Services like the lately lamented Ricochet provided speeds superior to those promised by 3G over a year ago - and people apparently didn't want to pa $70.00 per month to access the TCP/IP services in metro areas that Ricochet provided - even with unlimited access, or all-you-can-eat for that price.
3G is looking worse and worse every day. What did 3G promise?
500kbps - if you're standing still next to an unloaded base station. 120kbps standing still on a loaded network. 60kbps if you're moving - all with per-minute and/or per megabyte charges. It won't fly here in the U.S.
Hopefully someone will revive Ricochet and we can all surf wirelessly without the foibles of "freenet" 802.11b networks or the limitations of fixed wireless. But I wouldn't bet on it.
Disks fail, virtually no computers in the consumer space come with adequate backup software. Media changes throughout the years; paper is still readable after thousands.
And buy a high quality photo printer
Dye-based inks fade very quickly. More permanence igment-based inks don't have the color saturation and vibrance (as well as serious problems with metamerism) to match conventional photographic film and papers.
Sounds like you want a temporary memory society. That's bad for history and bad future generations.
Did you actually write that instroduction to this article?
This sentence, in particular, is rather confusing: Whether micromarketing of this sort really takes off will depend chicken-and-egg-like on whether a few companies escape being annoying and actually get people interested in what they have to offer.
The reasons your relatives don't call you is because Gateway hired Apple's customer service manager in 1995.
Tim's methodology was to "please everyone" at any cost. Instead of dumping AMD chips, GW should be explaining to customers how to use online help and then hanging up. Anyone who buys a cowputer shouldbe able to figure it out.
AIX was installed on the Apple Network Servers - think Dell PowerEdge server, but looks cooler and was released in 1995, instead of later on. The ANS 500 and 700 were the first Apple computers in several years that didn't run the Mac OS.
The ANS machines were quite righteous servers and hella expandable (for the time) with seven forward-facing drive bays and up to two more drives internally. Wheels for rolling around. One "valet" key lock for the forward drives and one master key lock for the logic board/power in back. Redundant power supplies and an SMP-enabled logic board completed the equation. I got to use the SMP CPU daughtercards once upon a time. Slick.
These machines shipped with IBM AIX 4.0.1 and Apple released updates through AIX 4.0.4. But if you had the right ROM DIMM, they could also run NT for PowerPC or Mac OS 7.x.
Yeah, but the point is that 10.1 will be shipping and in people's hands before WinXP, betas notwithstanding.
It's great that XP has all those things...but Mac OS 9 has had it all out of the box for over six months, and after Saturday, Mac OS X.1 will have it all too.
Sorry, but if you think 3G phones are gonna provide the bandwidth needed for video at 500 m.p.h., you are sorely mistaken.
Sheesh - even Qualcomm admits that 3G handsets will only achieve over 500kbps when stationary - next to a base station.
3G is a lie. And it's getting farther and farther away every day. Too bad Ricochet is dead and 802.11 sucks so badly when it comes to range, roaming and security.
Heck, if Apple wanted to, it could offer a "Mac Boot" service that would allow remote service booting over a fast internet connection via Open Firmware for emergency booting or service troubleshooting.
How long until PCs have that option? You folks still trying to get CD-booting across top-tier models?
Time and time again, it surprises me how little PC people make the effort to know about Macs, while we Mac people have to learn about PCs by virtue of them being the standard. Oh well. I guess they'll haul out the "more=better" arguement now.
That's what, two anti-Mac articles on Slashdot this week so far? C'mon, we can go for three!
They're filing for Chapter 11 reorganization and protection from their creditors.
This means that the network will be up and operating for quite some time while the court works out which creditors get paid how much from Metricom's remaining monies.
Meanwhile, Metricom has a much larger window in which to raise the necessary capitol to operate and promote the existing network.
With an extremely loyal userbase, I'm hopeful that Ricochet stays on the air. The only alternative is baby-bell owned 2.5G cellular at 35kbps and 35 cents per minute.
I would be VERY surprised if Metricom doesn't lower the pricing to $45.00/mo for in-city 128k service across all georgraphic areas they currently cover. In fact, I'd look for this to happen sooner, rather than later.
Vodafone's GPRS system would enable customers to access information at speeds slightly slower than the average 56Kbps household modem but considerably faster than the 9.6Kbps available over the current generation of WAP-enabled GSM phones.
Besides benefiting from faster download speeds, using WAP over a GPRS phone rather than a conventional phone has one further advantage: A WAP session can be interrupted in order to make or receive a call without the need to log on and start again when the call is over.
Vodafone has already launched its GPRS service for business customers and is planning a prepaid GPRS service toward the end of the year. However, consumers who pay for their phones on a monthly contract basis will be able to use the new service starting Friday.
After the cost of the handset there are two pricing packages on offer from Vodafone. Customers can either pay $10.60 a month and get 1MB of free data transferral per month - that equates to 500 to 1000 WAP page views per month. Each additional 1MB costs $7. That package is 72 cents cheaper than BT's offering, but BT only charges $5.65 for each extra 1MB
Uh, what was that about 2mbps?
Each additional MB costs $7.00! LOL! I just downloaded a 5MB QuickTime movie at 30kBps with Ricochet (yes, bytes)...that would have cost me $30.00 with a 3G service.
I regularly transfer over 60MB a day with Ricochet...all for $75.00 a month. Good luck launching 3G here in the states. With the technical delays it's had, it'll be years before 3G services catch up with where Ricochet is today.
If you think 3G will actually provide those 2.4Mbps rates...
...well, you just admitted that you have no idea what you're talking about. I guess you believe everything you read from manufacturers. The 2.4Mbps figure is burst, to one user, on an unloaded network.
Try watching your video at 6:00 p.m. when everyone is talking on their phones. Good luck getting 30kbps.
Since 3G is monolithic cellular, deploying more towers to reuse spectrum is an expensive and time-consuming process.
As for the spectrum Ricochet uses today, don't assume that the background technology wouldn't work on any spectrum you might want to use.
2fps? I regularly watch videos using Windows media player at much higher frame rates.
When people start paying to use 3G services in the U.S., then
Actually, the coverage area encompases about 50 million people TODAY.
New York City/Manhattan/Long Island, Houston/Galveston, Dallas Fort-Worth, Los Angeles, San Diego, S.F. Bay Area/Santa Cruz, Seattle, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Baltimore, Denver, Phoenix, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Detroit, Atlanta Metro....rumor is Chicago is coming soon, with serveral parts of the city under coverage.
Sounds like about 50 million to me. Feel free to check census figures, but I stand by my assertion that these cities and their Ricochet coverage areas encompass about 50 million people.
Sounds like just another hostile east coaster who can't chill out.
My point was that data rates for 3G phones are cited as some panacea for bringing data to the roving masses.
Ricochet already does this quite effectively. I don't expect to talk to someone over my laptop computer; I don't expect to have to connect a phone to my computer for data or wait seven to ten years for reliable and fast mobile wireless data ransmission from my laptop/PocketPC either.
As fas as the whole video phone thing goes...I think the only place we'll see widespread adoption of video phones int he next 50 years is in the movies.
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Too bad your CDPD connection is soooo slow and drops calls uring rush hour.
I never had any problems with Ricochet moving between microcells. Have you actually used Ricochet, or are you just trolling?
I think 80-240kbps stationary and 20-50kbps moving is far nicer than CDPD - a maximum of 14-19kbps. Have fun.
3G has been a pipe dream from it's inception.
Services like the lately lamented Ricochet provided speeds superior to those promised by 3G over a year ago - and people apparently didn't want to pa $70.00 per month to access the TCP/IP services in metro areas that Ricochet provided - even with unlimited access, or all-you-can-eat for that price.
3G is looking worse and worse every day. What did 3G promise?
500kbps - if you're standing still next to an unloaded base station. 120kbps standing still on a loaded network. 60kbps if you're moving - all with per-minute and/or per megabyte charges. It won't fly here in the U.S.
Hopefully someone will revive Ricochet and we can all surf wirelessly without the foibles of "freenet" 802.11b networks or the limitations of fixed wireless. But I wouldn't bet on it.
Have them buy a scanner
Disks fail, virtually no computers in the consumer space come with adequate backup software. Media changes throughout the years; paper is still readable after thousands.
And buy a high quality photo printer
Dye-based inks fade very quickly. More permanence igment-based inks don't have the color saturation and vibrance (as well as serious problems with metamerism) to match conventional photographic film and papers.
Sounds like you want a temporary memory society. That's bad for history and bad future generations.
Not the first time, but maybe the last?
Damn, if I only I could edit that post!
This sentence, in particular, is rather confusing: Whether micromarketing of this sort really takes off will depend chicken-and-egg-like on whether a few companies escape being annoying and actually get people interested in what they have to offer.
Run-on alert!
The reasons your relatives don't call you is because Gateway hired Apple's customer service manager in 1995.
Tim's methodology was to "please everyone" at any cost. Instead of dumping AMD chips, GW should be explaining to customers how to use online help and then hanging up. Anyone who buys a cowputer shouldbe able to figure it out.
Er, how is a heatsink noisy, oh wise and knowledgeable PC-user?
Fans - now they can be noisy, but a heat sink is usually pretty quiet just sitting there by itself.
en Suncat es yo quiero performance.
Quando Microsoft?
AIX was installed on the Apple Network Servers - think Dell PowerEdge server, but looks cooler and was released in 1995, instead of later on. The ANS 500 and 700 were the first Apple computers in several years that didn't run the Mac OS.
The ANS machines were quite righteous servers and hella expandable (for the time) with seven forward-facing drive bays and up to two more drives internally. Wheels for rolling around. One "valet" key lock for the forward drives and one master key lock for the logic board/power in back. Redundant power supplies and an SMP-enabled logic board completed the equation. I got to use the SMP CPU daughtercards once upon a time. Slick.
These machines shipped with IBM AIX 4.0.1 and Apple released updates through AIX 4.0.4. But if you had the right ROM DIMM, they could also run NT for PowerPC or Mac OS 7.x.
Not many people knew that.
Yeah, but the point is that 10.1 will be shipping and in people's hands before WinXP, betas notwithstanding.
It's great that XP has all those things...but Mac OS 9 has had it all out of the box for over six months, and after Saturday, Mac OS X.1 will have it all too.
Try reading threads before responding.
Sheesh - even Qualcomm admits that 3G handsets will only achieve over 500kbps when stationary - next to a base station.
3G is a lie. And it's getting farther and farther away every day. Too bad Ricochet is dead and 802.11 sucks so badly when it comes to range, roaming and security.
Fried my Athlon. Doesn't work right anymore. Once a crash-proof macine, now a bomb factory.
Que! makes a variant of their USB CD-RW drive that uses USB 2.0.
Of course if they ever get that piece of junk to do 4X sustained writes, I'll be a monkey's uncle.
*Hold down the Option key after you hear the boot beep to see a list of bootable devices
Boy, that's tough! Yeah, Microsoft sure has the edge for hardware/software integration!
All Macs without floppy drives can boot from:
- Network drive
- CD-ROM (and they've all got these drives)
- External USB drives
- Other ATA/EIDE drives
- Firewire drives
So, what's the argument for a floppy again?Heck, if Apple wanted to, it could offer a "Mac Boot" service that would allow remote service booting over a fast internet connection via Open Firmware for emergency booting or service troubleshooting.
How long until PCs have that option? You folks still trying to get CD-booting across top-tier models?
Time and time again, it surprises me how little PC people make the effort to know about Macs, while we Mac people have to learn about PCs by virtue of them being the standard. Oh well. I guess they'll haul out the "more=better" arguement now.
That's what, two anti-Mac articles on Slashdot this week so far? C'mon, we can go for three!
Ricochet is MOBILE.
Try humping that satellite dish setup down to the park or to a client's office.
They're filing for Chapter 11 reorganization and protection from their creditors. This means that the network will be up and operating for quite some time while the court works out which creditors get paid how much from Metricom's remaining monies. Meanwhile, Metricom has a much larger window in which to raise the necessary capitol to operate and promote the existing network. With an extremely loyal userbase, I'm hopeful that Ricochet stays on the air. The only alternative is baby-bell owned 2.5G cellular at 35kbps and 35 cents per minute. I would be VERY surprised if Metricom doesn't lower the pricing to $45.00/mo for in-city 128k service across all georgraphic areas they currently cover. In fact, I'd look for this to happen sooner, rather than later.
Thanks for the laugh. +6, sorta.
And I agree. Flay is a world-class jackass. He was very condescending to that poor retarded man he used to cook with on Grillin' and Chillin'.
Vodafone has already launched its GPRS service for business customers and is planning a prepaid GPRS service toward the end of the year. However, consumers who pay for their phones on a monthly contract basis will be able to use the new service starting Friday.
After the cost of the handset there are two pricing packages on offer from Vodafone. Customers can either pay $10.60 a month and get 1MB of free data transferral per month - that equates to 500 to 1000 WAP page views per month. Each additional 1MB costs $7. That package is 72 cents cheaper than BT's offering, but BT only charges $5.65 for each extra 1MB
Uh, what was that about 2mbps?
Each additional MB costs $7.00! LOL! I just downloaded a 5MB QuickTime movie at 30kBps with Ricochet (yes, bytes)...that would have cost me $30.00 with a 3G service.
I regularly transfer over 60MB a day with Ricochet...all for $75.00 a month. Good luck launching 3G here in the states. With the technical delays it's had, it'll be years before 3G services catch up with where Ricochet is today.
Just a delighted Ricochet user....
Try watching your video at 6:00 p.m. when everyone is talking on their phones. Good luck getting 30kbps.
Since 3G is monolithic cellular, deploying more towers to reuse spectrum is an expensive and time-consuming process.
As for the spectrum Ricochet uses today, don't assume that the background technology wouldn't work on any spectrum you might want to use.
2fps? I regularly watch videos using Windows media player at much higher frame rates.
When people start paying to use 3G services in the U.S., then
If it does well, I'd expect that it would be rolled out in other coverage areas.
I'm in L.A. and the Bay Area each week, so the $75.00/mo. service is more useful for me.
Hell, if it lets me get an hour's worth of work done waiting for one of United's cancelled flights, it has paid for itself.
Actually, the coverage area encompases about 50 million people TODAY.
New York City/Manhattan/Long Island, Houston/Galveston, Dallas Fort-Worth, Los Angeles, San Diego, S.F. Bay Area/Santa Cruz, Seattle, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Baltimore, Denver, Phoenix, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Detroit, Atlanta Metro....rumor is Chicago is coming soon, with serveral parts of the city under coverage.
Sounds like about 50 million to me. Feel free to check census figures, but I stand by my assertion that these cities and their Ricochet coverage areas encompass about 50 million people.
Sounds like just another hostile east coaster who can't chill out.
(Former east coast resident)
Ricochet already does this quite effectively. I don't expect to talk to someone over my laptop computer; I don't expect to have to connect a phone to my computer for data or wait seven to ten years for reliable and fast mobile wireless data ransmission from my laptop/PocketPC either.
As fas as the whole video phone thing goes...I think the only place we'll see widespread adoption of video phones int he next 50 years is in the movies.