The name isn't the problem. There wasn't significant confusion between the Windows CE and 95/98 or Windows Mobile and XP/7. The problem now is the blurring of lines in the hardware and the user interface. You have 10" tablets with a UI that looks and feels exactly like the desktop UI (only... y'know, useable 'cause it's hard to "swipe" with a mouse). Of course people are going to assume you can use the same software on both.
If you're under investigation for workplace misconduct or misuse of company proprietary information, you're likely on the way out anyhow. I didn't RTFA or RTFB, but would assume it's meant to make it easier for the employer to carry out an investigation, meaning some means to force compliance around the existing subpoena laws. I can just see this becoming a common practice for people moving on to new jobs. "Oh, moving on? Well time for the standard termination investigation. We'll need your facebook and email passwords."
Tacked on to a bill preventing employers from asking for access to these accounts in interviews is just salt in the wound. Here's hoping somebody comes to there senses.
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"Demonizing" might be harsh, but the tone of the summary and a fair deal of the subsequent discussion is that Tesla is taking away from education. Come on... "Let Them Eat Teslas"...?
I'm not arguing that education loans should have lower interest rates - just pointing out that the submitter (and maybe the article, but who RTFAs anyway) is specifically picking on Tesla when his beef is with education. Hell, I could walk down to the Subaru dealership and get at worst a 2.9% rate loan with no money down. In any case, I don't think you and I really have differing opinions on the interest rates for school loans and car loans because you are spot on about the investment risk and options in the event of default.
However, I stand by my main point that this summary is written just to rile up the masses.
Nobody here is demonizing Tesla. We are demonizing the government. It is not Tesla's responsibility to make sure tax dollars are spent wisely.
The only federal government involvement here is a $7500 tax credit. This is the same type of credit that's been around for hybrid vehicles for years. You may not agree with them - I don't - but enough people have decided they're worthwhile, so they stick around. Sales tax exemption and state tax credits are the state's issues, write your (much more local) state legislator about those. I know I'd pay full sales tax. TFS is making it sound like everybody's going to run out and get a check from Uncle Sam for $15k and dodge sales tax just for buying a Tesla, but that's a stretch at best and - depending on the tax credit situations in Washington and New Jersey - a outright lie at worst.
Anyhow, I think it's important to talk about the costs of education. People talk about education loans these days as if they're mandatory - ignoring options like scholarships, grants, less expensive school choices, or part time work during college. But this Tesla thing is just an attention grab.
I think it's more like a bunch of guys on/. clogging up the tubes with poor analogies....
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I also have quite favorable loan terms on my house - better than my girlfriend has on her student loans. I'm not going to go pound on my credit union's door and demand social justice. The problem is with the education loans, not the home or car loans. Demonizing Tesla or the auto industry for striving to provide a means of buying their products is asinine and childish.
Education finance has some serious issues that need to be addressed. We aren't going to solve them by crying about auto loans. This entire discussion is flamebait - just fishing for angry rants.
I was into the indie scene back before it was cool, man. We'd sit on the front stoop smoking american spirits with a bunch of PBRs and playing Basilica (don't ask, you haven't heard about it) on a 13" black and white television way back in '04.
Several of the first links on a google search for "average starting salary out of college": CNN was the particular one I clicked, but the same number was at a several major news websites. If you're in an area where teachers make the best starting salary out of college, I think you should expand your job search to other regions...
Excellent point on the portfolio though, if you're able to point at several existing projects you've done or contributed to in a major way, then to hell with college and the degree. Of course, your employers seem to be after competent people with years of experience and can't break $35k per year...
2005 was a much different job market than now, sure I'll give you that. It *sucks* for somebody who graduated any time between 2008 and now. What I don't understand is how people rack up that much in student loans. $60k would get a four year degree at the nearest public university, *including* high-priced on-campus room and board. A part time job and scholarships can offset much, if not all, of that cost.
I'm not going to claim that people aren't getting themselves into shitty debt situations with their student loans, it's just not necessary with some extra work and planning in most cases.
I'm not arguing the cost/benefit ratio isn't dropping at a worrying rate, you are spot on in what you're saying. I got my degree in 05, so again, a different job market than now for my anecdotes.
I'm just arguing the hyperbole in GP's post. According to CNN, the average starting salary for a new grad is ~$45k - a far cry from the $12/hour he's claiming. As I said, we absolutely need to keep an eye on education costs and keeping our debt under control, but calling the current situation indentured servitude is ridiculous.
Completing school with crushing debt and no job prospects is not "the new norm" - that's either being woefully unlucky or simply doing it wrong. I'm not trying to say student debt isn't burdensome - but I honestly know nobody in the situation you describe. They all have reasonable jobs (40k, 50k, or more), live on their own, and can afford their payments and lifestyle. Those I know with the highest debt had made the conscious decision to borrow more for time abroad knowing they'd be paying it back down the road (none regret this decision).
Education cost is definitely something we need to keep an eye on, and student loan burden is definitely growing - but to equate going to college with indentured servitude is simply wrong.
If all you care about is who is at fault, God already took full responsibility. Speaking through his prophet Douglas Adams: "We apologize for the inconvenience."
Man, all this talk about faith when the facts are right there in front of our noses...
why intelligent, critical thinking adults choose to believe in god(s).
...because they do. When people lack understanding, they'll seek it. There are areas that current science can't or won't address, so belief systems will fill in the blanks (for better or worse). I consider religion a social science - constructs people invent to explain their place in the world. I think it's fascinating and love learning about people's beliefs.
For starters, I don't want to characterize you in any way, your post on asking about beliefs just seemed a good spot to bring this up: Too often when somebody is asking about another's belief (be it political, religious, computerist, etc), it's done in a cringingly awkward way that's blatantly meant to provoke a response or demean them. There's an attitude of smug superiority that seems more prevalent (in my biased observations) amongst athiests, democrats, and Linux users where they pretend to want to know more, but it's a thinly concealed attack. For full disclosure - I'm an agnostic linux user who voted democrat last time around (and I'm pretty sure I have a big ego) - so take this whole rant with a grain of salt and a sense of humor.
Man, I'm replying to you all over the place today! Pleased to meet ya!
Actually, I think a fundamental tenet of agnosticism is not giving a fuck. There are a whole lot of belief systems out there, and just about any of them can be interpreted in a way that doesn't conflict with our currently understood observable view of the universe. Could some higher intelligence have set the machinations of the universe in motion? Sure why not, the universe exists after all - so there's some modicum of evidence. Does it mean I'm going to worship them and give thanks for my breakfast cereal? No, not really. Does it impact my life if somebody else wants to thank a hypothetical supreme being for gifting them their cheerios? Not in the least. Hell, I'll even join them if they're dining with me - thank you O Great General Mills for this feast upon which we dine - etcetc. It does me no harm, and provided they know where I stand on the matter it helps me keep good relationships.
You aren't going to turn somebody away from their beliefs by calling them foolish and marginalizing them. All you'll manage to do is keep them from working with you in areas where you could have had common ground.
On the bright side, I do love the irony of athiests letting themselves get drawn into a holy war...
But, there will surely be a salvage company in a nearby town with the tools to break through the door. GG(g?)P's most valid point is that fortifications aren't going to hold unless you can keep people on the outside from dismantling them. Somehow I doubt the guys inside are going to start shooting and they sure as heck are not going to be getting relieved by an outside force. Give it a day or two, and this will be resolved. If I were a betting man I'd say the guys inside just open the door before it goes too much further.
I saw that a bit later on. Still not sure how to get to those links from the main page... ? Anyhow, it's a damn near perfect plan for me. Makes me curious how many minutes most people use per month.
I'm on that very plan. I don't have a certain answer for you, but I *believe* if you're not on the T-Mobile network itself, you'll still be able to text and talk, but data won't work. This is from what I recall when I set up my plan. I know for certain I can talk and text off of T-mobile's network without any added costs, but I've never really tried to use data off-network.
It's a great deal if it works out, but I worry you're out of luck on this one.
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The name isn't the problem. There wasn't significant confusion between the Windows CE and 95/98 or Windows Mobile and XP/7. The problem now is the blurring of lines in the hardware and the user interface. You have 10" tablets with a UI that looks and feels exactly like the desktop UI (only... y'know, useable 'cause it's hard to "swipe" with a mouse). Of course people are going to assume you can use the same software on both.
God I hate Metro...
So I wonder what in the 9 levels of hell you're doing to make it run so badly.
I think he made the terrible mistake of not installing a custom shell right off the bat. The gall of some people...
If you're under investigation for workplace misconduct or misuse of company proprietary information, you're likely on the way out anyhow. I didn't RTFA or RTFB, but would assume it's meant to make it easier for the employer to carry out an investigation, meaning some means to force compliance around the existing subpoena laws. I can just see this becoming a common practice for people moving on to new jobs. "Oh, moving on? Well time for the standard termination investigation. We'll need your facebook and email passwords."
Tacked on to a bill preventing employers from asking for access to these accounts in interviews is just salt in the wound. Here's hoping somebody comes to there senses.
I'm not arguing that education loans should have lower interest rates - just pointing out that the submitter (and maybe the article, but who RTFAs anyway) is specifically picking on Tesla when his beef is with education. Hell, I could walk down to the Subaru dealership and get at worst a 2.9% rate loan with no money down. In any case, I don't think you and I really have differing opinions on the interest rates for school loans and car loans because you are spot on about the investment risk and options in the event of default.
However, I stand by my main point that this summary is written just to rile up the masses.
Nobody here is demonizing Tesla. We are demonizing the government. It is not Tesla's responsibility to make sure tax dollars are spent wisely.
The only federal government involvement here is a $7500 tax credit. This is the same type of credit that's been around for hybrid vehicles for years. You may not agree with them - I don't - but enough people have decided they're worthwhile, so they stick around. Sales tax exemption and state tax credits are the state's issues, write your (much more local) state legislator about those. I know I'd pay full sales tax. TFS is making it sound like everybody's going to run out and get a check from Uncle Sam for $15k and dodge sales tax just for buying a Tesla, but that's a stretch at best and - depending on the tax credit situations in Washington and New Jersey - a outright lie at worst.
Anyhow, I think it's important to talk about the costs of education. People talk about education loans these days as if they're mandatory - ignoring options like scholarships, grants, less expensive school choices, or part time work during college. But this Tesla thing is just an attention grab.
I think it's more like a bunch of guys on /. clogging up the tubes with poor analogies....
I also have quite favorable loan terms on my house - better than my girlfriend has on her student loans. I'm not going to go pound on my credit union's door and demand social justice. The problem is with the education loans, not the home or car loans. Demonizing Tesla or the auto industry for striving to provide a means of buying their products is asinine and childish.
Education finance has some serious issues that need to be addressed. We aren't going to solve them by crying about auto loans. This entire discussion is flamebait - just fishing for angry rants.
...or one person pretending to text on their phone and taking a picture. The scenario you describe is a people problem, not a technology problem.
This is /. - the only thing we need to say to visitors is "Who let you into the basement?!"
Your tinfoil hat is leaking again - you let the googles convince you to post on /. using your REAL login name!
(x) It has no impact on political robo-calls, which are the vast majority of robo-calls made and are unsurprisingly, completely legal.
Be fair, I used to play the *crap* out of BurgerTime on my 99/4a!
...I knew I should have googled the name I made up before posting.
I was into the indie scene back before it was cool, man. We'd sit on the front stoop smoking american spirits with a bunch of PBRs and playing Basilica (don't ask, you haven't heard about it) on a 13" black and white television way back in '04.
Several of the first links on a google search for "average starting salary out of college": CNN was the particular one I clicked, but the same number was at a several major news websites. If you're in an area where teachers make the best starting salary out of college, I think you should expand your job search to other regions...
Excellent point on the portfolio though, if you're able to point at several existing projects you've done or contributed to in a major way, then to hell with college and the degree. Of course, your employers seem to be after competent people with years of experience and can't break $35k per year...
2005 was a much different job market than now, sure I'll give you that. It *sucks* for somebody who graduated any time between 2008 and now. What I don't understand is how people rack up that much in student loans. $60k would get a four year degree at the nearest public university, *including* high-priced on-campus room and board. A part time job and scholarships can offset much, if not all, of that cost.
I'm not going to claim that people aren't getting themselves into shitty debt situations with their student loans, it's just not necessary with some extra work and planning in most cases.
I'm not arguing the cost/benefit ratio isn't dropping at a worrying rate, you are spot on in what you're saying. I got my degree in 05, so again, a different job market than now for my anecdotes.
I'm just arguing the hyperbole in GP's post. According to CNN, the average starting salary for a new grad is ~$45k - a far cry from the $12/hour he's claiming. As I said, we absolutely need to keep an eye on education costs and keeping our debt under control, but calling the current situation indentured servitude is ridiculous.
Completing school with crushing debt and no job prospects is not "the new norm" - that's either being woefully unlucky or simply doing it wrong. I'm not trying to say student debt isn't burdensome - but I honestly know nobody in the situation you describe. They all have reasonable jobs (40k, 50k, or more), live on their own, and can afford their payments and lifestyle. Those I know with the highest debt had made the conscious decision to borrow more for time abroad knowing they'd be paying it back down the road (none regret this decision).
Education cost is definitely something we need to keep an eye on, and student loan burden is definitely growing - but to equate going to college with indentured servitude is simply wrong.
Its a brand of shoes for hipsters
Not anymore - this study is surely going to make the athiest brand too cool.
If all you care about is who is at fault, God already took full responsibility. Speaking through his prophet Douglas Adams: "We apologize for the inconvenience."
Man, all this talk about faith when the facts are right there in front of our noses...
why intelligent, critical thinking adults choose to believe in god(s).
...because they do. When people lack understanding, they'll seek it. There are areas that current science can't or won't address, so belief systems will fill in the blanks (for better or worse). I consider religion a social science - constructs people invent to explain their place in the world. I think it's fascinating and love learning about people's beliefs.
For starters, I don't want to characterize you in any way, your post on asking about beliefs just seemed a good spot to bring this up: Too often when somebody is asking about another's belief (be it political, religious, computerist, etc), it's done in a cringingly awkward way that's blatantly meant to provoke a response or demean them. There's an attitude of smug superiority that seems more prevalent (in my biased observations) amongst athiests, democrats, and Linux users where they pretend to want to know more, but it's a thinly concealed attack. For full disclosure - I'm an agnostic linux user who voted democrat last time around (and I'm pretty sure I have a big ego) - so take this whole rant with a grain of salt and a sense of humor.
Man, I'm replying to you all over the place today! Pleased to meet ya!
No man, your refrigerator is haunted. You should have cleaned it out long ago, but now it's too late. The Gods are angry with you.
Actually, I think a fundamental tenet of agnosticism is not giving a fuck. There are a whole lot of belief systems out there, and just about any of them can be interpreted in a way that doesn't conflict with our currently understood observable view of the universe. Could some higher intelligence have set the machinations of the universe in motion? Sure why not, the universe exists after all - so there's some modicum of evidence. Does it mean I'm going to worship them and give thanks for my breakfast cereal? No, not really. Does it impact my life if somebody else wants to thank a hypothetical supreme being for gifting them their cheerios? Not in the least. Hell, I'll even join them if they're dining with me - thank you O Great General Mills for this feast upon which we dine - etcetc. It does me no harm, and provided they know where I stand on the matter it helps me keep good relationships.
You aren't going to turn somebody away from their beliefs by calling them foolish and marginalizing them. All you'll manage to do is keep them from working with you in areas where you could have had common ground.
On the bright side, I do love the irony of athiests letting themselves get drawn into a holy war...
But, there will surely be a salvage company in a nearby town with the tools to break through the door. GG(g?)P's most valid point is that fortifications aren't going to hold unless you can keep people on the outside from dismantling them. Somehow I doubt the guys inside are going to start shooting and they sure as heck are not going to be getting relieved by an outside force. Give it a day or two, and this will be resolved. If I were a betting man I'd say the guys inside just open the door before it goes too much further.
I saw that a bit later on. Still not sure how to get to those links from the main page... ? Anyhow, it's a damn near perfect plan for me. Makes me curious how many minutes most people use per month.
I'm on that very plan. I don't have a certain answer for you, but I *believe* if you're not on the T-Mobile network itself, you'll still be able to text and talk, but data won't work. This is from what I recall when I set up my plan. I know for certain I can talk and text off of T-mobile's network without any added costs, but I've never really tried to use data off-network.
It's a great deal if it works out, but I worry you're out of luck on this one.