meh. T-mobile's "4G" is over-rated. And the Samsung 4G LTE phone is old news. Single core, etc. Problem is, there's always a newer, better, faster product on the horizon.
Samsung will be unveiling their dual core phones in under a month at MWC.
HTC screen and speakers generally are subpar. Desire/Nexus one had a crap touch sensor, that had limited dual touch. Nexus One also had wonky capacitive buttons. Their newer phones like Desire HD are improved, but the screen and speakers are still shit.
meh. HTC hardware (screen, speakers) are subpar. Especially when compared to Galaxy S devices. And Samsung are going to unveil their dual core successor to the Galaxy S at MWC.
Nexus S is the best phone that you can get right now. It's also Google's phone, so you'll get updates the fastest.
I haven't signed up for the brute force attempt, and it most likely won't work. People aren't doing it to make the products of a company better, they're doing it to unlock the full potential of their hardware.
Thanks for the correct link, I saw the project recently, and had actually seen in from the page you linked. I thought I had the correct one, and assumed the server was down or something.
Meh, HTC Magic (G1 without keyboard) got an official 2.2.1 update. o_0
If honeycomb launches on a moto tab, (probably will) I'll consider buying one motorola android product - the honeycomb tab. If it's similar to Droid OG, Nexus One, or Nexus S it'll have a decent amount of dev support.
The locked bootloader helps them control what version of android you're using. You're stuck with however much support Motorola provide. If they decide that their shiny new Atrix will only be updated to Gingerbread, and Honeycomb, not Ice Cream, you can't do anything about it. If you want the newer features it provides, you have to upgrade.
The Geeks/hackers are a minority. Motorola probably see loosing their support an acceptable loss. Taking the example of Atrix again. It's a powerful device, with 1GB RAM. It'll be ahead of the curve for a while, and should be able to run versions J/K/L of android as well as Gingerbread/Honeycomb. But how can they then convince someone to upgrade from Atrix to Atrix 4G or w/e?
Locking the bootloader probably also reduce the number of bricked devices they see, lowering the repair costs.
If and when Google release a Nexus Tablet(or w/e) it'll be made by Motorola, because Google have partnered with them to develop Honeycomb using their hardware. Droid OG didn't have a locked bootloader, and was used by Google too. Xoom may be the same. If it's not, we'll have another Moto Tab manufactured by Motorola, marketed/released by Google.
Second, what part of "we're not abandoning a strategy that works" was not clear?
They're not abandoning it for their phones. Doesn't have to apply to Xoom too.
Root is not the issue. A locked bootloader is. With a locked bootloader, you're stuck with whatever version of android Motorola leave you with. If they decide that Atrix will only be updated to Gingerbread, and not Honeycomb/Icecream, you can't do anything about it. Unless someone cracks their 1024 bit RSA key... (very very very unlikely. Think billions of years of computation time.)
Google will probably want to release a tablet version of Nexus, and that is the device that they designed the system on. So, it'll be in conjunction with Motorola.
It'll be the Xoom, unless Motorola release two tablets. The Xoom, and whatever the Nexus tablet is.
Go for the Nexus S - they're the most dev friendly. You'll also find that HTC phones are also supported pretty well, even though they have a similarly draconian nandlock in place. It's just been cracked:)
The e-fuse has a 1024 bit RSA key. Good luck trying to brute force that.
But if you want to waste electricity, you can sign up for the efforts to brute force Motorola Milestone - their first phone to feature this draconian lockdown.
Hopefully, Xoom won't be the same. Andy Rubin said that Google are using a Motorola device to build honeycomb, and it's likely the Xoom. If it is, it won't be e-fused.
The main problem for android brand dilution is those whole bunch of crapdroid tablets that don't have market access, have crappy resistive screens, and slow processors.
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meh. T-mobile's "4G" is over-rated. And the Samsung 4G LTE phone is old news. Single core, etc. Problem is, there's always a newer, better, faster product on the horizon.
Samsung will be unveiling their dual core phones in under a month at MWC.
HTC screen and speakers generally are subpar. Desire/Nexus one had a crap touch sensor, that had limited dual touch. Nexus One also had wonky capacitive buttons. Their newer phones like Desire HD are improved, but the screen and speakers are still shit.
I know that. I said You'll also find - i.e. if you don't get a Nexus S, but get a HTC phone.
meh. HTC hardware (screen, speakers) are subpar. Especially when compared to Galaxy S devices. And Samsung are going to unveil their dual core successor to the Galaxy S at MWC.
Nexus S is the best phone that you can get right now. It's also Google's phone, so you'll get updates the fastest.
I haven't signed up for the brute force attempt, and it most likely won't work. People aren't doing it to make the products of a company better, they're doing it to unlock the full potential of their hardware.
Samsung are opening up to some of the opensource community, and the signs are good :-)
Mod parent up.
Thanks for the correct link, I saw the project recently, and had actually seen in from the page you linked. I thought I had the correct one, and assumed the server was down or something.
Meh, HTC Magic (G1 without keyboard) got an official 2.2.1 update. o_0
If honeycomb launches on a moto tab, (probably will) I'll consider buying one motorola android product - the honeycomb tab. If it's similar to Droid OG, Nexus One, or Nexus S it'll have a decent amount of dev support.
Urgh. Hit submit instead of Continue Editing. I repeat myself a bit, but it seems coherent enough.
The locked bootloader helps them control what version of android you're using. You're stuck with however much support Motorola provide. If they decide that their shiny new Atrix will only be updated to Gingerbread, and Honeycomb, not Ice Cream, you can't do anything about it. If you want the newer features it provides, you have to upgrade.
The Geeks/hackers are a minority. Motorola probably see loosing their support an acceptable loss. Taking the example of Atrix again. It's a powerful device, with 1GB RAM. It'll be ahead of the curve for a while, and should be able to run versions J/K/L of android as well as Gingerbread/Honeycomb. But how can they then convince someone to upgrade from Atrix to Atrix 4G or w/e?
Locking the bootloader probably also reduce the number of bricked devices they see, lowering the repair costs.
If and when Google release a Nexus Tablet(or w/e) it'll be made by Motorola, because Google have partnered with them to develop Honeycomb using their hardware. Droid OG didn't have a locked bootloader, and was used by Google too. Xoom may be the same. If it's not, we'll have another Moto Tab manufactured by Motorola, marketed/released by Google.
Second, what part of "we're not abandoning a strategy that works" was not clear?
They're not abandoning it for their phones. Doesn't have to apply to Xoom too.
Root isn't even needed If you're still on 2.1, you can flash unsigned update.zip files on Galaxy S 2.1 using recovery 2e
Root is not the issue. A locked bootloader is. With a locked bootloader, you're stuck with whatever version of android Motorola leave you with. If they decide that Atrix will only be updated to Gingerbread, and not Honeycomb/Icecream, you can't do anything about it. Unless someone cracks their 1024 bit RSA key... (very very very unlikely. Think billions of years of computation time.)
Nexus S
It'll be the Xoom, unless Motorola release two tablets. The Xoom, and whatever the Nexus tablet is.
A locked bootloader is - for me anyway - unacceptable, hopefully they don't half ass their new policy on it: http://moto.ly/bootload
Propitiatory drivers and Samsung messing around with the code are the main problems
Go for the Nexus S - they're the most dev friendly. You'll also find that HTC phones are also supported pretty well, even though they have a similarly draconian nandlock in place. It's just been cracked :)
But if you want to waste electricity, you can sign up for the efforts to brute force Motorola Milestone - their first phone to feature this draconian lockdown.
While their froyo rollout in America has been delayed, and far from smooth in Europe, that thread you linked to is complete utter bullshit.
Hopefully, Xoom won't be the same. Andy Rubin said that Google are using a Motorola device to build honeycomb, and it's likely the Xoom. If it is, it won't be e-fused.
The main problem for android brand dilution is those whole bunch of crapdroid tablets that don't have market access, have crappy resistive screens, and slow processors.
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Firebug is far more comprehensive. The "built-in Inspector thing" suffices, but it can't hold a candle to firebug
PowerVR 435* /. needs an edit feature.