I don't know how many BeOS or Linux or even FreeBSD users i've encountered that would love to use the OS of thier choice at work instead of Windows.
The fact that whistler plus.NET is another upgrade in the never ending chain could finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.
that plus the fact that when you use the new version of Office your documents won't be stored on your desktop the'll be stored on servers at Redmond.
Network down? whoops there goes your apps.
It's crap like this that causes people to leave windowsland and go elsewhere.
This is no threat to linux/BeOS not at all.it's a blessing.
.NET is a much bigger threat to Microsoft than Linux.
If i'm a system admin, windows or otherwise or even chairman of a corperation and i'm thinking about the concept of upgrading to ANOTHER version of windows again, plus upgrading to the next version of Office which will be.NET based, meaning monthly or yearly subscription rates, then I've got to be thinking "How the hell do I lower my admin costs and get away from this dependancy on microsoft???"
Both Linux or BeOS does not need.NET because.NET is designed for just one thing, screwing customers out of every last cent.
I guess Sprint wants to fail, it really sounds like they're sick and tired of making money.too bad, it is a shame to see such technology go to waste.Goodbye sprint,it was fun while it lasted!not.
Do you know what happened in the very first days of the church when you needed a copy of the bible? you borrowed a copy from a friend and you copied it out.plain and simple,no copy right violations, no claims of piracy.all books and music for that matter were like this.not just the bible.People have a basic right to information to educate themselves.for either work or pleasure.
People have a right to compensation for thier efforts, Linus Torvalds is compensated for his efforts,Alan Cox is compensated for his efforts.
Linux is not about piracy, free software is not about piracy.RedHat sells Linux they make a lot of money at it, so do Caldera, SuSE, Debian is boxed and sold in stores too.Anyone can make money with Linux.check out any issue of Linux Journal and take a look at all those ads inside the magazine, there's a lot of products for sale and a lot of poeple making money.Linux works both ways as free code for those that can't afford it and as a new money making venture.Rob Malda himself isn't without some pocket change of his own in this regard.Now,take Napster,Music recording companies loan new artists a sum of money to get started upon signing to thier labels, this money is then re-paid upon sales of thier first album, most new arists ie: all of them. actualy make little or no money on the deal with the recording company, it' really the live concerts where they really make anything,in other words by listening to music on the radio for free it acts as an enticement to go and see the bands live and pay them by way of purchacing a ticket.Napster obviously helps in this regard too.by the way,the music recording companies since Napster made an extra billion or two since Napster has been around.Napster = promotion and sales.people have a right to fair use of art, books, literature,music.people should have a right to be compensated for thier work.People also should have a right to privacy, to enjoy what they read, or listen to without undue pressure or influence from caesar.There is a real obvious difference to stealing, that is best defined as breaking into someone's home and taking a valuable object fo yourself,and what the music recording and microsoft lables as piracy.God is both a Father to us and a judge, and he is the best judge in the universe, he is both fair and wise becuase he is perfect.God takes all these things into consideration, and into his hands do I place my faith in.I am a christian.Beware of people that want to wring every last penny from you, beware of people that want to control your thoughts and what you have access to,Bill Gates is entitled to fair compensation, but that's where I draw the line, no more.The music industry is entitled to fair compensation, but no more.I happen to think that the Music indusry are ripping the artist off and cheating them out of fair compensation. Plus I happen to think that Bill Gates is ripping people off too.Imagine buying a car, but never being allowed to open the hood, or worse, having to buy that car based on what information the seller gives you never being allowed to test drive it.
beware of greed and usury.Obey God, love him, do as he says but don't ever let people especialy greedy people walk all over you or anyone else!stand up for yourself and others, be a christian, God doesn't like people that shortchange others or rip people off.
praise Jesus, may he bless all of you.
ps. windows sucks.
It's not the size of most Linux distro's these days that bug me, it's the directory structure and over all incompatablity from one linux distro to the next.
I wonder when Linux reaches the ability to actually replace Windows on the desktop just how much more messy and bloated it will become.Linux is actually starting to make Windows look good.no wonder I switched to BeOS.
it's getting excelt results thank you very much, the tracker has even forked, check out bebits look up the tracker, there's damn near a copy for every language.
1. greatest file system on earth. reiser is piss poor by comparison
2.The easiest most straight forward API in existance.
3.Fastest OpenGL on earth. yes you could get an sgi or something but just think if BeOS were ported to sgi hardware,weee!
4.BONE, the new networking environment makes BeOS an alternate choice as a server.better than Linux.
5.totaly object oriented, it will make you love C++.
6. The greatest, fastest most reponsive windowing system on earth.
7. best smp ever, use up to 100% of both processors, 16 of them if you wish
8. plug and forget it, just add a new card or device, it just works, period.
9. apps, apps, apps! currently there are 2902 apps available for BeOS, apps development speeds up everyday, more on the way.
10. a better, more friendly community than the linux community,BeOS users thed not to be as rude or arogant as Linux users, ask for help anywhere, irc, usenet ect, and you'll find people actually helpfull not just the typical linux users responce, "well read the How-to , moron!"
11. JLG!, french ceo's kick ass!
12. NO DAMN PENGUINS!
13. NO RMS! now that's really sweet!
yes I agree totaly, if you don't like it or need the extra features simply don't include it in the kernel, I have no problem with this concept.
what I have a problem with is, if the goal is to compete with and eventualy overtake windows on the desktop, wouldn't the inclution of extra kernel bloat be nessasary? windows is loaded with extra functionality, it's loaded with extra kernel includes that really don't have to be there, but are included for ease of use ect.
I think in order to really push Linux to the point of total equality with windows ( at least on the desktop )the Linux kernel may have to suffer lesser degree of stability.
In the meantime MS makes windows suck less, in terms of server uptimes/stability as well as on the desktop.
Is Linux on the desktop really that important?
The closer Linux gets to being more like windows the more bloated and unstable it becomes.
and yet even most Linux users must admit with every release of windows, windows suck less and less.
Linux kernel hackers aka "people with too much free time on there hands" are only too willing to overload the kernel with unnessasary crap.
i'll give credit where credit is due, MS knows that some think windows suck and they actively go out to make it work better. that takes direction, the kind that Linux currently lacks.
Why those miserable tiny minded ASSHOLES!
they ought to be diped in shit, they need to be beaten with a leaky douche bag!Bah!
BASTARDS!
Gaaaaa!!!
I am not amused.
Jon Katz = Journalist
Ha ha, hee hee, ha ha!Woo hoo!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa!
*titter*
chortle, snort Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha haa haaaaa!
Hmmm, Walmart selling Mandrake Linux . . .
I like this!
My least favorite Linux distro sold by my least favorite retailer.
They deserve each other.
Bah!
run Debian like you ought to!
A book review of Death March?
Now?
How old is this book?
didn't it come out like 5 years ago?
sounds like the book review itself was victim of a deathmarch too.
First, BeOS is actually a server OS now, thanks to BONE (the new networking update ) BeOS is better at networking now and is actually faster and can handle more loads than Linux.
Secondly, BeOS has lost two developer companies, one Wildcard design had to close it's doors because it was sued by a larger ( and as yet unkown company ) the other Thunder Munchkin Software, because the owner is a butthead.
however
BeOS has retained the home based developer community.
BeOS has gained and expanded it's user base.
BeOS if it ever does fail in the market place may very well go Opensource!
Be inc, current plans are to push BeIA earn revenues from that and re-channel them into BeOS.
So far it seems to be working.
If the Amiga can make a comeback,hell BEOS will live forever!
I've tried every OS known to man or beast on my PII 233mhz box , and I've never than nor now felt the need to upgrade to anything faster thanks to my OS of choice.
BeOS!
I am so pleased with the speed of it I may not upgrade for sometime yet!
Allthough a duel cpu box would be nice : )
It is far better to use an OS with many bugs, than use a closedsource OS with no bugs.
The opensource OS allows me to fix those bugs the closedsource doesn't.
This is one of the fundamental prinipals of opensource and it's working quite well thank you very much.
The end result is we know how many bugs there are in Redhat 7.0 , we have no idea how many there are in Windows ( pick any windows product ).
Those that bitch and moan about a buggy Redhat product just don't get it, or have never coded anything in there life beyond a "Hello World" app.
Bugs happen.help fix them or back off.
I lust for a distro with kernel 2.4 , gcc 3.0 , kde 2.0
until then however i'll use whatever the hell i can buggy or not that is as close as possible to heaven for me.
bugs are part of coding deal with it or fix em yourself , contribute or back off.
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A damn good idea.
I don't know how many BeOS or Linux or even FreeBSD users i've encountered that would love to use the OS of thier choice at work instead of Windows. The fact that whistler plus .NET is another upgrade in the never ending chain could finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.
that plus the fact that when you use the new version of Office your documents won't be stored on your desktop the'll be stored on servers at Redmond.
Network down? whoops there goes your apps.
It's crap like this that causes people to leave windowsland and go elsewhere.
This is no threat to linux/BeOS not at all.it's a blessing.
.NET is a much bigger threat to Microsoft than Linux. If i'm a system admin, windows or otherwise or even chairman of a corperation and i'm thinking about the concept of upgrading to ANOTHER version of windows again, plus upgrading to the next version of Office which will be .NET based, meaning monthly or yearly subscription rates, then I've got to be thinking "How the hell do I lower my admin costs and get away from this dependancy on microsoft???"
Both Linux or BeOS does not need .NET because .NET is designed for just one thing, screwing customers out of every last cent.
I guess Sprint wants to fail, it really sounds like they're sick and tired of making money.too bad, it is a shame to see such technology go to waste.Goodbye sprint,it was fun while it lasted!not.
Do you know what happened in the very first days of the church when you needed a copy of the bible? you borrowed a copy from a friend and you copied it out.plain and simple,no copy right violations, no claims of piracy.all books and music for that matter were like this.not just the bible.People have a basic right to information to educate themselves.for either work or pleasure. People have a right to compensation for thier efforts, Linus Torvalds is compensated for his efforts,Alan Cox is compensated for his efforts. Linux is not about piracy, free software is not about piracy.RedHat sells Linux they make a lot of money at it, so do Caldera, SuSE, Debian is boxed and sold in stores too.Anyone can make money with Linux.check out any issue of Linux Journal and take a look at all those ads inside the magazine, there's a lot of products for sale and a lot of poeple making money.Linux works both ways as free code for those that can't afford it and as a new money making venture.Rob Malda himself isn't without some pocket change of his own in this regard.Now,take Napster,Music recording companies loan new artists a sum of money to get started upon signing to thier labels, this money is then re-paid upon sales of thier first album, most new arists ie: all of them. actualy make little or no money on the deal with the recording company, it' really the live concerts where they really make anything,in other words by listening to music on the radio for free it acts as an enticement to go and see the bands live and pay them by way of purchacing a ticket.Napster obviously helps in this regard too.by the way,the music recording companies since Napster made an extra billion or two since Napster has been around.Napster = promotion and sales.people have a right to fair use of art, books, literature,music.people should have a right to be compensated for thier work.People also should have a right to privacy, to enjoy what they read, or listen to without undue pressure or influence from caesar.There is a real obvious difference to stealing, that is best defined as breaking into someone's home and taking a valuable object fo yourself,and what the music recording and microsoft lables as piracy.God is both a Father to us and a judge, and he is the best judge in the universe, he is both fair and wise becuase he is perfect.God takes all these things into consideration, and into his hands do I place my faith in.I am a christian.Beware of people that want to wring every last penny from you, beware of people that want to control your thoughts and what you have access to,Bill Gates is entitled to fair compensation, but that's where I draw the line, no more.The music industry is entitled to fair compensation, but no more.I happen to think that the Music indusry are ripping the artist off and cheating them out of fair compensation. Plus I happen to think that Bill Gates is ripping people off too.Imagine buying a car, but never being allowed to open the hood, or worse, having to buy that car based on what information the seller gives you never being allowed to test drive it. beware of greed and usury.Obey God, love him, do as he says but don't ever let people especialy greedy people walk all over you or anyone else!stand up for yourself and others, be a christian, God doesn't like people that shortchange others or rip people off. praise Jesus, may he bless all of you. ps. windows sucks.
words cannot properly convey my anger over shitheaded stupidity like this.
It's not the size of most Linux distro's these days that bug me, it's the directory structure and over all incompatablity from one linux distro to the next. I wonder when Linux reaches the ability to actually replace Windows on the desktop just how much more messy and bloated it will become.Linux is actually starting to make Windows look good.no wonder I switched to BeOS.
it's getting excelt results thank you very much, the tracker has even forked, check out bebits look up the tracker, there's damn near a copy for every language.
1. greatest file system on earth. reiser is piss poor by comparison 2.The easiest most straight forward API in existance. 3.Fastest OpenGL on earth. yes you could get an sgi or something but just think if BeOS were ported to sgi hardware,weee! 4.BONE, the new networking environment makes BeOS an alternate choice as a server.better than Linux. 5.totaly object oriented, it will make you love C++. 6. The greatest, fastest most reponsive windowing system on earth. 7. best smp ever, use up to 100% of both processors, 16 of them if you wish 8. plug and forget it, just add a new card or device, it just works, period. 9. apps, apps, apps! currently there are 2902 apps available for BeOS, apps development speeds up everyday, more on the way. 10. a better, more friendly community than the linux community,BeOS users thed not to be as rude or arogant as Linux users, ask for help anywhere, irc, usenet ect, and you'll find people actually helpfull not just the typical linux users responce, "well read the How-to , moron!" 11. JLG!, french ceo's kick ass! 12. NO DAMN PENGUINS! 13. NO RMS! now that's really sweet!
The current list of apps available for BeOS is at 2883! and growing daily. get use to it.
yes I agree totaly, if you don't like it or need the extra features simply don't include it in the kernel, I have no problem with this concept. what I have a problem with is, if the goal is to compete with and eventualy overtake windows on the desktop, wouldn't the inclution of extra kernel bloat be nessasary? windows is loaded with extra functionality, it's loaded with extra kernel includes that really don't have to be there, but are included for ease of use ect. I think in order to really push Linux to the point of total equality with windows ( at least on the desktop )the Linux kernel may have to suffer lesser degree of stability. In the meantime MS makes windows suck less, in terms of server uptimes/stability as well as on the desktop. Is Linux on the desktop really that important?
The closer Linux gets to being more like windows the more bloated and unstable it becomes. and yet even most Linux users must admit with every release of windows, windows suck less and less. Linux kernel hackers aka "people with too much free time on there hands" are only too willing to overload the kernel with unnessasary crap. i'll give credit where credit is due, MS knows that some think windows suck and they actively go out to make it work better. that takes direction, the kind that Linux currently lacks.
Why those miserable tiny minded ASSHOLES! they ought to be diped in shit, they need to be beaten with a leaky douche bag!Bah! BASTARDS! Gaaaaa!!! I am not amused.
wtf? no first post? an actual relevant comment? how the hell did that happen?nothing but bad lazy trolls around here...
Jon Katz = Journalist Ha ha, hee hee, ha ha!Woo hoo! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa! *titter* chortle, snort Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haa haaaaa!
Hmmm, Walmart selling Mandrake Linux . . . I like this! My least favorite Linux distro sold by my least favorite retailer. They deserve each other. Bah! run Debian like you ought to!
A book review of Death March? Now? How old is this book? didn't it come out like 5 years ago? sounds like the book review itself was victim of a deathmarch too.
First, BeOS is actually a server OS now, thanks to BONE (the new networking update ) BeOS is better at networking now and is actually faster and can handle more loads than Linux. Secondly, BeOS has lost two developer companies, one Wildcard design had to close it's doors because it was sued by a larger ( and as yet unkown company ) the other Thunder Munchkin Software, because the owner is a butthead. however BeOS has retained the home based developer community. BeOS has gained and expanded it's user base. BeOS if it ever does fail in the market place may very well go Opensource! Be inc, current plans are to push BeIA earn revenues from that and re-channel them into BeOS. So far it seems to be working. If the Amiga can make a comeback,hell BEOS will live forever!
somebody mod this up as funny damnit! it's a vic-20 reference allready!
I've tried every OS known to man or beast on my PII 233mhz box , and I've never than nor now felt the need to upgrade to anything faster thanks to my OS of choice. BeOS! I am so pleased with the speed of it I may not upgrade for sometime yet! Allthough a duel cpu box would be nice : )
Looks UUUUgly! it actualy looks like a cross between an ibook and a samsonite suitcase. I'd pay money to see an Ape Jump up and down on it.
It is far better to use an OS with many bugs, than use a closedsource OS with no bugs. The opensource OS allows me to fix those bugs the closedsource doesn't. This is one of the fundamental prinipals of opensource and it's working quite well thank you very much. The end result is we know how many bugs there are in Redhat 7.0 , we have no idea how many there are in Windows ( pick any windows product ). Those that bitch and moan about a buggy Redhat product just don't get it, or have never coded anything in there life beyond a "Hello World" app. Bugs happen.help fix them or back off.
"Choosing the kind of work we do" "we" ? "WE" ?!?!?! who's we here you wanna be?!?!?!?
I lust for a distro with kernel 2.4 , gcc 3.0 , kde 2.0 until then however i'll use whatever the hell i can buggy or not that is as close as possible to heaven for me. bugs are part of coding deal with it or fix em yourself , contribute or back off.
I can't live without GIS