Thanks, this was excessive, politically incorrect, insightful, funny, biased and humane. Refreshing. One of the best Slashdot stories in recent memory.
In his WWW trilogy, Robert J. Sawyer envisions a chimp and an orangutan based in different institutions communicating with each other on skype with sign language. In the fictional reconstruction, that would have been the first inter-species remote communication in history. This thing seems pretty related, I would dare say "inspired", at least.
I cannot speak for the upcoming Transformer Prime, but its predecessor TF101 can be rooted extremely easily (no time wasted here). OTA updates keep working and the rooting can easily be undone (actually, the device gets automatically un-rooted every time you do an OTA update). The super simple rooting procedure is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303 You basically just download a jar to your computer, connect the tablet via USB and follow the instructions on screen. It takes less than 5 minutes. I cannot guarantee that it does not invalidate the warranty, but I would say it doesn't.
Fine, in a world of reasonable people we could go without laws at all, and I am generally against the proliferation of little and particular laws - one of the biggest problems of my Country, if you ask me. Fact is that what we think is not too important, given that it looks like a judge has just deliberated against our idea.
As for the distinction between crime and "civil wrong", I just used the wrong word because I am not a native speaker. Let's call them "unlawful acts", if you prefer.
I will try to rephrase my thoughts, which I seem not to be able to explain.
I do not think that linking to _anything_ is a crime, but is in undeniable that it can make it easy for people who want it to commit a crime. I don't know what's the correct English wording for it, but I think that it is not wrong to say that in such cases they can be considered "accessory to a crime". I also don't like the idea that governments or judges can decide what a search engine can link or not.
For these reasons, I think that it would be reasonable for search engines to be protected by explicit laws that free them of responsibility on these cases. If some content is illegal, then the source of the content should be liable for that, and if the use is illegal than the user should be liable for that, while in no case the search engine should be involved in it. Liability on the source and on the user are already accounted for by many legal systems, but what is generally missing is something protecting the search engines, which become involved in this thing between the medium that we use to locate and use possibly problematic data, and being them the only thing shared between the users and the sources, they are an easy target to bring down when authorities try to limit access to such data.
I agree on that - and if you had read my post until the end maybe you would have understood it too.
But still, if according to a law facilitating illegal behaviors is unlawful (as is the case in Italy, but I guess many other countries have similar articles in their body of laws), then they are breaking the law. And the idea that is okay to break the law as far as I don't mind it, seems a little bit idiotic to me, no less than having a judge deciding what a search engine can or can't index.
So, unless we claim that they are above the law, which I wouldn't recommend as a strategy, maybe it would be advisable to have laws that make $you responsible for what you search, as opposed to $search_providers responsible for what they provide, index or cache.
I agree with the fact that, in these cases, search engines could just stop providing some service in that specific Country. In countries with a democracy, such as Italy (well, ok, more or less...), hopefully the people will uprise and have their representatives to something about it.
Still, the problem is more general than that, and I would like to raise the point just for the sake of discussion. Consider pedo-pornography, which is a crime in Italy as it is in many other countries as far as I know. In that case, we all agree that search engine should do their best to avoid promoting links with pedo-pornographic material, since we all agree that it is a bad thing and we don't want them to be facilitators of the crime. But downloading copyrighted material without the consent of the copyright holder is a crime too, so isn't it reasonable that search engines should behave similarly, and do whatever they can to avoid helping those who are trying to break the law?
I think that, in the end, it is all a matter of subjective perception of the involved crime. Since many of us don't see downloading copyrighted material as a crime, we expect things to be handled differently in that case. But from the point of view of law enforcement, publishing a link to a movie for illegal download is no different than pointing users to readily available pedo-pornographic material, as in both cases the search engine is an accomplice in unlawful act.
Isn't this something that we should consider, or we accept that, as far as information retrieval is involved, we want the "law of the demand" to be the strongest, and we accept that our search engines retrieve anything that we ask for? In this case, I think that we need some laws to shift the responsibility of searching and retrieving on the end user, and only consider the search engine as a medium with no responsibility whatsoever.
Right, do I have to kill someone before I can have an opinion about murder?
I may not be using SNs directly, but as you can imagine I am surrounded by people using and abusing them, so I have plenty of observation data.
I am not saying that SNing is bad or evil, and I am sure that there are many ways in which it can be useful. Yet it is also true that all the things that you just named (organizing a BBQ, getting in touch with far friends, getting invites to selected events) were also possible before SN existed, and they were not that more inconvenient (even though centralizing all these things in just one place makes things more compact). As I see it, the main difference is just that before SN you had to *choose* who your guests would be.
You know, it makes you feel a little special when someone invites "you" to some event, instead of being invited just because "you read my wall". No?
Foreword: I am not taking part in any social network (well, if you exclude LinkedIn but I am a completely passive user also in that case).
From the outside, social networking is about showing off connections and getting the illusion of being in touch with people that, in the real world, wouldn't give a damn of you. All those people telling you their private business, they would never talk with you if they had to call you on the phone or send you an email.
On the other hand, they are still cool for getting in touch with old friends, even though generally these contacts stay very superficial. A global directory of people would be enough to achieve the same goal, without all the fanfare.
And as far as information is concerned, they are a convenient way of generating news streams without the hassle of putting a web page or an RSS feed, so they have allowed also people that don't have anything interesting to say to let the world know about it.
> Twitter resembles an information-sharing hub rather than a social network, with the top generators garnering huge follower tallies but not following their content consumers in return
Yeah, there you go.
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No we just have it slightly later on the 31st of april
Jeees, so there are countries where April has 31 days. The world is really a crazy place.
By the way, like that we lose the slash as a decimal separator. I still prefer to wait until they add two months to the calendar.
I respect you guys and gals, but you can't say you have seen the worst of all until you have seen "the card player" by Dario Argento.To make it short, the police is chasing a serial killer who likes to challenge the police to a video poker game before killing his victims. If the police loses, he kills them. The Italian policemen, superior in skill to anyone else in the world, decide to beat the killer at his own game by "hiring" a kid found in a bar who allegedly is a video-poker champion.
No need to say it, the movie is full of completely inconsequential computer jargon, the interfaces are lovely and the nerds that try to track down the killer are too good to be true. Calling it a cliché would be an understatement, you don't want to die without having seen it.
BTW, thanks for the CSI visual basic thing, I've always felt like there was something missing in my life...
It could be a good way of getting only legitimate cookies.
Content-providers will be somehow forced to get rid of all hosted content (banners, flash videos, embedded pages and whatever) that silently drops cookies into my browser, as if they won't do so the users will be prompted with 50 cookie requests whenever they are visiting their pages, and they will quickly browse to fresher waters. They will have to chose other forms of advertisement that do not violate my privacy.
They (the content providers) would also be forced to be more considerate about the usage of cookies, like pushing them to your machine only after log-in. Accepting every now and then a cookie from the sites that I choose to visit wouldn't seem such a big hassle to me.
On the other hand, I do not like the idea of having laws for everything, I would rather let the responsibility on the users. If they are sensitive about their privacy, they should just set their cookie policy to "always ask" and run away from sites that try to drop cookie bombs on their machines. (Even though, at the rate cookies are delivered on almost every big-content page nowadays, this strategy would soon leave them with very few places to go...)
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Thanks, this was excessive, politically incorrect, insightful, funny, biased and humane. Refreshing. One of the best Slashdot stories in recent memory.
In his WWW trilogy, Robert J. Sawyer envisions a chimp and an orangutan based in different institutions communicating with each other on skype with sign language. In the fictional reconstruction, that would have been the first inter-species remote communication in history. This thing seems pretty related, I would dare say "inspired", at least.
I cannot speak for the upcoming Transformer Prime, but its predecessor TF101 can be rooted extremely easily (no time wasted here).
OTA updates keep working and the rooting can easily be undone (actually, the device gets automatically un-rooted every time you do an OTA update).
The super simple rooting procedure is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303
You basically just download a jar to your computer, connect the tablet via USB and follow the instructions on screen. It takes less than 5 minutes. I cannot guarantee that it does not invalidate the warranty, but I would say it doesn't.
Fine, in a world of reasonable people we could go without laws at all, and I am generally against the proliferation of little and particular laws - one of the biggest problems of my Country, if you ask me. Fact is that what we think is not too important, given that it looks like a judge has just deliberated against our idea.
As for the distinction between crime and "civil wrong", I just used the wrong word because I am not a native speaker. Let's call them "unlawful acts", if you prefer.
I will try to rephrase my thoughts, which I seem not to be able to explain.
I do not think that linking to _anything_ is a crime, but is in undeniable that it can make it easy for people who want it to commit a crime. I don't know what's the correct English wording for it, but I think that it is not wrong to say that in such cases they can be considered "accessory to a crime". I also don't like the idea that governments or judges can decide what a search engine can link or not.
For these reasons, I think that it would be reasonable for search engines to be protected by explicit laws that free them of responsibility on these cases. If some content is illegal, then the source of the content should be liable for that, and if the use is illegal than the user should be liable for that, while in no case the search engine should be involved in it. Liability on the source and on the user are already accounted for by many legal systems, but what is generally missing is something protecting the search engines, which become involved in this thing between the medium that we use to locate and use possibly problematic data, and being them the only thing shared between the users and the sources, they are an easy target to bring down when authorities try to limit access to such data.
I agree on that - and if you had read my post until the end maybe you would have understood it too.
But still, if according to a law facilitating illegal behaviors is unlawful (as is the case in Italy, but I guess many other countries have similar articles in their body of laws), then they are breaking the law. And the idea that is okay to break the law as far as I don't mind it, seems a little bit idiotic to me, no less than having a judge deciding what a search engine can or can't index.
So, unless we claim that they are above the law, which I wouldn't recommend as a strategy, maybe it would be advisable to have laws that make $you responsible for what you search, as opposed to $search_providers responsible for what they provide, index or cache.
I agree with the fact that, in these cases, search engines could just stop providing some service in that specific Country. In countries with a democracy, such as Italy (well, ok, more or less...), hopefully the people will uprise and have their representatives to something about it.
Still, the problem is more general than that, and I would like to raise the point just for the sake of discussion. Consider pedo-pornography, which is a crime in Italy as it is in many other countries as far as I know. In that case, we all agree that search engine should do their best to avoid promoting links with pedo-pornographic material, since we all agree that it is a bad thing and we don't want them to be facilitators of the crime. But downloading copyrighted material without the consent of the copyright holder is a crime too, so isn't it reasonable that search engines should behave similarly, and do whatever they can to avoid helping those who are trying to break the law?
I think that, in the end, it is all a matter of subjective perception of the involved crime. Since many of us don't see downloading copyrighted material as a crime, we expect things to be handled differently in that case. But from the point of view of law enforcement, publishing a link to a movie for illegal download is no different than pointing users to readily available pedo-pornographic material, as in both cases the search engine is an accomplice in unlawful act.
Isn't this something that we should consider, or we accept that, as far as information retrieval is involved, we want the "law of the demand" to be the strongest, and we accept that our search engines retrieve anything that we ask for? In this case, I think that we need some laws to shift the responsibility of searching and retrieving on the end user, and only consider the search engine as a medium with no responsibility whatsoever.
> Yet you still feel qualified to comment?
Right, do I have to kill someone before I can have an opinion about murder?
I may not be using SNs directly, but as you can imagine I am surrounded by people using and abusing them, so I have plenty of observation data.
I am not saying that SNing is bad or evil, and I am sure that there are many ways in which it can be useful. Yet it is also true that all the things that you just named (organizing a BBQ, getting in touch with far friends, getting invites to selected events) were also possible before SN existed, and they were not that more inconvenient (even though centralizing all these things in just one place makes things more compact). As I see it, the main difference is just that before SN you had to *choose* who your guests would be.
You know, it makes you feel a little special when someone invites "you" to some event, instead of being invited just because "you read my wall". No?
Foreword: I am not taking part in any social network (well, if you exclude LinkedIn but I am a completely passive user also in that case).
From the outside, social networking is about showing off connections and getting the illusion of being in touch with people that, in the real world, wouldn't give a damn of you. All those people telling you their private business, they would never talk with you if they had to call you on the phone or send you an email.
On the other hand, they are still cool for getting in touch with old friends, even though generally these contacts stay very superficial. A global directory of people would be enough to achieve the same goal, without all the fanfare.
And as far as information is concerned, they are a convenient way of generating news streams without the hassle of putting a web page or an RSS feed, so they have allowed also people that don't have anything interesting to say to let the world know about it.
> Twitter resembles an information-sharing hub rather than a social network, with the top generators garnering huge follower tallies but not following their content consumers in return
Yeah, there you go.
Well, while waiting I try to keep productive by writing groundbreaking and truth revealing comments here on /.
No we just have it slightly later on the 31st of april
Jeees, so there are countries where April has 31 days. The world is really a crazy place. By the way, like that we lose the slash as a decimal separator. I still prefer to wait until they add two months to the calendar.
We wait for it every year, yet it never comes. That's true love.
And it's not even a prime... just another blunt day.
I respect you guys and gals, but you can't say you have seen the worst of all until you have seen "the card player" by Dario Argento.To make it short, the police is chasing a serial killer who likes to challenge the police to a video poker game before killing his victims. If the police loses, he kills them. The Italian policemen, superior in skill to anyone else in the world, decide to beat the killer at his own game by "hiring" a kid found in a bar who allegedly is a video-poker champion.
No need to say it, the movie is full of completely inconsequential computer jargon, the interfaces are lovely and the nerds that try to track down the killer are too good to be true. Calling it a cliché would be an understatement, you don't want to die without having seen it.
BTW, thanks for the CSI visual basic thing, I've always felt like there was something missing in my life...
It could be a good way of getting only legitimate cookies. Content-providers will be somehow forced to get rid of all hosted content (banners, flash videos, embedded pages and whatever) that silently drops cookies into my browser, as if they won't do so the users will be prompted with 50 cookie requests whenever they are visiting their pages, and they will quickly browse to fresher waters. They will have to chose other forms of advertisement that do not violate my privacy. They (the content providers) would also be forced to be more considerate about the usage of cookies, like pushing them to your machine only after log-in. Accepting every now and then a cookie from the sites that I choose to visit wouldn't seem such a big hassle to me. On the other hand, I do not like the idea of having laws for everything, I would rather let the responsibility on the users. If they are sensitive about their privacy, they should just set their cookie policy to "always ask" and run away from sites that try to drop cookie bombs on their machines. (Even though, at the rate cookies are delivered on almost every big-content page nowadays, this strategy would soon leave them with very few places to go...)