3. Uhhh What about all those commercial unixes and other operating systems like QNX that are not free (yet) there are still a few.
I did say "most alternative OS's are free (as in beer)." didn't I?
Hmm... well, how much does a single-user copy of Office cost? Buy.com has $396.95 for a copy of Office Standard... $40 bucks back would be about 10% of the price... not too bad of a return...
1 & 2: You have to live in the state of California, and, presumably, purchased Micro$oft Producs that you have registered. Remember, the lawsuit is over monopolistic practices which have led to OVERLY INFLATED prices for consumers in California.
3: This shouldn't have any effect on alternative OS's because most alternative OS's are free (as in beer).
I'm guessing, from experience with previous class action lawsuits, if the state wins, any person who has purchased certain MS products in the state of California will be entitled to a rebate in the mail. You'll probably have to do the footwork on this yourself, as in, it won't be mailed to you, you need to go out and find this for yourself, mail it in, along with proof of purchase, etc...
Here's another good article that covers Google from Inter@ctive Week. The article talks about their new advertising scheme, how it is text -only based, and the relative effectivness it has.
And the best part about google is that they haven't spent a penny on advertising themselves since they started in 1998. (They've spread through word of mouth and shameless plugs like the one I just gave;-)
AOL didn't really create it... if you RTFA, you'll see that a subsidiary created it. That subsidiary is Nullsoft, the makers of the popular Windows MP3-Player "Winamp"...
I'm guessing that the federal government is eventually going to get sued for creating the internet in the first place... people have see to have forgotten that there are PEOPLE who are pirating, and aren't going after them anymore... they're going right up to the people responsible for making them...
Hell... let's sue the DOD for creating DARPANet... let's sue the estate of Vanevar Bush for coming up with an idea about knowledge-sharing back in the 40's.
What is it going to take to make these people realize that they keep going after the wrong people in all of this?
it was his *job* to find them guilty, if in fact, under the current law they were, even if he didn't like it and that law was unconstitutional. It is the Supreme Court's decision to strike down unconstitutional laws.
Not exactly. ANY court can say a law is constitutional or unconcstitutional. The whole ladder of the court system, from your village and town courts, all the way up to the supreme court can say ANY law challeneged before it is unconcstitutional.
The purpose of the supreme court is to be the ultimate resolution of a question of constitutional question.
If the app is distributed as source and the toolchain is 64 bit the app will be promoted automagically
Like my CS professor said... "and everybody thought having C++ be backwards compatiable with C is a great thing! Now you can get all the benefits of Object Oriented programming without having to rewrite any of your C code!"
It should be noted that he said this sarcastically.
Gateway and America Online have also added their support, committing to use chips from Transmeta for an Internet access device.
So, it looks like the appliance might be running on a Transmeta chip, running Linux, and connecting to AOL... (Just what the Microsoft/Intel cartel wants to hear:-)
A: Someone who doesn't know that they're running Linux... Like someone who is running an Internet Appliance. If you RTFA, you'd see this:
The company plans to use its Linux-based service in future Net gadgets. It has already struck partnerships with chipmaker Transmeta and PC maker Gateway to produce Linux-powered appliances slated for release later this year.
I don't know about other schools, but I do know that at RIT, they do posess a lot of control over your theses. In fact, RIT can claim copyright over anything done by students for a project, or created using school resources.
And you can get all the theses from the library.
As for Contentville, it seems that they have purchased some rights to these documents (or they are of the public domain).
It looks like some schools might be submitting their theses to this database to be incorporated, and then put up for sale.
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after a lot of "administrative" costs
Though/.'ed as they are, IIRC, Fairtunes.com charges an extra 4% of the transaction and $0.25 per transaction, which includes all the costs of distributing the money to the artists, and the credit-card merchants fees. So, giving $0.01 would cost $0.26. Giving $1.00 would cost $1.29... giving $10.00 would be $10.65
We did... for a very brief period, we had the "Line Item Veto", which allowed the president to strike portions of laws, thus preventing congress from passing a bill that contained the meat of a law, while tacking on unrelated "pork barrel" projects to it that the president may not agree with.
Unfortunatley, when President Clinton used it, a lawsuit was filed by three senators claming that their constitutional authority had been usurped. The case went to the Supreme Court, and the plaintiffs complaint was upheld, and line item veto was declared unconstitutional.
So, it looks like the only way to get the Line Item Veto would be to have a constitutional amendment... and that's not very likeley right now. The last Line Item Veto amendment introduced to the house has been buried in the Judiciary subcomitee since 2/99.
Yup... it'll probably go to a "government-friendly" school... like RIT, a school well known for its wonderful ties to the CIA and government agencies...
Yeah... while they're at it, they'll probably plant a couple of FBI spies into the RIT architecture there too. I'll trust them... sure!
Hmm... IIRC, the unified standards group was fairly recent news (as in coming to the limelight)... I don't think development of an AIM for Linux could have been done that quickly.
my econ class taught me that the market sets the prices....
... in a perfect world, where market-entry and exit costs are negligible, competition is perfect, people have 100% access to markets, and there is infinite demand for products... I know I should be able to name more... but I haven't taken an economics course in a year.
2 words: CELLULAR MODEM.
A physical tap on a phone line works because of the 'circuit switching' behavior of the phone line. (That is: when you make a phone call, there is a dedicated path for your phone data to travel over.) There is a GUARANTEED point of access for your phone, and it's the copper wire that runs from your phone to a PBX somewhere. This can (and already is) being used to tap your phone line (when authorized.)
The difference comes when you add internet technologies to this. Becuase of the way a modem works, (handshaking, protocol setup, etc.), it becomes damn difficult to tap the actual modem signal (especially since the two modems agree to protocols on call startup), and introducing a third modem later on would probably disrupt the connection, and not monitor it.
A cellular modem would also make things difficult to tap because you're still dealing with an analog modem signal. Also, a cellular modem is PORTABLE, and can switch from tower to tower at a moment's notice.
The ONLY bottleneck you can guarantee their data will be going through in an accessible format will be their ISP, and yes, upstream of their modem pool, because it's very difficult to figure out exactly which modem is being accessed in a dynamic system. That puts an undue burden on the ISP to assist law enforcement agencies in an investigation.
Damn. I know journalistic integrity doesn't apply
Did ABCNews mention that Fred Moody was a Microsoft employee at one time? He spent 1-2 years with them as Microsoft developed a childrens multimedia guide, reporting on their processes, and state of the team project, etc.
I'd expect a little more journalistic integrity out of ABCNews...
If "Mr. Smith" holds up a warrant then you can bet your ass they will. I don't see why (form a tech standpoint) an ISP would not be able to do this now (Or years ago).
You're missing my point. My point is that ISP's don't let just anyone come in and place a black box between their boxes and their outside lines.
People didn't read previous articles on what Carnivore DOES. The person who commented on "people getting the code and modifying it" doesn't really do anything because you CAN'T PLACE A BOX between the ISP's line and their boxes...
It's like a person talking on a land-based phone line... unless you tap into the system UPSTREAM from them, there is NO WAY to listen in on what is being said. From previous articles, this appears how Carnivore works. The black box is installed at the ISP LEVEL... so unless the script kiddie runs an ISP, it's no threat to people if the code is published... (of course, that doesn't prevent ISP's from bulding Carnivore Boxes, but that's a completeley different story.)
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Sure. I'll give you the instructions on how to make the wiretap (Carnivore). However, you can't have access to the wire itself (fiber, copper, or otherwise.)
From everything I've read, carnivore is still a "box" that needs to be PHYSICALLY connected to the ISP's line. And I can't think of any ISP that will just say, "Sure Mr. Smith, come on over and tie you packet sniffer directly into our incoming line."
It doesn't look like there is anything "remote" about the packet sniffing going on with this machine... so it's pretty much worthless to people in a "software only" state...
Of course, having the code out there could make it possible for your ISP to build a Carnivore and monitor your communications... but that's a completley different story.
You see, this is like digital music... once it's out there, it's an IDEA, and ideas can't be put back into the bottles like genies can. This thing can't be DESTROYED... because it's been created... it will come back and haunt you.
10 days, let alone a disclosure on one of their pet projects that they don't want anyone to know the details of
RTFA Again. It's not going to be released in 10 days. The 10 days is to create a TIMETABLE of when the details of the system will be divulged. I also didn't notice anything in the CNN article stating when the divulging must be completed, only that it will be overseen by the court.
Would you pay more than you would elsewhere? Less?
It all depends on how you define "more" and "less". If it cuts out a large number of middlemen, then yes, I would be paying less. And could these creators charge more than what they're getting now on a per unit basis? Of course (or they probably wouldn't do it otherwise). So I would be paying, more AND less. More of the money would go to the artists who provide the content.
I had always thought SDMI was a paralell computing term meaning Single Data Multiple Instruction. Which was pretty much useless because any of the instructions could modify that data at any time, making the multiple instuctions operating on it useless...
At least you don't go to the South Henrietta Institute of Technology... err... I mean Rochester Institute of Technology. You figure out the initials;-)
Ahh... but there are times when injunctions are nessecary... imagine that we're farmers that have a small stream running through our properties... I'm downstream from you, and you build a dam to stop the flow of water... my farm could be ruined if something isn't done RIGHT AWAY.
Of course though, I'm not saying that this is one of those cases... but sometimes an injunctoin is nessecary.
and a quote from the article: The drop in college music store sales was more pronounced in 1998 than in 1999--a year before Napster was written, released and began spreading quickly across college campuses.
I have another theory as to why sales drop... according to RIAA's own statistics, the average value of a CD has increased since 1998-1999. Since college students are less well-off than other demographics, an increase in price has led to a decrease in demand.
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3. Uhhh What about all those commercial unixes and other operating systems like QNX that are not free (yet) there are still a few.
I did say "most alternative OS's are free (as in beer)." didn't I?
Hmm... well, how much does a single-user copy of Office cost? Buy.com has $396.95 for a copy of Office Standard... $40 bucks back would be about 10% of the price... not too bad of a return...
1 & 2: You have to live in the state of California, and, presumably, purchased Micro$oft Producs that you have registered. Remember, the lawsuit is over monopolistic practices which have led to OVERLY INFLATED prices for consumers in California.
3: This shouldn't have any effect on alternative OS's because most alternative OS's are free (as in beer).
I'm guessing, from experience with previous class action lawsuits, if the state wins, any person who has purchased certain MS products in the state of California will be entitled to a rebate in the mail. You'll probably have to do the footwork on this yourself, as in, it won't be mailed to you, you need to go out and find this for yourself, mail it in, along with proof of purchase, etc...
at least that's my $0.02 on it.
Good point... isn't Sony also manufacturing portable MP3 players?
Here's another good article that covers Google from Inter@ctive Week. The article talks about their new advertising scheme, how it is text -only based, and the relative effectivness it has.
;-)
And the best part about google is that they haven't spent a penny on advertising themselves since they started in 1998. (They've spread through word of mouth and shameless plugs like the one I just gave
AOL didn't really create it... if you RTFA, you'll see that a subsidiary created it. That subsidiary is Nullsoft, the makers of the popular Windows MP3-Player "Winamp"...
I'm guessing that the federal government is eventually going to get sued for creating the internet in the first place... people have see to have forgotten that there are PEOPLE who are pirating, and aren't going after them anymore... they're going right up to the people responsible for making them...
Hell... let's sue the DOD for creating DARPANet... let's sue the estate of Vanevar Bush for coming up with an idea about knowledge-sharing back in the 40's.
What is it going to take to make these people realize that they keep going after the wrong people in all of this?
it was his *job* to find them guilty, if in fact, under the current law they were, even if he didn't like it and that law was unconstitutional. It is the Supreme Court's decision to strike down unconstitutional laws.
Not exactly. ANY court can say a law is constitutional or unconcstitutional. The whole ladder of the court system, from your village and town courts, all the way up to the supreme court can say ANY law challeneged before it is unconcstitutional.
The purpose of the supreme court is to be the ultimate resolution of a question of constitutional question.
If the app is distributed as source and the toolchain is 64 bit the app will be promoted automagically
Like my CS professor said... "and everybody thought having C++ be backwards compatiable with C is a great thing! Now you can get all the benefits of Object Oriented programming without having to rewrite any of your C code!"
It should be noted that he said this sarcastically.
So, it looks like the appliance might be running on a Transmeta chip, running Linux, and connecting to AOL... (Just what the Microsoft/Intel cartel wants to hear
A: Someone who doesn't know that they're running Linux... Like someone who is running an Internet Appliance. If you RTFA, you'd see this:
I don't know about other schools, but I do know that at RIT, they do posess a lot of control over your theses. In fact, RIT can claim copyright over anything done by students for a project, or created using school resources.
And you can get all the theses from the library.
As for Contentville, it seems that they have purchased some rights to these documents (or they are of the public domain).
It looks like some schools might be submitting their theses to this database to be incorporated, and then put up for sale.
after a lot of "administrative" costs
/.'ed as they are, IIRC, Fairtunes.com charges an extra 4% of the transaction and $0.25 per transaction, which includes all the costs of distributing the money to the artists, and the credit-card merchants fees. So, giving $0.01 would cost $0.26. Giving $1.00 would cost $1.29... giving $10.00 would be $10.65
Though
We need the same for our laws.
We did... for a very brief period, we had the "Line Item Veto", which allowed the president to strike portions of laws, thus preventing congress from passing a bill that contained the meat of a law, while tacking on unrelated "pork barrel" projects to it that the president may not agree with.
Unfortunatley, when President Clinton used it, a lawsuit was filed by three senators claming that their constitutional authority had been usurped. The case went to the Supreme Court, and the plaintiffs complaint was upheld, and line item veto was declared unconstitutional.
So, it looks like the only way to get the Line Item Veto would be to have a constitutional amendment... and that's not very likeley right now. The last Line Item Veto amendment introduced to the house has been buried in the Judiciary subcomitee since 2/99.
Yup... it'll probably go to a "government-friendly" school... like RIT, a school well known for its wonderful ties to the CIA and government agencies...
Yeah... while they're at it, they'll probably plant a couple of FBI spies into the RIT architecture there too. I'll trust them... sure!
Hmm... IIRC, the unified standards group was fairly recent news (as in coming to the limelight)... I don't think development of an AIM for Linux could have been done that quickly.
my econ class taught me that the market sets the prices....
... in a perfect world, where market-entry and exit costs are negligible, competition is perfect, people have 100% access to markets, and there is infinite demand for products... I know I should be able to name more... but I haven't taken an economics course in a year.
2 words: CELLULAR MODEM. A physical tap on a phone line works because of the 'circuit switching' behavior of the phone line. (That is: when you make a phone call, there is a dedicated path for your phone data to travel over.) There is a GUARANTEED point of access for your phone, and it's the copper wire that runs from your phone to a PBX somewhere. This can (and already is) being used to tap your phone line (when authorized.)
The difference comes when you add internet technologies to this. Becuase of the way a modem works, (handshaking, protocol setup, etc.), it becomes damn difficult to tap the actual modem signal (especially since the two modems agree to protocols on call startup), and introducing a third modem later on would probably disrupt the connection, and not monitor it.
A cellular modem would also make things difficult to tap because you're still dealing with an analog modem signal. Also, a cellular modem is PORTABLE, and can switch from tower to tower at a moment's notice.
The ONLY bottleneck you can guarantee their data will be going through in an accessible format will be their ISP, and yes, upstream of their modem pool, because it's very difficult to figure out exactly which modem is being accessed in a dynamic system. That puts an undue burden on the ISP to assist law enforcement agencies in an investigation.
Damn. I know journalistic integrity doesn't apply
Did ABCNews mention that Fred Moody was a Microsoft employee at one time? He spent 1-2 years with them as Microsoft developed a childrens multimedia guide, reporting on their processes, and state of the team project, etc.
I'd expect a little more journalistic integrity out of ABCNews...
If "Mr. Smith" holds up a warrant then you can bet your ass they will. I don't see why (form a tech standpoint) an ISP would not be able to do this now (Or years ago).
You're missing my point. My point is that ISP's don't let just anyone come in and place a black box between their boxes and their outside lines.
People didn't read previous articles on what Carnivore DOES. The person who commented on "people getting the code and modifying it" doesn't really do anything because you CAN'T PLACE A BOX between the ISP's line and their boxes...
It's like a person talking on a land-based phone line... unless you tap into the system UPSTREAM from them, there is NO WAY to listen in on what is being said. From previous articles, this appears how Carnivore works. The black box is installed at the ISP LEVEL... so unless the script kiddie runs an ISP, it's no threat to people if the code is published... (of course, that doesn't prevent ISP's from bulding Carnivore Boxes, but that's a completeley different story.)
Hey, cool. Something broke in the moderation system and I can't lose karma anymore. Mod this all down - it doesn't make any difference anymore. Hahaha! My karma is stuck at 113!
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Sure. I'll give you the instructions on how to make the wiretap (Carnivore). However, you can't have access to the wire itself (fiber, copper, or otherwise.)
From everything I've read, carnivore is still a "box" that needs to be PHYSICALLY connected to the ISP's line. And I can't think of any ISP that will just say, "Sure Mr. Smith, come on over and tie you packet sniffer directly into our incoming line."
It doesn't look like there is anything "remote" about the packet sniffing going on with this machine... so it's pretty much worthless to people in a "software only" state...
Of course, having the code out there could make it possible for your ISP to build a Carnivore and monitor your communications... but that's a completley different story.
You see, this is like digital music... once it's out there, it's an IDEA, and ideas can't be put back into the bottles like genies can. This thing can't be DESTROYED... because it's been created... it will come back and haunt you.
10 days, let alone a disclosure on one of their pet projects that they don't want anyone to know the details of
RTFA Again. It's not going to be released in 10 days. The 10 days is to create a TIMETABLE of when the details of the system will be divulged. I also didn't notice anything in the CNN article stating when the divulging must be completed, only that it will be overseen by the court.
Would you pay more than you would elsewhere? Less?
It all depends on how you define "more" and "less". If it cuts out a large number of middlemen, then yes, I would be paying less. And could these creators charge more than what they're getting now on a per unit basis? Of course (or they probably wouldn't do it otherwise). So I would be paying, more AND less. More of the money would go to the artists who provide the content.
Sounds like a plan to me.
I had always thought SDMI was a paralell computing term meaning Single Data Multiple Instruction. Which was pretty much useless because any of the instructions could modify that data at any time, making the multiple instuctions operating on it useless...
;-)
At least you don't go to the South Henrietta Institute of Technology... err... I mean Rochester Institute of Technology. You figure out the initials
guilty until proven innocent.
Ahh... but there are times when injunctions are nessecary... imagine that we're farmers that have a small stream running through our properties... I'm downstream from you, and you build a dam to stop the flow of water... my farm could be ruined if something isn't done RIGHT AWAY.
Of course though, I'm not saying that this is one of those cases... but sometimes an injunctoin is nessecary.
-Misch
IIRC, the study said that there was a drop in sales at 64 SELECTED record stores near colleges and universities where Napster was banned...
Previous Slashdot story
Here's the C-Net story
and a quote from the article: The drop in college music store sales was more pronounced in 1998 than in 1999--a year before Napster was written, released and began spreading quickly across college campuses.
I have another theory as to why sales drop... according to RIAA's own statistics, the average value of a CD has increased since 1998-1999. Since college students are less well-off than other demographics, an increase in price has led to a decrease in demand.