If it takes a mob to retake (not plead for) and protect our freedoms, then I stand tall with 'em, no apologies, no regrets. Unfortunately it's a bigger, irrational mob that it taking them away in its lust for power, a piece of the plunder. And it's desires are every bit as radical as any "terrorist" on the planet.
Trying to avoid the subject, are we? It's not name calling. It's the part you play, the role you have been given on the political stage. You only need a bit more subtlety to avoid getting caught.
I'm not sure you have noticed or not, but I find that those who support state sponsored thuggery are worth little more than ridicule, mostly due to their closed minded irrationality. You can't be rational in the face of authoritarian dogma.
I believe in it when life and limb are at risk, yes.
Are you familiar with the term "useful idiot"? See, to me, the only real danger you represent is that you can vote my rights away. Otherwise we could safely ignore you. As it is, we have to be forever vigilant against those who would have us chasing ghosts.
Just no arguing with an adolescent political fanboi.. You just call it as you're told. I see no critical thought from you at all. The only question is if you're really that innocent, or if you're actively trying to fool people.
...sound policy decisions free from the debasement of emotion...
Like the patriot act... Actually you're right. It was a cold calculated act that had been planned for years, but that a rational public would never allow. So let's make them irrational, and they'll accept anything we tell them.
Your entire ruse is pure politics. You obviously believe in strong authority over personal freedom. You couldn't be more political. And very superficial at that with your "left/right" bull pockey. Save it for the 1st graders.
This created poverty and despair, which in turn lead to extremism.
Yeah, the place was paradise before all that, right? Our hand picked dictators were such little angels. I'm not impressed with your astroturfing of propaganda. Though others are taking you seriously, which is unfortunate, I can't. You sound like some kind of "minister of truth" in the face of a public that is just starting to see through the lies and government power grab.
The not pausing for settling is definitely a valid concern.
Probably to be measured over time. I believe this is an experimental preliminary design. If that's correct, chances are it will be occupied by engineers.
Obviously it's propaganda piece, but it should light a fire under some butts to show real progress in building design, be less wasteful, require less human effort, etc. Prefab is as old as the hills with obvious advantages, this is just scaling, and speeding it up. The video proves how much faster reconstruction can take place after a disaster.
The value of a diploma shouldn't be measured by its scarcity, but by the knowledge acquired. The decline of that standard driven by a profit motive is the only issue I have with it.
Is concrete required in a steel framed building? And please, I hope you didn't expect the video to show every detail... The inspections could have been continuous throughout the process. For one thing, it's an early experiment. Improvements will be made. You seem to believe that their past history is a sure indicator of future progress. Stagnation is not universal. It's highly localized when considering the global scale. Right now some people are entering a dark period, and others are just coming out of one. Personally I don't care who does these things. I just like to see it get done.
If I plug in a liveCD or USB stick, and I don't want to reboot the machine, can't I just chroot to it and then run anything that's on there? X11 won't like it though, will it? I vaguely remember doing the reverse to run lilo once or twice.
My whole point in all of this has been about the convenience for your typical end user... However, I just realized I can just put an entire system on a stick nowadays and run it live. Problem solved?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, I don't know, but I see two distinct points of view. For the developer, shared libraries are far more convenient for efficiency's sake, but for the end user, they could care less. The convenience of portability outweighs those concerns.
The big problem with this is that he's dragging along a complete sandbox (Incl. X11 for X apps...) for each application.
Time to swap out that 80 meg hard drive:-) And bits don't actually weigh that much, so I don't mind schlepping them around with me. Being able to run my program directly off the USB stick sure is nice. But then, what the hell, I could just put a whole "live" system on it, so maybe portability really isn't an issue.
I'm not one of them, but it appears some people prefer to break everything by updating a single shared library. The thing is if your program requires a specific, not necessarily common shared library, it's not very portable. That's why this article is news. Portability should have always been easy. Common hardware drivers should be shared, yes, but that's as far as it should go. It helps to minimize those nasty little problems of missing or incompatible libraries. My aim is for ease of use for the end user, not really to make it easy for the developer, though that would be nice. Maybe that's where the problem is. Few people are thinking of the user.
You can call it what you want. Pontificating will score no points with me. I call it moving shit to a new machine. And if you ever find superior free software, especially one that copies over just as easily, please post.
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...I'm not saying things that devalue conversation...
The moment you started puking up that "left/right" bullshit, you reduced the value of the conversation to zero.
Ihre papiere, bitte..
If it takes a mob to retake (not plead for) and protect our freedoms, then I stand tall with 'em, no apologies, no regrets. Unfortunately it's a bigger, irrational mob that it taking them away in its lust for power, a piece of the plunder. And it's desires are every bit as radical as any "terrorist" on the planet.
Trying to avoid the subject, are we? It's not name calling. It's the part you play, the role you have been given on the political stage. You only need a bit more subtlety to avoid getting caught.
I'm not sure you have noticed or not, but I find that those who support state sponsored thuggery are worth little more than ridicule, mostly due to their closed minded irrationality. You can't be rational in the face of authoritarian dogma.
I believe in it when life and limb are at risk, yes.
Are you familiar with the term "useful idiot"? See, to me, the only real danger you represent is that you can vote my rights away. Otherwise we could safely ignore you. As it is, we have to be forever vigilant against those who would have us chasing ghosts.
Just no arguing with an adolescent political fanboi.. You just call it as you're told. I see no critical thought from you at all. The only question is if you're really that innocent, or if you're actively trying to fool people.
...sound policy decisions free from the debasement of emotion...
Like the patriot act... Actually you're right. It was a cold calculated act that had been planned for years, but that a rational public would never allow. So let's make them irrational, and they'll accept anything we tell them.
Your entire ruse is pure politics. You obviously believe in strong authority over personal freedom. You couldn't be more political. And very superficial at that with your "left/right" bull pockey. Save it for the 1st graders.
Ah, cool... Now we know where you're coming from. Liberal "permissiveness" is evil..
This created poverty and despair, which in turn lead to extremism.
Yeah, the place was paradise before all that, right? Our hand picked dictators were such little angels. I'm not impressed with your astroturfing of propaganda. Though others are taking you seriously, which is unfortunate, I can't. You sound like some kind of "minister of truth" in the face of a public that is just starting to see through the lies and government power grab.
The not pausing for settling is definitely a valid concern.
Probably to be measured over time. I believe this is an experimental preliminary design. If that's correct, chances are it will be occupied by engineers.
Obviously it's propaganda piece, but it should light a fire under some butts to show real progress in building design, be less wasteful, require less human effort, etc. Prefab is as old as the hills with obvious advantages, this is just scaling, and speeding it up. The video proves how much faster reconstruction can take place after a disaster.
The value of a diploma shouldn't be measured by its scarcity, but by the knowledge acquired. The decline of that standard driven by a profit motive is the only issue I have with it.
Not only that, one of the other measures of "productivity" was the amount of money spent. That's not what "productivity" means.
In a world financed by consumer debt, that's precisely what "productivity" means.
Is concrete required in a steel framed building? And please, I hope you didn't expect the video to show every detail... The inspections could have been continuous throughout the process. For one thing, it's an early experiment. Improvements will be made. You seem to believe that their past history is a sure indicator of future progress. Stagnation is not universal. It's highly localized when considering the global scale. Right now some people are entering a dark period, and others are just coming out of one. Personally I don't care who does these things. I just like to see it get done.
...and the quality has to be questionable at best.
Hmmmm... Is that a fact? I haven't seen it up close, so I wouldn't know...
Ever done this? How long would it take, do you think, it would take to rebuild a place like, say, oh, I don't know, New Orleans?
We here in the States have much more pressing issues at the moment... Science is for pagans and heathens
Machine code... Assembly is as high as I would go... Everything else is fluff
The internet will only be free when we make it free by technical means.
Yes, well, you can forget about it... until you cut the wire
for automated theater and restaurant critics.. The human responses will be priceless.
If I plug in a liveCD or USB stick, and I don't want to reboot the machine, can't I just chroot to it and then run anything that's on there? X11 won't like it though, will it? I vaguely remember doing the reverse to run lilo once or twice.
But portability is already easy.... a liveCD or USB stick is about as portable as you can get.
My whole point in all of this has been about the convenience for your typical end user... However, I just realized I can just put an entire system on a stick nowadays and run it live. Problem solved?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, I don't know, but I see two distinct points of view. For the developer, shared libraries are far more convenient for efficiency's sake, but for the end user, they could care less. The convenience of portability outweighs those concerns.
The big problem with this is that he's dragging along a complete sandbox (Incl. X11 for X apps...) for each application.
Time to swap out that 80 meg hard drive :-) And bits don't actually weigh that much, so I don't mind schlepping them around with me. Being able to run my program directly off the USB stick sure is nice. But then, what the hell, I could just put a whole "live" system on it, so maybe portability really isn't an issue.
I'm not one of them, but it appears some people prefer to break everything by updating a single shared library. The thing is if your program requires a specific, not necessarily common shared library, it's not very portable. That's why this article is news. Portability should have always been easy. Common hardware drivers should be shared, yes, but that's as far as it should go. It helps to minimize those nasty little problems of missing or incompatible libraries. My aim is for ease of use for the end user, not really to make it easy for the developer, though that would be nice. Maybe that's where the problem is. Few people are thinking of the user.
You can call it what you want. Pontificating will score no points with me. I call it moving shit to a new machine. And if you ever find superior free software, especially one that copies over just as easily, please post.