

    4. Re:How badly do I want to see it? by initialE · · Score: 1

      Let's be a bit more specific here. If your bank requires Silverlight, it's the CIO or some IT manager looking for some personal kickbacks, not necessarily the entire bank itself.

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    5. Re:How badly do I want to see it? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      If your bank requires Silverlight while 98% of Planet has Flash installed, they are desperate for MS money or donation of servers which is not a good thing for banks.

      It could also mean that you took a wrong turn and accidently went to a movie theater instead of a bank. Seriously, why the hell does a bank need a video player?

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    6. Re:How badly do I want to see it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is some MS technology involved in process as opposed to AIX/UNIX/zOS which are "rolls royce" of servers and chosen by banks who prefers reliability to price.

      I used to work in a company that built a suite of (C++) enterprise apps used by most large enterprises in the manufacturing sector (i.e. many of the Fortune 1000). We had ported to various versions of AIX, Solaris, HPUX, and Windows. I definitely wouldn't call AIX a 'rolls royce'. Our apps were highly CPU intensive, and required lots of memory - and we used to run into bugs with threading / memory management ... etc. fairly often with AIX. We did not see nearly as many problems with Solaris, HPUX, or Windows.

  6. Then Use Moonlight Instead by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative

    He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web

    That's easy. It's a good way to lure technically minded people into installing Silverlight. No sale here Gates, I'll wait until it's available by torrent.

    For the technically literate, Moonlight is open source. You should try it out to view these. Word of warning, it uses some of the same protocols so if you're concerned about violating Microsoft's copyright, better to avoid it. They are listed under the community promise now but you never know. And if you're RMS, you're probably going to rip this post apart.

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    1. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Ilgaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don`t have to be RMS to reject Microsoft`s "me too" technologies cloned by their clowns.

    2. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't Linux "me too" tech too?

    3. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Ilgaz · · Score: 1, Informative

      I don`t care, I use UNIX 03 aka OS X. Only good thing coming from MS are fonts which they purchased exclusive rights and Apple licensed them for me so I paid for them. No shadowy agreements etc.

    4. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't all tech "me too" tech of previous tech?

    5. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, no, it isn't. There was no GPL'd kernel for GNU before Linux came.

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    6. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by metus · · Score: 0, Troll

      What's wrong with offering content for free as an incentive to push your tech?

      Flash needs to be taken out back and shot anyways.

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    7. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hurd was GPL. And the *BSD code existed and could be relicensed to GPL. Either way, Linux was a "me-too" version of minix and unix.

    8. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, It is "me too" in the Unix likeness department.

    9. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Repossessed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm going to rip it apart for different reasons than RMS would.. I installed moonlight, but every time I tried to access a silverlight page it refused to even try to load, said I needed silverlight instead.

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    10. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I changed the Firefox user agent string to get past the "Browser Incompatible" bullshit, but it still won't recognize Moonlight as a Silverlight replacement and requires you to download silverlight.exe.

      about:config

      general.useragent.override = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

    11. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It uses a TuvaLoader.dll, can moonlight use windows dlls?

      http://research.microsoft.com/apps/tools/tuva/ClientBin/Tuva.Loader.xap

      open the .xap with ark.

    12. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by CodeBuster · · Score: 0, Troll

      You don`t have to be RMS to reject Microsoft`s "me too" technologies cloned by their clowns.

      Perhaps not, but why reject them completely out of hand? I like to see competition in the technology space, it keeps everyone sharp and allows the best ideas to rise to the top. Also, different companies and projects are good at different things. Some do new product development really well, exploring interesting concepts, but botch the implementation or don't get the details quite right while others are good at refining and perfecting a concept (open source is especially good at this), which someone else originated, but are not as good at coming up with novel or new ideas.

      IMHO, the open source community has been particularly hard on .NET and Mono because of the connections between Novell, Microsoft, and Miguel. If you are concerned about patents then, as RMS has said many times before, even writing all of the code or using GPL only code is not a defense; if the patent holder wants to show up and file suit then he can. In other words, software patents are a problem no matter whether you use .NET or Mono or not; open source and even open standards (which generally include the "reasonable licensing terms" clauses for patents) will not protect you from that threat. That being said the CLI and .NET really have contributed novel new implementations, even if the concepts have been floating around academia for a while now. So can we please stop condemning all that Microsoft touches without at least acknowledging when something they had a hand in was done well?

    13. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by lxs · · Score: 2, Funny

      Come over to the dark side Luke...

    14. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you cut the crap please? Mono is useless if it doesn't follow Silverlight closely. Now, last time I gave it a try, I needed Silverlight 2.0. Guess what: Mono only speaks Silverlight 1.0, and it's 2.0 part is in pre-alpha stage right now. Wasn't Microsoft talking about 3.0 earlier?

    15. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Perhaps not, but why reject them completely out of hand? "

      because of their business practices?

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    16. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And there was no GPL'd plugin for running silverlight content before Moonlight came.

      Insightful, my ass. Linux is "me too" unix. Moonlight is "me too" silverlight.

    17. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Isn't Linux "me too" tech too?

      I'd say it was - obviously it started as a unix reimplementation.
      But I think it has well surpassed those pedestrian origins now.

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    18. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Linux reimplemented Unix, thus joining tyhe family of the best operating systems ever created.
      Moonlight tries to reimplement Silverlight, some piece of crap from Microsoft with no technical merit whatsoever.

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    19. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      some piece of crap from Microsoft with no technical merit whatsoever

      This from some douchebag dweeb on Slashdot who knows nothing at all about the technology.

      You guys crack me up. You do know MS has the money to pay people far, far smarter than you (or 99.5% of Open Source developers), right? So given this funding and the ability to attract talent are yo positing that simply entering into employment makes these people somehow dumb? Or are you just saying in not so many words you are clueless and stupid?

    20. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      How is Silverlight crap? Please be specific.

    21. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the parent meant is that linux is a "me too" of unix...

    22. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't work.

    23. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by ZMerLynn · · Score: 1

      Please don't perpetuate this myth. You can't just strip off the BSD license and replace it with the GPL - the BSD license *is* the license to the code, and the BSD license doesn't give you the right to modify the license. In fact, it specifically says that the license must remain intact.

    24. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by benwaggoner · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you running the current Moonlight Preview? That's required for managed code support, and hence Smooth Streaming.

      This definitely works in Moonlight. If you can see it, you've got it installed correctly.
      http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming

    25. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by GF678 · · Score: 1

      I'm going to rip it apart for different reasons than RMS would.. I installed moonlight, but every time I tried to access a silverlight page it refused to even try to load, said I needed silverlight instead.

      Go here: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight-preview/

      Install the extension, then go here: http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx

      It will work beautifully.

    26. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Kickasso · · Score: 1

      What exactly works in Moonlight? I only see a gray rectangle where the player is supposed to be. This is a mild improvement over "your browser is not supported" screen.

    27. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Actually, no, it isn't. There was no GPL'd kernel for GNU before Linux came.

      What you're saying is that if I were to hypothetically take a piece of code that's in the public domain and slap the GPL on it, I will have created an entirely new piece of software that's not a "me too" product because the license is what uniquely identifies it rather than the functionality?

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    28. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And there was no microsoft-supported embeded browser object before silverlight came.

      See, I can play the arbitrary distinction game too!

      Cloning things just to GPL them doesn't make them less of a clone.

    29. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by wakingrufus · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Then how about we reject their business practices, without rejecting the technology?

    30. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      You do know MS has the money to pay people far, far smarter than you (or 99.5% of Open Source developers), right?

      No, I don't even know what people are "smarter than me or 99.5%" of anything.

      I do however know what precisely Microsoft does with people whom they consider "smart" -- pays them to work for "Microsoft Research" producing nothing at all, so they won't work for someone else.

      Everything Microsoft produces follows their traditional model -- bring a lot of people who know nothing about software development, and let them tinker with bad code to produce more and worse code.

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    31. Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      Specifically it's a solution to a problem that no one but Microsoft has. If Microsoft wanted to make a video player, they would simply bundle better codecs with their stupid Media Player. If Microsoft wanted to make an interactive HTTP-based platform, they would bundle HTML5-supporting browser.

      However since the death of IE and Microsoft Office exclusivity their real problem is lack of lock-up into Microsoft-only software, they produced an incompatible monstrosity with no technical merit whatsoever.

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  7. patent 'cows that don't fart' not a joke? by with+a+'c' · · Score: 1

    With Bill's patent for stopping hurricanes why is a patent for cows that don't fart a joke? http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/One_force_of_nature_vs_another_Bill_Gates_wants_to_stop_hurricanes_50385622.html

    1. Re:patent 'cows that don't fart' not a joke? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Cows that don't fart (or at least not fart as much) is possibly feasable. Stopping hurricanes isn't by any stretch.

  8. Only skimmed it, but... by CannonballHead · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ... the interview was actually somewhat interesting. I have to say that, whatever I think about MS, Gates is a pretty interesting guy... and appears to be pretty smart and "well rounded. IMO, he made a pretty insightful (mod him +1 ;) ) comment about Google... the more vague it is, the more interesting it is.

    Meh. I didn't like Vista, and kinda like 7 so far. Some MS products are cool. Some are awful. But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

    1. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... the interview was actually somewhat interesting. I have to say that, whatever I think about MS, Gates is a pretty interesting guy... and appears to be pretty smart

      ..yep a real cool guy, and doesn't afraid of anything.

    2. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Some MS products are cool.

      I wouldn't say it's "cool", but I like Excel better than any other spreadsheet I've tried. Their mouse is pretty good, and my daughter (who works at Gamestop) likes her X-box.

      Some are awful.

      Yes, about every other MS product I've had the displeasure to use, including some (e.g. FoxPro) that I use to love that MS ganked up to utter unuseability.

      But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

      He's not stupid by any means, but he DID get lucky. If he wasn't the son of two IBM lawyers and the CP/M guy hadn't told IBM to go piss up a rope, your computer wouldn't be running Windows.

    3. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by teknopurge · · Score: 1

      It's every other major OS release that sucks from Microsoft. It's not an accident either.

    4. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      You can get rich while being an idiot, but that rich? He had to have some brains somewhere.

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    5. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by nine-times · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

      I don't think many people believe that Gates is stupid and merely got lucky. The criticism more likely to be leveled at him is that he got where he is more through business acumen than through producing high-quality products.

    6. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by the_womble · · Score: 2, Informative

      But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

      I don't think many people believe that Gates is stupid and merely got lucky. The criticism more likely to be leveled at him is that he got where he is more through business acumen than through producing high-quality products.

      But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

      I don't think many people believe that Gates is stupid and merely got lucky. The criticism more likely to be leveled at him is that he got where he is more through business acumen than through producing high-quality products.

      Business acumen, and through inherited money and influence: he had enough money to risk dropping out to start a business, and a few years later his business got a huge boost when they got the contract to supply DOS to IBM, the decision to award that contract being taken by a man who knew BIll Gates; mother.

      He is undoubtedly smart (lots of people start by inheriting millions, very few of them turn it into billions), but he he would never have made the same amount of money if he came from an average family however smart he was.

    7. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Funny

      He had to have some brains somewhere.

      In a jar marked Abby something...

    8. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by jmichaelg · · Score: 1

      This first-hand article gives a bit of insight into how Bill Gates ran Microsoft. Certainly doesn't give the impression that Gates was stupid.

      http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/06/16.html

    9. Re:Only skimmed it, but... by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Well I wouldn't argue that he didn't benefit from luck and circumstances, but no one is going to reach that level of success while being extraordinarily unlucky. At the same time, he wasn't merely lucky, and most people recognize that.

      But on the other hand, some supporters may want to take his success to be evidence of the value of Gates' work, which I don't think quite makes sense. That your actions have been successful is making money for yourself doesn't mean that your actions have been good for the rest of us.

  9. Well I can think of one reason why... by dan_sdot · · Score: 1, Insightful

    He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web

    Well, one reason I can say for sure is that he happens to have billions of dollars in his bank account. So the cost of doing this is amounts to a rounding error in his checking account. Let's not ascribe too much a sense of moral duty to him for doing this.

    When people sing the praises of the ultra-wealthy who donate a bit of money to this or that, it makes me annoyed a little bit. On the one hand, yes, it is good for them to give money to good causes. But on the other hand, they usually do not donate anything close to being something that they would actually feel. Some do, but most don't.

    1. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by metageek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      however much we dislike Gates and M$, we must recognize that he is a serious philantropist and has a record on donations to charity, particularly towards serious world problems like malaria, measles, etc. That is something good I can say about him. Silverlight, on the other hand, is not :(

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    2. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...they usually do not donate anything close to being something that they would actually feel.

      And for a man worth billions of dollars, what bullshit arbitrary number do you propose he donate? I didn't know a donation had to hit you in the wallet for it to be of any use.

    3. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But on the other hand, they usually do not donate anything close to being something that they would actually feel. Some do, but most don't.

      Well I think Bill Gates, when you add up a lot of the things he's done, has donated more than what would be a rounding error. Still, you can look at all these things in the sense that it's no more generous for Gates to give away a few billion dollars than it is courageous for Superman to jump in front of a bullet. The hurt isn't large. It's not as though Gates is going to cease to live an extremely comfortable lifestyle. What's more, you could argue that something like this is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. Gates is screwing society out of billions of dollars through underhanded business tactics, only to give back a portion of the money through charitable donations.

      You can argue those things, but on the other hand, it's not always worth looking a gift horse in the mouth. He's donating more than he's required to, and doing it of his own free will. May as well be pleased about that.

    4. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 1

      What's more, you could argue that something like this is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. Gates is screwing society out of billions of dollars through underhanded business tactics, only to give back a portion of the money through charitable donations.

      Yeah, but if "Peter" is some faceless multinational corporation, and "Paul" is the teeming masses of not-inoculated third-world poor... well, rob away, says I.

    5. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Well "Peter" is pretty much everyone who can afford a computer, and perhaps the future of many of those who can't, while "Paul" is some portion of those who can't afford a computer. You still might be OK with that, but it's not quite as awesome as what you said.

    6. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "...anything close to being something that they would actually feel. "

      ou don't know a lot of rich people, do you?

      I do, through an odd marriage.
      In fact, I went to ones funeral, when they were talking about him, they said "And he never borrowed any money, not even for a cup of coffee" Like that was the highest praise you could assign someone.

      Rich people are usually very aware of every dollar.

      There probably more aware of it's worth, and value then people who aren't rich. If they aren't then soon they won't be rich.

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    7. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by Rik+Rohl · · Score: 1

      There's also the little problem that the money he has comes from ripping off the entire planet for a decade or more with forced lock-in to crappy, massively overpriced software.

      I not really enamored by him trying to be the great philanthropist and attempting to build some legacy by giving his fortune away. I'd much rather have the money I paid to MS back in my pocket thanks.

    8. Re:Well I can think of one reason why... by ignavus · · Score: 1

      He's donating more than he's required to, and doing it of his own free will. May as well be pleased about that.

      My (poor) understanding of US inheritance laws makes it a necessity to give away his fortune to charities and charitable foundations if he doesn't want the government to get hold of 45% of it.

      So the altruism would be jumping out of the way of the oncoming truck.

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  10. Mirror, please? by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Click here to download. Needs no restart".

    The Goddamned site requires suilverlight. Now why would lectures need silverlight? Damn it, I just want to read the paper, not play some goofy game.

    I see why Gates put these on the net, he wants more Silverlight penetration. Evil bastard will rot in hell when he dies.

    1. Re:Mirror, please? by MartinSchou · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I just want to read the paper

      Then go and find the papers. The site has the lectures as videos. I don't know about you, but I cannot translate any kind of video format (outside of animated ASCII) in my head. Same for audio formats.

    2. Re:Mirror, please? by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      I wonder if I should grab the videos, repack it in a mp4 file and publish it to pirate bay as in torrent?

      The only issue would be installing Silverlight and being another number in MS statistics. I don`t have tripwire on this partition too and I have no time to review .pkg.

      I bet someone else who got experience in these things is already on it.

    3. Re:Mirror, please? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I cannot translate any kind of video format (outside of animated ASCII) in my head. Same for audio formats.

      That's because your UID is so high. Us oldsters can do that sort of thing in our sleep.

      Sheesh. Kids these days.

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    4. Re:Mirror, please? by mcgrew · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I don't need a video, dumbass, I can read. Post the goddamned transcript and save everybody a lot of wasted bandwidth.

      Jesus, my day is bad enough without a bunch of AC stalkers flaming me. Now go tell your mom I have twenty bucks for her, I'm horney.

    5. Re:Mirror, please? by mozzis · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

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    6. Re:Mirror, please? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      haha jokes on you, there is no hell.

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    7. Re:Mirror, please? by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      Call yourself an oldster? Coming on here with your newfangled 700k user id.

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    8. Re:Mirror, please? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      OK Gramps, calm down.

      Next, you're going to tell me that in your day, they didn't even have video codecs and you liked it that way.

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    9. Re:Mirror, please? by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I went to Adobe's site to watch a video and those cocksuckers require Flash. I can see why Adobe puts their videos on the net -- it's because they want more Flash penetration. I hope Adobe rots in hell when they all die.

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    10. Re:Mirror, please? by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Who woke up the mummies?

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    11. Re:Mirror, please? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I see you've never met my ex-wife.

  11. Re:Not installing silverlight by AndrewBuck · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wrestled with the idea for a minute or two and decided I would bite the bullet and take silverlight if I get to see the Feynman (I have been trying to find these videos for a long time, the DVD's are something like $800 if I remember correctly). However when I click the install thing I get "Sorry, your browser is not compatible".

    I thought silverlight was supposed to be microsoft's answer to flash but I guess it will never be more than a curiosity/minor annoyance if they can't even be bothered to support firefox. Oh well, as someone above pointed out, torrents are undoubtedly on the way so I'll just have to wait a bit more.

    -Buck

  12. The bigger problem... by nametaken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't care that it's MS Research. The irritating part is that my "browser is not compatible" because I don't use silverlight.

    Oh, and regarding Bill's comments on it being a bad idea for Google to have two OS's (Chrome and Android)... MS HAS MORE THAN ONE OS, DUMBSHIT! Is Gates so out of touch that he thinks that win mobiles run Vista?

    1. Re:The bigger problem... by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Oh, and regarding Bill's comments on it being a bad idea for Google to have two OS's (Chrome and Android)...Is Gates so out of touch that he thinks that win mobiles run Vista?

      Isn't Windows Mobile still running a different kernel, even, then Vista? Chrome and Android are both going to be Linux, and who knows how much they'll share. How many different Windows operating systems are there, including all the different ones that use the same kernel? How many versions of Windows Server are there? How many of Windows on the desktop? Are there different versions of Windows Mobile?

      Microsoft has a lot more than 2 operating systems.

    2. Re:The bigger problem... by religious+freak · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, Chrome and Android are running on vastly different kernels. I've always been under the impression that Win Mobile was a stripped down version of Windows (albeit with modifications), but the core kernel was the same. I would imagine Gates is thinking back to WinNT, Win9x days when things were royally hosed. But hey, what do I know, maybe I'm giving the guy too much credit.

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    3. Re:The bigger problem... by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      I didn't see him complaining that Google has to OS's, I saw him commenting that Google having a netbook OS was nothing new.

    4. Re:The bigger problem... by Slothrup · · Score: 1

      regarding Bill's comments on it being a bad idea for Google to have two OS's (Chrome and Android)... MS HAS MORE THAN ONE OS, DUMBSHIT! Is Gates so out of touch that he thinks that win mobiles run Vista?

      While that was probably the right decision at the time it was made (Windows CE is over ten years old, after all), I think that most people here at MS would do it differently if creating a new mobile OS today.

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    5. Re:The bigger problem... by cbhacking · · Score: 1

      Not a good parallel. Google is new to the OS business, and their core lies far from operating systems or even desktop applications (altyhough they have a reasonable amount of experience there). Microsoft has been making multiple operating systems longer than Google has even existed. They also waited quite a while after creating their first OS line before starting another.

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  13. Read thinking machines instead by Ilgaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What about some great reading in HTML instead? It tells about where the real IT World was while MS was monkeying with some clone of CP/M

    http://www.longnow.org/views/essays/articles/ArtFeynman.php

    BTW, dear BillG: There is something called archive.org if you want to donate something to technical community. They offer standard MPEG and OGG files and Flash, which is current de-facto standard can stream them embedded if one is in hurry. Your attempt to kill Flash has failed, fire that team and target something else.

    1. Re:Read thinking machines instead by drinsilence · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the link , it must have been amazing to have Feynman reporting! I specially like the honesty with which the article was written, for example: "By the end of that summer of 1983, Richard had completed his analysis of the behavior of the router, and much to our surprise and amusement, he presented his answer in the form of a set of partial differential equations. To a physicist this may seem natural, but to a computer designer, treating a set of boolean circuits as a continuous, differentiable system is a bit strange. Feynman's router equations were in terms of variables representing continuous quantities such as "the average number of 1 bits in a message address." I was much more accustomed to seeing analysis in terms of inductive proof and case analysis than taking the derivative of "the number of 1's" with respect to time. Our discrete analysis said we needed seven buffers per chip; Feynman's equations suggested that we only needed five. We decided to play it safe and ignore Feynman. The decision to ignore Feynman's analysis was made in September, but by next spring we were up against a wall. The chips that we had designed were slightly too big to manufacture and the only way to solve the problem was to cut the number of buffers per chip back to five. Since Feynman's equations claimed we could do this safely, his unconventional methods of analysis started looking better and better to us. We decided to go ahead and make the chips with the smaller number of buffers. Fortunately, he was right. When we put together the chips the machine worked. The first program run on the machine in April of 1985 was Conway's game of Life. " [ http://www.longnow.org/views/essays/articles/ArtFeynman.php ]

  14. Slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since it seems it's slashdotted alread, here's a mirror

  15. ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by Shuh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is less about distributing knowledge and more about increasing distribution of Microsoft's video/web-technology, Silverlight .

  16. A model for the world, but not for Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To quote Gates from the article:
    Gates said that he hoped his action would serve as a model for taking great educational content and making it broadly available for free.
    and "...With super-high-quality material like this up there for free, I hope people see the potential, and that they'd benefit from this one in particular, and then it starts to push forward the idea if someone is great lecturer, then their work should be out there and available."
    This philosophy of course does not apply to work of inferior software companies, which can charge exorbitant amounts for their software. But great lecturers'
    work should be made available for free.

    Truly philanthropic...Kudos!

    1. Re:A model for the world, but not for Microsoft... by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 1

      Yeah! Feynman's getting the shaft here! Never mind the fact that he's been dead for 21 years...

  17. Clearly you don't play online poker by Petersko · · Score: 1

    "Here's what I want ... if I flick off my windows pc, it will automatically hit ctrl-alt-delete. That would allow me to release stress, and save me a few keyboard clicks."

    There are many reasons I would (assuming "flip"?) flick off my Windows pc - and MANY reasons why I would flick off my linux PC - for reasons that have nothing to do with an O/S failure. That wouldn't be practical.

  18. won't load in firefox on linux by Sir_Real · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently my browser is incompatible with the "web app." One wonders what standards their web is based on.

    1. Re:won't load in firefox on linux by Rick+Bentley · · Score: 1

      Won't load in Chrome on XP either, it says "sorry, your browser is not compatible". Really? There's something wrong with my browser? Or did MS just choose not to have things work on Chrome. When we launch a new web service at my company we test across a lot of browsers, including Chrome and IE, to make sure our stuff works. I guess we're just better at web dev than MS, though that's a pretty low bar.

      Firefox on XP prompts me to install Silverlight "A cool new browser add-on that brings Web experiences like this to life. Installation is secure, free, and only takes a few seconds". I had to download a .exe file, okay I guess I'll put that under c:\Programs\Silverlight, and then run it, and then it took about 20 seconds to install and then it wanted me to restart my browser. Total time a minute or two.

      I love Feynman, but MS just makes me itch.

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  19. but you gotta know what project tuva is by Ilgaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Funny is Tuva is really close to word Truva in Turkish which is basically the city of Troy. Installing some silverlight clone to be able to watch them really reminds "trojan". :)

    1. Re:but you gotta know what project tuva is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tuva is a republic in Soviet Russia (now part of the Russian Federation) that Feynman always wanted to visit. A rather fitting title for hosting his lectures methinks.

    2. Re:but you gotta know what project tuva is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Tuva is really named after a small place in Asia that Feynman had tried to go to for most of his life. Naming the project Tuva is a tribute to Feynman.

      dom

  20. Youtube links for non-sliverlighters by RyanHam · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.

    2. Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      That post alone explains the reason of Silverlight and its trojan clone.

      For example, not just Linux users, Symbian users can also view them as well as anything supporting Flash video. Or, they can easily change the container as it is completely documented and watch in their multimedia device.

      Man Flash must be really bugging them.

    3. Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1
      Kinda cool to learn about the dude whose name is on the building I do some work at:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman#Commemorations

      The main building for the Computing Division at Fermilab, the FCC, is named in his honor: The "Feynman Computing Center".[42]

      Thanks for the links!

    4. Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters by rhizome · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Looks like Bill couldn't give something to the world without including a self-serving requirement.

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    5. Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters by bcrowell · · Score: 1

      TFA doesn't explain what Gates actually did with the rights: whether he went ahead and put the videos in the public domain, or is just making them free-as-in-beer on microscoft.com, or ... what? Can someone who has silverlight check the beginning and end of the video, and see whether it says anything about licensing, copyright, etc.?

    6. Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you.

  21. Wonders of Physics for Everyone by StylusEater · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So Billy G wants to bring "...[the wonders of science to everyone]..." except for those of us not using Internet Explorer...ahhh...so refreshing!

    1. Re:Wonders of Physics for Everyone by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So Billy G wants to bring "...[the wonders of science to everyone]..." except for those of us not using Internet Explorer...ahhh...so refreshing!

      The site works fine in both Firefox and Safari, on my Mac.

    2. Re:Wonders of Physics for Everyone by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Try it in chrome.
      Try it on a blackberry, or most other smart phones.
      Try it on a BSD or linux OS.

    3. Re:Wonders of Physics for Everyone by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      The site doesn't work fine on my G5 iMac.

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  22. Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    omg... CONSPIRACY!!!!

  23. It may not be a joke by bickle · · Score: 1

    The bit about cows may not be a joke, as there was a similar story on Slashdot not long ago: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/24/1710252

    1. Re:It may not be a joke by gubers33 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It isn't a joke, there is really a bunch of scientist trying to genetically engineer cows that don't fart. It is actually one of the hotter topics regarding to Global Warming. Livestock are responsible for 18 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, a bigger share than that of transportation.Yes, everyone has been blaming the SUVs, but really the cows are the bigger blame.

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    2. Re:It may not be a joke by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      I thought most of the gas came from burps. They should be making cows that don't burp.

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    3. Re:It may not be a joke by gubers33 · · Score: 1

      I have heard both.

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    4. Re:It may not be a joke by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it is arepleinshed gases. The problem is using oil thats been under ground for millions of years.

      No farting cows is a waste of money.

      SUVs burn petroleum that's been in the ground, cow fart when they ate which is reabsorbed when new food is grown to feed the cow.
      And it's not like the gas won't go anywhere. It has to leave the cow some how. If not at the moment, then when it dies. You could consider changed the feed.

      Cars and coal are the problems.

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    5. Re:It may not be a joke by lahvak · · Score: 1

      Unless you feed your cows mineral oil products or coal, greenhouse gas emissions from cows should not be much of a problem.

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  24. Generous Philanthropists by Hankenstein · · Score: 1

        Totally off the real topic but Bill Gates actually rates well in the percentage of net
    worth donated. http://www.businessweek.com/pdfs/2004/0448_philan.pdf

          The above link doesn't reflect my next unsubstatiated statement but Larry Elison has
    historically done very poorly at giving significant percentages of his income.

  25. What if it is really only new UI? by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    OS X is NeXT/BSD Lite/Carbon/FreeBSD with a new UI and collection of frameworks. That almost schizoid mix of things is being chosen instead of Windows by 70 year old ladies because it is easier to use!

    One gotta be afraid of "new UI" things especially when they are released by some company almost same size as them. Funny thing is, Google can lose billions with no harm (just like MS silverlight) and say "oh well, it didn`t work" and continue their regular business. In fact they don`t even have to cancel it as it will be open source.

  26. Trying to keep an open mind... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but this guy still makes me facepalm.

    "It just shows the word browser has become a truly meaningless word," Gates said. "What's a browser? What's not a browser? If you're playing a movie, is that a browser or not a browser? If you're doing annotations, is that a browser? If you're editing text, is that a browser or not a browser? In large part, it's more an abuse of terminology than a real change."

    Editing text has been part of browsing ever since HTML forms were introduced. Playing movies has been part of browsers since QuickTime and RealPlayer -- so, could easily be 10 years.

    And of course, he's playing dumb about the real difference here. It seems like he's trying to suggest that it shouldn't be called a "browser", but rather, we should be talking about text editors and movie players.

    No, see, the difference is whether I can just watch stuff on YouTube, edit text on Google Docs, pretty much do whatever I want on the Internet, without downloading anything other than a browser update. It means I get a fat client to some very cool services -- one that auto-updates the next time I refresh, yet one that's sufficiently sandboxed as not to be able to touch anything else in my OS.

    It also means that when developing such applications, not only are they automatically cross-platform, but I can develop most of the logic as part of the server, and on the server side, I can use whatever technologies and languages I want.

    And this reality is something Microsoft has been fighting since day 1, with the bastardization of web technology that is IE, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Gates doesn't get it. I guess I gave him the benefit of the doubt...

    Ballmer and Gates also stressed the fact that Google now has two operating systems--Chrome OS and Android. Ballmer noted that Microsoft learned with the separate Windows 95 for consumers and Windows NT for businesses that having two operating systems isn't necessarily a positive thing.

    *facepalm*

    Ok, leaving aside the fact that you've got, what, five or six versions of Vista, and it looks as though there will be even more versions of Win7 -- just what does Gates think runs on Windows Mobile? It's not Vista, and it's not Win7.

    Sure, Chrome OS and Android are closer to each other than Windows Mobile and Vista, but they're still directed at different markets -- Chrome OS is meant for netbooks, while Android was meant for mobile phones. Android runs on netbooks, but serves an entirely different purpose -- while NT and Win95 look exactly the same -- oh, and as he pointed out, Android has a browser, meaning anything Chrome OS can do, Android can do -- meaning it's more like comparing Vista Starter with Vista Ultimate, whereas NT and Win95 actually had mutually incompatible software.

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    1. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by erroneous · · Score: 0, Troll

      So when Mircosoft do something it's "bastardizing", but when it's Apple (Quicktime) or Real Player then it's "part of browsers"?

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    2. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

      You're not thinking on the same level.

      Gates's assertion is that the ideology of a browser is being warped and abused because the technology driving it is being intermingled with the notion of being able to see and search for stuff. While this is somewhat critical with Google's approach of centralizing the browser in the OS, it's also kind of sidestepping the question.

      See, in the beginning, when communication was simple and numbers were small, browsers were used to do just that --- browse the contents on the Web, and nothing else. Interaction with those contents was done behind the curtain, and changes magically appeared before you. As the complexity and usefulness of the Internet increased, people naturally felt that a one-way interaction with the Web would not be possible. Hence, the browser became more like a communicator of sorts (no, not Netscape Communicator), which is kind of what it is today.

      Now, I don't think that Gates really answered the question; in fact, I think he purposefully diverted from it. The truth of the matter is that as the Internet assumes more and more responsibilities previously relegated to client-side applications, the "browser" (or whatever you want to call it) will increasingly gain central relevance. He knows (hopefully) that Microsoft will need to start investing more time in centralizing the Internet experience for its users in a way that stays consistent with their previous working model. However, they should get credit where it's due: they have been trying (albeit going in the wrong direction) since Windows 98 and the inception of Active Desktop. (Remember that? In digression, who actually makes a web page their desktop? Who ever did?)

      This is one of the reasons why Google, if they actually decide to do it, can afford to essentially make the entire GUI contained in a browser (or something of sorts) and Microsoft cannot.

    3. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the most asinine comment I've seen in a while. The reason you can "just watch stuff on YouTube" is because you have installed a plug-in from Adobe (or a clone) that lets you run flash applications. Silverlight is a plugin from Microsoft that lets you run silverlight applications. Saying that one is ok and the other is bogus just shows your bias.

      BTW, Silverlight works on Mac and Firefox, plus the open source Moonlight works on Linux.

    4. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      Quicktime and Real are more in the category of Flash -- I don't particularly like them, either, but IE takes it a step beyond that, and screws up plain old HTML/CSS.

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    5. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      The reason you can "just watch stuff on YouTube" is because you have installed a plug-in from Adobe (or a clone) that lets you run flash applications. Silverlight is a plugin from Microsoft that lets you run silverlight applications.

      First, Flash is already installed everywhere, and Silverlight is not. Flash has also been ported to more platforms than Silverlight.

      plus the open source Moonlight works on Linux.

      Moonlight can be relied on about as much as Wine.

      Second, it's irrelevant. The main reasons for wanting Flash or Silverlight are going away, with faster Javascript VMs and HTML5 stuff like canvas and video. Youtube already supports html5 for at least some of their content. And I qualified it as, you may need to download a browser update -- whether IE will support these things is anyone's guess, but every other browser either will or does already.

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    6. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Moonlight can be relied on about as much as Wine.

      WINE doesn't have the active support of Microosft and a clear license for implementation details.

      Second, it's irrelevant. The main reasons for wanting Flash or Silverlight are going away, with faster Javascript VMs and HTML5 stuff like canvas and video. Youtube already supports html5 for at least some of their content. And I qualified it as, you may need to download a browser update -- whether IE will support these things is anyone's guess, but every other browser either will or does already.

      This player is already doing stuff that was in Silverlght 2 that's not even being proposed as part of HTML5, like Smooth Streaming.

    7. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      WINE doesn't have the active support of Microosft and a clear license for implementation details.

      And Moonlight is currently supported by Microsoft, but there's still the patent issues, and no reason to assume the support will continue forever. Moonlight and Mono in general lags far behind Silverlight and .NET -- much like the situation with Wine and Windows.

      This player is already doing stuff that was in Silverlght 2 that's not even being proposed as part of HTML5, like Smooth Streaming.

      Is that all?

      I am guessing the point here is that if the network is too slow, it automatically switches to a lower-bandwidth stream. Useful, I suppose. I don't see where it's groundbreaking.

      Regardless, I think I've shown my bias pretty clearly -- I don't want Flash or Silverlight. Youtube, and Google, are moving towards browser-centric technologies, rather than plugins.

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    8. Re:Trying to keep an open mind... by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      And Moonlight is currently supported by Microsoft, but there's still the patent issues, and no reason to assume the support will continue forever. Moonlight and Mono in general lags far behind Silverlight and .NET -- much like the situation with Wine and Windows.

      Which patent issue? Is there something specific you're thinking of that hasn't been covered under the Community Promise etcetera?

      I am guessing the point here is that if the network is too slow, it automatically switches to a lower-bandwidth stream. Useful, I suppose. I don't see where it's groundbreaking.

      It's more complicated than that; it's not just classic stream switching. The big differences compared to past approaches are that there's not buffering on stream switching, http is the only protocol required, and the indivdual chunks of video are small enough to get picked up by proxy caches. The latter delivers a lot of the scsalability value of multicast, but with the existing web infrastructure.

      http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=03d22583-3ed6-44da-8464-b1b4b5ca7520

  27. Browser results ... by MartinSchou · · Score: 1

    Obviously, requires you to have Silverlight installed. I'm using Windows, so I don't have a chance to try it with Moonlight. Somewhat disappointing that Moonlight isn't aimed at Windows. Could probably pick up some more users for those of us, who aren't fans of IE or Firefox

    IE 8 - works (duh)
    Firefox 3 - works (surprise)
    Opera 9/10 - doesn't work
    Chrome 2 - doesn't work
    Safari 4 - doesn't work

  28. Chrome is already a failure because it will be OSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chrome is OPEN SOURCE, so it will fail. Nothing that is open source has ever been able to compete effectively with the closed source counterparts. I know I will be moderated down into oblivion for stating this, but there it is.

  29. Just a question... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1, Troll

    ...how did you come up with all this conclusions? Because from what I imagine to be most likely, you know close to nothing about Bill Gates's thoughts, Microsoft internals, Google internals, etc. So I can only guess you have no idea what you are talking about and in typical pundit fashion, pull things out of your ass, that support your p.o.v.

    I really hope I am totally wrong with my guesses, and that you have some special insight. But if, then why did you not base your arguments on it by stating it?
    So correct me if I'm wrong, and I will thank you for having learned something.

    But if I am right, please just shut up. :)

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    1. Re:Just a question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What conclusions? The only thing he conclusively states is that it's running the Linux kernel with a new UI. This was posted here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html .

      The other "conclusions" are what he says starting with "I'm guessing...", "judging by the name...", and "could be different..." Your whole post is just douchebaggery with no relation to the article itself.

  30. Lecture in MKV, MPEG4? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The site need Silverlight to view the lectures, so one has to wonder whether Microsoft was looking for a 'killer application' to make people want to install the plug-in.

    On a more optimistic note, does anyone have these lectures in MKV or MPEG4 format, or at least something using a more open format?

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    1. Re:Lecture in MKV, MPEG4? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Internet video stutters for me, very annoying. (Yes, I installed silverlight because of this) Looking for torrent now... Wouldn't if they (Tuva) knew how to cache like Youtube, while in pause.

    2. Re:Lecture in MKV, MPEG4? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you bother to actually view the lectures on the site, there is significantly more than just video. You get subtitles, optional commentary, bookmarks, notes, and timestamped detail diagrams and sidebars.

      Love or hate silverlight, it is being used for significnatly more than just movie playback here.

    3. Re:Lecture in MKV, MPEG4? by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      The site need Silverlight to view the lectures, so one has to wonder whether Microsoft was looking for a 'killer application' to make people want to install the plug-in.

      It would be lovely to live in a world where historical physics lectures where the killer app to drive installs, but I doubt they'll make a material impact on installed base :).

      Silverlight's already on more than a third of internet-connected devices, so it'd take tens of millions of ne installs for any single site to make a significant market share bump .

    4. Re:Lecture in MKV, MPEG4? by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

      Internet video stutters for me, very annoying. (Yes, I installed silverlight because of this) Looking for torrent now... Wouldn't if they (Tuva) knew how to cache like Youtube, while in pause.

      You're getting stuttering with this player? What's your connection speed and system specs? Where are you located?

      These should be fine as long as you can sustain 300 Kbps or higher.

      Or did you just mean that internet video stutters for you in general?

  31. Re:Not installing silverlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firefox is supported, you might have to manually install Silverlight first.

  32. Re:Not installing silverlight by Dotren · · Score: 1

    I thought silverlight was supposed to be microsoft's answer to flash but I guess it will never be more than a curiosity/minor annoyance if they can't even be bothered to support firefox. Oh well, as someone above pointed out, torrents are undoubtedly on the way so I'll just have to wait a bit more.

    -Buck

    I'm running the latest release version of Firefox with Silverlight 3 installed and it seems to be loading fine. I did, however, get that message with Chrome (I'm not too surprised, Silverlight 2 kinda worked and kinda didn't when Chrome released and it took them a while to get it going.. I'm not sure if it was ever as seamless as it was on IE or Firefox).

    Make sure Silverlight and Firefox are both up-to-date. I haven't gotten into the video lectures yet but I must say, they're making improvements on their video player designs and the overall site feels responsive and sharp.

    Could it have been done in Flash? I'm sure it could. Then again, it could probably have been done in HTML 5 too...

  33. the virtual machine is your friend by ei4anb · · Score: 1

    It installs and plays on XP in a virtual machine. That's very apt if you think about since Feynman did so much to help our understanding of virtual particles :-)

    1. Re:the virtual machine is your friend by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > It installs and plays on XP in a virtual machine.

      Only if one has a copy of XP.

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  34. Beginning of gOS FUD by copponex · · Score: 1

    He's just laying the groundwork for their coming marketing campaign, centered around "trust" and "stability" messages to soothe the Windows 7 buying soul. It will probably work on the older baby boomers, but everyone else will yawn and go back to tooling around on Facebook and watching Hulu, on whatever operating system they like.

    If Google creates a framework where you can locally host Google Apps that automatically sync with low horsepower terminals connected to the local network, Microsoft will be in a world of hurt. Once all you need is a browser to connect to a majority of the company resources, the support staff costs will fall by 50%. Buy a pallet of Core 2 machines, spend some decent money up front on the server, and keep some fresh spare machines to switch out for hardware failure. That setup could last for a decade.

    1. Re:Beginning of gOS FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken like a true Google lap dog. Google hasn't even shown a working demo and yet people like you get in line to suck google-cock.

      Bravo !

  35. Fenyman Lectures at the University of Auckland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    These are very interesting: http://vega.org.uk/video/subseries/8

    They're what I thought this slashdot article was about when I read the headline.

  36. Education begins where vocational focus ends. by MrCrassic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that it's great that Gates made Feynman's lectures available for free online. Now, I don't know a lot about physics, but I do know that his lectures were some of the best sources out there to learn it. In addition, there are several outlets available for people to expand their knowledge base, with MIT OpenCourseWare being one of the more popular ones. Heck, people could even use YouTube to gain a better understanding of any one topic. It could even be argued that a source like YouTube is better, since the educational videos I've seen were explained in very simple terms (which are always the best terms).

    That all goes to show that the sources are there, and are very easy to access. You don't even need an account to access nearly the same material as MIT students do! However, Gates was absolutely right in that motivation is a really strong factor in wanting to find that stuff. I think that a source of that waning motivation comes from the desire to find a job, especially "in this economy."

    So many people see school solely as a "means to an end," and many schools set themselves up to be precisely this. When one's goal is simply to graduate, there's "no time" to bother with learning the extra stuff; it's all about the grade in that paradigm.

    I don't want to make this longer than it already is, but what I think would be awesome is to let students "create a major" at the college level. Some schools, like RPI and RIT, already practice this, but it should be practiced much more heavily, especially in the sciences and engineering. As a finishing Computer Engineering student, I'll be the first to say that it kind of sucks that I have to take a ton of classes that will have no practical OR educational use for me, just so that I can graduate under the guidelines of a program. However, that rant is for another time.

    1. Re:Education begins where vocational focus ends. by Punchinello · · Score: 1

      The idea of creating your own college major reminds me of puzzle master Will Shortz. He spoke in an NPR interview about creating his own major at Indiana University. His major was enigmatology... the study of puzzles. And now he is the greatest puzzle master of all time. It takes a special mind and tremendous passion for something to pull this off. When I was 18 the best I could have come up with was majoring in skirt chasing or beer bong engineering.

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    2. Re:Education begins where vocational focus ends. by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      So many people see school solely as a "means to an end," and many schools set themselves up to be precisely this. When one's goal is simply to graduate, there's "no time" to bother with learning the extra stuff; it's all about the grade in that paradigm.

      Wait, what? I know for some subjects it's possible to game the system and score well for a minimum of learning. If tests and assignments are well designed, you need to learn a lot of extra stuff. At least that was true at my uni.

      I don't want to make this longer than it already is, but what I think would be awesome is to let students "create a major" at the college level.

      Depending where you study this is a possibility. My university had BEng and BSc degrees in Computing. The BEng ones had 90% of the subjects set for you like you describe. The Computer Science degree had maybe 20% of the courses set and these were mostly introductory 1st and 2nd year subjects in math and computing. The only other requirement was that a certain % of your electives had to be computing subjects. If I'd wanted to narrow down to a "major" I could have. Instead, I decided to go for a wide range of computing and arts subjects, everything from graphics to AI to databases on the computing side and German and philosophy for the arts electives.

  37. It's on YouTube by Latinhypercube · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here :- 1964 Messenger Lecture 1 Character of Physical Law 1 of 7 I have been loving discovering Feynman. As much as he reveals and explains interesting physics, he also maps the limits of our current understanding. Questions like, how does gravity and matter work, why does light refract, simple aspects of physics that we still don't understand.

  38. Re:Chrome is already a failure because it will be by bberens · · Score: 1

    Apache is win. Netflix confirms it!

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  39. Feynman + Gates + Silverlight by rhizome · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A leopard can't change its spots?

    Bill Gates has a monopoly on these lectures, and he leverages that monopoly for the benefit of Silverlight. Always a self-serving monopolist, I guess.

    One wonders if the rest of the world has to sign a EULA to get access to his malaria treatments.

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  40. My fanboi response by Slur · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Things are only funny to me when they're true, and sadly that video props up way too many fallacies, leaving the savvy viewer merely feeling that the ignorance of the average user is being abused.

    Fact is, unless you've got bad RAM or other hardware issues, Mac OS X "never" crashes. (I was going to say "rarely" or "hardly ever" but frankly it's much closer to never.) And don't even get me started on the endless virus labyrinth Windows represents.

    As a graphic designer and a programmer of Mac, iPhone, and web applications, I want a UNIX-like platform where I can stage my websites and use a real shell with the full compliment of GNU software, a decent JVM, and a full and optimized OpenGL implementation. Only the Mac provides the complete solution for me. And when I do want to test a website on IE6/7 or build my SDL binary for Windows I can just start up VMWare with Windows XP.

    Any web developer worth his salt ought to have strong experience with the UNIX shell, shell scripting, and Apache configuration. Developers with broader interests should have Photoshop, Illustrator, and Flash at their disposal. And every developer should have decent C/C++ skills. I wish Linux had all this, and perhaps soon it will have a comparable set of apps. But in 2009, Mac OS X with XCode provides an amazing set of tools that Windows and Linux simply can't match - certainly not at any comparable price.

    So, enough with bashing the Mac with outmoded and fallacious arguments. Especially when the guy doing the bashing is just a dunderhead without any recent multi-platform development experience.

    Rant ended, huzzah!

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    1. Re:My fanboi response by toadlife · · Score: 1

      The video was made in 2001 and referring to OS9.

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    2. Re:My fanboi response by vux984 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Things are only funny to me when they're true, and sadly that video props up way too many fallacies, leaving the savvy viewer merely feeling that the ignorance of the average user is being abused.

      Meh. I disagree. I've experienced all of that crap first hand. OSX has gotten better since then (you'll notice that the video used a crt imac, and a plastic g4 (g5)? tower.

      And yeah, I've experienced the whole app window just closes and is gone with no error message crash.

      I've experienced the stupid finder locking up when you put in a CD on SEVERAL macs (including new ones). Windows does it too on bad disks sometimes, but OSX does it more, and worse -- because on a PC you can generally eject the bad disk and the OS comes right back to life... on a mac, you pretty much need to mount the CD to be able to eject it... so if its locked up mounting the thing, you can't easily eject it, short of grabbing a paperclip...or rebooting with the space bar, neither of which is convenient.

      And the undeleting thing? Yep, I've been there too, as have a lot of savvy 'switchers' (remember this was made during the switcher campaign), and it underscores the issue that a lot of windows users who switched face ... they found that they had to pay for a lot of utility type apps that they were used to getting for free on Windows.

      The crack about the apple menu actually is in my opinion one of the biggest flaws in the OSX window manager. When you've got 2 24"+ screens, having to mouse over to the top of one screen to access a menu is demented.

      The crack about Software Update hopping up and down like a terrier hits the mark too in my opinion. You can't just ignore it they way you can ignore "windows updates are ready" or the way the various linux distros notify you.

      And my father's mac laptop wouldn't empty the trash recently for no apparent reason... everytime you tried finder restarted. I went through the forums, I went through Apple support, I'm a cross platform admin - comfortable with Windows, Linux, and OSX. I tried all the simple stuff, then the simple command line stuff, then the arcane command line stuff, then reinstalling OSX over top of the existing install, and finally I just threw in the towel and reinstalled OSX from scratch -- I've had lots of mac frustrations.

      Oddly, he never touched on the rainbow pinwheel of death, which I've seen FAR TOO MUCH of, accessing network shares, external media and peripherals.

      So, while I actually use and like OSX, and agree with your post. Macs have got plenty of its own little quirks that can drive you mad, and I really don't think much of that video was 'fallacious myths'. I have personally seen it all, and more.

    3. Re:My fanboi response by vux984 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The video was made in 2001 and referring to OS9.

      It was referring to OSX, which was released in spring 2001.

      He mentions the 'mighty blue apple' in the top menu (OS9 still had the 'rainbow apple').
      He also specifically mentions the dock and bouncing icons, which was OSX as well.

    4. Re:My fanboi response by COMON$ · · Score: 3, Informative
      Fact is, unless you've got bad RAM or other hardware issues, Mac OS X "never" crashes.

      Let me fix this for you.

      Fact is, unless you've got bad RAM or other hardware issues, Windows "never" crashes.

      Fact is, unless you've got bad RAM or other hardware issues, Linux "never" crashes.

      Fact is, unless you've got bad RAM or other hardware issues, Unix "never" crashes.

      Fact is, unless you've got bad RAM or other hardware issues, Solaris "never" crashes.

      There...much better.

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    5. Re:My fanboi response by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      I doubt you really only find things funny if they are true.

      Anyway, you mix fair assertions with deeply flawed ones for most of that, but it's the last paragraph that gets me:

      "So, enough with bashing the Mac with outmoded and fallacious arguments. Especially when the guy doing the bashing is just a dunderhead without any recent multi-platform development experience."

      Dude, that video is from 2001. He's not a dunderhead but of course his 2001 self doesn't have recent multi-platform development experience.

    6. Re:My fanboi response by sufijazz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Any web developer worth his salt ought to have strong experience with the UNIX shell, shell scripting, and Apache configuration. Developers with broader interests should have Photoshop, Illustrator, and Flash at their disposal. And every developer should have decent C/C++ skills.

      And he should be able to dance, cook, be good in bed, know how to sail a boat, be good with kids and impress my parents.

      WTF?? I could climb Mt. Everest but not your ego.

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    7. Re:My fanboi response by toadlife · · Score: 2, Informative

      My mistake. Cressal did say that the file renaming issue happened OS9, and he repeatedly stated how much he hated OS9, so I assumed the whole rant was based on experienced with OS9.

      OS X must have been a steaming pile of shit back in 2001.

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    8. Re:My fanboi response by xouumalperxe · · Score: 1

      Well, 10.0 and 10.5 are entirely different beasts

    9. Re:My fanboi response by alanmusician · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget the whole reason that we can undelete from FAT and NTFS disks is because of inefficient design. He treats this as though it's a feature of Windows, but it was actually an accident that you could undelete at all. This is the whole reason that the Mac has a trash can and now Time Machine. When you permanently delete something, it should be gone, not hanging around on the disk unbeknownst to your average user.

    10. Re:My fanboi response by tholomyes · · Score: 1

      Man, 10.0 and 10.1 were entirely different beasts. 10.1 was a mighty leap forward.

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    11. Re:My fanboi response by TheCouchPotatoFamine · · Score: 1

      it's not demented - it's fitts law. if flicking your mouse to the top of the screen takes too long, perhaps you shouldn't be displaying your output on an imax screen. On the avergage (hello, laptops!) moving to the top of the screen is *way* faster then putting a menu on each screen and fundamentally better /waves hands and chants, screaming off into the woods //HIG HEIL!

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    12. Re:My fanboi response by doshell · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget the whole reason that we can undelete from FAT and NTFS disks is because of inefficient design. [...] When you permanently delete something, it should be gone, not hanging around on the disk unbeknownst to your average user.

      Actually, it is the other way around. It is more efficient to leave the old file contents intact, because that way the system doesn't have to spend time (and I/O resources) zeroing out disk blocks.

      There might be concerns about leaving the old file around, but efficiency is not one of them.

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    13. Re:My fanboi response by jamesswift · · Score: 1

      The crack about the apple menu actually is in my opinion one of the biggest flaws in the OSX window manager. When you've got 2 24"+ screens, having to mouse over to the top of one screen to access a menu is demented.

      Yes!

      Keyboard menu navigation is a help but a bit of a pain compared to Windows. Control+fn+F2 to get to the menus, if they work at all.

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    14. Re:My fanboi response by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 1

      I don't think it was reaching the top of the screen that was the problem, rather the fact that if you're working in an application on your second monitor, to access its menus you have to move the mouse over to the other monitor. It really is retarded.

      Obviously that's our graphics designer's fault for being uncommon enough to use two monitors. Hahaha. Priceless.

    15. Re:My fanboi response by cheesybagel · · Score: 1
      The first time I saw a MacOS 8 computer at a computer fair I crashed it in 3 minutes. The first time I saw a MacOS X computer at a computer fair I crashed it in 4 minutes.

      MacOS classic was a POS and I guess the first versions of MacOS X were probably bugged. This guy did video editing, so I wouldn't be surprised if he got ocasional lockups.

    16. Re:My fanboi response by alanmusician · · Score: 1

      The inefficiency to which I am referring is file system design that causes regular fragmentation. Undelete works very inconsistently on well-designed file systems such as HFS because data gets overwritten regularly.

      I probably should have said the only reason we can use undelete relatively reliably is inefficient design.

      My point is that undeletion is an accidental "feature" of Windows and should not be considered the expected behavior of a file system. Both the Trash Can and Time Machine are explicit implementations of file recovery.

    17. Re:My fanboi response by vux984 · · Score: 1

      OS X must have been a steaming pile of shit back in 2001.

      Comparable to XP Service Pack 0 really.

      And then burdened with the fact that everyone still needed tons of applications that only ran in Classic, which meant the OSX experience for the first couple years was, for a lot of people... boot up osx, launch classic, and use a bunch of OS9 apps.

      But still OSX by itself, wasn't all roses either. Steve Jobs likes to brag that every release of OSX has gotten faster on the same hardware, while every version of Windows has gotten slower on the same hardware. What this really should tell you is just how slow OSX10.0 was.

      And other issues like inserting a bad CD locking up the whole system so that you need a paperclip or a hard reboot linger on to this day.

    18. Re:My fanboi response by vux984 · · Score: 1

      On the avergage (hello, laptops!) moving to the top of the screen is *way* faster then putting a menu on each screen and fundamentally better /waves hands and chants, screaming off into the woods //HIG HEIL!

      So make that the default on laptops. But make it a choice. Because more than half the time I have my laptop plugged into a 24" screen.

      Which sets me off about another Apple issue: non-standard video adaptors on laptops. I want the laptop to "just work" (isn't that an apple slogan?) when I get somewhere. I don't want to have to drag around a bunch of dongles... mini-DVI to DVI, miniDVI-to VGA, miniDisplayPort to DVI... and they overcharge for them, big time. Bestbuy wanted $75CAD for a miniDVI-DVI adaptor the other day. Ridiculous. I walked out. I'll get a knockoff online...

      And speaking of display port, my HP LP2475w monitor supports displayport. My new macbook pro supports displayport (well mini displayport). Is there any particular reason apple doesn't make a mini-displayport to displayport adapter. Morons.

      But I'm ranting... I'll stop now.

  41. Re:Not installing silverlight by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

    I thought silverlight was supposed to be microsoft's answer to flash but I guess it will never be more than a curiosity/minor annoyance if they can't even be bothered to support firefox

    It's working fine for me in Firefox on my Mac.

  42. Why did Bill Gates have to pay to buy the rights? by Question+Mark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So let me get this straight: an employee of a public institution (Cal Tech) gave some speeches that were recorded by a government-funded entity (the BBC), and in order to release those recordings to the public, a private individual (Bill Gates) had to purchase the rights? And rather than release in them in a standards-based format, we instead have to to download and install proprietary software (Silverlight) that we may not want on our computers?

  43. Patenting fart free cows by shuz · · Score: 1

    Chances are this was a joke, however if it wasn't there has been many studies related to the topic. One interesting note is that "cow farts" or bovine flatulence constitutes only 1/6th of greenhouse gasses and that cow burping constitutes 5/6th. So while I can applaud Mr. Gates for patenting bovine Beano(TM), it would be wiser for him to focus on the gas causing sugars in the feed or the bacteria that create the gasses inside the stomach. Some info http://http//www.fart-sounds.net/educated_fart_analysis.htm/

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  44. Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so. fuckin. what.

    and you are less about distributing sperm and more about perpetuating successful genes

  45. Here's Your Answer by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...how did you come up with all this conclusions?

    I was merely repeating the details from last week when this was announced on Google's blog. I've never known them to lie about what they discuss on that blog so I take it on good faith that they plan on releasing a new GUI ontop of Linux with all of it being open source. They also put up a FAQ about it. The fact that they are planning to release it for ARM also indicates it will be aimed at netbooks. They flat out say that Android was never supposed to be for netbooks.

    Because from what I imagine to be most likely, you know close to nothing about Bill Gates's thoughts, Microsoft internals, Google internals, etc. So I can only guess you have no idea what you are talking about and in typical pundit fashion, pull things out of your ass, that support your p.o.v.

    No one but Bill Gates knows what Bill Gates is thinking. No one but employees of Microsoft know their internals. No one but employees of Google know their internals. So judging by your assumptions, no one could possibly fill those conditions to make a statement about Chrome OS or say what a business man must be thinking. Thanks for calling me a "typical pundit." I thought my statements were well informed and informed readers. Nice to know that I "have no idea what I am talking about" and am "pulling things out of my ass." I note that you provided no specific details of anything nor do you provide anything worth reading about the discussion at hand. If these are guesses, prove me wrong with facts.

    I really hope I am totally wrong with my guesses,

    You also save yourself from being a complete troll by offering me this trivial gem of "hope." How this was moderated insightful is beyond me.

    and that you have some special insight. But if, then why did you not base your arguments on it by stating it? So correct me if I'm wrong, and I will thank you for having learned something.

    But if I am right, please just shut up. :)

    Please, Hurricane78, do me a favor--go here and mark me as a Foe. Then go here and find the section called "People Modifier" and set Foes to be -6 so you never have to read my uninformed guesses. Really, it would be a huge favor to me not to have to read your responses to my comments.

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    1. Re:Here's Your Answer by Red+Flayer · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You also save yourself from being a complete troll by offering me this trivial gem of "hope." How this was moderated insightful is beyond me.

      It shouldn't be. Your MO is very obvious... you're what's known as a "google expert". You RTFS/A a little early since you're a subscriber, then google for some related scraps, then put together a post.

      Lots of people have done this. We call them karma whores.

      Sure, we all talk out of our ass sometimes ($DEITY knows I'm occasionally as guilty of it as anyone else). But you seem to make a habit of it... and so he called you out on it, and obviously one or more moderators agreed with him.

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      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    2. Re:Here's Your Answer by Threni · · Score: 1

      > ($DEITY knows I'm occasionally as guilty of it as anyone else

      COALESCE ($DEITY,'THERE IS NOTHING')

  46. Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you think he would have picked a subject/person with wider appeal if that were entirely the case?

  47. Localization by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    The problem with that is it would have to learn to recognize different gestures. For example in the UK we use two fingers a gesture dating back to Agincourt when the French would cut off those same two fingers of any English they captured so that they could not draw a longbow.

  48. Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight? by Joce640k · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...because of all the possible video formats out there, he just happens to choose Silverlight? How convenient.

     

    Summing up: I don't want yet another passing Microsoft fad installed on my machine which will add more vulnerabilities and be downloading weekly "reboot required" updates for the next ten years.

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    1. Re:Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight? by Beelzebud · · Score: 1

      I've never had to reboot my machine because of silverlight. Can you at least focus criticism on problems that actually exist? It's no more obtrusive than installing flash on your machine to watch youtube videos.

    2. Re:Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funny to read this from a ubuntu machine that I've just had to reboot after a kernel update.

  49. Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And if Google decided to release the lectures don't you think they would do it on youtube or google video? Is that such a stretch. Bill Gates is affiliated with Microsoft and as such will continue to prop up and support microsoft technologies.

  50. Torrents? Downloads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Torrents?

    Silverlight/Tuva cannot buffer like youtube (read: download in background), videos are next to useless for me. Stutters after ~3 sec... 3sec... Very annoying.

  51. Re:Why did Bill Gates have to pay to buy the right by dlakelan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Caltech (not Cal Tech) is a private university, though it receives significant public funding like any research university. However, I don't believe the development of these lectures was publicly funded.

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  52. Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by religious+freak · · Score: 1

    Who really gives a shit? Seriously. So what do I care; I'll install it, then after I'm done watching the lectures I'll keep it or I won't. Someone has a great sig - nerd rage truly is the funniest of rages. And Bill Gates rage is at the top of the mountain.

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  53. This site needs Silverlight by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

    I don't care that it's MS Research. The irritating part is that my "browser is not compatible" because I don't use silverlight.

    What browser do you use?

    Also, if you look at the design of the video experience, it really couldn't be done without Silverlight. This isn't just a simple video player, but with integrated captions, commentary, graphical links, and delivered via Smooth Streaming.

    It's really a media player app using Silverlight as the runtime; there's certainly many thousands lines of source for the managed code driving that experience.

  54. Feynman roolzorz by Benfea · · Score: 1

    I may actually install Silverlight for this. Feynman was the shit.

  55. Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next stop, convincing Adobe to stop releasing all their documents in that damn pdf format!

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  56. ALREADY ONLINE FOR FREE by Cowmonaut · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://vega.org.uk/video/subseries/8 Requires QuickTime or RealPlayer I think, I don't remember which. But they're already online for free.

    1. Re:ALREADY ONLINE FOR FREE by hairykrishna · · Score: 1

      Those are different lectures.

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      "Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation." -R. Feynman
  57. License of the videos? Is free really free... by ciantic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reading about the interview of Bill Gates, made me wonder, does he truly truly want the videos to be free and available to everybody?

    What are the licenses of the videos?

    I suspect I couldn't copy them elsewhere, for free. According to article, "Gates said that he hoped his action would serve as a model for taking great educational content and making it broadly available for free." [emphasis mine] yes, broadly available, but locked to single distributor. This does limit the free a lot! I wonder was this the intention of then relatively naive 30-year-old Bill Gates too, I suspect not. Article gave me impression that Gates truly (once) wanted them to be free.

    I'm having hard time with Tuva myself, mainly because I cannot watch them by streaming without interruptions. And I couldn't pick them with me and show them to someone not connected to Tuva.

    If the purpose of this stunt is to share the knowledge, then please, make them available as download also.

    1. Re:License of the videos? Is free really free... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I'm having hard time with Tuva myself, mainly because I cannot watch them by streaming without interruptions. And I couldn't pick them with me and show them to someone not connected to Tuva.

      All that throat singing is really distracting too.

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  58. Please put a torrent up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have watched it? Why haven't you uploaded a torrent somewhere? Please, I beg you...

  59. gestures? by TheJodster · · Score: 1

    talks about the possibility of Project Natal bringing gesture recognition to Windows

    I know what my first gesture for my windows installation will be...

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  60. Re:Why did Bill Gates have to pay to buy the right by AlexBirch · · Score: 1

    And rather than release in them in a standards-based format, we instead have to to download and install proprietary software (Silverlight) that we may not want on our computers?

    Silverlight (WMV) is in a standards based format, you can check it out in Mono.
    Flash too is proprietary software. If I were Adobe, I would make a 20 dollar version of Photoshop for Linux. Or even team up with Ubuntu to have Adobumtu, that has heavily discounted Adobe software.

  61. Smooth Streaming, not WMV by benwaggoner · · Score: 1

    Silverlight (WMV) is in a standards based format, you can check it out in Mono.

    These are actually Smooth Streaming files.

    http://www.iis.net/extensions/SmoothStreaming

    FWIW, Silverlight 3 supports WMV, MPEG-4 (with H.264), Smooth Streaming, and supports managed code decoders and parsers to add additional formats.

  62. Bad publicity by Fzz · · Score: 1
    OK, so I installed the Silverlight plugin for MacOS, just to see. Oh dear. My two-year old Mac Mini which can play DVDs, H.264, iPlayer, or Flash video, full screen, no problem, cannot play these videos without stuttering. 3 seconds of video, 200ms pause, 3 seconds of video, 200ms pause. Unwatchable. I'd have advised people against Silverlight anyway, but issues to do with licensing don't work well with many people. Now I can say with certainty to my less enlightened friends and colleagues: avoid it - it doesn't work well enough for production use.

    Guess I'll have to watch the YouTube versions now.

  63. Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't it possible that Bill Gates' funds might be entangled with Microsoft and thus he could only release it in a way that also benefits Microsoft due to the various court decisions that require a company to always act in the interests of its shareholders?

  64. I'll simply say by Vadim+Makarov · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bill Gates, thank you!

    I will watch them all.

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  65. Gah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right, I know this isn't a tech support forum, but.......... I'm on Ubuntu, I have Moonlight installed, I have my User Agent set to IE7, how do I get the f***cking site to recognise I can play the videos. It seems other on here have got it to work. How?

  66. This ranting is getting out of hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it rather disconcerting that /. has become some form of opinion ranting site, rather than a news aggregation site. I'm no fan of any company, be they Windows, Google, Apple, etc., but this whole MS bashing thing is getting ridiculous. I find it pretty funny that on the same day Apple patches their iTunes store to lock out Palm Pre's, not a whisper about it on /., and yet just because MS decides to use their Silverlight to show some videos suddenly "MS are retard, facepalm, evil har har har" comments go up all over the place. I know /. is geared towards amateur programmers/technologists, but there comes a point when you mods have to be more strict about all the ranting that goes on. The actual news and valid opinions seem to get lost in the sea of "_EnterCompanyName_ is teh evil i haet them!" posts.

    1. Re:This ranting is getting out of hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is mostly filled with lonely 2nd rate sysadmins with free time. You wont find good 'thinkers' here. They're just ranting because their own life sucks and just want something to bitch about. So far its been Microsoft. Once Microsoft goes it will be something else.

    2. Re:This ranting is getting out of hand... by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      You must be new here.

      Bigoted opinionated ranting has been the life-blood for Slashdot for as long as I can remember.

      It's often what draws people back here, the chance to get righteously worked up about issues non-geeks don't grok.

      The biggest change I've seen over the years is a slight increase in pro-Apple sentiment overall, from the total disdain it attracted when I first started hanging out here. BTW there is an article about the Palm Pre an diTunes, but it was probably posted after your little textual pout.

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  67. The player by mozzis · · Score: 1

    ...is a really nice way to watch these. Subtitles, links to related materials, a timeline, links to places in the timeline - silverlight really shines in this presentation.

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  68. Also highly recommended by laing · · Score: 1
    20 years or so ago Nova did an episode called "Last journey of a genius". That show describes where the "tuva" reference in the microsoft URL comes from. Feynman had planned a trip there but succumbed to cancer before he made it.

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  69. Project Tuva Explained by laing · · Score: 1

    See my previous post here.

  70. Brilliant by Miamicoastguard · · Score: 1

    To anyone complaining that this doesn't load/problems EBCAK.
    This couldn't have come at a better time. I have read alot of his books and having this available is like icing on the cake. Also @ MrCrassic if you don't have the time to dismiss capitalism for education you are a very sad case. The only reason I took my degree is that it covered the subjects I am passionate about (Physics, Maths, Computer Science, Astronomy) I will make a descision about what job I would like when the time comes, as for now at the speed in which I learn new things and the vastness of occupations and professions unfold rapidly, it is impossible for me to say I want to be x when in 2 months time x may seem an unchallenging and tedious occupation. I study for overkill in all my papers to gain an understanding of the subject rather than a piece of paper needed to bullshit my way into pleasing other people.

  71. Interesting by Carra · · Score: 1

    I just installed Silverlight and watched the first lecture. Very interesting and I had a couple of laughs. The quality of the movies is pretty good too. And best of all, it's free. I'll enjoy the rest of the lectures and let all the linux fanboys dish Silverlight in this thread.

  72. Re:Why did Bill Gates have to pay to buy the right by Kimen · · Score: 1

    I have software on my computer already that will play WMV, H.264, and a host of other standard formats. So many people confuse a standard file delivery format with software. I do NOT want Silverlight on my computer.

  73. Re:Not installing silverlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first three have been on youtube for a couple months. The others will be up soon I expect. Search for "1964 Messenger lecture".

  74. of no interest to today's student by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got my phD 20 years ago, and find these interesting. I'm a big fan of feynman.

    but if you're learning the subject today and watching these, stop now and get a textbook and a good teacher. they really aren't very good lectures. in fact, they are a terrible waste of your time.

  75. Silverlight Trojan Horse by curmudgeon99 · · Score: 1

    Bill! Nice try, man. Like we didn't see that coming. In order to see the great man's lectures I have to install--WTF? Silverlight? What's that? Some .NET crap that's going to clog up my machine with a bunch of vampire processes? Not on your life. Bill--take it from moi--if you want to do a good deed, drop those vids of Feynman on Google Video.

  76. Great... by __aapspi39 · · Score: 1

    So a video that requires a new plugin. Err..no thanks.

    And cheers for the glimpse of the future with Natal, but i already saw Peter Molyneux showing off his, ahem, "demo" of Milo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIbGnBQcJY

    "True technology... [that] works today." In almost every respect it's a blatant sham. I've seen far more credible performances from the likes of Uri Geller. Say sorry Peter, like you mean it!

    In one way its nice to see that Peter is settling in nicely to the Microsoft marketing team.

    1. Re:Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you whine about a video that requires a new plugin and then tell people to go to YouTube which is, erm, full of videos that require a plugin to view? Hypocrit much?

      Regarding Natal it's clear you just don't know much about modern technology in general. There's little in that demo that couldn't be real, well unless you're stupid enough to assume they're suggesting they've invented strong AI and that it's not just a set of scripted responses to Natal's input but you'd have to be an idiot to make that assumption. It's not like the graphics or scripted responses are ground breaking, it's not like the input couldn't do exactly what is demoed. I'm not sure what bit of that anyone would think is so incredible that it's not possible, it's all fairly simple technology stuck together to produce a pretty cool demo.

      I guess you just hate Microsoft for the sake of hating Microsoft like all too many people here, because both your arguments are blatantly idiotic. Hating for the sake of hating just makes the anti-Microsoft community look like a bunch of idiots. At least hate them when there's reason to so the cause has some semblance of sanity too it.

  77. Silverlight by grimborg · · Score: 0

    Yeah, using silverlight, so watching them in GNU/Linux is both difficult... and impossible. They can shove the lectures up their asses and i goddamn well hope it explodes and they're left with their balls hanging from the bell towers.

  78. Use Vega Science Trust site, avoid silverlight by walterbyrd · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can get the lectures here:

    http://vega.org.uk/video/subseries/8

    And avoid the silverlight embrace, extend, extinguish, scam.

  79. The Real Bill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find Bill Gate's donation of videos, that require a Microsoft product to see, a very disingenuous "gift" - it should really be touted as advertising which is what they are probably writing it off as anyway.

    I also find Bill's comments rather illiterate. Did he actually comment in that manner?

    Dishonest and illiterate, is that the brains behind Microsoft?

  80. A technical discussion of Project Tuva by endquotedotcom · · Score: 1
    I'm the principal developer on Project Tuva, and I've posted a bit on my blog about the technical details of the project, in case anyone's interested: http://blog.endquote.com/post/144450114/project-tuva-post-mortem

    Regarding all of the Silverlight criticism -- yes, the videos could have just been posted in ogg vorbis or something to make everyone happy, but the Silverlight app adds many additional features in support of learning. Think of it as the bonus content on the DVD release. It's actually pretty cool. Silverlight isn't evil, and as someone who's very familiar with both Flash and Silverlight, I can tell you that badly-behaved Flash apps are more likely to make your system unstable than Silverlight apps will.

  81. Re:Not installing silverlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it does support Firefox. It works fine on 3.0.10.

  82. No, It's Called Experience by curmudgeon99 · · Score: 1

    Remember RealAudio? In the late 90's they owned internet audio? But then when you installed their player it took total control of your machine and basically was just a bad application? Well, they're gone now, basically. Microsoft is a similar case. They screwed with people so much that a bunch of competitors appeared. I used to code on MS platforms but I stopped and switched to Java a long time ago. The reason people beat up on Microsoft is because Microsoft--the company--is a bastard. So, in this age, don't ever be evil or you will be remembered forever for it. That's what's happening here. You're blaming the messengers.