I happen to have (OK, flame me for this) one of those "Macmillan Linux" boxes on my shelf...
The box labeled "The Complete Linux Operating System 6.0" is, in fact, Linux-Mandrake. It's not some crazy distro by Macmillan. It's Linux-Mandrake packaged by Macmillan. Linux-Mandrake is a distro put together by Mandrakesoft, not Macmillan.
Similarly, Macmillan also publishes plain-vanilla Red Hat 6.0 and Power Tools. This doesn't make them Macmillan Linux 6.0 and Macmillan Power Tools. Imagine the confusion if every company that packaged Mandrake and Red Hat just put their own name on the box. Hrm, Linux Mall Linux 6.0? CheapBytes SuSE?
Do you need DND support? Sorry, for now, it's one or the other. That will change Real Soon Now.
Do you need for your app to dock onto each of the panels that the projects have? I seem to think that both use some kinda funky proprietary extension...you'd have to check it out.
If you're just wanting to write an editor, tho, or just some app that's independent of proprietary drag-and-drop and all that, you could just use Any Old Tool Kit(TM).
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Looks like D11 is actually a proposal for an X11 replacement, but I'll bite...
Would this be possible, what the original author of the post proposes? Would it be possible to add a special case for "localhost"? I've always wondered about this. I know that some of the paleolithic "network computers" used some kind of special localhost-only X server; perhaps something like this could be done...
Just idle ramblings.
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We're not talking Linux, we're talking X. While we're at it we're talking advantages, not selling points.:^P
Quite frankly, it amuses me that, all told, despite the fact that EVERY connection to an X server is a network connection (even if the client is on the same machine) that benchmarks are comparable to Windoze systems.
I love the fact that X doesn't seem to be too much of a bottleneck for projects such as, say, Wine. I'd say, given more development (hint, hint, developers looking for a challenge:^) that Wine on X could blow the doors off of Windows.
*sighs* I just wish that people would engage their brains before replying...:^)
While it's true that most of the security "features" that Windoze has are not present in Linux, does not mean that a BO server couldn't be ported to Linux.
BTW, older versions of BO command-line clients were available for Linux--is the same true now? I don't use BO because I don't care that much (don't use Windows; don't like harassing people.)
Yeah...Win95/98 can seem to be very easy to install if all one has to do is:
1. Take computer out of box 2. Plug in keyboard, mouse, monitor, & peripherals 3. Turn on computer 4. Wait for Win98 to boot
Honestly, I've tried Red Hat (and Mandrake), SuSE, Caldera, and Slackware, and the only one that was more complex to install than Windows was Slackware. Just wait until something is misdetected under Windoze. Whoops, time to start over, or to spend the next day or so fixing everything. No thanks.
To be fair, up until recently I had a GB Exxtreme graphics card in my machine, and no one but SuSE shipped (in anything other than full X source--ugh, I don't have enough free space to compile:^( ) so, to install any of the RH 5.x series (other than the Mandrake derivative, which came with Glint RPMs) one would have to go to SuSE. I believe the reason was that the Glint X-Server was part of the XSuSE project.
I always wondered this back in the days when WordPerfect, Lotus 1-2-3, etc. etc. ad infinitum, ruled the small business world. ZD pubs always pushed Micro$~1 apps instead.
I found SuSE to be a bit too quirky for my taste, but very well put together
Then again, I did an FTP install, and YaST for some reason had to query an FTP site every time you wanted to use YaST every time you wanted to do some friggin' little change. Is it this way when you actually shell out cash for the CD? Do you have to insert your CD just to run YaST? Hrm, don't have that problem with RH...yah, I know that if I were man (stupid?) enough, I'd just fire up VI and edit.conf files till my hands go numb. But who has the time?
Oh yeah, and what's up with not shipping kernel sound modules?:^/
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Not sure how "It's about time this happened" is offtopic, folks...
:^) hehe, just kidding
...perhaps we should only let the native-English speakers be moderators?
I always thought it was funny how ZD pubs pushed Micro$oft apps when their apps weren't all that popular...
Actually, it says in 14-point type:
Linux-Mandrake(TM) 6.0 (Red Hat(R) Linux(TM) 6.0 with enhancements)
And, in much larger type:
The Complete Linux(TM) Operating System 6.0
And the logos for Macmillan Publishing USA and Mandrake are equally sized, albiet small, in the upper left-hand corner of the front of the box.
I happen to have (OK, flame me for this) one of those "Macmillan Linux" boxes on my shelf...
The box labeled "The Complete Linux Operating System 6.0" is, in fact, Linux-Mandrake. It's not some crazy distro by Macmillan. It's Linux-Mandrake packaged by Macmillan. Linux-Mandrake is a distro put together by Mandrakesoft, not Macmillan.
Similarly, Macmillan also publishes plain-vanilla Red Hat 6.0 and Power Tools. This doesn't make them Macmillan Linux 6.0 and Macmillan Power Tools. Imagine the confusion if every company that packaged Mandrake and Red Hat just put their own name on the box. Hrm, Linux Mall Linux 6.0? CheapBytes SuSE?
It depends on what functionality you need.
Do you need DND support? Sorry, for now, it's one or the other. That will change Real Soon Now.
Do you need for your app to dock onto each of the panels that the projects have? I seem to think that both use some kinda funky proprietary extension...you'd have to check it out.
If you're just wanting to write an editor, tho, or just some app that's independent of proprietary drag-and-drop and all that, you could just use Any Old Tool Kit(TM).
I'm not sure why flamebait got a score of 4.
Looks like D11 is actually a proposal for an X11 replacement, but I'll bite...
Would this be possible, what the original author of the post proposes? Would it be possible to add a special case for "localhost"? I've always wondered about this. I know that some of the paleolithic "network computers" used some kind of special localhost-only X server; perhaps something like this could be done...
Just idle ramblings.
We're not talking Linux, we're talking X. While we're at it we're talking advantages, not selling points. :^P
:^) that Wine on X could blow the doors off of Windows.
Quite frankly, it amuses me that, all told, despite the fact that EVERY connection to an X server is a network connection (even if the client is on the same machine) that benchmarks are comparable to Windoze systems.
I love the fact that X doesn't seem to be too much of a bottleneck for projects such as, say, Wine. I'd say, given more development (hint, hint, developers looking for a challenge
'Nuff said. :^)
Actually, no...with XDPC ( I think that's the name) X over a dialup line is quite bearable...try doing much of anything over a dialup using VNC 8-P
Hrm...about Netscape...I use Netscape with an XFree server and notice no problems when scrolling. What kinda card are you using?
:^)
:^)
;^)
15 toolkits to run *8* apps? Is this New Math???
I use apps from different toolkits, and they're all pretty consistENT, but that's because the toolkits all mimic Motif. (Ever heard of it?
I'd personally like to see the Windows machine that can run flawlessly for 8 hours
Are you a Microsoft troll or what?
X eats bandwidth for breakfast...sends lotsa primitives
*sighs* I just wish that people would engage their brains before replying... :^)
While it's true that most of the security "features" that Windoze has are not present in Linux, does not mean that a BO server couldn't be ported to Linux.
BTW, older versions of BO command-line clients were available for Linux--is the same true now? I don't use BO because I don't care that much (don't use Windows; don't like harassing people.)
You are.
Yeah...Win95/98 can seem to be very easy to install if all one has to do is:
:^( ) so, to install any of the RH 5.x series (other than the Mandrake derivative, which came with Glint RPMs) one would have to go to SuSE. I believe the reason was that the Glint X-Server was part of the XSuSE project.
1. Take computer out of box
2. Plug in keyboard, mouse, monitor, & peripherals
3. Turn on computer
4. Wait for Win98 to boot
Honestly, I've tried Red Hat (and Mandrake), SuSE, Caldera, and Slackware, and the only one that was more complex to install than Windows was Slackware. Just wait until something is misdetected under Windoze. Whoops, time to start over, or to spend the next day or so fixing everything. No thanks.
To be fair, up until recently I had a GB Exxtreme graphics card in my machine, and no one but SuSE shipped (in anything other than full X source--ugh, I don't have enough free space to compile
To quote Bob Metcalfe, Linux is based on 30-year-old technology...
:^P
...so, quite frankly, there's a *lot* more "legacy code" than Windows requires for Johnny Keypad's DOS games.
Quite frankly, Windows 95/98 is *much* more anal about this sort of behavior than the typical Linux distro is...
A souped up '68 Camaro will get you from NY to LA much faster than a '99 Kia will...
...but your chance of death is much greater in the Camaro.
I always wondered this back in the days when WordPerfect, Lotus 1-2-3, etc. etc. ad infinitum, ruled the small business world. ZD pubs always pushed Micro$~1 apps instead.
I believe that's "Last Train to Clarksville."
:^)
What an interesting work of fiction.
Yeah, this sounds like my last roommate's list of complaints.
Funny thing is, I'm about to get a degree, and he's not even close. Guess it's time to stop playing games...
Same for you, AC.
Tried it out...currently running RH6.
.conf files till my hands go numb. But who has the time?
:^/
I found SuSE to be a bit too quirky for my taste, but very well put together
Then again, I did an FTP install, and YaST for some reason had to query an FTP site every time you wanted to use YaST every time you wanted to do some friggin' little change. Is it this way when you actually shell out cash for the CD? Do you have to insert your CD just to run YaST? Hrm, don't have that problem with RH...yah, I know that if I were man (stupid?) enough, I'd just fire up VI and edit
Oh yeah, and what's up with not shipping kernel sound modules?
I think RMS was Lenin in a past life.
Thought nobody would catch on to the head-seek issue.