Erm, xanim was around well before SMPEG, and a long time before XMPS. The proper question is why did we need SMPEG and XMPS when all XAnim needed was cleaning up and extra modules?
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I messed up part of that...I meant to state that if the teachers are docked 9 days, that means those days are simply chopped off the calendar and not made up at all. Therefore, students would miss out on two weeks of learning. Not good.
My wife teaches elementary and high-school music in little Cobden, IL (about as far from Chicago as you can get in Illinois, both geographically and philosophically). The teachers are in the middle of a *long* strike. It has been found out that the superintendent of the school was withholding funds over a legally restricted time limit (48 hours) in an attempt to deceive the teachers' union into believing that the school district would go bankrupt given *any* raise in pay. This strike started (IIRC) either at the end of September or the very beginning of October. The school board was inflexible, mainly because they firmly, genuinely believed that the school district would go bankrupt. Now, the school board, in an effort (IMHO) to save face is wanting to dock the teachers 9 days of pay. This means that not only the teachers would miss out on 9 days of pay (effectively taking away this year's raise) but would also take nearly two weeks off of the school year (if they're docked, they're not paid.)
What do community members have to say? "Good for the superintendent; those damn teachers would have wanted the money if they'd known about it" (Never mind that I and others believe that if the superintendent was capable of hiding the money for a short amount of time that he'd be equally capable and willing to embezzle the money.) "Those damn teachers are just greedy." (Teachers are among the lowest-paid workers in the U.S.; I used to work in a department store and made more money than my wife does now--and I had better benefits.) "Fire all them damn teachers; they ain't reasonable and they won't work with the school board" (yes, the people of Cobden talk like that, to my horror, and truly believe that the school board is doing right by coming to the table once or twice a week with the same proposal and stating, "take it or leave it.")
Heh, I have to agree...I was an "outcast" in high-school mainly because I saw how pathetic the "in" crowd was...the most fun I had was in college, and I was still a "loser." I was boring to the "in" crowd in college, too, but there were, frankly, people I could at least relate to and talk to/do things with if I wanted to. It's actually quite nice not having to feel like I need to "belong" with a group...it means being able to think for myself, rather than absentmindedly go with the horde mentality.
Erm, yeah; I'll add to that that, as an owner of a Voodoo3, to play certain games I have to stick with Xfree 3.x. Mandrake still ships with a crappy version of XFree 3.x (for some reason, it installs an X server named X_3DFX) which necessitated me installing a 3.x series from linux.3dfx.com...somehow, Mandrake has a more recent server for my card than 3dfx does(!) which necessitated me forcing the rpm(!) lest I be forced to uninstall every stinking X11-dependent package on the system just so I could uninstall their brain-dead X server.
No, Mandrake is not 100% ready for Windows weenies. =)
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Huh? I'm not sure why a user would think a secret hardware API is easy. I'd rather attribute the availability of drivers to the
power of that little windows certified flag on the box. "Pay us, do what we want, and you can display that symbol and people
will buy your hardware," it says to me.
*/
Erm, perhaps you misunderstood me...I say this because you first disagree with me, then make my exact point. =) The point I was getting at is that Linux seems hard and Windows seems easy because (IMHO...this may not be 100% true, take with 1 grain salt) Microsoft talks companies into releasing binary-only drivers to the world (of course, those would be Windows drivers =) and what we get in the Linux world is brilliantly reverse-engineered drivers that are totally incomprehensible to the newbie. If the hardware were documented properly, the free software community might have time to write more proper, modularised, consistently-configureable hardware drivers. =) That's all I meant by that comment.
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Were you implying that most hardware manufacturers only
felt comfortable with a binary only distrobution for their drivers?
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Precisely. =)
The point is that, rather than waiting for a totally-stable release, they chose to run early (get it in by Wal-Mart's Christmas deadline) and go with the 7.2 release *candidate*. This isn't the finished product; this is a work-in-progress being sold as the Real Thing(TM). Yeah, I've seen L-M 7.0 in Wal-Mart in the U.S., along with Red Hat. That IS NOT THE POINT. The news is that MacMillan chose to go with AN UNSTABLE RELEASE AND IS SELLING IT AS A STABLE RELEASE.
Yeah, but I think the point is that the 7.2 that shipped is, well, a release *candidate*, not the "real" 7.2. My situation isn't as bad as yours (not quite as bad, that is) but it's close.
Heh, I can at least go to staples and buy the big BSDi box if I really wanted to (which I don't.)
It's funny, yeah, but some of the comments ring a little too true: for instance, the existence of the GNOME project. Harmony would have been tough, yeah, but would it have been as tough as GNOME? It's a moot point now (it is, admit it) but how hard would it have been? You would have needed:
1.) spec writers
2.) coders
Woohoo. I firmly believe that Harmony died out of sheer boredom, nothing more.
As a user of Linux-Mandrake, I've noted its annoyingly unwavering tendency to re-write configuration files and re-set file permissions when one decides to use one of their graphical configuration tools.
That being said, are there any plans to add any such functionality to Bastille, such as, when bastille-firewall is started when entering multiuser mode, checking to make sure all its changes are still intact? Even better, perhaps setting up a cron job to run every few minutes to check to make sure, say, drakconf (or whatever a different distro uses) hasn't overwritten its changes?
Seriously, I've read more than one post from you today...all you're doing is trolling. What's the deal? Too much karma?
Bastille Linux is *not* a distribution...though you would know that if you had bothered to check the home page. No, I will NOT be linking to it here because it's in the original post (which you failed to read.) It's a set of scripts, originally very Red Hat-specific, working toward being non-distribution-specific. It's really kinda nice to be able to go through a list of plain-English questions and just pecking Enter and Tab to lock down your machine better.
Hell, the KDE and GNOME people might as well close up shop, and while we're at it, most of Microsoft, too...while we're at it, Apple as well. I mean, Xerox already invented the GUI. Why continue to develop copies of the GUI that Xerox developed when they already had it done 30 years ago? Sheesh.
Well, you're asking a highly opinionated crowd what the best distro is. I smell a flamewar coming. =)
The thing is, there really isn't a best distro--just different distros. The great thing about Slack is that it's highly configurable, and it's hard to break IMHO. The great thing about Debian (though I don't use it) is that it's simple to maintain and install (let the Debian team worry about it;) Personally, I use Linux-Mandrake, not because it's simple, but because packages are built using PGCC (for x86) and it's 99.9% Red Hat-compatible. Other people like SuSE, some people maintain "hand-built" systems...it just depends on your wants and needs.
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Erm, xanim was around well before SMPEG, and a long time before XMPS. The proper question is why did we need SMPEG and XMPS when all XAnim needed was cleaning up and extra modules?
The more plumbing you add, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
I messed up part of that...I meant to state that if the teachers are docked 9 days, that means those days are simply chopped off the calendar and not made up at all. Therefore, students would miss out on two weeks of learning. Not good.
My wife teaches elementary and high-school music in little Cobden, IL (about as far from Chicago as you can get in Illinois, both geographically and philosophically). The teachers are in the middle of a *long* strike. It has been found out that the superintendent of the school was withholding funds over a legally restricted time limit (48 hours) in an attempt to deceive the teachers' union into believing that the school district would go bankrupt given *any* raise in pay. This strike started (IIRC) either at the end of September or the very beginning of October. The school board was inflexible, mainly because they firmly, genuinely believed that the school district would go bankrupt. Now, the school board, in an effort (IMHO) to save face is wanting to dock the teachers 9 days of pay. This means that not only the teachers would miss out on 9 days of pay (effectively taking away this year's raise) but would also take nearly two weeks off of the school year (if they're docked, they're not paid.)
What do community members have to say? "Good for the superintendent; those damn teachers would have wanted the money if they'd known about it" (Never mind that I and others believe that if the superintendent was capable of hiding the money for a short amount of time that he'd be equally capable and willing to embezzle the money.) "Those damn teachers are just greedy." (Teachers are among the lowest-paid workers in the U.S.; I used to work in a department store and made more money than my wife does now--and I had better benefits.) "Fire all them damn teachers; they ain't reasonable and they won't work with the school board" (yes, the people of Cobden talk like that, to my horror, and truly believe that the school board is doing right by coming to the table once or twice a week with the same proposal and stating, "take it or leave it.")
School sucks--and not just for the kids.
Heh, I have to agree...I was an "outcast" in high-school mainly because I saw how pathetic the "in" crowd was...the most fun I had was in college, and I was still a "loser." I was boring to the "in" crowd in college, too, but there were, frankly, people I could at least relate to and talk to/do things with if I wanted to. It's actually quite nice not having to feel like I need to "belong" with a group...it means being able to think for myself, rather than absentmindedly go with the horde mentality.
Proof, dammit, proof.
And don't show me *a* proof. *Hard* proof.
Victorian-era scientists could "prove" frogs came from rain, after all.
Probably that MacMillan chose to ship a development release rather than a final, stable release (hint: it's not really 7.2.)
Erm, yeah; I'll add to that that, as an owner of a Voodoo3, to play certain games I have to stick with Xfree 3.x. Mandrake still ships with a crappy version of XFree 3.x (for some reason, it installs an X server named X_3DFX) which necessitated me installing a 3.x series from linux.3dfx.com...somehow, Mandrake has a more recent server for my card than 3dfx does(!) which necessitated me forcing the rpm(!) lest I be forced to uninstall every stinking X11-dependent package on the system just so I could uninstall their brain-dead X server.
No, Mandrake is not 100% ready for Windows weenies. =)
My first distro was Slack...I kinda know what I'm doing.
Having said that, my experience with Mandrake 7.1 was that, hey, installation was point-and-click. =)
Um, yeah.
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Huh? I'm not sure why a user would think a secret hardware API is easy. I'd rather attribute the availability of drivers to the
power of that little windows certified flag on the box. "Pay us, do what we want, and you can display that symbol and people
will buy your hardware," it says to me.
*/
Erm, perhaps you misunderstood me...I say this because you first disagree with me, then make my exact point. =) The point I was getting at is that Linux seems hard and Windows seems easy because (IMHO...this may not be 100% true, take with 1 grain salt) Microsoft talks companies into releasing binary-only drivers to the world (of course, those would be Windows drivers =) and what we get in the Linux world is brilliantly reverse-engineered drivers that are totally incomprehensible to the newbie. If the hardware were documented properly, the free software community might have time to write more proper, modularised, consistently-configureable hardware drivers. =) That's all I meant by that comment.
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Were you implying that most hardware manufacturers only
felt comfortable with a binary only distrobution for their drivers?
*/
Precisely. =)
That's totally NOT the point. Read closely.
The point is that, rather than waiting for a totally-stable release, they chose to run early (get it in by Wal-Mart's Christmas deadline) and go with the 7.2 release *candidate*. This isn't the finished product; this is a work-in-progress being sold as the Real Thing(TM). Yeah, I've seen L-M 7.0 in Wal-Mart in the U.S., along with Red Hat. That IS NOT THE POINT. The news is that MacMillan chose to go with AN UNSTABLE RELEASE AND IS SELLING IT AS A STABLE RELEASE.
I think you missed the bit in the post about the boxed version at Wal-Mart being a release *candidate* rather than the final release.
Moron.
Yeah, but I think the point is that the 7.2 that shipped is, well, a release *candidate*, not the "real" 7.2. My situation isn't as bad as yours (not quite as bad, that is) but it's close.
Heh, I can at least go to staples and buy the big BSDi box if I really wanted to (which I don't.)
Windows seems easy because:
1.) Microsoft has cut deals with hardware manufacturers to keep APIs secret
2.) In most cases, it's pre-installed
It's news that Red Hat and Linux-Mandrake are on Wal-Mart's shelves, but, hahahehehehohohohahaha, MacOS is not. =)
It's funny, yeah, but some of the comments ring a little too true: for instance, the existence of the GNOME project. Harmony would have been tough, yeah, but would it have been as tough as GNOME? It's a moot point now (it is, admit it) but how hard would it have been? You would have needed:
1.) spec writers
2.) coders
Woohoo. I firmly believe that Harmony died out of sheer boredom, nothing more.
Awww...did we disagree with the mean ol' Slashdot reader? Why was my post marked "Offtopic" but not any of the parents? Huh?
As a user of Linux-Mandrake, I've noted its annoyingly unwavering tendency to re-write configuration files and re-set file permissions when one decides to use one of their graphical configuration tools.
That being said, are there any plans to add any such functionality to Bastille, such as, when bastille-firewall is started when entering multiuser mode, checking to make sure all its changes are still intact? Even better, perhaps setting up a cron job to run every few minutes to check to make sure, say, drakconf (or whatever a different distro uses) hasn't overwritten its changes?
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I defy _anyone_ to root the box at this IP:
209.242.124.241
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Disable Telnet, you crazy fool!
I somehow managed to block *all* connections to the X server on my machine. Very funny for about 10 seconds. =)
...especially since there's no distribution named Bastille Linux.
*holds up sign*
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
thank you
Seriously, I've read more than one post from you today...all you're doing is trolling. What's the deal? Too much karma?
Bastille Linux is *not* a distribution...though you would know that if you had bothered to check the home page. No, I will NOT be linking to it here because it's in the original post (which you failed to read.) It's a set of scripts, originally very Red Hat-specific, working toward being non-distribution-specific. It's really kinda nice to be able to go through a list of plain-English questions and just pecking Enter and Tab to lock down your machine better.
Hell, the KDE and GNOME people might as well close up shop, and while we're at it, most of Microsoft, too...while we're at it, Apple as well. I mean, Xerox already invented the GUI. Why continue to develop copies of the GUI that Xerox developed when they already had it done 30 years ago? Sheesh.
Well, you're asking a highly opinionated crowd what the best distro is. I smell a flamewar coming. =)
;) Personally, I use Linux-Mandrake, not because it's simple, but because packages are built using PGCC (for x86) and it's 99.9% Red Hat-compatible. Other people like SuSE, some people maintain "hand-built" systems...it just depends on your wants and needs.
The thing is, there really isn't a best distro--just different distros. The great thing about Slack is that it's highly configurable, and it's hard to break IMHO. The great thing about Debian (though I don't use it) is that it's simple to maintain and install (let the Debian team worry about it
Azathoth lies dead yet dreaming at the bottom of one of our oceans, dreaming insane dreams (for Azathoth is insane) and is surrounded by mad pipers.
Bleh, Azathoth is an H.P. Lovecraft invention. Get over it. =)