> I think the primary complaint (at least for me) for most flash games is the on hover effect
Sorry, this is irrelevant FUD. In what universe are hover effects a necessary requirement for Flash apps? If hover does not work on mobile devices then guess what - people will not make Flash apps for mobile devices that use hover effects! And if they do make stupid apps targeted at a device that rely on features the device doesn't have (why anybody thinks this would happen is beyond me) then Steve has all the power in the world to ban those apps from his app store.
A) Yeah, it was sorta a FUD point, but at the same time, most of the games that people LIKE on flash right now benefit from hover. I watch my nephew play flash games on his netbook, and I see it quite a bit. So to use EXISTING games on the iPhone/iPad requires hover. B) I totally failed to include in my consideration normal html/js/css rollover, but I don't see that day to day on my own platforms except gmail (IMAP to phone), twitter (echofon so the web interface is pointless to me, yay hypercards, who cares) and maybe a couple others, so I really don't notice mouseovers except in the case of flash.
The reason he doesn't want these kind of apps is obvious. Flash is a portable platform. A Flash game made for iPhone will run unchanged on Android. And Blackberry. And Windows Phone. He *knows* that if this stuff is allowed then the iPhone will lose its exclusivity & market advantage overnight as the world is swamped with Flash mobile content since developing once instead of 3 times cuts the cost dramatically. It's all about lock in, control, power. It's anti-developer, anti-competitive and ultimately anti-consumer because choice is reduced and cost is increased - all to benefit Apple's bottom line.
Yeah, I know. What's your point? I prefer apps that use the hardware without an extra layer. If I want generic apps, I'll use a webapp. So really the flash apps that don't use phone specific features should just be webapps. Then when you write a webapp then I won't have to care what my platform is, will I?
Damnit, I KNEW I shoulda gotten an N900, but I'm "supporting" my extended family on 3G's, so I got myself a nice 32GB 3GS (and six months before "4" no less, but my WinMo was finally annoying me too much!!!).
Well if we had separate mouse and click on the i that wouldn't matter either would it? But touching and holding the screen is a click, not a mouseover.
Also, as the guy above pointed out, I'm also not using CSS/javascript rollovers on my iPhone. I guess devs figured out that was too tricky? Either that or they've replaced them with swipe bars I think.
OOOOOH that would! be nice. Why haven't I considered that as a basic requirement of video for years? Now I'll be looking for that bit of functionality to find it's way in somewhere. I don't know whether to thank you for genius or curse you for the same. My mind may be wracked for years.;)
I think the primary complaint (at least for me) for most flash games is the on hover effect. How do you replicate that with a touch interface? Now we have all sorts of wild gestures, so it reduces the simplicity.
If you can resolve that, I might reconsider my personal stance.
Remarkably the last three all still suffer the same problem. Somewhere sometime there is going to be a big brother or other provider who will stop you just the same as the local neighborhood ISP. Shame tho. Would be nice to setup a neighborhood co-op and bypass those regs.
I realize the OP was being a troll, but please mod the parent up./.ers need this awareness. Facebook is not for/.ers, it is for our mom's and our SOs. The ones who don't understand why a cryptographically hard password is important.
Yeah but what's weird for me is seeing the ATT traveling through one of the ATT-partner networks coming out of PA. So 99% of my gmail access tends to be from 2 local IP addresses, but the iPhone shows up as a PA geo-IP.
Go figure.
Point is, people may not realize that their phone is showing up as coming from somewhere not-local and they'll think they've been had. Well, hopefully this group is smarter than that.
Like velcro? Seriously, Hollywood told me it came from aliens!!! And also acid-spit that doesn't dissolve the mouth it's in but eats everything else. That's real!!! HONEST!!
I can usually tell because I usually have the IDE reformat the text according to my preferences. They have yet to learn that trick. So I can tell based on formatting (and nonprinting chars like \t ) if I wrote it or someone else doctored it after me. Of course, changelogs and revision history helps.
When it comes to the actual code structure, they tend to split declaration and assignment, do things out of logical order (no, asking them proves they don't understand how to group things) and they tend to duplicate code for no reason.
damnit if you would only post under your real name I would like to hear more about that. The fact that you're posting as AC only makes it seem totally bogus and idiotic. Sorry, but that's the price of anonymousness.
"Why"? To have prior case study so that we can debunk future ones by showing frivolity. About the only good reason I can think up.
Then again, this audience probably knows more about the inner workings of such a device than the general public, so we're quick to dismiss obvious BS claims whereas another peer group might not understand what's going on here.
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> I think the primary complaint (at least for me) for most flash games is the on hover effect
Sorry, this is irrelevant FUD. In what universe are hover effects a necessary requirement for Flash apps? If hover does not work on mobile devices then guess what - people will not make Flash apps for mobile devices that use hover effects! And if they do make stupid apps targeted at a device that rely on features the device doesn't have (why anybody thinks this would happen is beyond me) then Steve has all the power in the world to ban those apps from his app store.
A) Yeah, it was sorta a FUD point, but at the same time, most of the games that people LIKE on flash right now benefit from hover. I watch my nephew play flash games on his netbook, and I see it quite a bit. So to use EXISTING games on the iPhone/iPad requires hover.
B) I totally failed to include in my consideration normal html/js/css rollover, but I don't see that day to day on my own platforms except gmail (IMAP to phone), twitter (echofon so the web interface is pointless to me, yay hypercards, who cares) and maybe a couple others, so I really don't notice mouseovers except in the case of flash.
The reason he doesn't want these kind of apps is obvious. Flash is a portable platform. A Flash game made for iPhone will run unchanged on Android. And Blackberry. And Windows Phone. He *knows* that if this stuff is allowed then the iPhone will lose its exclusivity & market advantage overnight as the world is swamped with Flash mobile content since developing once instead of 3 times cuts the cost dramatically. It's all about lock in, control, power. It's anti-developer, anti-competitive and ultimately anti-consumer because choice is reduced and cost is increased - all to benefit Apple's bottom line.
Yeah, I know. What's your point? I prefer apps that use the hardware without an extra layer. If I want generic apps, I'll use a webapp. So really the flash apps that don't use phone specific features should just be webapps. Then when you write a webapp then I won't have to care what my platform is, will I?
Damnit, I KNEW I shoulda gotten an N900, but I'm "supporting" my extended family on 3G's, so I got myself a nice 32GB 3GS (and six months before "4" no less, but my WinMo was finally annoying me too much!!!).
Well if we had separate mouse and click on the i that wouldn't matter either would it? But touching and holding the screen is a click, not a mouseover.
Also, as the guy above pointed out, I'm also not using CSS/javascript rollovers on my iPhone. I guess devs figured out that was too tricky? Either that or they've replaced them with swipe bars I think.
Touche (pun intended?)!
I hadn't considered that, because I use so few sites with rollover. Good call. Pardon me while I
. /facepalm
OOOOOH that would! be nice. Why haven't I considered that as a basic requirement of video for years? Now I'll be looking for that bit of functionality to find it's way in somewhere. I don't know whether to thank you for genius or curse you for the same. My mind may be wracked for years. ;)
I think the primary complaint (at least for me) for most flash games is the on hover effect. How do you replicate that with a touch interface? Now we have all sorts of wild gestures, so it reduces the simplicity.
If you can resolve that, I might reconsider my personal stance.
How the hell was that flamebait? Offtopic or unfunny perhaps, but did I criticize Google or something? I'ld take even troll for that one.
Anyways, not like the ole karma will take a hit off this one, but I'm just curious who the hell thought I was flamebaiting...
Remarkably the last three all still suffer the same problem. Somewhere sometime there is going to be a big brother or other provider who will stop you just the same as the local neighborhood ISP. Shame tho. Would be nice to setup a neighborhood co-op and bypass those regs.
No it looks like Google is still six months out from being productive on this one. thanks tho.
Apparently you've not used an HTC (re)designed interface for a mobile phone.
Yeah, they have a concept of what it means to really use a phone, most days.
Was that 152,00 Euro?
I realize the OP was being a troll, but please mod the parent up. /.ers need this awareness. Facebook is not for /.ers, it is for our mom's and our SOs. The ones who don't understand why a cryptographically hard password is important.
Because we are social
In retrospect, hitting the submit button was a poor decision.
It always is my friend... it always is.
Yeah but what's weird for me is seeing the ATT traveling through one of the ATT-partner networks coming out of PA. So 99% of my gmail access tends to be from 2 local IP addresses, but the iPhone shows up as a PA geo-IP.
Go figure.
Point is, people may not realize that their phone is showing up as coming from somewhere not-local and they'll think they've been had. Well, hopefully this group is smarter than that.
There's been quite a bit of talk on this lately. See for instance this post at Sophos (not exactly a no-name company) http://www.sophos.com/blogs/sophoslabs/?p=1156
She had a pathetic password, so I wasn't too surprised.
Was it "cravf" or "*******"?
I don't understand your post. It appears to have been garbled on the way in. Can you repost?
In retrospect, s/How's it run off the SD card?/How's the performance when you run it off the SD card?/g
How's it run off the SD card? I never even considered doing that but now that it's been said /facepalm
That's brilliant. Do you run into any issues doing this?
Actually those logos tend to have an arrow-like shape. Reckon how that plays into things. What if they were more octagonal?
Like velcro? Seriously, Hollywood told me it came from aliens!!! And also acid-spit that doesn't dissolve the mouth it's in but eats everything else. That's real!!! HONEST!!
ctrl-k ctrl-d for the win!
I can usually tell because I usually have the IDE reformat the text according to my preferences. They have yet to learn that trick. So I can tell based on formatting (and nonprinting chars like \t ) if I wrote it or someone else doctored it after me. Of course, changelogs and revision history helps.
When it comes to the actual code structure, they tend to split declaration and assignment, do things out of logical order (no, asking them proves they don't understand how to group things) and they tend to duplicate code for no reason.
Yeah, I would probably like to be on your team. ;)
It's about Tourette's and you're modding me offtopic and trolling? Wow. That's just.... Wow.
Ok mods, lighten up already. (oh, and I'm soooo not worried about the karma hit, just thought the mods were highly strung)
damnit if you would only post under your real name I would like to hear more about that. The fact that you're posting as AC only makes it seem totally bogus and idiotic. Sorry, but that's the price of anonymousness.
"Why"? To have prior case study so that we can debunk future ones by showing frivolity. About the only good reason I can think up.
Then again, this audience probably knows more about the inner workings of such a device than the general public, so we're quick to dismiss obvious BS claims whereas another peer group might not understand what's going on here.