Exactly. And considering they announced getting the iPhone a month before exclusivity did end means they had to have been in negotiations for months before that. To say that they didn't jump at the chance just because it took 9 months to get a CDMA model is just the ravings of a butt hurt fandroid.
Yeah 8 whole months. And none of that could at all have had to do with having to make a different CDMA model, right? Oh and let's forget that Verizon announced getting the iPhone a month before the exclusivity ended, right? Yeah they totally didn't jump at the chance...
Uh huh. Just like how the iPod, iPhone and iPad were going to be huge flops? Does anyone still give these predictions by bitter neck beards any credence?
Huh? Most of your rant has nothing to do with what I was responding to. He was talking about replacing XP with ReactOS and as such my question was why not just continue using XP if that's what you want? What does ARM or companies not wanting to upgrade to Win or the rest of your rant have to do with anything?
What hypocrisy? They already bought the trademark before the iPad was released back in 2009. This is a bogus lawsuit but the Slashtards well revel in it because it's against Apple.
The real question is what is the harm to Nvidia for releasing the source?
The cost and time involved with properly auditing all the code, time and money spent trying to get licensors to allow source release and three time and effort to reimplement all the parts they won't be able to open source, etc. Unless the neckbeard market is going to make up for all the time and money spent, nvidia gains nothing.
I doubt that their secret sauce is in the driver, so why would it do anything but help their sales?
And you would be wrong. There is lots of optimizations and other technologies in the drivers that they don't want shared. Also, they won't gain any sales from it to warrant the effort. If their major *nix customers, CAD users, 3dfx companies, people running gpu compute clusters, etc., cared about the driver being open sources they would have already pressured them heavily about it. That a few more people in a niche market might buy more of their product does not make a compelling business case.
The point is that the "community" claimed that just releasing the hardware specs would be enough for them to do the driver work. The problem was that that wasn't true and AMD does pretty much all of it themselves.
Make them a business proposal that is with their time and effort and they might consider it. Random neckbeard boy demanding they open source their drivers will not get through.
Then release it without those parts and the community can fill in the gaps.
Yeah right. That's why despite claiming the "community" would handle the heavy lifting that AMD has basically had to do all the work themselves on their open source driver?
They get a more solid and reliable code base through the community eyes.
Uh huh. In la la land, maybe.In reality the community misses tons of bugs that persist for years.
They can't. They license lots of code from companies who wouldn't want the source released. Also, they gain nothing by doing so. The neckbeard market isn't their primary customers.
That sounds all well and good, but where's your real world results to show to us? Yes, one should always attempt to improve the state of things but dumping mature technology for untested and unproven solutions is asinine. Get back to us when some nontrivial software that can prove the claims of the designers has been written. Until then, no thanks. I have real work to do with no time to waste on something that as of right now is a toy language.
Which is a nice fantasy but the 19th century when the government was smaller is renown for the huge amounts of corruption. And, yes, it was just as damaging then as today. Also, if the libertard fantasy was true Somalia should be a utopi centralan society due to it's small and weak government. Yet, none of you libertards seem to want to move there. Maybe because the fantasy really is just a fantasy?
And being a good programmer also means you don'tÂstop using mature and battle-tested technology for something immature without good reason. Both C and C++ have plenty of issues but they have decades of experimentation and real-world experience backing them up while Rust is nothing more than a pet project with no real-world history and unknown number of issues and potential bugs. The good programmer will stick with the tried-and-true not jump to the flavor-of-the-week language just to look hip and cool. To the cargo cult programmers this is looked down on but their toy projects are meaningless tripe.
And Disney, Vivendi, Time Warner, Sony, NewsCorp and Comcast/GE (co-owners of NBC Universal) and even Viacom, at about half Google's revenue, combined eclipse Google both in political clout and far, far deeper pockets.
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Yeah a quote that has no actual historical evidence to back up its legitimacy. Want to try again?
Exactly. And considering they announced getting the iPhone a month before exclusivity did end means they had to have been in negotiations for months before that. To say that they didn't jump at the chance just because it took 9 months to get a CDMA model is just the ravings of a butt hurt fandroid.
Yeah 8 whole months. And none of that could at all have had to do with having to make a different CDMA model, right? Oh and let's forget that Verizon announced getting the iPhone a month before the exclusivity ended, right? Yeah they totally didn't jump at the chance...
Just like how the fandroids always shift the blame for any Android woes to everyone but Google? Waaah! Waaah!
Uh huh. Just like how the iPod, iPhone and iPad were going to be huge flops? Does anyone still give these predictions by bitter neck beards any credence?
Yes especially when they'll then have customers leaving in droves.
Huh? Most of your rant has nothing to do with what I was responding to. He was talking about replacing XP with ReactOS and as such my question was why not just continue using XP if that's what you want? What does ARM or companies not wanting to upgrade to Win or the rest of your rant have to do with anything?
Or you can just continue to use XP since it's not going to stop working?
You do realize you can still run XP all you like even after it's been EOLed, right? Why not just keep running XP instead of an alpha-quality clone?
What hypocrisy? They already bought the trademark before the iPad was released back in 2009. This is a bogus lawsuit but the Slashtards well revel in it because it's against Apple.
The real question is what is the harm to Nvidia for releasing the source?
The cost and time involved with properly auditing all the code, time and money spent trying to get licensors to allow source release and three time and effort to reimplement all the parts they won't be able to open source, etc. Unless the neckbeard market is going to make up for all the time and money spent, nvidia gains nothing.
I doubt that their secret sauce is in the driver, so why would it do anything but help their sales?
And you would be wrong. There is lots of optimizations and other technologies in the drivers that they don't want shared. Also, they won't gain any sales from it to warrant the effort. If their major *nix customers, CAD users, 3dfx companies, people running gpu compute clusters, etc., cared about the driver being open sources they would have already pressured them heavily about it. That a few more people in a niche market might buy more of their product does not make a compelling business case.
The point is that the "community" claimed that just releasing the hardware specs would be enough for them to do the driver work. The problem was that that wasn't true and AMD does pretty much all of it themselves.
Make them a business proposal that is with their time and effort and they might consider it. Random neckbeard boy demanding they open source their drivers will not get through.
Then release it without those parts and the community can fill in the gaps.
Yeah right. That's why despite claiming the "community" would handle the heavy lifting that AMD has basically had to do all the work themselves on their open source driver?
They get a more solid and reliable code base through the community eyes.
Uh huh. In la la land, maybe.In reality the community misses tons of bugs that persist for years.
No it doesn't.
They can't. They license lots of code from companies who wouldn't want the source released. Also, they gain nothing by doing so. The neckbeard market isn't their primary customers.
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In your head was that supposed to sound.impressive?
Because Megaupload had no US presence and clearly wasn't breaking New Zealand laws, right?
Xcode is free. Who did you pay $99 for it because you got ripped off.
That sounds all well and good, but where's your real world results to show to us? Yes, one should always attempt to improve the state of things but dumping mature technology for untested and unproven solutions is asinine. Get back to us when some nontrivial software that can prove the claims of the designers has been written. Until then, no thanks. I have real work to do with no time to waste on something that as of right now is a toy language.
Which is a nice fantasy but the 19th century when the government was smaller is renown for the huge amounts of corruption. And, yes, it was just as damaging then as today. Also, if the libertard fantasy was true Somalia should be a utopi centralan society due to it's small and weak government. Yet, none of you libertards seem to want to move there. Maybe because the fantasy really is just a fantasy?
Is this supposed to elicit sympathy. Oh no! They'll have to compensate people for using their land! Those poor things!
And being a good programmer also means you don'tÂstop using mature and battle-tested technology for something immature without good reason. Both C and C++ have plenty of issues but they have decades of experimentation and real-world experience backing them up while Rust is nothing more than a pet project with no real-world history and unknown number of issues and potential bugs. The good programmer will stick with the tried-and-true not jump to the flavor-of-the-week language just to look hip and cool. To the cargo cult programmers this is looked down on but their toy projects are meaningless tripe.
Ok Viacom has half Google's revenue but throw them in with the other conglomerates and Google is peanuts in comparison.
And Disney, Vivendi, Time Warner, Sony, NewsCorp and Comcast/GE (co-owners of NBC Universal) and even Viacom, at about half Google's revenue, combined eclipse Google both in political clout and far, far deeper pockets.