>You know what the most complex piece of
engineering known to man in the whole solar system is?
>Guess what - it's not Linux, it's not Solaris, and it's not your car.
>It's you. And me.
>And think about how you and me actually came
about - not through any complex design.
>Right. "sheer luck".
Merriam-Webster definition of the words "Engineering" and "Engineer"
Engineering :
The practical applications of scientific and mathmatical principals.
Engineer:
1. To lay out or to manage as an engineer.
2. To guide the course of, to pilot or steer, lead.
To claim that Mankind is a ( quoting Linus ) "A most complex piece of engineering" AND THEN to claim that said engineering is the result of "sheer luck" is a gross contradiction.
The definition of the words "engineer" or "engineering" implys the thing or creation engineered was guided, lead, built with intent, built to a specific plan or set of blueprints.
Which would be the exact opposite of "sheer luck"
"sheer luck" is chaos not engineering.
If mankind is a work of engineering, and I think mankind is just that, a work of engineering, that would strongly in no uncertian terms imply the existance of an engineer, or creator.
The creator in this case being the individual entity holding the plans, and blueprints of our design.
And of couse we are talking about God.
God engineered us.
We know this through observation, becuase looking at ourselves we see far too much design, and intent of purpose, in ourselves we see the creators fingerprints.
To conclude we are engineered is to conclude that God exists.
First i'm not bitching, I'm stating the facts of the matter as I see them in a public forum.
Without resorting to insults I might add.
Second my rights have been violated. If I ever did buy a DVD player it would HAVE to be for my Linux box, the majority of DVD players on the market do not have Linux drivers. So therefore any attempts on my part to get that DVD player working on my Linux box MIGHT be seen as a violation of the DMCA, so I CAN'T buy one. EVER, until this matter is settled.
I think it's fair use if I use DeCSS to run DVD's on my Linux box.I think it's fair use if I want to copy the DVD from the DVD to my harddrive, so I can watch it.Becuase I paid for the disk, it's my hardware, I'll run what I like on it in the way that I like.It's certianly not fair to upload that copy to share with 100,000 people.That's what DeCSS was originally designed to do,to let people watch what they legally paid for, on hardware that that they paid for and the DVD manufacturer neglected to provide drivers for.
I can watch and present DVDs to a class, but I can't if I'm using Linux to do it, and I'll violate the DMCA if I try to using DeCSS.
RMS started out that way, he tried to write drivers for a printer, but he ran right into copywrite issues.the printer manufacturers wouldn't release the code to let him do it.
I mean for crying out loud, If I blow out a tire on my bicycle what would you have me do? buy a new bicycle???Becuase if we don't stop crap like the DeCSS that's where we are heading for.Yes sharing your DVD's with everybody that SHOULD pay for them is wrong, but let's not lose our minds.
The laws of fair use allows anyone to copy whatever they like.It's the fair use laws that prevented the recordind industry from banning or imposing a restriction on radios with built in tape decks.The recording industry then implemented the DMCA, they couldn't beat the existing laws so they changed them, and we though inactivity and general sheepishness allowed it to happen. DVD decoding was the first hit by the DMCA, and the first guy to decode a DVD WAS for the purpose that he could watch a DVD on his Linux box, becuase the DVD manufacturer failed to provide a driver for linux.Yes, you can as a result of that download a movie now off of the internet.However it doesn't change that fact that previously before the DMCA a similar act of sharing a DVD would have been legal.In order to download a DVD someone has to share it, and sharing came under the fair use act.Government is a partisipatory sport, it demands all our attention and involvement for it to function and function PROPERLY, when we are lack it fuctions poorly.DMCA can be changed or removed entirely.The laws CAN be brought back to some semblance of normalcy.
And perhaps even a compromise may be made, a consession to the recording industry in some way that satifies both parties.
DeCSS IS about free speech.allthough OTHERS may pervert that free speech for their own ends, it still remains DeCSS was created in the first place to allow those with out drivers, to watch a DVD in thier homes.
I don't own a DVD player.
I don't have any DVD's.
WHY????
Why give a corporation that believes in the DMCA my money which they will use to hire lawers to sue me or others with?
Why empower those assholes?
Let Sony learn the hard way in the market place, either do business fairly and learn to play nicely or get shut out.
If you don't want me to use it the way I see fit then I won't have anything to do with your robot dog, I needed an excuse NOT to buy one anyway.
Keep it up and I'll personally extend my boycot to your entire line of products.
Wasn't it Steve Ballmer that said "Developers! Developers! Developers!" ? has that standard MS line changed to "charge developers! charge developers! charge developers!" ?
Your not very bright are you?
My last name is "beaver" now, think for a moment, what do you suppose I'm into???
and besides you are off topic, the topic is about Nintendo not Playstation, and it's spelled "RULES", not "RULZ".
And Nintendo is superiour to Playstation anyway,anything with a Silicon Graphics chip in it kicks ass.
american fail to live up to thier full life expectancy, due to thier poor diet, pollution ect.
the fact remains if they took better care of themselves they'd live much longer.
Hey come on!40 isn't over the hill.
The Human body is capable of life for a maximum of 120 years. I think the oldest person ever on record was like 121 or thereabouts.So if that's true then 61 would be target age.
And no I'm not 40, I've still got a ways to go yet before I get there.
: )
i agree fully. opensourcing beos will save the platform. and provide for future releases. imagine cvs'ing the latest beos kernel nightly!
a community would form much like the debian developer community, to maintain beos code. Be's financal collaps may be the best thing to happen to Beos yet!
3rd worlders by and large use equipment that we donate.
since proprietary os'en are tricky to redistribute in this manner, linux is most commonly installed on thier newly accquired boxes.
Christ lays out very clearly the way to salvation.The path is open to all.Of all of us that have lived here on earth only Jesus Christ is perfect, we are not.we are surrounded by sin.this age of sin will not last long.If you grow weary of killing and slavery, and murder and cons, don't worry too much, God will put a stop to it for all time, get ready.
As far as i'm conserned Apple really lost all touch with reality when they had the balls to call thier latest efforts "supercomputers".what a bunch of fuckups.
nice to see the Steve Jobs reality distortion field working at full force.
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I'll just sit here and wait another 10 years and maybe, just maybe Linux will get another .25 percent increase in it's desktop user base.
In order to travel 100 steps you must start out with a single step.
Linux has been around for 10 years now.
So why hasn't it gotten past the first step allready?
>You know what the most complex piece of engineering known to man in the whole solar system is?
>Guess what - it's not Linux, it's not Solaris, and it's not your car.
>It's you. And me.
>And think about how you and me actually came about - not through any complex design.
>Right. "sheer luck".
Merriam-Webster definition of the words "Engineering" and "Engineer"
Engineering : The practical applications of scientific and mathmatical principals.
Engineer: 1. To lay out or to manage as an engineer. 2. To guide the course of, to pilot or steer, lead.
To claim that Mankind is a ( quoting Linus ) "A most complex piece of engineering" AND THEN to claim that said engineering is the result of "sheer luck" is a gross contradiction.
The definition of the words "engineer" or "engineering" implys the thing or creation engineered was guided, lead, built with intent, built to a specific plan or set of blueprints.
Which would be the exact opposite of "sheer luck"
"sheer luck" is chaos not engineering.
If mankind is a work of engineering, and I think mankind is just that, a work of engineering, that would strongly in no uncertian terms imply the existance of an engineer, or creator.
The creator in this case being the individual entity holding the plans, and blueprints of our design.
And of couse we are talking about God.
God engineered us.
We know this through observation, becuase looking at ourselves we see far too much design, and intent of purpose, in ourselves we see the creators fingerprints.
To conclude we are engineered is to conclude that God exists.
Without resorting to insults I might add.
Second my rights have been violated. If I ever did buy a DVD player it would HAVE to be for my Linux box, the majority of DVD players on the market do not have Linux drivers. So therefore any attempts on my part to get that DVD player working on my Linux box MIGHT be seen as a violation of the DMCA, so I CAN'T buy one. EVER, until this matter is settled.
I don't own any DVD's I don't have a DVD player, why would I buy one if the fair use issue around it hasn't been resolved.
" Becuase if we don't stop crap like the DeCSS " Kids, always hit preview, and not submit, before posting.oops.ha ha.
I think it's fair use if I use DeCSS to run DVD's on my Linux box.I think it's fair use if I want to copy the DVD from the DVD to my harddrive, so I can watch it.Becuase I paid for the disk, it's my hardware, I'll run what I like on it in the way that I like.It's certianly not fair to upload that copy to share with 100,000 people.That's what DeCSS was originally designed to do,to let people watch what they legally paid for, on hardware that that they paid for and the DVD manufacturer neglected to provide drivers for. I can watch and present DVDs to a class, but I can't if I'm using Linux to do it, and I'll violate the DMCA if I try to using DeCSS. RMS started out that way, he tried to write drivers for a printer, but he ran right into copywrite issues.the printer manufacturers wouldn't release the code to let him do it. I mean for crying out loud, If I blow out a tire on my bicycle what would you have me do? buy a new bicycle???Becuase if we don't stop crap like the DeCSS that's where we are heading for.Yes sharing your DVD's with everybody that SHOULD pay for them is wrong, but let's not lose our minds.
The laws of fair use allows anyone to copy whatever they like.It's the fair use laws that prevented the recordind industry from banning or imposing a restriction on radios with built in tape decks.The recording industry then implemented the DMCA, they couldn't beat the existing laws so they changed them, and we though inactivity and general sheepishness allowed it to happen. DVD decoding was the first hit by the DMCA, and the first guy to decode a DVD WAS for the purpose that he could watch a DVD on his Linux box, becuase the DVD manufacturer failed to provide a driver for linux.Yes, you can as a result of that download a movie now off of the internet.However it doesn't change that fact that previously before the DMCA a similar act of sharing a DVD would have been legal.In order to download a DVD someone has to share it, and sharing came under the fair use act.Government is a partisipatory sport, it demands all our attention and involvement for it to function and function PROPERLY, when we are lack it fuctions poorly.DMCA can be changed or removed entirely.The laws CAN be brought back to some semblance of normalcy. And perhaps even a compromise may be made, a consession to the recording industry in some way that satifies both parties. DeCSS IS about free speech.allthough OTHERS may pervert that free speech for their own ends, it still remains DeCSS was created in the first place to allow those with out drivers, to watch a DVD in thier homes.
How many more laws have to be passed before we ALL realize that one day we could be sued for even breathing.
I don't own a DVD player. I don't have any DVD's. WHY???? Why give a corporation that believes in the DMCA my money which they will use to hire lawers to sue me or others with? Why empower those assholes? Let Sony learn the hard way in the market place, either do business fairly and learn to play nicely or get shut out.
If you don't want me to use it the way I see fit then I won't have anything to do with your robot dog, I needed an excuse NOT to buy one anyway. Keep it up and I'll personally extend my boycot to your entire line of products.
Wasn't it Steve Ballmer that said "Developers! Developers! Developers!" ? has that standard MS line changed to "charge developers! charge developers! charge developers!" ?
The entire PC industry is based on that concept. I didn't really need my first pc, but I had to have it. : )
Your not very bright are you? My last name is "beaver" now, think for a moment, what do you suppose I'm into??? and besides you are off topic, the topic is about Nintendo not Playstation, and it's spelled "RULES", not "RULZ". And Nintendo is superiour to Playstation anyway,anything with a Silicon Graphics chip in it kicks ass.
you know you guys, homophobia and hatred towards gays and lesbians is often a sign of repressed sexual desire.particularly homosexual desire.
american fail to live up to thier full life expectancy, due to thier poor diet, pollution ect. the fact remains if they took better care of themselves they'd live much longer.
Hey come on!40 isn't over the hill. The Human body is capable of life for a maximum of 120 years. I think the oldest person ever on record was like 121 or thereabouts.So if that's true then 61 would be target age. And no I'm not 40, I've still got a ways to go yet before I get there. : )
i agree fully. opensourcing beos will save the platform. and provide for future releases. imagine cvs'ing the latest beos kernel nightly! a community would form much like the debian developer community, to maintain beos code. Be's financal collaps may be the best thing to happen to Beos yet!
3rd worlders by and large use equipment that we donate. since proprietary os'en are tricky to redistribute in this manner, linux is most commonly installed on thier newly accquired boxes.
antialiased fonts, now you guys are really trying to get me to use Linux again aren't you. hmmm.....tempting very tempting....
you are his property. everything in the universe is his property actually. all your dna, cells, and related material are subject to his will.
Here's a cheer for common sence and here's to hoping that more reason springs forth from this! HooRay!
Christ lays out very clearly the way to salvation.The path is open to all.Of all of us that have lived here on earth only Jesus Christ is perfect, we are not.we are surrounded by sin.this age of sin will not last long.If you grow weary of killing and slavery, and murder and cons, don't worry too much, God will put a stop to it for all time, get ready.
"java sucks compared to .Net"
a working version of .Net has yet to be implemented.
your pretty fucked up dude.
As far as i'm conserned Apple really lost all touch with reality when they had the balls to call thier latest efforts "supercomputers".what a bunch of fuckups. nice to see the Steve Jobs reality distortion field working at full force.