>Web designer should stop trying to think for the users
Ok note:
As a web designer - it is actually our business to think for the general public so that they dont screw things up, and to give them the most enjoyable experience they can - with as little effort to them.
True for the most part, I too would like to choose for myself, well not everyone thinks like that, face it there are the sheep and there are the shepherds... which one you are is up to you.
There are also so many other marketing uses for this information.. dont get me wrong- I like anonymoty(sp) however this info is great for planning for resolutions, speeds, colordepths, and countless other tidbits for the majority of your users.
And untill the majority of the population are thinking for themselves, this is the way we have to do this. If you don't like it do somthing about it.
The information that is being sent to the web servers is not really the issue here... what should be more focused on is the data going back to Earthlink.
paying or not its still the fact that who wants to have to worry about being connected so you can make sure you indeed did purchase your game.
its a load of crap if you ask me.
One simple fact: This 'plan' can only hurt Sony.
I see no way that this would help. I've seen overly protected software in the past that has just flat out flopped, if for no other reason, because it just doesnt get distributed to the people who really play it.
On a side note, this 'plan' sounds like nothing more than a hoax - I have found no reports from Sony on it, and as I stated before this would only hurt them if they were to actually use it.
Sony is not stupid, however if they follow through with this my opinion shall be forced to change.
I guess that '=p' in my comment was missed by your/god-like/ eyes, sorry if i offended the great iis masters.
I meant that as an exageration on an otherwise shortcoming of uptimes for Microsoft box's.
'Me thinks thou protesteth too loudly'
-Shakespeare
By the way things are moving these days, it looks as if more and more of the open-source movement is coming into play.
Where I wouldn't say that it is coming in 'Rambo Style' it is, however, slowy grabbing hold of more portions of the public.
For exampl MacOS-X is using a base linux kernel, and even hardware companies are moving more toward linux-freindly alternatives to there products, which in turn offers better comunity support.
So in all, it will be interesting to see this 'vapor-ware' team up with some 'vapor-hardware' and some 'vapor-ideas' which really aren't all that vapory to begin with.;)
You seem to be mis-informed... *smirk*
Apache (bless its heart) is a web server,
Windows is an OS. Now lets move on...
Apache can be run on Windows or Linux, however the latter is prefered.
The more books the better. If it's one thing I can say is there are never enough manuals to quench my readings.
I could give 2 $*!ts about most novels but when it comes to manuals I'm a happy camper.
My girlfriend gives me these weird looks when I break out my Camel book or my Linux 4th edition
manual.:)
'Position does not dictate action... If it did I would not have just told that guy to return his computer..'..and then go off on a 'StarWars' tangent;p
Seriously.. I know we're getting off on more of a rant about customers but hey.. gotta get it out somehow eh?
hah.
...but it's not the future yet. There is still quite a bit to be done to make wireless a feasable alternative to land lines.
So far the only REAL use I have seen is in a few corporate projects, our company has handled, where we have connected two private intranet/nodes/ together. Even then they were only around a mile apart.
And as I stated in a post in the the recent/. wireless article *yesterday i believe*, I'm betting on - that the wireless implimentation will only see a good market in private clusters of/gatewayed/ nodes. But the clusters will still [for the most part] need to have there gateway(s) connected by land lines weather it be fiber or your DSL line that your sharing out.
We (the online comunity) have come a long way, but we, or maybe the ones that fear and/or do not understand the internet, lack the/maturity/ to for us to procede on to the next level -- whatever that may be...
It's because they read the article below about tech support.
A company finally figured out its not worth the hassle and they are not making any money off of it.
Blah!
The cell phone thing is where a few of us are at work. I too feel the call of alcohol on the weekends so I just pray every time that a few t1's don't go down or someones DSL is 'slow'. Come on people no where does it say/guarenteed/ 640x640... does it? I know i've never seen that. And even if I had I would never admit to it. ;) haha
Lemme tell you guys somthing about tech support.
The writer of the article may have moved from general/tech support/ to/supervisor/, but because of the lack of decent equipment here in Florida, I have been moved from WebDesign and linux sysadmining to tech support. We just dont have the staffing for the ammount of calls we get because Sprint decides to go from a 12 port card to a 24 port card that has incompatability issues with other Lucent-Approved equipment. *sigh*
If that isn't enough than think about this, some of us get to... ahem get to take tech support calls at home too... It's a good thing we are salaried emplyees eh?
hey im sure there are a few rocks whirring about in that storm there, that would hurt. Christ im glad i live on a stable planet.
Well I wasn't referring to the people mind you.:)
More on-topic than other post ;p
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Just as a quick note for a tack onto my other post..
As a cyber-prophet(or whatever) I forsee that most of the Internet will be come similarly segregated nodes. joined together through a system of main-pipe gateways. and NAT-like address management.
I see this thread getting off topic.. so this should make you content in my reasoning.
OK, how many people are actually looking forward to the internet being split for a period of time and the complete flipflop of what you have been doing up to this point?.. c'mon.
You will lose connectivity with sections of the known internet and the on-line world as we know it now will be split.
Don't get me wrong the 'concept' of IPv6 is there,
we just need to find a better way for this to be done. I really don't see our near future in IPv6.
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>Web designer should stop trying to think for the users
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Ok note:
As a web designer - it is actually our business to think for the general public so that they dont screw things up, and to give them the most enjoyable experience they can - with as little effort to them.
True for the most part, I too would like to choose for myself, well not everyone thinks like that, face it there are the sheep and there are the shepherds... which one you are is up to you.
There are also so many other marketing uses for this information.. dont get me wrong- I like anonymoty(sp) however this info is great for planning for resolutions, speeds, colordepths, and countless other tidbits for the majority of your users.
And untill the majority of the population are thinking for themselves, this is the way we have to do this. If you don't like it do somthing about it.
The information that is being sent to the web servers is not really the issue here... what should be more focused on is the data going back to Earthlink.
my 2 cents.. ahh heck make it 5 cents..
paying or not its still the fact that who wants to have to worry about being connected so you can make sure you indeed did purchase your game.
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its a load of crap if you ask me.
One simple fact: This 'plan' can only hurt Sony.
.ph0x
I see no way that this would help. I've seen overly protected software in the past that has just flat out flopped, if for no other reason, because it just doesnt get distributed to the people who really play it.
On a side note, this 'plan' sounds like nothing more than a hoax - I have found no reports from Sony on it, and as I stated before this would only hurt them if they were to actually use it.
Sony is not stupid, however if they follow through with this my opinion shall be forced to change.
I saw richard talking to some of the members of the press.
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Here is how I believe things happened. ;)
... I'm goin ta jail -- Do not pass 'Go',
do not collect $200.00
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Uh oh
Where are my transformers,
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if anything gimme a transformer that can be palm controled.
Now that would be sweet!
Looks like thats what hollywood used when they jumped in on this one.
/mr. cliche-man/ today :)
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Too bad they forgot to look before the leaped eh?
Look at me
Sometimes ideas come to us whilst doing obscure things.
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Like say trying to get an OS on a smaller device for portability (PDA's).
I guess that '=p' in my comment was missed by your /god-like/ eyes, sorry if i offended the great iis masters.
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I meant that as an exageration on an otherwise shortcoming of uptimes for Microsoft box's.
'Me thinks thou protesteth too loudly'
-Shakespeare
By the way things are moving these days, it looks as if more and more of the open-source movement is coming into play. ;)
.ph0x
Where I wouldn't say that it is coming in 'Rambo Style' it is, however, slowy grabbing hold of more portions of the public.
For exampl MacOS-X is using a base linux kernel, and even hardware companies are moving more toward linux-freindly alternatives to there products, which in turn offers better comunity support.
So in all, it will be interesting to see this 'vapor-ware' team up with some 'vapor-hardware' and some 'vapor-ideas' which really aren't all that vapory to begin with.
;p
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shits and it's actually 2 of them.
You seem to be mis-informed...
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*smirk* Apache (bless its heart) is a web server, Windows is an OS. Now lets move on...
Apache can be run on Windows or Linux, however the latter is prefered.
yeah but you also have to reboot IIS ever couple days to keep it going =p. And really its not quite as configurable as Apache.
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The more books the better. If it's one thing I can say is there are never enough manuals to quench my readings. :)
.ph0x
I could give 2 $*!ts about most novels but when it comes to manuals I'm a happy camper.
My girlfriend gives me these weird looks when I break out my Camel book or my Linux 4th edition manual.
*kinda off topic dont neg my karma* ;)
i couldnt find your email address so,
drop me a line email me or hit my icq,
10473330
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So true that is my friend.
..and then go off on a 'StarWars' tangent ;p
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'Position does not dictate action... If it did I would not have just told that guy to return his computer..'
Seriously.. I know we're getting off on more of a rant about customers but hey.. gotta get it out somehow eh?
hah.
...but it's not the future yet. There is still quite a bit to be done to make wireless a feasable alternative to land lines. /nodes/ together. Even then they were only around a mile apart. /. wireless article *yesterday i believe*, I'm betting on - that the wireless implimentation will only see a good market in private clusters of /gatewayed/ nodes. But the clusters will still [for the most part] need to have there gateway(s) connected by land lines weather it be fiber or your DSL line that your sharing out. /maturity/ to for us to procede on to the next level -- whatever that may be...
.ph0x
So far the only REAL use I have seen is in a few corporate projects, our company has handled, where we have connected two private intranet
And as I stated in a post in the the recent
We (the online comunity) have come a long way, but we, or maybe the ones that fear and/or do not understand the internet, lack the
It's because they read the article below about tech support.
.ph0x
A company finally figured out its not worth the hassle and they are not making any money off of it.
Blah!
The cell phone thing is where a few of us are at work. I too feel the call of alcohol on the weekends so I just pray every time that a few t1's don't go down or someones DSL is 'slow'. Come on people no where does it say /guarenteed/ 640x640... does it? I know i've never seen that. And even if I had I would never admit to it.
;) haha
.ph0x
Lemme tell you guys somthing about tech support. The writer of the article may have moved from general /tech support/ to /supervisor/, but because of the lack of decent equipment here in Florida, I have been moved from WebDesign and linux sysadmining to tech support. We just dont have the staffing for the ammount of calls we get because Sprint decides to go from a 12 port card to a 24 port card that has incompatability issues with other Lucent-Approved equipment. *sigh*
.ph0x
If that isn't enough than think about this, some of us get to... ahem get to take tech support calls at home too... It's a good thing we are salaried emplyees eh?
who wants to go with me to get it ;)
.ph0x
hahaha
hey im sure there are a few rocks whirring about in that storm there, that would hurt. Christ im glad i live on a stable planet.
:)
Well I wasn't referring to the people mind you.
Just as a quick note for a tack onto my other post..
;)
.ph0x
As a cyber-prophet(or whatever) I forsee that most of the Internet will be come similarly segregated nodes. joined together through a system of main-pipe gateways. and NAT-like address management.
DECENTRALIZE!@%&^@%!&
I see this thread getting off topic.. so this should make you content in my reasoning.
.. c'mon.
.ph0x
OK, how many people are actually looking forward to the internet being split for a period of time and the complete flipflop of what you have been doing up to this point?
You will lose connectivity with sections of the known internet and the on-line world as we know it now will be split.
Don't get me wrong the 'concept' of IPv6 is there, we just need to find a better way for this to be done.
I really don't see our near future in IPv6.
Just my humble opinion.
Sorry but I would like to state on the record that DSL is not reliable at all. If you are running a business off of dsl... I'm sorry.
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