I was hoping to spur ideas. Just imagine (as in reply) would could be done with a bi-directional high-bandwidth link dedicated to on-demand video and media delivery. The funding comes from wherever, a big company, a new company, or perhaps a spin-off. More importantly, what do you think?
Rather, the first real network T.V. I can't wait until I can do everything over the "E.N." (New acronym: Entertainment Network?). Imagine: broadcast movies to relatives, listen to music, watch old T.V. shows, even; shift the movie theater to the home (stop the damned candy monopoly!).
It is very unfortunate that this huge piece of computer history is being sold. It should be in a museum, perhaps in the Smithsonian. I hope that the buyer is willing to donate it to a museum.
And UNIX is invunerable? I beg to differ! GO take a look at the Bugtrq Archives and tell me how secure UNIX is! Hmm?
If you are going to make a virus, why can't it be non-destructive? How about, "Your computer has proved to be vunerable by exploiting this library, please report it to the nearest computer-security professional."
Assuming from your the tone and thoughts presented in your e-mail message, I assume that you do not work in a professional office envronment.
The job of the IT department is to remove as much worry and technical difficulty from the computer for the user. Many workers just view their machines as appliances, and rightfully so: would you rather your doctor be concerned about your health or the health of his computer?
Your comment yields nothing but the same blind teen-age rage that is so common between the Ford tire-slashing Chevy goons, and the Chevy muffler-stuffing Ford twits that drive around rural USA evangilizing a piece of machinery.
It is unfortuante that this group of 3li3t3 d00dz (?) takes pride in smashing other's prosperity. It is unfortunate that they are not using their obvious software talents for the greater good (as I assume by hating Microsoft, you are a free software advocate). It is unfortunate that you do not see that it tarnishes the already battered image of the internet community and people for free software.
Cars and computers are just tools. Do not view them more than you would view the screw-driver you used to tighten the chasis.
A very good point to make. People often forget how important it is to at least present yourself well. People *screaming* and *flaming* about RedHat, Microsoft, or anything else they don't like actually tarnishes the image of the object they are arguing for.
1. The open-source movement parallels the 1960's and early 1970's free-love environment. The stage was set for this explosive event to happen: the ease of source sharing on a newly evolving internet, the kindling; a set of eager and energetic bright young programmers, the fuel; and a the GNU/Linux platform to use as a foundation, the spark. What a nice little fire we have now?
Unfortunatly or fortunatly, we are dipping far into the pool of liberalism today, as people did in the 1960's. Everything is set now to swing the other way. Just as STD's, buisness school, and age ended the free-love period: money and timeless conservative wisdom will bring opensource to market and open-source to age.
2. RedHat is good. People who pay to get coded are good. To draw from a study (which I do not have a proper reference to) which I read about way back in Psychology class: when the economy is richer charity is more popular. If writing free software is charity, than doing more buisness is better for it.
Isn't it strange how Intel can have a run-away sales hit like the Celeron to do nothing but stamp it out for, "our protection."
It is odd to think that if we were a small chips manufacturer that had a hit like the Celeron, it would be our bread-and-butter: Intel can afford to just change the line in order to keep people in their "correct processor class."
I wonder what the margin is that they make on each type of processor? I would venture their net profit on two 370 Celerons is about 1/4 of the net profit they make on a Pentium III-- or maybe 1/6 of the profit on a Xeon III sale.
A couple people have written in asking how to do a restore opereration with "restore" (the companion program to dump). By far the easiest way is to do:
# restore -i/dev/st0
(where 0 is your tape drive number)
However, If you have multiple filesystems on a single tape (like the example above), you must first use mt to fast-forward to the correct tape-mark. Let's say we want to get the second file-system off the tape:
# mt fsf 1 # restore -i/dev/st0
This will then put you in restore's little "shell" for adding files/directories to be restored. For example:
restore > ? Available commands are: ls [arg] - list directory cd arg - change directory pwd - print current directory add [arg] - add `arg' to list of files to be extracted delete [arg] - delete `arg' from list of files to be extracted extract - extract requested files setmodes - set modes of requested directories quit - immediately exit program what - list dump header information verbose - toggle verbose flag (useful with ``ls'') help or `?' - print this list If no `arg' is supplied, the current directory is used restore > add etc restore > extract You have not read any tapes yet. Unless you know which volume your file(s) are on you should start with the last volume and work towards towards the first. Specify next volume #: 1
( it will now restore from the tape to your cwd)
Done!
--- 8- Just to sum up, the example above opens the tape, lists the files, and adds "etc/" to the list of files to be extracted. Since this is a level 0 backup (a full non-incremental backup) I need not put in any other tapes and simply say "1" when it asks me for the next volume number.
The etc/ directory (with all its sub-directories) will be in whatever directory I started restore from. If you are doing a system restore, do it from "/".
For the ISP I run, we do a nightly cron-driven backup using dump. The key is that you must specify the total length of the tape. We have a 23GB tape drive, of which we conservitively say the tape is 20GB long.
Here is our cron.daily/daily.dump file:
#!/bin/sh ## Daily Full System Backup Givin with 20GB Tape Cap. mt rewind mt erase mt rewind /sbin/dump 0uBf 20000000/dev/nst0/dev/sdb1 /sbin/dump 0uBf 20000000/dev/nst0/dev/sda1 /sbin/dump 0uBf 20000000/dev/nst0/dev/sdc1 mt rewind
This dumps all three of our partitions out to a single tape. The 0 ("zero") option dumps the entire thing, as out tape drive is fast, vs. specifing a dump level > 0 (which is for doing various levels of incremental backups); The u, which updates a human-readable/etc/dumpdates file; B for the number of blocks ("kilobytes") the tape is long (this is your problem); and finally f: the device to dump to.
One of the things that really gets people is how to pass arguments correctly to dump. A little diagram might serve as an aid:
dump [arg name 1][arg name 2][arg name 3] [arg value 1][arg value 2][arg value 3]
Hope that helps!
We use the/dev/nst0 device to write to the tape three times without the thing rewinding. This is the key to putting more than one filesystem on per tape.
If anybody has any questions about using dump, I would be happy to help.
I am curreently authoring some software that will make "Montages" (see The Linux Image Montage Project), as the software I am using now has a clause in the licensing agreement that states, "this software can be in no way used for commercial purposes" (I am paraphrasing here). It would also appear that the person who invented the technique, has a patent not on the algorithm, but the look-and-feel of a Montage.
What really get's me is that photographers have been making 360 panaramas & photo montages, albeit analog ones, for years. I am suprised that just because the picture is represented by bits instead of film-grain that it makes any difference.
The modern use of "sell-out" has been used and used to signify, "somebody that was different (like me because I am different)," but now, "is different from me, so they're a sell-out." Who is the one calling the kettle black? Hmm?
My dad is not a "sell-out" he is simply more wise. He has seen a lot of the world. He knows a little of everything: from farming (hemp) to marketing. It is thanks to a broad life time experience.
Don't spend too long thinking one-way our your liable to get stuck there. Get it?
How about all the people in the "Think Different" campain. There were, "[the black, the gay, the wierd...]"
My point is both Bills are different from the norm, and yes they do run things. Pop-stars RUN A HELL OF A LOT why do you think Marilyn Manson sells-out crowds? Why do kids immitate him? Control the kids--control the future.
If you want more examples, we could take your pal Mitnick for example...tell me he is SO normal. *troll*
Sorry, I mistook you for being part of the elite-few wackos who were out there. What makes Bill Clinton or Bill Gates different, is that if they were used-car salesmen, the would take a "by-hook-or-by-crook" attitude about it and not stop until they owned all the dealerships.
After middle-school (there would be more shootings in middle-school if young kids could afford fire-arms-- trust me), I didn't get picked on. I found that even though I was sort-of-nerdy: I could get along with nearly everyone.
No matter your clique, skills, or hobbies it is very important that you attempt to be nice person, honorable, and along for the ride to a better future. If you ain't, then were all screwed.
Just my last $.02 from the "optimistic generation."
My father was a hippie. For real. He got kicked out of college for being "to far to the left."
What happens when "Goths" and "Jocks" grow up? Do we not all more or less become more like each other?
My dad is a seamingly "normal" member of society, now. What is it about our younger years that forces us to differentiate, only to come together in the end? It would seem, except for the lunatic frindge that we all just "grow-out" of it--get fatter, and (some of us) loose our hair.
If these is any sense that can be made out of modern-day high school: it would seam that the more tolerant people become of race, the less they become tolerant of diversity. It is like that Dr. Seuss books with the creatures "with the stars on there belly's," they are all the same-- but they would buy from a machine to be different from each other. Ahh, the wisdom of Dr. Seuss. Where can I get those now-damned black coats? It's been awhile since I have been down Melrose.
This is just the start of things. Imagine all of the fun exploits that will be out there when more and more chips in production rely more and more heavily on microcode?
All sorts of evil could be accomplished. Image: let's change that MOV instruction to...
I wonder on an (allegedly) dynamic chip like whatever is supposed to be coming out of Transmeta, how they are going to handle this issue?
I think the point needs to be made to everyone that these "Trench-coat Mafia" members were not even part of the normal counter-culture, but on the fringes of humanity itself. I guess as the world gets more accepting of racial diversity, the less we have tolerance for diversity elsewhere.
On a far lighter, but perhaps more dangerious note: I am suprised that someone hasn't come along and made a laughably funny Dilbertesq cartoon about the modern highschool dynamic?
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Yes, Yes...short posts. Bad me.
I was hoping to spur ideas. Just imagine (as in reply) would could be done with a bi-directional high-bandwidth link dedicated to on-demand video and media delivery.
The funding comes from wherever, a big company, a new company, or perhaps a spin-off. More importantly, what do you think?
-AP
-- Just wanting to make conversation...
---
I just want to know why the net-boy speak for the name of the distribution. Can you see the guys on irc #linux now:
#m0j0f1ght3r> I run the fr33kin' kha0s, y0u w0n't b3 abl3 to crackz my a$$.
That is why I think I might try one of the other secure distributions that were anounnced on BUGTRAQ.
Than again, I could be dead wrong, and the name could be like danish or sweedish or something...
-AP
It is very unfortunate that this huge piece of computer history is being sold. It should be in a museum, perhaps in the Smithsonian. I hope that the buyer is willing to donate it to a museum.
Ah, such is capitialism...
-AP
And UNIX is invunerable? I beg to differ! GO take a look at the Bugtrq Archives and tell me how secure UNIX is! Hmm?
If you are going to make a virus, why can't it be non-destructive? How about, "Your computer has proved to be vunerable by exploiting this library, please report it to the nearest computer-security professional."
Let's be CON-structive here.
-AP
Assuming from your the tone and thoughts presented in your e-mail message, I assume that you do not work in a professional office envronment.
The job of the IT department is to remove as much worry and technical difficulty from the computer for the user. Many workers just view their machines as appliances, and rightfully so: would you rather your doctor be concerned about your health or the health of his computer?
Your comment yields nothing but the same blind teen-age rage that is so common between the Ford tire-slashing Chevy goons, and the Chevy muffler-stuffing Ford twits that drive around rural USA evangilizing a piece of machinery.
It is unfortuante that this group of 3li3t3 d00dz (?) takes pride in smashing other's prosperity. It is unfortunate that they are not using their obvious software talents for the greater good (as I assume by hating Microsoft, you are a free software advocate). It is unfortunate that you do not see that it tarnishes the already battered image of the internet community and people for free software.
Cars and computers are just tools. Do not view them more than you would view the screw-driver you used to tighten the chasis.
Just get your work done!
-AP
All flames --> me
amoebapr@remotepoint.com
A very good point to make. People often forget how important it is to at least present yourself well. People *screaming* and *flaming* about RedHat, Microsoft, or anything else they don't like actually tarnishes the image of the object they are arguing for.
But hey, this is just common sense right?
-AP
1. The open-source movement parallels the 1960's and early 1970's free-love environment. The stage was set for this explosive event to happen: the ease of source sharing on a newly evolving internet, the kindling; a set of eager and energetic bright young programmers, the fuel; and a the GNU/Linux platform to use as a foundation, the spark. What a nice little fire we have now?
Unfortunatly or fortunatly, we are dipping far into the pool of liberalism today, as people did in the 1960's. Everything is set now to swing the other way. Just as STD's, buisness school, and age ended the free-love period: money and timeless conservative wisdom will bring opensource to market and open-source to age.
2. RedHat is good. People who pay to get coded are good. To draw from a study (which I do not have a proper reference to) which I read about way back in Psychology class: when the economy is richer charity is more popular. If writing free software is charity, than doing more buisness is better for it.
-AP (amoebapr@remotepoint.com)
Isn't it strange how Intel can have a run-away sales hit like the Celeron to do nothing but stamp it out for, "our protection."
It is odd to think that if we were a small chips manufacturer that had a hit like the Celeron, it would be our bread-and-butter: Intel can afford to just change the line in order to keep people in their "correct processor class."
I wonder what the margin is that they make on each type of processor? I would venture their net profit on two 370 Celerons is about 1/4 of the net profit they make on a Pentium III-- or maybe 1/6 of the profit on a Xeon III sale.
AP
(All quotes "made up.")
We have found this not to be true with a number of tape drives (notably Seagate DATs), therefore the conservative limit. :)
--When in doubt kludge it.
-AP (Jordan Husney)
A couple people have written in asking how to do a restore opereration with "restore" (the companion program to dump). By far the easiest way is to do:
/dev/st0
/dev/st0
# restore -i
(where 0 is your tape drive number)
However, If you have multiple filesystems on a single tape (like the example above), you must first use mt to fast-forward to the correct tape-mark. Let's say we want to get the second file-system off the tape:
# mt fsf 1
# restore -i
This will then put you in restore's little "shell" for adding files/directories to be restored. For example:
-- 8- *snip* ---
restore > ls
.:
.automount/ bin/ lib/ proc/ usr/
.bash_history boot/ lost+found/ root/ var/
.mc.hot dev/ misc/ sbin/
.mc.ini etc/ mnt/ tftpboot/
.netwatch home/ net/ tmp/
restore > ?
Available commands are:
ls [arg] - list directory
cd arg - change directory
pwd - print current directory
add [arg] - add `arg' to list of files to be extracted
delete [arg] - delete `arg' from list of files to be extracted
extract - extract requested files
setmodes - set modes of requested directories
quit - immediately exit program
what - list dump header information
verbose - toggle verbose flag (useful with ``ls'')
help or `?' - print this list
If no `arg' is supplied, the current directory is used
restore > add etc
restore > extract
You have not read any tapes yet.
Unless you know which volume your file(s) are on you should start
with the last volume and work towards towards the first.
Specify next volume #: 1
( it will now restore from the tape to your cwd)
Done!
--- 8-
Just to sum up, the example above opens the tape, lists the files, and adds "etc/" to the list of files to be extracted. Since this is a level 0 backup (a full non-incremental backup) I need not put in any other tapes and simply say "1" when it asks me for the next volume number.
The etc/ directory (with all its sub-directories) will be in whatever directory I started restore from. If you are doing a system restore, do it from "/".
-AP (Jordan Husney)
Here is our cron.daily/daily.dump file:
This dumps all three of our partitions out to a single tape. The 0 ("zero") option dumps the entire thing, as out tape drive is fast, vs. specifing a dump level > 0 (which is for doing various levels of incremental backups); The u, which updates a human-readable /etc/dumpdates file; B for the number of blocks ("kilobytes") the tape is long (this is your problem); and finally f: the device to dump to.
One of the things that really gets people is how to pass arguments correctly to dump. A little diagram might serve as an aid:
Hope that helps!We use the /dev/nst0 device to write to the tape three times without the thing rewinding. This is the key to putting more than one filesystem on per tape.
If anybody has any questions about using dump, I would be happy to help.
-AP
jordanh@remotepoint.com
I am curreently authoring some software that will make "Montages" (see The Linux Image Montage Project), as the software I am using now has a clause in the licensing agreement that states, "this software can be in no way used for commercial purposes" (I am paraphrasing here). It would also appear that the person who invented the technique, has a patent not on the algorithm, but the look-and-feel of a Montage.
What really get's me is that photographers have been making 360 panaramas & photo montages, albeit analog ones, for years. I am suprised that just because the picture is represented by bits instead of film-grain that it makes any difference.
-AP (Jordan Husney)I refuse to accept that!
The modern use of "sell-out" has been used and used to signify, "somebody that was different (like me because I am different)," but now, "is different from me, so they're a sell-out." Who is the one calling the kettle black? Hmm?
My dad is not a "sell-out" he is simply more wise. He has seen a lot of the world. He knows a little of everything: from farming (hemp) to marketing. It is thanks to a broad life time experience.
Don't spend too long thinking one-way our your liable to get stuck there. Get it?
-AP
How about all the people in the "Think Different" campain. There were, "[the black, the gay, the wierd...]"
My point is both Bills are different from the norm, and yes they do run things. Pop-stars RUN A HELL OF A LOT why do you think Marilyn Manson sells-out crowds? Why do kids immitate him? Control the kids--control the future.
If you want more examples, we could take your pal Mitnick for example...tell me he is SO normal. *troll*
Get it?
-AP
"The rest of us," are middle men.
Sorry, I mistook you for being part of the elite-few wackos who were out there. What makes Bill Clinton or Bill Gates different, is that if they were used-car salesmen, the would take a "by-hook-or-by-crook" attitude about it and not stop until they owned all the dealerships.
-AP
After middle-school (there would be more shootings in middle-school if young kids could afford fire-arms-- trust me), I didn't get picked on. I found that even though I was sort-of-nerdy: I could get along with nearly everyone.
No matter your clique, skills, or hobbies it is very important that you attempt to be nice person, honorable, and along for the ride to a better future. If you ain't, then were all screwed.
Just my last $.02 from the "optimistic generation."
-AP
America is run by the freaks, not the middlemen. Is Bill Clinton normal? Was Newt? Howabout out pop-music stars? Bill Gates?
We need the middle men to get all that work done. Everything left for us is part of the spicy sauce of life.
-APWhat happens when "Goths" and "Jocks" grow up? Do we not all more or less become more like each other?
My dad is a seamingly "normal" member of society, now. What is it about our younger years that forces us to differentiate, only to come together in the end? It would seem, except for the lunatic frindge that we all just "grow-out" of it--get fatter, and (some of us) loose our hair.
If these is any sense that can be made out of modern-day high school: it would seam that the more tolerant people become of race, the less they become tolerant of diversity. It is like that Dr. Seuss books with the creatures "with the stars on there belly's," they are all the same-- but they would buy from a machine to be different from each other. Ahh, the wisdom of Dr. Seuss. Where can I get those now-damned black coats? It's been awhile since I have been down Melrose.
-AP
All sorts of evil could be accomplished. Image: let's change that MOV instruction to...
I wonder on an (allegedly) dynamic chip like whatever is supposed to be coming out of Transmeta, how they are going to handle this issue?
-APOh okay...so much for sarcasm.
-AP
On a far lighter, but perhaps more dangerious note: I am suprised that someone hasn't come along and made a laughably funny Dilbertesq cartoon about the modern highschool dynamic?
It will be a fantastic day when the next Pixar flick is done on an OpenSource platform. Somebody tell 'em to loose those Suns.
-AP
I always wondered why the stats engin had never been completely finished.
Hmm...
Jordan.