But I am definitely against mandating vaccinations.
They are not mandating vaccines. They are making vaccines a requirement to attend public schools. A parent has the option of whether or not to vaccinate the child and along with the decision to not vaccinate come the decision to home school or send the child to private school.
With choice comes consequences. By choosing not to vaccinate comes the consequence of not being able to use public schools.
It is not inadmissible in court because there is no valid expectation of privacy for a vehicle license number when the vehicle is parked on the street. Anyone can write it down with the location and store it. Repo companies have these trucks looking to identify targets.
Quantity of data is not a problem at all. That is why we have computers and databases.
I wish they didn't call it an artificial pancreas as insulin is only one of hormones secreted by that organ. It also has to be re-filled with insulin while the pancreas does not. It is an automatic insulin pump not an artificial pancreas. It is a great device and does not need the hype.
You neglect the number of useless and harmful drugs that are kept off the market by the FDA. There are no numbers on how many saved because the FDA stopped them before they could do harm.
Just because it has a term does not mean it always happens.
I realize you are a libertarian but I do not agree with your philosophy. There were libertarians before the FDA and also many dangerous things on the market. The free market is not the solution. For example the FDA bans making medical claims without studies backing them up. If yoy think the free market will solve evereything then why didn't it before regulation?
UL started privately without regulations. You're missing the history. It's still private.
That is true but what I am talking about are regulations that require things to be UL certified before they can be sold. UL certification would be nowhere near as used is regulations were not in place to require it. Have you even looked into how much UL certification costs? Do they even have standards for juice?
thought people stopped believing the lies from big tobacco 30-40 years ago.
So to compensate for the FDA under regulating decades ago you accuse the FDA of over regulating now.
You have to pay to be certified by UL and the only people who do are the ones required to by regulations.
Liability insurance comes into effect after the fact. It does not stop people from being harmed by bad products. It also only helps if the manufacturer have insurance. Many are off shore and will just change their name if sued. Insurance is not a solution.
The difference is that this is an online poll that anyone who knew about it could vote. There were many posts to the site encouraging people to vote for "Boaty McBoatface". It is a nonsense poll with no consequences as most of the people who voted for "Boaty MvBoatface" thought it would never get that name and voted just for the fun of it. Votes in a real election are far more important and far better considered when cast.
Weirum vs RKO is very different in that there was a definite prize involved and the contest was basically a race. The prize was specifically for being at a designated place first. That makes it a race. It is perfectly reasonable that people would drive illegally during a race. This is the same reason Dominos no longer does the 30 minutes or less delivery. When you turn somthing into a race it is perfectly reasonable that people will do stupid things.
In the Snapchat case it is not reasonable that displaying information would make someone want to max it. There was also no prize involved. Should they also remove the temperature filter as it may induce people to freeze to death or die of head stroke?
I agree with you that the lawyer will probably frame it that way. I just don't agree that the argument is valid. By that logic the ability to take a picture of a speedometer is inducement to break the law.
The fact is that the reason the driver was speeding was specifically so that she could use Snapchat to show how fast she was driving.
The fact is that the driver chose to break the law and endanger other people for the selfish reason of taking a snap at high speed. If a driver speeds so that they can take a picture of themselves and the speedometer the car manufacturer should be sued? Snapchat didn't force or even tell her to speed. It was the driver's choice. I guess Snapchat should remove the temperature filter before someone chooses to freeze to death or die of heat stroke by trying to go to the extreme./sarcasm
Anyone can sue anyone not matter how unreasonable the claim. The claim against Snapchat is unreasonable.
shop at stores who have a 3rd party you trust validate and sign-off on the fact that their list is accurate
So basically you want a private company to do the testing rather than the government. There is no such thing as an independent 3rd party. To get such a certification done money will have to change hands. Once money changes hands there is an incentive to skew results. What is to say that the big companies can not pay these certification companies to keep out the competition? I trust the government much more than I trust a private profit motivated company.
In what world is the FDA best equipped to know what's being sold?
In the same world where the FDA regulates all other foods and drugs.
Are they going to visit stores and test the products before you actually purchase them?
You have no Idea how regulations work. The FDA will set out rules for ingredients and approvals that must be followed before a product is put on the market.
In this specific case, its obvious the regulations are there to ensure large companies
BS. There are already cases of Chinese companies putting dangerous chemicals into juice.
You also have a major issue in that local shops generally do not make their own juice. They sell juice made by much larger companies.
No, we'd prefer unregulated capitalism which allows people to be responsible for their own choices
So basically do away with the FDA completely. Sorry but that is not going to happen. It is hard to be responsible for one's own choice when you don't know the science and/or are being fed false information by the manufacturers. Not everyone has multiple PHD's, access to state of the art labs and money to do studies. The FDA has all that.
Lane following/distance holding is a relatively simple process. Even that has major flaws. The Tesla with lane following tries to take every exit because all it is doing is following the white line. Try current technology in rain or snow. It does not work. Even the Google car has to have the route pre-scanned and gone over by a person every so often so that their cars can drive on it. We are far from true autonomous driving.
When no one has the ingredients on the label or puts false ingredients on the label that is just fine. Everyone does not have a lab to analyze the contents of what they purchase. I am sure you are an expert in the chemistry of everything you buy.
Regulations are there to protect people from companies putting people's health at risk just to lower costs and raise profits.
So you would basically prefer unregulated capitalism that kills people. I don't. Libertarians are against government regulation until something goes wrong and then complain that the government did not do enough.
and your local shop is going to spend how much applying for approval on each style of vaping they create?
The manufacturer and not the local shop would make the application.
Do you really think it is wise to allow anyone to mix any chemicals they desire into a liquid and market it as a safe alternative to smoking? There are many cheap chemicals that are detrimantal to heath that are already being used in in juice. Diacetal which can cause popcorn lung is one of them. Who do you think should regulate vaping?
The temperature filter also records the temperature when taking the picture. Does that mean that Snapchat should be libel for someone who encloses themselves in a car on a hot day and dies of heat stroke? Displaying a measurement is not an inducement to take that measurement to the extreme.
I wasn't going to mention either. By your logic why not just send the bill to a random company? They would have as much to blame for this accident as Snapchat.
What made you think I want to engage in some stupid argument about the features of Snapchat, an app that I have never used?
You posted a reply so it is pretty reasonable to assume you are willing to discuss the issue. Posting a second reply adds further evidence further.
You're welcome to debate the meaning of phrases like "trophy",
There is no debate over the meaning of Snapchat trophy. They are emojis that appear on the trophy case.
Your entire argument is pointless because it's completely irrelevant to the case that was actually filed.
The complaint claims the following;
McGee was motivated to drive at an excessive speed in order to obtain recognition through Snapchat by means of a Snapchat "trophy"
Whether or not the "trophy" exists is very relevant. If it did exist Snapchat would be in trouble. Since it does not exist Snapchat should not be involved. Would Snapchat be liable if someone died in an overheated car because they attempted to get the, also non-existent, "high temperature trophy"?
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But I am definitely against mandating vaccinations.
They are not mandating vaccines. They are making vaccines a requirement to attend public schools. A parent has the option of whether or not to vaccinate the child and along with the decision to not vaccinate come the decision to home school or send the child to private school.
With choice comes consequences. By choosing not to vaccinate comes the consequence of not being able to use public schools.
If you equate logging the location of a vehicle one or twice a month as tracking then the problem is with you.
It is not inadmissible in court because there is no valid expectation of privacy for a vehicle license number when the vehicle is parked on the street. Anyone can write it down with the location and store it. Repo companies have these trucks looking to identify targets.
Quantity of data is not a problem at all. That is why we have computers and databases.
1. Finding cars with large numbers of parking tickers (See "Parking Wars")
2. Finding wanted vehicles, fugitive warrants, suspended or revoked drivers’ license and stolen cars.
A few vehicles driving around a large city will scan every car maybe once a month. That is useless to track a vehicle's movement.
I wish they didn't call it an artificial pancreas as insulin is only one of hormones secreted by that organ. It also has to be re-filled with insulin while the pancreas does not. It is an automatic insulin pump not an artificial pancreas. It is a great device and does not need the hype.
You neglect the number of useless and harmful drugs that are kept off the market by the FDA. There are no numbers on how many saved because the FDA stopped them before they could do harm.
Just because it has a term does not mean it always happens.
I realize you are a libertarian but I do not agree with your philosophy. There were libertarians before the FDA and also many dangerous things on the market. The free market is not the solution. For example the FDA bans making medical claims without studies backing them up. If yoy think the free market will solve evereything then why didn't it before regulation?
UL started privately without regulations. You're missing the history. It's still private.
That is true but what I am talking about are regulations that require things to be UL certified before they can be sold. UL certification would be nowhere near as used is regulations were not in place to require it. Have you even looked into how much UL certification costs? Do they even have standards for juice?
thought people stopped believing the lies from big tobacco 30-40 years ago.
So to compensate for the FDA under regulating decades ago you accuse the FDA of over regulating now.
You have to pay to be certified by UL and the only people who do are the ones required to by regulations.
Liability insurance comes into effect after the fact. It does not stop people from being harmed by bad products. It also only helps if the manufacturer have insurance. Many are off shore and will just change their name if sued. Insurance is not a solution.
The exception that proves the rule?
Taken to the extreme, you're trying to suggest that camera makers should be responsible
I do not think that should happen just as I dont thing Snapchat should be pat of this lawsuit.
I have no doubt that there is a lawyer somewhere who would take that case, but in that case the person is only endangering themselves.
And any friend they convinced to do it with them.
If it was me that got hit I would also want to strike out against the culture that enables a...
Too bad the law does not allow you to do anything you want.
Hey, we'll name this ship after the most popular name'
Did they really say that or something closer to "We will your your votes to help us pick the name"?
The difference is that this is an online poll that anyone who knew about it could vote. There were many posts to the site encouraging people to vote for "Boaty McBoatface". It is a nonsense poll with no consequences as most of the people who voted for "Boaty MvBoatface" thought it would never get that name and voted just for the fun of it.
Votes in a real election are far more important and far better considered when cast.
Weirum vs RKO is very different in that there was a definite prize involved and the contest was basically a race. The prize was specifically for being at a designated place first. That makes it a race. It is perfectly reasonable that people would drive illegally during a race. This is the same reason Dominos no longer does the 30 minutes or less delivery. When you turn somthing into a race it is perfectly reasonable that people will do stupid things.
In the Snapchat case it is not reasonable that displaying information would make someone want to max it. There was also no prize involved. Should they also remove the temperature filter as it may induce people to freeze to death or die of head stroke?
I agree with you that the lawyer will probably frame it that way. I just don't agree that the argument is valid. By that logic the ability to take a picture of a speedometer is inducement to break the law.
The fact is that the reason the driver was speeding was specifically so that she could use Snapchat to show how fast she was driving.
The fact is that the driver chose to break the law and endanger other people for the selfish reason of taking a snap at high speed. If a driver speeds so that they can take a picture of themselves and the speedometer the car manufacturer should be sued? Snapchat didn't force or even tell her to speed. It was the driver's choice. I guess Snapchat should remove the temperature filter before someone chooses to freeze to death or die of heat stroke by trying to go to the extreme./sarcasm
Anyone can sue anyone not matter how unreasonable the claim. The claim against Snapchat is unreasonable.
shop at stores who have a 3rd party you trust validate and sign-off on the fact that their list is accurate
So basically you want a private company to do the testing rather than the government. There is no such thing as an independent 3rd party. To get such a certification done money will have to change hands. Once money changes hands there is an incentive to skew results. What is to say that the big companies can not pay these certification companies to keep out the competition? I trust the government much more than I trust a private profit motivated company.
In what world is the FDA best equipped to know what's being sold?
In the same world where the FDA regulates all other foods and drugs.
Are they going to visit stores and test the products before you actually purchase them?
You have no Idea how regulations work. The FDA will set out rules for ingredients and approvals that must be followed before a product is put on the market.
In this specific case, its obvious the regulations are there to ensure large companies
BS. There are already cases of Chinese companies putting dangerous chemicals into juice.
You also have a major issue in that local shops generally do not make their own juice. They sell juice made by much larger companies.
No, we'd prefer unregulated capitalism which allows people to be responsible for their own choices
So basically do away with the FDA completely. Sorry but that is not going to happen. It is hard to be responsible for one's own choice when you don't know the science and/or are being fed false information by the manufacturers. Not everyone has multiple PHD's, access to state of the art labs and money to do studies. The FDA has all that.
Lane following/distance holding is a relatively simple process. Even that has major flaws. The Tesla with lane following tries to take every exit because all it is doing is following the white line. Try current technology in rain or snow. It does not work. Even the Google car has to have the route pre-scanned and gone over by a person every so often so that their cars can drive on it. We are far from true autonomous driving.
When no one has the ingredients on the label or puts false ingredients on the label that is just fine. Everyone does not have a lab to analyze the contents of what they purchase. I am sure you are an expert in the chemistry of everything you buy.
Regulations are there to protect people from companies putting people's health at risk just to lower costs and raise profits.
So you would basically prefer unregulated capitalism that kills people. I don't. Libertarians are against government regulation until something goes wrong and then complain that the government did not do enough.
and your local shop is going to spend how much applying for approval on each style of vaping they create?
The manufacturer and not the local shop would make the application.
Do you really think it is wise to allow anyone to mix any chemicals they desire into a liquid and market it as a safe alternative to smoking? There are many cheap chemicals that are detrimantal to heath that are already being used in in juice. Diacetal which can cause popcorn lung is one of them. Who do you think should regulate vaping?
Too bad this Darwin award could have taken 5 other people with it.
What is the incentive to go faster? There is no "trophy".
The lawsuit is claiming the driver drove too fast due to Snapchat. The accident was a side effect of the speed.
If I was driving a vehicle I would carry sufficient uninsured/under insured coverage to handle these situations.
The temperature filter also records the temperature when taking the picture. Does that mean that Snapchat should be libel for someone who encloses themselves in a car on a hot day and dies of heat stroke? Displaying a measurement is not an inducement to take that measurement to the extreme.
I wasn't going to mention either. By your logic why not just send the bill to a random company? They would have as much to blame for this accident as Snapchat.
What made you think I want to engage in some stupid argument about the features of Snapchat, an app that I have never used?
You posted a reply so it is pretty reasonable to assume you are willing to discuss the issue. Posting a second reply adds further evidence further .
You're welcome to debate the meaning of phrases like "trophy",
There is no debate over the meaning of Snapchat trophy. They are emojis that appear on the trophy case.
Your entire argument is pointless because it's completely irrelevant to the case that was actually filed.
The complaint claims the following;
McGee was motivated to drive at an excessive speed in order to obtain recognition through Snapchat by means of a Snapchat "trophy"
Whether or not the "trophy" exists is very relevant. If it did exist Snapchat would be in trouble. Since it does not exist Snapchat should not be involved. Would Snapchat be liable if someone died in an overheated car because they attempted to get the, also non-existent, "high temperature trophy"?