At sea level, Mach 1 is 760mph. At 40,000 feet it is 660mph. The SR-71 Blackbird has a maximum top speed of Mach 3.54. Her routine altitude is around 250,000 feet. The spacesuits are necessary for the extreme heat, low oxygen, and high stresses of the environment.
The skin does expand when she's on the tarmac, due to the expansion of the titanium skin. JP7 is used for it's high flammability point because of this.
Considering when the Blackbird was built, I'm amazed they got her to go so far, so high, and so fast.
Dave Barry writes for the Miami Herald...so I must wonder, since those people can't vote, they can't know what funny is -- which must be why this hack is still employed.
Bah. Dave Barry is about as funny as paper pulp...thin, washed out, and right down the drain.
And so you fools will protect another corporation with your money and support the destruction of personal freedoms. Me, I'll be tossing my Guinness down the drain tonight.
Of course, that 932MB includes all of Windows' pretty GUI features, sounds, bells, and whistles, etc. (No pun intended)
Yeah, we can all install Linux in under 200MB - hell, on a floppy disk. However - how big is your install if you include X, Gnome, Apache, and the other "equivalent" software? Pretty sizeable. I'm not defending bloatware, it's just that MS won't give us a "I don't want pretty, I want functional" version of Windows.
Adding to the situation is the thought that "the foreigners will work harder." In many cases, this is true. We Americans (yes, I'm born and raised here, so I suppose that makes me one) *do* have a poor work ethic for the most part. However, with many companies opting for the H1B holders before American citizens, the average white American male is now the least desirable hire - we're the ones that need EOE's, not the so-called "minorities".
I am not against non-American talent - the more brains on a project, the better. In many cases, the non-Americans have much different perspectives on issues and problems regarding both work and social issues. Let's not, however, disregard our own people for those outside our borders.
Those of you who claim me to be racist/nationalist, think for one moment - who among you in other countries would not rather see your own countrymen prosper before those of a different country?
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And yet, you take the time to not only READ the article, but to also attempt some witty comment about the S/N ratio...
Are you serious? "we can use standard TCP/IP client setups..." - Have you ever installed AOL 5.0? Goodbye DUN on Windows - if you had another ISP, AOL disables it. But they're not an anti-trust.
Right.
AOL needs to be stopped - not encouraged to modify and proprietize (sp?) more and more technology. Do you think AOL will have anything to do with the GPL or open source? I seriously doubt it, folks - this is America Online - "So easy to use, no wonder it's #1" - sorry, but it's just because their propaganda machine is crankin' away. Please - don't let your mom, sister, grandma, or cousin use AOL - it merely reinforces the "too dumb to learn anything else" mentality.
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It's called Comic Sans MS, I believe...it's part and parcel of Windows, but I'm sure you should be able to find it elsewhere...
OK. I too will take issue with a couple of Dr Kool's points. Nice that he uses AC so he doesn't get Karma-nuked. First off, if you can't spell it, don't use it. I am a pro-Linux zealot. You are a pro-M$ idiot. Why do I say such an inflammatory thing to you? Have you actually used Windows 98 for anything besides EverQuest? Don't get me wrong, I have a '98 partition for EverQuest too. But I digress. Why are we zealots? Because most of us have taken the time to learn Linux, and have seen the beauty of it - not Enlightenment, or Gnome, etc., but the beauty of the entire community - that somewhere, someone can help you with your problem. If you muck around long enough, you'll find the answer to your problem. Why should we stay locked into a closed OS? So I can reboot it when it dies and just deal with it? Thanks, but no thanks. When/if my apps die on Linux, I can either restart X if that's necessary, and if it becomes consistent - I can look at the source! Try that with Windows, M$ fan. I'm sure we *do* come off sounding arrogant and zealous - but isn't that better than sounding like a total uninformed ingoramus? D
Yeah, it's pretty sad that I whacked my 2 GB Linux partition at home. Why? I can't play EverQuest under Linux. I wish I could, but I can't. Plus, all the servers at work that I have to dial into run pcAnywhere. I know there's a VNC client, but all my colleagues use pcAnywhere on their Windows boxes.
My Linux box at work *never* needs rebooting, but I can't *do* much with it yet besides HTML and some word processing, b/c of corporate standards and lack of software. Yes, more ports, PLEASE! I'm not against closed applications - like pcAnywhere, Office - as long as they don't interfere with the OS in any way, shape, or form.
As an avid fan and slashdot reader, this fight has been interesting for me to follow. On one hand, the "live free or die" attitude has appeal, and on the other hand, your Brunching Shuttlecock's letter and the chat transcript were interesting. I especially liked your reference to the "'we don't suck' money".
My Question Is This:
Why not embrace the MP3 format for *your* music as well? If you'd (and other artists) set up a content delivery system where we could buy a single at a time? Or is the POINT of a CD to push out the songs that might not be as strong as others? I'm not targeting Metallica specifically with this, just a general thought. Another problem is the high cost of CD's - barring the fact that this *is* still piracy on the software part, perhaps the RIAA should be targeted for piracy and racketeering as well - for CD prices. Cheaper prices, or a new method would both improve this situation. Don't shun Napster or it's like - understand it and work to make Napster/the like *not as accessible or viable as an alternative*. It also appears that you (according to your chat) are allowing the DL'd music to stay on people's machines as long as they don't trade it. A gracious move, and one that will soothe a lot of bruised egos and "hurt feelings". Metallica, you made (and still make) some great music - but please don't isolate your fan base by intimidating them.
Ah, but there is a loophole here for Napster - the whole point is a "Person-to-Person" network. Sure, you can search the entire library, but when you download "Enter Sandman.mp3" - YOU connect to JONNYMETALLICAFAN and make the transfer - it's not an FTP or "public" site. Yes, I know, this is stretching it thin, but that *is* the way Napster has phrased this, is it not? If I email you an attachment, that attachment (not counting mail gateways, virus scanners, corporate filters) is between you and I. Yeah, it sucks that Metallica is slamming Napster - but they're not (as others have said) going after users yet - they're trying to scare Napster into legal compliance. Sad point is, Lars - by shutting down Napster, people will just find a different way. Gnutella, IRC, ICQ, etc., etc., etc. Find a better and cheaper distribution method, where I can buy ONE single at a time, and we'll flock to it.
OK. How many people are actually honest-to-goodness computer newbies? Granny may be. Some others may be. But honestly, granny's going to kick off soon enough. The people we should be focusing on most are already using computers. Be it the CLI, a GUI (Pick your flavor), or a VR interface, why should we dumb things down? Isn't that the reason most of us don't LIKE Windows? Hell, Mandrake 7.0 has the xdm startup, and to use your comparisons, my mom can logon to her machine, and after a little messing about the first time she used it, she can now do whatever she likes, same as her Windows box. What we need to look at is how things are going to change - there is already *so* much data coming our way that it's becoming very difficult to deal with all effectively. Is there a way we can do that? Certainly. Unfortunately, I don't have the answers right now. If any of us did, we'd probably be making pretty good money.;) How about dual-boot type modes? Or a Palm-style interface? I know that works pretty well for me for the limited tasks I use it for. Click a picture, get another set - no foldouts, menus, sliders, context menus - just straightforward. When you're ready to move up, just boot into your other OS. Isn't that what most of us did when we left Windows for Linux/Unix?
I personally thought the most sad sentence of the study was on the first page, regarding a video that the two Colorado killers: "In the video, Harris and Klebold dress in trench coats, carry guns, and kill school athletes. They acted out their videotaped performance in real life less than a year later..." And the media is blaming VIDEO GAMES and EASILY AVAILABLE GUNS?!!?!??! None of the teachers immediately had these two boys examined/locked up/helped? Apparently not -- because we've seen the terrible aftermath. Perhaps someone should actually start *helping* these kids. And guys/girls - the "I'll kill you if you think my games are bad" comments *aren't* going to make a positive impression...they'll just reinforce the media's and most of society's view of/.'ers and other computer geeks/nerds/whatever you want to be called. My $.02. DJP
Wow, even with the limited number of posts, some of you already slam Mr. Katz. To you I say, "Nee!" Leave him alone. This is an excellent article, and perhaps you should have read it before hitting "Page Down" repeatedly and replying "KatzSux!" or other such drivel. The frightening part of this article (to me) is that only a small percentage of us will see it. The liberal media won't print it, you won't see it on TV, and you know other websites won't pick up on it and let the other sheep see what's really going on. *Sigh* Mr. Katz, I applaud you for a well-written article. I now suggest you send this article straight to several large newspapers and websites. No, they probably won't be printed/posted - but what if they were? /.ers are a bit of a small segment - we may think we comprise a large group, but in reality, most of the sheeple out there have no idea what Slashdot is or why we matter. Anyone have any ideas how we can get more exposure?
Good Christ. OK. I'll add my $0.02 here as well. Here goes. I am a SysAdmin for a large financial company, supporting (with about 9 others) 1500 Windows 95 clients and about 40 NT Servers. Does this suck? You bet it does. Between fscking with client machines running Novell Netware, Office, Lotus Notes (a piece of bloated crap if I ever saw - and yes, that's including the other bloatware champ, Outlook), and other miscellaneous crap) and messing with restarting apps on NT, or rebooting NT for no good reason, my days are generally very busy. But. Insofar as installing Win95/98/NT/2000 compared to Linux/Be/pick your darned OS, I agree with one important thing that someone said earlier: If you've done it over 500 times, it gets easier!! I've done 95 and NT so much that I can do it without video (OK, maybe not, but almost). Linux? Sucked bad the first time. I had *no* friggin' idea what the hell I was doing. But guess what? The web had howto's, readmes, and a boatload of other resources -- and a damned friendly user community that was readily available to espouse advice and help. Now, I've installed Linux more than a few times (I think I'm up to 20?). So -- I'm not as experienced as some of the rest of you who've done it 100/200/1000000+ times, but I'm learning. With practice, I bet I could do it damned fast too! My point? Several, I think. One: Routine does not mean easy. Sure, a brainsurgeon can do...well, whatever they do. I haven't done it. Granted, by mucking around, I likely won't get chance #2, but that's what cadavers are for.
Two: Practice Makes Perfect, right? Well, same with Windows, same with Linux, same with Be. Hell, I think Be has like, what, 3 config options? (Sorry, I don't remember, I just remember that *I* thought it was easy.) That's another point. You and I and Bob the MSCE+I may think Windows is easy, and I'm sure Eric and Gary think Linux is a cakewalk. **This is getting longwinded, I'll wrap up** Three: Why can't we be friends? OK, yes that's corny, but by shouting about who's better, etc., why not each camp learn more (or something) about the other? IDE drive space is pretty cheap - why not use a 1GB partition for Win98 (if you own it), and Linux, and Be, and BSD, and whatever else you want! If you *don't* want, that's your prerogative (sp?). But please - if you've not got the knowledge, please refrain from screaming your vitriolic self-righteous self-serving ignorance.
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At sea level, Mach 1 is 760mph. At 40,000 feet it is 660mph. The SR-71 Blackbird has a maximum top speed of Mach 3.54. Her routine altitude is around 250,000 feet. The spacesuits are necessary for the extreme heat, low oxygen, and high stresses of the environment. The skin does expand when she's on the tarmac, due to the expansion of the titanium skin. JP7 is used for it's high flammability point because of this. Considering when the Blackbird was built, I'm amazed they got her to go so far, so high, and so fast.
If it's hidden behind voice recognition, it won't really be a CLI, will it? VRI, perhaps?
Um, AC - re-read your comment - Linux != OpenBSD.
"...say 'screw you IPv6 and stay with IPv4'..."
And *why* would we want that? Why is it that you don't favor IPv6?
Dave Barry writes for the Miami Herald...so I must wonder, since those people can't vote, they can't know what funny is -- which must be why this hack is still employed. Bah. Dave Barry is about as funny as paper pulp...thin, washed out, and right down the drain.
And you are obviously a wise philosopher to easily dispense such nuggets of wisdom - an Anonymous Prophet, maybe?
And so you fools will protect another corporation with your money and support the destruction of personal freedoms. Me, I'll be tossing my Guinness down the drain tonight.
Of course, that 932MB includes all of Windows' pretty GUI features, sounds, bells, and whistles, etc. (No pun intended)
Yeah, we can all install Linux in under 200MB - hell, on a floppy disk. However - how big is your install if you include X, Gnome, Apache, and the other "equivalent" software? Pretty sizeable. I'm not defending bloatware, it's just that MS won't give us a "I don't want pretty, I want functional" version of Windows.
Davitt
Adding to the situation is the thought that "the foreigners will work harder." In many cases, this is true. We Americans (yes, I'm born and raised here, so I suppose that makes me one) *do* have a poor work ethic for the most part. However, with many companies opting for the H1B holders before American citizens, the average white American male is now the least desirable hire - we're the ones that need EOE's, not the so-called "minorities".
I am not against non-American talent - the more brains on a project, the better. In many cases, the non-Americans have much different perspectives on issues and problems regarding both work and social issues. Let's not, however, disregard our own people for those outside our borders.
Those of you who claim me to be racist/nationalist, think for one moment - who among you in other countries would not rather see your own countrymen prosper before those of a different country?
And yet, you take the time to not only READ the article, but to also attempt some witty comment about the S/N ratio...
Are you serious? "we can use standard TCP/IP client setups..." - Have you ever installed AOL 5.0? Goodbye DUN on Windows - if you had another ISP, AOL disables it. But they're not an anti-trust.
Right. AOL needs to be stopped - not encouraged to modify and proprietize (sp?) more and more technology. Do you think AOL will have anything to do with the GPL or open source? I seriously doubt it, folks - this is America Online - "So easy to use, no wonder it's #1" - sorry, but it's just because their propaganda machine is crankin' away. Please - don't let your mom, sister, grandma, or cousin use AOL - it merely reinforces the "too dumb to learn anything else" mentality.
It's called Comic Sans MS, I believe...it's part and parcel of Windows, but I'm sure you should be able to find it elsewhere...
OK. I too will take issue with a couple of Dr Kool's points. Nice that he uses AC so he doesn't get Karma-nuked. First off, if you can't spell it, don't use it. I am a pro-Linux zealot. You are a pro-M$ idiot. Why do I say such an inflammatory thing to you? Have you actually used Windows 98 for anything besides EverQuest? Don't get me wrong, I have a '98 partition for EverQuest too. But I digress. Why are we zealots? Because most of us have taken the time to learn Linux, and have seen the beauty of it - not Enlightenment, or Gnome, etc., but the beauty of the entire community - that somewhere, someone can help you with your problem. If you muck around long enough, you'll find the answer to your problem. Why should we stay locked into a closed OS? So I can reboot it when it dies and just deal with it? Thanks, but no thanks. When/if my apps die on Linux, I can either restart X if that's necessary, and if it becomes consistent - I can look at the source! Try that with Windows, M$ fan. I'm sure we *do* come off sounding arrogant and zealous - but isn't that better than sounding like a total uninformed ingoramus? D
So by telling someone that they're stupid, that makes you bright?
Yeah, it's pretty sad that I whacked my 2 GB Linux partition at home. Why? I can't play EverQuest under Linux. I wish I could, but I can't. Plus, all the servers at work that I have to dial into run pcAnywhere. I know there's a VNC client, but all my colleagues use pcAnywhere on their Windows boxes.
My Linux box at work *never* needs rebooting, but I can't *do* much with it yet besides HTML and some word processing, b/c of corporate standards and lack of software. Yes, more ports, PLEASE! I'm not against closed applications - like pcAnywhere, Office - as long as they don't interfere with the OS in any way, shape, or form.
James, Lars, Kirk and Jason,
As an avid fan and slashdot reader, this fight has been interesting for me to follow. On one hand, the "live free or die" attitude has appeal, and on the other hand, your Brunching Shuttlecock's letter and the chat transcript were interesting. I especially liked your reference to the "'we don't suck' money".
My Question Is This:
Why not embrace the MP3 format for *your* music as well? If you'd (and other artists) set up a content delivery system where we could buy a single at a time? Or is the POINT of a CD to push out the songs that might not be as strong as others? I'm not targeting Metallica specifically with this, just a general thought. Another problem is the high cost of CD's - barring the fact that this *is* still piracy on the software part, perhaps the RIAA should be targeted for piracy and racketeering as well - for CD prices.
Cheaper prices, or a new method would both improve this situation.
Don't shun Napster or it's like - understand it and work to make Napster/the like *not as accessible or viable as an alternative*.
It also appears that you (according to your chat) are allowing the DL'd music to stay on people's machines as long as they don't trade it.
A gracious move, and one that will soothe a lot of bruised egos and "hurt feelings".
Metallica, you made (and still make) some great music - but please don't isolate your fan base by intimidating them.
Ah, but there is a loophole here for Napster - the whole point is a "Person-to-Person" network. Sure, you can search the entire library, but when you download "Enter Sandman.mp3" - YOU connect to JONNYMETALLICAFAN and make the transfer - it's not an FTP or "public" site. Yes, I know, this is stretching it thin, but that *is* the way Napster has phrased this, is it not? If I email you an attachment, that attachment (not counting mail gateways, virus scanners, corporate filters) is between you and I.
Yeah, it sucks that Metallica is slamming Napster - but they're not (as others have said) going after users yet - they're trying to scare Napster into legal compliance.
Sad point is, Lars - by shutting down Napster, people will just find a different way. Gnutella, IRC, ICQ, etc., etc., etc. Find a better and cheaper distribution method, where I can buy ONE single at a time, and we'll flock to it.
Just my $.02, once again.
OK. How many people are actually honest-to-goodness computer newbies? Granny may be. Some others may be. But honestly, granny's going to kick off soon enough. The people we should be focusing on most are already using computers. Be it the CLI, a GUI (Pick your flavor), or a VR interface, why should we dumb things down? Isn't that the reason most of us don't LIKE Windows? Hell, Mandrake 7.0 has the xdm startup, and to use your comparisons, my mom can logon to her machine, and after a little messing about the first time she used it, she can now do whatever she likes, same as her Windows box. What we need to look at is how things are going to change - there is already *so* much data coming our way that it's becoming very difficult to deal with all effectively. Is there a way we can do that? Certainly. Unfortunately, I don't have the answers right now. If any of us did, we'd probably be making pretty good money. ;)
How about dual-boot type modes? Or a Palm-style interface? I know that works pretty well for me for the limited tasks I use it for. Click a picture, get another set - no foldouts, menus, sliders, context menus - just straightforward. When you're ready to move up, just boot into your other OS. Isn't that what most of us did when we left Windows for Linux/Unix?
What??!
I personally thought the most sad sentence of the study was on the first page, regarding a video that the two Colorado killers: "In the video, Harris and Klebold dress in trench coats, carry guns, and kill school athletes. They acted out their videotaped performance in real life less than a year later..." And the media is blaming VIDEO GAMES and EASILY AVAILABLE GUNS?!!?!??! None of the teachers immediately had these two boys examined/locked up/helped? Apparently not -- because we've seen the terrible aftermath. Perhaps someone should actually start *helping* these kids. And guys/girls - the "I'll kill you if you think my games are bad" comments *aren't* going to make a positive impression...they'll just reinforce the media's and most of society's view of /.'ers and other computer geeks/nerds/whatever you want to be called. My $.02. DJP
I did *not* know that Jon wrote for Rolling Stone. Thanks for the information.
Wow, even with the limited number of posts, some of you already slam Mr. Katz. To you I say, "Nee!" Leave him alone. This is an excellent article, and perhaps you should have read it before hitting "Page Down" repeatedly and replying "KatzSux!" or other such drivel.
/.ers are a bit of a small segment - we may think we comprise a large group, but in reality, most of the sheeple out there have no idea what Slashdot is or why we matter.
The frightening part of this article (to me) is that only a small percentage of us will see it. The liberal media won't print it, you won't see it on TV, and you know other websites won't pick up on it and let the other sheep see what's really going on. *Sigh*
Mr. Katz, I applaud you for a well-written article. I now suggest you send this article straight to several large newspapers and websites. No, they probably won't be printed/posted - but what if they were?
Anyone have any ideas how we can get more exposure?
Good Christ. OK. I'll add my $0.02 here as well. Here goes.
I am a SysAdmin for a large financial company, supporting (with about 9 others) 1500 Windows 95 clients and about 40 NT Servers. Does this suck? You bet it does. Between fscking with client machines running Novell Netware, Office, Lotus Notes (a piece of bloated crap if I ever saw - and yes, that's including the other bloatware champ, Outlook), and other miscellaneous crap) and messing with restarting apps on NT, or rebooting NT for no good reason, my days are generally very busy.
But. Insofar as installing Win95/98/NT/2000 compared to Linux/Be/pick your darned OS, I agree with one important thing that someone said earlier: If you've done it over 500 times, it gets easier!! I've done 95 and NT so much that I can do it without video (OK, maybe not, but almost). Linux? Sucked bad the first time. I had *no* friggin' idea what the hell I was doing. But guess what? The web had howto's, readmes, and a boatload of other resources -- and a damned friendly user community that was readily available to espouse advice and help.
Now, I've installed Linux more than a few times (I think I'm up to 20?). So -- I'm not as experienced as some of the rest of you who've done it 100/200/1000000+ times, but I'm learning. With practice, I bet I could do it damned fast too!
My point? Several, I think.
One: Routine does not mean easy. Sure, a brainsurgeon can do...well, whatever they do. I haven't done it. Granted, by mucking around, I likely won't get chance #2, but that's what cadavers are for.
Two: Practice Makes Perfect, right? Well, same with Windows, same with Linux, same with Be. Hell, I think Be has like, what, 3 config options? (Sorry, I don't remember, I just remember that *I* thought it was easy.) That's another point. You and I and Bob the MSCE+I may think Windows is easy, and I'm sure Eric and Gary think Linux is a cakewalk.
**This is getting longwinded, I'll wrap up** Three: Why can't we be friends? OK, yes that's corny, but by shouting about who's better, etc., why not each camp learn more (or something) about the other? IDE drive space is pretty cheap - why not use a 1GB partition for Win98 (if you own it), and Linux, and Be, and BSD, and whatever else you want! If you *don't* want, that's your prerogative (sp?). But please - if you've not got the knowledge, please refrain from screaming your vitriolic self-righteous self-serving ignorance.
Whew.
Davitt J. Potter
djpotter@nospam.crosswinds.net