Yeah, a technology that's cross-platform, supports the creation of data-driven GUI apps deployed over the web, is viewable by 90% of the internet user-base, is supported by industry giants like IBM, Sun, BEA, Oracle...yeah, let's hope it dies.
Ugh, not all flash is stupid little animations!! Good lord. There are places where a Flash INTERFACE is far superior to an HTML/JavaScript/CSS interface.
Flash is not just skipintros, and if you disagree, you've obviously had it turned off for far too long. Macromedia's current push is into the same space that Sun tried to get into with Java applets...except flash has a smaller footprint, and runs 1000 times faster than Java did in the browser...and the market is much more primed for such apps.
Microsoft will not be able to kill Macromedia with this because Macromedia has been busying itself with aligning with companies like Sun and IBM to ingratiate itself with Java developers looking to deploy more robust interfaces for their applications over the web, but wanting something lighter than Java applets.
This is a case of Microsoft being WAY behind the curve. Longhorn is 2 years out minimum...Flash is in version 7 (MX 2004), has the ability to connect to various application server frameworks (via Flash Remoting to.NET, J2EE, CF, and there are open source solutions for PHP), supports streaming media and data-push applications....it's a mature platform that has great potential.
I'm sure many people here are outraged because the guy offered to remove the pictures...legal reasons for firing him aside, as everyone here knows, there's a great thing called a Google Cache...and countless other web caching mechanisms out in the great big ether. How many times have companies or individuals removed articles, etc. from their website, only to have/. readers post the link to a cached copy of the data?
MS might not write the best software in the world, but they aren't stupid...this isn't SCO we're talking about.
Actually, this storyline was first played out in "The Outer Limits" in an episode with (fittingly enough) Leonard Nimoy, who plays the part of an attorney representing a robot that killed his master in self-defense. The court wants to shut him down, and the defense argues that he (it?) has a right to life.
This is exactly right. I work for a police deptartment...how do you think the state funds 911 Emergency Services? Taxes on phones. Look at the bottom of your phone bill fellow Californians, there's a tax notice there that goes to supporting your emergency services.
If someone is acting as a PROVIDER of phone services, then the tax needs to apply to them.
If they're using SQL Server, Oracle, and PostgreSQL, then why are their queries in the middle tier to begin with? Those queries should be built as storedprocs.
Exactly. If she's trading music over some P2P network that doesn't require membership of some sort, or have a terms-of-use forbidding the tracking of users, then her argument IS weak.
IANAL, but it seems to me that if her files were publicly available, then there can be no expectation of privacy.
failing to realize that Israel has never once started one of the wars that it has participated in.
Actually, Israel started the last 3 wars in which it particpated. Even their last war against Egypt, which they claimed was started by the Egyptians, was started by Israel. US intelligence (satellite photos and SIGINT) showed that Israel attacked Egypt's air force while it was still on the ground (an odd posture for an invading army) and had moved into the Sinai before Egypt had any clue what was going on.
The US had an intelligence gathering ship sunk by Israel for their troubles (the USS Liberty).
I'm sorry, maybe I haven't gotten to the article that this person read saying that MS was pro-spam, but near as I can tell, there were two different anti-SPAM bills, and the one that was consumer-backed was shot down, while the industry-backed on moved on. Near as I can tell though, the industry-backed bill is still ANTI-SPAM.
As a former Macromedia evangelist, I like to think so. Generally evangelists are what sales people call "Geeks Who Can Speak", or people who are really in to technology and every little new gadget and standard and rumor, love nothing more than spending time in a lab or office building machines or writing software (depending on where you're an evangelist), but have no problem getting in front of a group of managers and making information simple enough for them to understand, as well as stand in front of a group of developers and hold their own.
Mod this up...this is an excellent rebuttal to what was nothing more than a glorified troll. Slashdot is supposed to support open source, not closed mind (although the latter often seems to be stronger).
Only when being played through the browser. Their patent doesn't cover every type of plugin known to man...it even references MS's use of OLE for an application plugin architecture in their patent, so their patent can't cover OS or application plugins...their only claim is against browser plugins...so they could attack.NET applets, but not much else about.NET.
Anyone remember hearing this term from M$ before? That's where they're going with this. They want to be able to offer the word application as little more than a front end to a series of web services that they'll be offering for a fee. This makes an XML-based file format much more attractive to MS because it's more effecient to sent data that is already in an XML-based format to a WS than it is to take a binary format, serialize it to SOAP, and then send to the WS and have to deserialize said object.
Do I believe that MS will actually use a real XML format? Sure. Do I believe for one second that this is to be more open? Hell no.
Jobs has been trying to break the connection of product announcements with keynote speeches anyway. When everyone expects there to be big introductions at the keynote, people stop buying Macs before the keynotes, in case a product line is refreshed. This makes it hard for Apple to clear out inventory - why buy an iMac in June if you think a new one will be introduced in July?
I think you nailed it. I know that my employer (Macromedia) used to announce our new tools offereing at the Jan. Macworld every year...and guess what - no one bought any dreamweaver or flash or fireworks during the latter part of November all-through December. Since we've changed our release model, we don't see those huge drop-off's before launches.
Very good point...only one way to describe that M$ Mole guy: Karma Whore
In all honesty I wanted to post this about a month ago but was travelling and just forgot...didn't remember until the GotDotNet site was updated to list the workspace news on the front page.
And before I am accused of being yet another anti-MS bigot - I'm frequently one of their few defenders here. This just happened to be one of those points where their corporate - closed mentality cost them some brownie points.
The ColumnStructure class will not be serializable, and is read-only, so you can provide empty implementations for the methods the grid will not call.
You'd be surprised. A lot of larger corporations that run complex web apps and happen to be big Solaris shops run web apps on configurations of this kind. I remember one client who was evaluating ColdFusion and decided to put together a new DEVELOPMENT box that happened to be a 45 processor Sun box. According to the client, the 2 production servers for that site were both 100+ machines (they ended up not going with CF because of the cost - Macromedia charges per cpu). Granted this client was doing more heavy lifting with their web apps than most people, and they are the exception rather than the norm, but people like this are out there.
Solaris is a kick-ass OS...and as much as I'd like to have my own Sun Blade sitting right next to my BSD box, I don't quite have the free cash for that kind of hardware. For someone like me who has to test in all kinds of environments, the possibility to get support on any setup is rather important as well.
A whole $67M? Geeze, the industry really got screwed there. Man, how will they, as a lowly $2B/year industry, be able to make up that loss? Man, I better go out and buy 10 or 20 price-fixed CD's to help keep the industry going. I hear this P2P War on Terrorism might hurt their bottom line as well.
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I don't mean to be a troll, because I loved your post, but the "life, liberty, etc." is from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.
from the one-tech-i'd-love-to-see-die dept
Yeah, a technology that's cross-platform, supports the creation of data-driven GUI apps deployed over the web, is viewable by 90% of the internet user-base, is supported by industry giants like IBM, Sun, BEA, Oracle...yeah, let's hope it dies.
I don't get it.
Ugh, not all flash is stupid little animations!! Good lord. There are places where a Flash INTERFACE is far superior to an HTML/JavaScript/CSS interface.
.NET, J2EE, CF, and there are open source solutions for PHP), supports streaming media and data-push applications....it's a mature platform that has great potential.
Flash is not just skipintros, and if you disagree, you've obviously had it turned off for far too long. Macromedia's current push is into the same space that Sun tried to get into with Java applets...except flash has a smaller footprint, and runs 1000 times faster than Java did in the browser...and the market is much more primed for such apps.
Microsoft will not be able to kill Macromedia with this because Macromedia has been busying itself with aligning with companies like Sun and IBM to ingratiate itself with Java developers looking to deploy more robust interfaces for their applications over the web, but wanting something lighter than Java applets.
This is a case of Microsoft being WAY behind the curve. Longhorn is 2 years out minimum...Flash is in version 7 (MX 2004), has the ability to connect to various application server frameworks (via Flash Remoting to
I'm sure many people here are outraged because the guy offered to remove the pictures...legal reasons for firing him aside, as everyone here knows, there's a great thing called a Google Cache...and countless other web caching mechanisms out in the great big ether. How many times have companies or individuals removed articles, etc. from their website, only to have /. readers post the link to a cached copy of the data?
MS might not write the best software in the world, but they aren't stupid...this isn't SCO we're talking about.
Actually, this storyline was first played out in "The Outer Limits" in an episode with (fittingly enough) Leonard Nimoy, who plays the part of an attorney representing a robot that killed his master in self-defense. The court wants to shut him down, and the defense argues that he (it?) has a right to life.
This is exactly right. I work for a police deptartment...how do you think the state funds 911 Emergency Services? Taxes on phones. Look at the bottom of your phone bill fellow Californians, there's a tax notice there that goes to supporting your emergency services.
If someone is acting as a PROVIDER of phone services, then the tax needs to apply to them.
If they're using SQL Server, Oracle, and PostgreSQL, then why are their queries in the middle tier to begin with? Those queries should be built as storedprocs.
Exactly. If she's trading music over some P2P network that doesn't require membership of some sort, or have a terms-of-use forbidding the tracking of users, then her argument IS weak.
IANAL, but it seems to me that if her files were publicly available, then there can be no expectation of privacy.
Computers have a weak immune system...they can't create their own anti-bodies...but at least they can be buttressed with flu-shots.
failing to realize that Israel has never once started one of the wars that it has participated in.
Actually, Israel started the last 3 wars in which it particpated. Even their last war against Egypt, which they claimed was started by the Egyptians, was started by Israel. US intelligence (satellite photos and SIGINT) showed that Israel attacked Egypt's air force while it was still on the ground (an odd posture for an invading army) and had moved into the Sinai before Egypt had any clue what was going on.
The US had an intelligence gathering ship sunk by Israel for their troubles (the USS Liberty).
Also, it is NEVER up to the accused to prove innocence
Ah, how cute...they're so cute before reality hits.
I'm sorry, maybe I haven't gotten to the article that this person read saying that MS was pro-spam, but near as I can tell, there were two different anti-SPAM bills, and the one that was consumer-backed was shot down, while the industry-backed on moved on. Near as I can tell though, the industry-backed bill is still ANTI-SPAM.
When I first looked at the title I thought this was about that group at M$ that wrote the Cassini web server.
As a former Macromedia evangelist, I like to think so. Generally evangelists are what sales people call "Geeks Who Can Speak", or people who are really in to technology and every little new gadget and standard and rumor, love nothing more than spending time in a lab or office building machines or writing software (depending on where you're an evangelist), but have no problem getting in front of a group of managers and making information simple enough for them to understand, as well as stand in front of a group of developers and hold their own.
At least, that's how I thought of myself.
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Call it: Flaming Chicken
Mod this up...this is an excellent rebuttal to what was nothing more than a glorified troll. Slashdot is supposed to support open source, not closed mind (although the latter often seems to be stronger).
Isn't .NET also covered by this patent?
.NET applets, but not much else about .NET.
Only when being played through the browser. Their patent doesn't cover every type of plugin known to man...it even references MS's use of OLE for an application plugin architecture in their patent, so their patent can't cover OS or application plugins...their only claim is against browser plugins...so they could attack
"Software As A Service"
Anyone remember hearing this term from M$ before? That's where they're going with this. They want to be able to offer the word application as little more than a front end to a series of web services that they'll be offering for a fee. This makes an XML-based file format much more attractive to MS because it's more effecient to sent data that is already in an XML-based format to a WS than it is to take a binary format, serialize it to SOAP, and then send to the WS and have to deserialize said object.
Do I believe that MS will actually use a real XML format? Sure. Do I believe for one second that this is to be more open? Hell no.
I think you nailed it. I know that my employer (Macromedia) used to announce our new tools offereing at the Jan. Macworld every year...and guess what - no one bought any dreamweaver or flash or fireworks during the latter part of November all-through December. Since we've changed our release model, we don't see those huge drop-off's before launches.
Very good point...only one way to describe that M$ Mole guy: Karma Whore
In all honesty I wanted to post this about a month ago but was travelling and just forgot...didn't remember until the GotDotNet site was updated to list the workspace news on the front page.
And before I am accused of being yet another anti-MS bigot - I'm frequently one of their few defenders here. This just happened to be one of those points where their corporate - closed mentality cost them some brownie points.
The quote was SUPPOSED TO BE:
Now I must go and figure out what this "Pre-view" button is since I obviously have the "Sub-mit" one down.
You'd be surprised. A lot of larger corporations that run complex web apps and happen to be big Solaris shops run web apps on configurations of this kind. I remember one client who was evaluating ColdFusion and decided to put together a new DEVELOPMENT box that happened to be a 45 processor Sun box. According to the client, the 2 production servers for that site were both 100+ machines (they ended up not going with CF because of the cost - Macromedia charges per cpu). Granted this client was doing more heavy lifting with their web apps than most people, and they are the exception rather than the norm, but people like this are out there.
Solaris is a kick-ass OS...and as much as I'd like to have my own Sun Blade sitting right next to my BSD box, I don't quite have the free cash for that kind of hardware. For someone like me who has to test in all kinds of environments, the possibility to get support on any setup is rather important as well.
A whole $67M? Geeze, the industry really got screwed there. Man, how will they, as a lowly $2B/year industry, be able to make up that loss? Man, I better go out and buy 10 or 20 price-fixed CD's to help keep the industry going. I hear this P2P War on Terrorism might hurt their bottom line as well.