> IE renders faster, and, horrors, is more stable. (This seems to be true on Linux, too... My Linux Netscape dumps core about every 5 minutes, whereas IE only does it about every 15 minutes...)
So you run IE on Linux? yea, and pigs fly...
BTW: Mozilla in linux is VERY stable, and it isn't even beta...
> Microsoft's JVM is better,
You know what are you talking about? The M$ JVM SUCKS! and they haven't improved it in years... SUN JVM is really good, not very fast but A LOT more updated. And if you want a fast JVM use the one from IBM
Did you ever wrote a Java program for the M$ JVM?? please shut up!
> as is their implementation of ECMA/JavaScript
Again you don't know what are you talking about, Mozilla supports JavaScript 1.5 and is working in the new ECMA standard and JavaScript 2.0, please visit http://www.mozilla.org/js/ and inform yourself...
> After being lambasted for being nothing but a marketing organization, Microsoft has put a lot of time and money into making the last couple versions of IE really good...
Really good at not implementing the standards you mean? The IE support of XSL-T XML Schema, DOM(Levels 1 and 2) and CSS(1 and 2) is broken and I wonder if they plan to fix it... IE even didn't support completely HTML 4.01
>Netscape seems to have decided to take just the opposite approach and become nothing more than a marketing arm of AOL...
Yea, AOL and Netscape marketing sucks BUT the majority of the Netscape
developers working in Mozilla are Gods, not only great developers, but very nice people. And yes, I hate PDT(if you want to see how much I dislike them read bug #3935)!
> all the good work is being done for by the Mozilla folks, and as volunteers they're having a hard time keeping up with the big bucks of M$.
For you information not only volunteers(as me) work in Mozilla, in mozilla work people from: AOL, Netscape, SUN, QNX, IBM, RedHat, Intel, Be...
And may be volunteers don't have the big bucks of M$, but many of them are Gods(Robert O'Callahan, Blake, Jag, Pike... and all the others: YOU ROCK!), and they put a big effort working in Mozilla, you should be thankful!
> AOL seems to not give a damn about putting any money into the project to give the engineering effort a fighting chance against the stuff M$ is doing.
I'm tired to answer to your stupid affirmations...
It's a shame you got moderated up, seems that now SlashDot readers use Win+IE, loves M$ and closed source... AND THEY BELIEVE IE WORKS ON IE!! ...time to move...
> IE, at least on Windows, and in the versions I've tested on Linux, is just faster, more stable, more flexible in terms of add-ons it will accept without problems... better.
Please don't continue insulting my intelligence...
Best regards
> It is the same crap as Netscape. The exact same bugs and performance issues.
You mean that no bugs where fixed in the last two months? Please, take a look at bugzilla and you will see...
Only one example: The recnte nightlys include the new ViewManager that fixed MANY CSS opacity and positioning bugs and improves performance.(Bug: #39621)
Mozilla is the best browser I know that run on all my boxes(Debian, FreeBSD, Win2k, Solaris,...)(well, Lynx aside;) )
And if you know a more standards compliant browser, please tell me.
> If I can't get the source, I can't trust.
At least you can get the Mozilla source code, may be you can ask M$ for the IE source... or AOL for the Netscape source... I wonder what they added/removed to Mozilla:)
Bugzilla is already too spamed with Netscape bugs:(
Bugzilla is *only* for Mozilla bugs, please understand that Netscape is based on a *very old* version of Mozilla, and probably they even introduced more bugs in it. If you found a bug in NS test it on the last Mozilla Nightly before posting it to Bugzilla. Thanks!
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So you run IE on Linux? yea, and pigs fly...
BTW: Mozilla in linux is VERY stable, and it isn't even beta...
You know what are you talking about? The M$ JVM SUCKS! and they haven't improved it in years... SUN JVM is really good, not very fast but A LOT more updated. And if you want a fast JVM use the one from IBM
Did you ever wrote a Java program for the M$ JVM?? please shut up!
Again you don't know what are you talking about, Mozilla supports JavaScript 1.5 and is working in the new ECMA standard and JavaScript 2.0, please visit http://www.mozilla.org/js/ and inform yourself...
Really good at not implementing the standards you mean? The IE support of XSL-T XML Schema, DOM(Levels 1 and 2) and CSS(1 and 2) is broken and I wonder if they plan to fix it... IE even didn't support completely HTML 4.01
Yea, AOL and Netscape marketing sucks BUT the majority of the Netscape developers working in Mozilla are Gods, not only great developers, but very nice people. And yes, I hate PDT(if you want to see how much I dislike them read bug #3935)!
For you information not only volunteers(as me) work in Mozilla, in mozilla work people from: AOL, Netscape, SUN, QNX, IBM, RedHat, Intel, Be...
And may be volunteers don't have the big bucks of M$, but many of them are Gods(Robert O'Callahan, Blake, Jag, Pike... and all the others: YOU ROCK!), and they put a big effort working in Mozilla, you should be thankful!
I'm tired to answer to your stupid affirmations...
It's a shame you got moderated up, seems that now SlashDot readers use Win+IE, loves M$ and closed source... AND THEY BELIEVE IE WORKS ON IE!!
Please don't continue insulting my intelligence...
Best regards
Uriel
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> It is the same crap as Netscape. The exact same bugs and performance issues.
...)(well, Lynx aside ;) )
:)
You mean that no bugs where fixed in the last two months? Please, take a look at bugzilla and you will see...
Only one example: The recnte nightlys include the new ViewManager that fixed MANY CSS opacity and positioning bugs and improves performance.(Bug: #39621)
Mozilla is the best browser I know that run on all my boxes(Debian, FreeBSD, Win2k, Solaris,
And if you know a more standards compliant browser, please tell me.
> If I can't get the source, I can't trust.
At least you can get the Mozilla source code, may be you can ask M$ for the IE source... or AOL for the Netscape source... I wonder what they added/removed to Mozilla
Best regards
Uriel
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> I'm going to continue trying N6, because I like Mozilla and believe it can turn out good products,...
;)
Why don't just use Mozilla? it don't install AOL crap, and it's a lot more updated.
(and I can run it on my FreeBSD box
Best regards
Uriel
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Why wait to Netscape 6.1 if you can use Mozilla now?
;)
Without AOL crap of course
BTW: Mozilla have image loading control to kill all the banners!
Best regards
Uriel
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Please DON'T post Netscape bugs in Bugzilla!
:(
Bugzilla is already too spamed with Netscape bugs
Bugzilla is *only* for Mozilla bugs, please understand that Netscape is based on a *very old* version of Mozilla, and probably they even introduced more bugs in it. If you found a bug in NS test it on the last Mozilla Nightly before posting it to Bugzilla. Thanks!
Best regards
Uriel
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> The Opera browser is 100% W3C .ha rvard.edu/~dbaron/css/test/results
.php
The opera browser isn't 100% W3C compliant!
Some examples: http://css.nu/pointers/bugs.html#Opera3 5
http://www.people.fas
> Mozilla/NS 6.0
Mozilla IS NOT Netscape!!!
Please read this http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/in dex
Best regards
Uriel
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