If a program needs its own own BSD style jail to move from one machine to another, then perfect. I'm not worried about space. I'll probably run the program from the removable drive itself, so I don't even need to copy it over. Hmmm.. kinda like having an old Atari game cartridge.
Convenience, reliability, and simplicity are the goal here.
In addition to the AC's very valid point below. I might have an app requires a previous version of an installed library. Remember, the issue is portability. You can't have it any other way. Copying and running a program to any machine should be just as simple as doing the same with any text document.
That's why you should put programs you install under/usr/local, not straight under/usr.
Not the issue. That's a given. It's when I suddenly find out I don't have some bizarre version of gtk, or ncurses (great name, because that's what I'm doing when I find it missing), and I'm suddenly without internet, it gets a bit tense. I prefer the portability over raw efficiency. It is far and away one of the best things about a Mac. I can take something as bloated as MS Office or Photoshop straight from one machine to the next.
I prefer to avoid the disagreements over what is a "proper package management system". In fact with each program in its own "sandbox", protected from each other, I see better security.
That would all be nice if not for each program replacing shared libraries with its own and breaking the other programs. A program should not disturb the system or mess with its libraries. I prefer it remains as isolated as possible, where it can do the least damage.
The Mac has been doing this since almost the very beginning.. The app was a single file, not even a package. The other systems, Windows and Linux, are madness. It's like splatter painting. Or for your airplane analogy, it's like designing the instrument panel with a shotgun.
Wow, portable apps, just like an old Mac. Did anybody, for even a second think it's kinda weird for a program to splatter its parts all over the disk and into every directory it can find?
We shouldn't allow this kind of secrecy. If it takes FUD to pry open the case, then I'm all for it. Sometimes it takes a sledgehammer to "tear down that wall".
If they want look good, they have to employ Mr. Scot's method of miracle working. Overbid, and come out way under. They'll be guaranteed another contract for sure.
Not really. It was an obvious lack of foresight. They were warned. They simply took a chance that nothing would happen. The most appropriate comment would be "living on the edge".
Not a troll. The parent covers some important reasons why many human endeavors come up short, not just FOSS.
In fact the moderator is probably exhibiting that very tribalism (fanboiism)
Java is a hot potato, time for something else, unless it can be wrenched loose from its corporate straitjacket. That means, don't trust IBM or Google anymore than you would Oracle.
The subscriber level equipment was the best thing about Ma Bell. The stuff was indestructible. And if you could manage to break it, you were rewarded with a new one, free of charge. The only real issue I remember was line leasing abuses, which were quite extensive. Very similar to the old railroad monopolies. The breakup has given us comparability problems and little else. The actual monopoly is as powerful as ever.
But, I'm sure that you'd be perfectly fine with President Obama ordering around private sector entities which aren't employed by the government, right?
When they commit a crime, why not? At the very least you make sure the bastards pay every penny for all damages... The accident was totally avoidable with simple due diligence.
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If a program needs its own own BSD style jail to move from one machine to another, then perfect. I'm not worried about space. I'll probably run the program from the removable drive itself, so I don't even need to copy it over. Hmmm.. kinda like having an old Atari game cartridge.
Convenience, reliability, and simplicity are the goal here.
In addition to the AC's very valid point below. I might have an app requires a previous version of an installed library. Remember, the issue is portability. You can't have it any other way. Copying and running a program to any machine should be just as simple as doing the same with any text document.
That's why you should put programs you install under /usr/local, not straight under /usr.
Not the issue. That's a given. It's when I suddenly find out I don't have some bizarre version of gtk, or ncurses (great name, because that's what I'm doing when I find it missing), and I'm suddenly without internet, it gets a bit tense. I prefer the portability over raw efficiency. It is far and away one of the best things about a Mac. I can take something as bloated as MS Office or Photoshop straight from one machine to the next.
I prefer to avoid the disagreements over what is a "proper package management system". In fact with each program in its own "sandbox", protected from each other, I see better security.
That would all be nice if not for each program replacing shared libraries with its own and breaking the other programs. A program should not disturb the system or mess with its libraries. I prefer it remains as isolated as possible, where it can do the least damage.
The Mac has been doing this since almost the very beginning.. The app was a single file, not even a package. The other systems, Windows and Linux, are madness. It's like splatter painting. Or for your airplane analogy, it's like designing the instrument panel with a shotgun.
Wow, portable apps, just like an old Mac. Did anybody, for even a second think it's kinda weird for a program to splatter its parts all over the disk and into every directory it can find?
Oh no!
We shouldn't allow this kind of secrecy. If it takes FUD to pry open the case, then I'm all for it. Sometimes it takes a sledgehammer to "tear down that wall".
Anybody getting the hint yet? Patents and copyrights are nothing but black holes, sucking in all human creativity.
...I'm fucking Kevin Mitnick.
Fag!
If they want look good, they have to employ Mr. Scot's method of miracle working. Overbid, and come out way under. They'll be guaranteed another contract for sure.
They (and their stockholders) did lose money over this...
*It's but a scratch.. No it isn't. Your arms are off!... I've had worse...*
A simple name change would be the maximum effect needed to recoup any minor losses. Their biggest expense would be the new stationary.
Not really. It was an obvious lack of foresight. They were warned. They simply took a chance that nothing would happen. The most appropriate comment would be "living on the edge".
Wall street makes more money from war than from exploration and space science.
They just underestimated the original bid to get the contract. That's just the way things work.. SNAFU
Not a troll. The parent covers some important reasons why many human endeavors come up short, not just FOSS.
In fact the moderator is probably exhibiting that very tribalism (fanboiism)
Java is a hot potato, time for something else, unless it can be wrenched loose from its corporate straitjacket. That means, don't trust IBM or Google anymore than you would Oracle.
The worst kind of thug there is.
The subscriber level equipment was the best thing about Ma Bell. The stuff was indestructible. And if you could manage to break it, you were rewarded with a new one, free of charge. The only real issue I remember was line leasing abuses, which were quite extensive. Very similar to the old railroad monopolies. The breakup has given us comparability problems and little else. The actual monopoly is as powerful as ever.
I had a fly in the soup!
Well, at these prices, I would expect at least two..
Jet fuel is getting mighty expensive. And a bird strike won't disable it.
But, I'm sure that you'd be perfectly fine with President Obama ordering around private sector entities which aren't employed by the government, right?
When they commit a crime, why not? At the very least you make sure the bastards pay every penny for all damages... The accident was totally avoidable with simple due diligence.
For example if we switched to Solar energy, we'd need to pave over Nevada...
I wouldn't mind seeing the math on that
it. I'm sure it'll all just go away...
Yes, that is usually what happens. The voters find all this perfectly acceptable. Why can't you?
shall continue indefinitely... It's a shame people can't tell the difference between such distinct and separate things.