I have to disagree; Open Source is a better term to use. No matter how much RMS talks about being "business-friendly," the people who consider themselves to be Free Software advocates seem to have a happy little cult all their own where Free Software is the only way to go, and if you grant freedoms for your software that don't match their concept of what freedom is, prepare for the flames.
Leave the Free Software snobs to themselves and join the Open Source revolution. It may not be "pure" but it's a happy world of acceptance.
I've ranted on this one a few times and I end up talking to myself every time, too.
Face it, the kiddies just wanna be smart asses and throw that in your face in *any* discussion about building the perfect filemanager. This is/. and no-one seems to be interested in intelligent discussion--just parroting neat little CLI tricks someone taught them while they stood by slackjawed wondering WTF all the gobbledyook was. It's a pity, because/. could be such a wonderful tool for disseminating information and intelligent discussion. Instead, we get,
...current memory usage is through the roof. Unless they've done a lot of cleaning-up and optimizing in the last week-and-a-half, I was having trouble keeping the damn thing running. I found out why. Memory usage, opening directories like my home dir, was around 256MB(!) before it would crash. When sitting idle, just making a pretty desktop (and boy, do it look purdy) it was using between 10MB and 30MB.
Memory usage is still an issue...even if I had 512MB of memory, I wouldn't devote even half that even temporarily just for the damn file manager.
Here at SIUC, I slept, and I'm going to vote today. I don't even know where yet; I don't live on campus. This isn't even the first Presidential election I've been eligible to vote in; however, it will be the first I'm voting in. Last time, I was living away from home and registered in my home district. Ugh.
Anyway, I'm torn. Bush is a businessman; I'm still torn as to whether or not he's an idiot or just can't talk. I'm reasonably sure that Gore is insane. Nader? Dunno about that. Buchanan has no support. I'd like to write in McCain if the man would appreciate the vote...damn.
Moderators are just regular readers who get moderator points randomly thrown at them. 'Course you wouldn't know that because being a trollbot means you don't get good enough karma to have moderator points randomly thrown at you.;)
You think the PS2 shouldn't be hyped as a DVD player because:
a.) YOU have a computer
b.) YOU have a DVD player
Super, thanks for sharing, but the universe suddenly stopped revolving around you.
I don't have a DVD player and was actually considering getting a PS2 BEFORE I knew about the DVD functionality...if I get a PS2 I WON'T be purchasing a separate DVD player at this time. As a college student I simply don't have the funds for both. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Don't eat any food that you do not have Free access to. This includes preparation of ingredients, a detailed list of ingredients, a detailed recipe, and the freedom to distribute your own version with or without a fee.
Citizens, unite! Do not eat another KFC chicken leg or drink another Coca-Cola! Boycot non-Free foods!
Oh, and of course the distribution of non-Free music. Please do not use gnapster as it is software used to connect to a non-Free network, used to distribute mostly non-Free music in a non-Free format. Please distribute only Free music encoded in Ogg Vorbis format using Freenet.
You have a $120 DVD player, you have a $1250 computer that has more power than the PS2, and therefore see no point to this story or any point in the PS2.
Can I come over and watch Monty Python DVDs and play some games? I thought not. Bugger off; you're not the only Slashdot reader, you know.
Yeah, but if they ran a Red Hat story, then we'd just get all the "/. is not Linux-specific" assholes posting...and if it was BSD, then all the "WTF is a BSD story doing here" assholes would start posting...
This loosening of the definition of linking. It sounds as if RMS would like to extend the definition of linking to more generic terms...sounds almost as if he wants the definition to include any working together of code.
Here's my concern. Let's say I write a neat little utility called "foo" and I decide that, since it's so neat and useful, and because I percieve a great need for the thing in the business world, I exercise my freedom to license my software under whatever license I want and license it under a "non-Free" free-for-non-commercial-use license. My neat little hypothetical util likes to dump a lot of useful information to standard out, and does so non-interactively so that the user can filter the output in whatever format they need. The simplest case for this hypothetical case will be:
foo | less
Whoa whoa whoa! I see a pipe there. That's IPC. What if the particular less we're communicating with here is GPL3? Is this something that will be made "illegal" by the new GPL? Would I have to distribute my own filtering utils? Will I have to provide my *own* functionality (probably gleaned from BSD;-)?
I only bring up this hypothetical situation because it seems to me that RMS firmly believes that businesses will not consider releasing code under the GPL because of the possibility of a competitor circumventing the GPL to write a closed-source wrapper. What about those who simply want a different license?
Yes I'm going to feed the troll now. Yes I'm certain.
The thing is, this isn't some highly-publicized event like the rollout of Win95. You'd have to have been in some backwaters part of the world to have missed Microsoft's media blitz on that one. Certainly, it would be hard to be on the net (reading/. is kinda hard without Internet access) and not realize that WinME and Win2k are busy trying to wreck the software world. The "to-do" list of XAnim isn't all that well-publicized. Most people check up on this one as often as they check up on, say, XV or linux-utils. It's news.
MTV will play full-screen and only quits after a little bit if you don't pay for it. The command line tool (mtvplay, IIRC) isn't restricted, but doesn't have nice controls (just plays.)
Hrm, is someone moderating their own submissions?
Methinks yes.
Good for you. It's rare for a person to be so willing to demonstrate both arrogance and ignorance...oh wait, that's not true.
I have to disagree; Open Source is a better term to use. No matter how much RMS talks about being "business-friendly," the people who consider themselves to be Free Software advocates seem to have a happy little cult all their own where Free Software is the only way to go, and if you grant freedoms for your software that don't match their concept of what freedom is, prepare for the flames.
Leave the Free Software snobs to themselves and join the Open Source revolution. It may not be "pure" but it's a happy world of acceptance.
www.enlightenment.org has lots of fun news about Enlightenment.
And this somehow makes it OK to be an annoying bastard, posting "funny" comments about typos.
Hell, there's not even a correct way to pronounce Linux; what's the problem? ;-)
Ya just reminded me...
a stable version of FSViewer.app was just released. =)
Um, yeah. Bash someone for using GNOME. Thanks. Exactly why I refuse to even learn about Qt coding, let alone KDE.
Yup
/. and no-one seems to be interested in intelligent discussion--just parroting neat little CLI tricks someone taught them while they stood by slackjawed wondering WTF all the gobbledyook was. It's a pity, because /. could be such a wonderful tool for disseminating information and intelligent discussion. Instead, we get,
I've ranted on this one a few times and I end up talking to myself every time, too.
Face it, the kiddies just wanna be smart asses and throw that in your face in *any* discussion about building the perfect filemanager. This is
"Fr1st ps0t!
M0d m3 d0wn fuck3n m0der4t0rZ"
Sad, isn't it.
...current memory usage is through the roof. Unless they've done a lot of cleaning-up and optimizing in the last week-and-a-half, I was having trouble keeping the damn thing running. I found out why. Memory usage, opening directories like my home dir, was around 256MB(!) before it would crash. When sitting idle, just making a pretty desktop (and boy, do it look purdy) it was using between 10MB and 30MB.
Memory usage is still an issue...even if I had 512MB of memory, I wouldn't devote even half that even temporarily just for the damn file manager.
I assume, of course, that you never check out links in posted news stories.
BWAHAHA you're a moron.
Here at SIUC, I slept, and I'm going to vote today. I don't even know where yet; I don't live on campus. This isn't even the first Presidential election I've been eligible to vote in; however, it will be the first I'm voting in. Last time, I was living away from home and registered in my home district. Ugh.
Anyway, I'm torn. Bush is a businessman; I'm still torn as to whether or not he's an idiot or just can't talk. I'm reasonably sure that Gore is insane. Nader? Dunno about that. Buchanan has no support. I'd like to write in McCain if the man would appreciate the vote...damn.
Erm
;)
Moderators are just regular readers who get moderator points randomly thrown at them. 'Course you wouldn't know that because being a trollbot means you don't get good enough karma to have moderator points randomly thrown at you.
Ok, let me get this straight...
You think the PS2 shouldn't be hyped as a DVD player because:
a.) YOU have a computer
b.) YOU have a DVD player
Super, thanks for sharing, but the universe suddenly stopped revolving around you.
I don't have a DVD player and was actually considering getting a PS2 BEFORE I knew about the DVD functionality...if I get a PS2 I WON'T be purchasing a separate DVD player at this time. As a college student I simply don't have the funds for both. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Please Do Not Feed The Trolls
*sarcasm alert*
Non-Free Food, of course!
Don't eat any food that you do not have Free access to. This includes preparation of ingredients, a detailed list of ingredients, a detailed recipe, and the freedom to distribute your own version with or without a fee.
Citizens, unite! Do not eat another KFC chicken leg or drink another Coca-Cola! Boycot non-Free foods!
Oh, and of course the distribution of non-Free music. Please do not use gnapster as it is software used to connect to a non-Free network, used to distribute mostly non-Free music in a non-Free format. Please distribute only Free music encoded in Ogg Vorbis format using Freenet.
;)
Come back in 6 months and tell me if the PS2 is selling for $5,000.
You have a $120 DVD player, you have a $1250 computer that has more power than the PS2, and therefore see no point to this story or any point in the PS2.
Can I come over and watch Monty Python DVDs and play some games? I thought not. Bugger off; you're not the only Slashdot reader, you know.
Yeah, but if they ran a Red Hat story, then we'd just get all the "/. is not Linux-specific" assholes posting...and if it was BSD, then all the "WTF is a BSD story doing here" assholes would start posting...
*sigh* everyone's a critic
This loosening of the definition of linking. It sounds as if RMS would like to extend the definition of linking to more generic terms...sounds almost as if he wants the definition to include any working together of code.
Here's my concern. Let's say I write a neat little utility called "foo" and I decide that, since it's so neat and useful, and because I percieve a great need for the thing in the business world, I exercise my freedom to license my software under whatever license I want and license it under a "non-Free" free-for-non-commercial-use license. My neat little hypothetical util likes to dump a lot of useful information to standard out, and does so non-interactively so that the user can filter the output in whatever format they need. The simplest case for this hypothetical case will be:
foo | less
Whoa whoa whoa! I see a pipe there. That's IPC. What if the particular less we're communicating with here is GPL3? Is this something that will be made "illegal" by the new GPL? Would I have to distribute my own filtering utils? Will I have to provide my *own* functionality (probably gleaned from BSD;-)?
I only bring up this hypothetical situation because it seems to me that RMS firmly believes that businesses will not consider releasing code under the GPL because of the possibility of a competitor circumventing the GPL to write a closed-source wrapper. What about those who simply want a different license?
Not sure how that applies to BeOS. Elaborate.
Yes I'm going to feed the troll now. Yes I'm certain.
/. is kinda hard without Internet access) and not realize that WinME and Win2k are busy trying to wreck the software world. The "to-do" list of XAnim isn't all that well-publicized. Most people check up on this one as often as they check up on, say, XV or linux-utils. It's news.
The thing is, this isn't some highly-publicized event like the rollout of Win95. You'd have to have been in some backwaters part of the world to have missed Microsoft's media blitz on that one. Certainly, it would be hard to be on the net (reading
MTV will play full-screen and only quits after a little bit if you don't pay for it. The command line tool (mtvplay, IIRC) isn't restricted, but doesn't have nice controls (just plays.)
Um, that's funny, I haven't visited the XAnim site since some time in '99, so this was news to me.
I'm betting I'm not alone.