Someone mod the above up. This is a perfect example of a workable invasion of privacy that this could lead to... If you pay with credit card, the store could easily tie your name to your RFIDs.
First off, they don't know that the email's being deleted and not read
Uh, they _DO_ know something very important, however: they know how many people follow the links/call the numbers and then buy the products being advertised. If the sales dip, they will be less likely to put money into spam advertising. If they don't pay the spammers to advertise their products, that is less spam.
Spam exists because it's cheap and it works. If you can make the spammers have to work 1000x times harder for each dollar they get paid, it becomes a less attractive proposition.
but it doesn't send them a message back saying "Sorry, rejected."
Why would you want to do this? It's not like they are going to take you off their list, anyway.
What they need is to be forced to have an address that can be responded to.
See, I don't think that's very realistic in the near-to-mid term. Even in 95% of the countries pass laws saying that it's illegal, spammers can broadcast from that 5%...
Sigh. By "you", I was referring to _you_, the architect of this brilliant plan. I'll rephrase.
1. Technically, how would this plan be implemented?
2. How could an ISP prove that an email recieved was "paid for"?
3. How could the US (or whoever adopts this plan) force other nations/ISPs to do this? Because, unless everyone adopts it, it's useless anyway.
It seems to me that this plan: A) wouldn't stop spam. B) would kill the popularity of email (people would just switch to IM or something free). C) would cost at least as much to implement as it saves. D) would keep poor people without credit cards from having email. (many people have free email accounts they check from libraries)
And SpamAssassin will evolve to take that into account... again, without me having to lift a finger. Here are the various tests SpamAssassin currently performs on a spam email. A bit more than you imply.
Also, note : if you avoid the garbage #'s (or random text) in the subject line, then you've just made it so that you can't email Hotmail, Yahoo, or AOL users because all of those systems will block an email with the same subject if they detect it going to too many users during a certain time. Many other ISPs probably do this as well. The whole reason spammers started adding the random text/numbers was to avoid that.
And remeber - if tools (like SpamAssassin and whatever else) start to get so good that spammers have to spend a large amount of time crafting spam to try and get past them, it ceases to become profitable for them, thus they will have to raise their rates, thus the service seems less appealing to those buying it, thus the amount of spam will decrease.
My ISP uses spamassassin, and it filters out about 299 out of 300 spams without me having to do anything whatsoever. I get a false positive maybe once every two weeks (and I get a good amount of email). Usually those are forwards or items people BCC:d to a whole bunch of people that I don't care about, anyway. AND if I bothered to add all my friends to my whitelist, I'd _never_ get a false positive from them.
I believe he was saying only 2.5 spams per 1000 get through to your inbox. Not only 2.5 per 1000 get caught. That's a little different.
That's about the performance I'm getting out of my spam filter setup (spamassassin), anyway - I think I'm getting about one spam in my inbox per 300 spams in my held mail. Only about once every two weeks do I find an email that is a false positive (and I get about legit 30-40 emails a day).
I sure would like to have all my medical, financial and school information in my pocket at all times too.
Don't you think it'd be safer to have that stuff stored on a database that could be remotely accessed, then on a card that you are carrying? Gives a whole new meaning to "identity theft".
Sure, the cards would be encrypted, but if people regulary were carrying around cards that detailed all of their financial information (mutual funds, bank accounts, etc), I bet a black market industry that involved cracking the cards would spring up.
Not that I think the poster's predication will happen, but would you _really_ want to carry around all of your personal info with you? What happens if you get mugged? Or lose your wallet? Or get pushed into a swimming pool at a party?
Most artists that I know that have signed to a label did so when they were very young, 19-23, and had no clue about how business works. The the labels get A & R reps, who are "cool"-seeming young dudes (usually guys who were in signed bands that broke up) to hob-nob with you and convince you that the label is different than all the others.
Then these A & R reps get you to sign a "deal memo" which they will tell you you don't need your lawyers to read, it's nota contract. And it's not, but it's still legally binding. All it says is that you intend to sign a deal with the label.
Once you've signed, you're in and you can't really get out. The deal memo means that you can't sign with another label, and if you can't do that you are pretty much at the mercy of what contract they give you.
Sure, you could probably get a lawyer and get out of the deal memo, but a) these people are young and don't have lawyers or big money, b) the labels have better lawyers and bigger money, and c) the fear that other labels won't want you if you have a reputation for being litigous.
All in all, the deck is stacked towards the labels.
Depends what style of music you like. Some good places to check out are sites like epitonic & insound. They carry or have reviews of lots of good indie stuff, and a wide range of styles.
Some of my favorite bands (which you should be able to find in the above sites) include Tragedy, Orchid, the Oath, Saetia, Page 99, Usurp Synapse, Q and Not U, Fugazi, Lightning Bolt, Books Lie, Killsadie, Pig Destroyer, Mastodon... and the list goes on.
(Note : I didn't check all the links, just typed what I was pretty sure they were. Use google if one you want is broken.)
People learn about artists because the members of the RIAA PAY A SHITLOAD OF MONEY to get their names and faces in front of you. You don't know about artists unless they're supported by the RIAA. Aritsts usually aren't known unless they're advertised by the RIAA. The RIAA needs money for advertising, and that money has to come from proceeds made off of the artists.
None of my favorite bands are supported by, or support the RIAA. I managed to hear about them just fine without the RIAA telling me what I should like.
J.R.R. Tolkien's family doesn't have the right to own copyright on the Lord of the Ring's. Why? Why should his work become public domain? What gives you the right to it?
Because this was the intention of the framers of the Constitution?
Let's flip this around : how come Disney can make works such as Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Tarzan, Pinocchio and others, all based on other people's work, without paying the creators of those characters? Answer : because they waited until the copyrights ended (or the works were created before copyright existed, in some cases).
A large portion of Disney's animated output never would have existed had copyrights been as lengthy as they are now. The fact that they can make these works helps them and us, because we can enjoy the movies (and they can make money off of them).
Another example : Shakespeare. How many movies are either direct versions of Shakespeare, or thinly-veiled interpretations? Recent teen films such as "Ten Things I Hate About You" and "O" are based on the bard, for example. "Clueless" was based on a Jane Eyre book, if I recall.
There are MANY works we could not enjoy today if the originals they were based on) were protected by copyright. Also, certain books would probably not even be in print had the copyrights not expired.
Overall, I think the ability to _eventually_ create derivative works is a boon to society. Sure, the creator should be able to have a long period of exclusivity, but eventually things should go back in the public domain - as was the intention of the copyright law in the first place.
Exactly. It'd be great if you could do it battle-by-battle. Towards the end of the game, when it's obvious you are going to win, you just want to move quickly to the finish.
If I recall, M002 (though it may have been another space strategy game) had a preference option for 'fast combat', that skipped the battles altogether, resolving them for you automatically.
I hope they kept that feature, or even better, let you pick before a battle starts. After your empire gets to a certain size, all the skirmishes get a bit old.
A company like Phillips is not telling Linux or BSD users to go fuck themselves.
Well, it seems to me you actually would have to go out of your way (or be really inept) to make a web site that is only viewable on Windows or MacOS. To do so is a bit of a kiss off.
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Someone mod the above up. This is a perfect example of a workable invasion of privacy that this could lead to... If you pay with credit card, the store could easily tie your name to your RFIDs.
RFID is a bit different. They are planning on including them in clothes and all other sorts of items.
First off, they don't know that the email's being deleted and not read
Uh, they _DO_ know something very important, however: they know how many people follow the links/call the numbers and then buy the products being advertised. If the sales dip, they will be less likely to put money into spam advertising. If they don't pay the spammers to advertise their products, that is less spam.
Spam exists because it's cheap and it works. If you can make the spammers have to work 1000x times harder for each dollar they get paid, it becomes a less attractive proposition.
but it doesn't send them a message back saying "Sorry, rejected."
Why would you want to do this? It's not like they are going to take you off their list, anyway.
What they need is to be forced to have an address that can be responded to.
See, I don't think that's very realistic in the near-to-mid term. Even in 95% of the countries pass laws saying that it's illegal, spammers can broadcast from that 5%...
Sigh. By "you", I was referring to _you_, the architect of this brilliant plan. I'll rephrase.
1. Technically, how would this plan be implemented?
2. How could an ISP prove that an email recieved was "paid for"?
3. How could the US (or whoever adopts this plan) force other nations/ISPs to do this? Because, unless everyone adopts it, it's useless anyway.
It seems to me that this plan:
A) wouldn't stop spam.
B) would kill the popularity of email (people would just switch to IM or something free).
C) would cost at least as much to implement as it saves.
D) would keep poor people without credit cards from having email. (many people have free email accounts they check from libraries)
And SpamAssassin will evolve to take that into account... again, without me having to lift a finger. Here are the various tests SpamAssassin currently performs on a spam email. A bit more than you imply.
Also, note : if you avoid the garbage #'s (or random text) in the subject line, then you've just made it so that you can't email Hotmail, Yahoo, or AOL users because all of those systems will block an email with the same subject if they detect it going to too many users during a certain time. Many other ISPs probably do this as well. The whole reason spammers started adding the random text/numbers was to avoid that.
And remeber - if tools (like SpamAssassin and whatever else) start to get so good that spammers have to spend a large amount of time crafting spam to try and get past them, it ceases to become profitable for them, thus they will have to raise their rates, thus the service seems less appealing to those buying it, thus the amount of spam will decrease.
Is it really worth all that trouble?
My ISP uses spamassassin, and it filters out about 299 out of 300 spams without me having to do anything whatsoever. I get a false positive maybe once every two weeks (and I get a good amount of email). Usually those are forwards or items people BCC:d to a whole bunch of people that I don't care about, anyway. AND if I bothered to add all my friends to my whitelist, I'd _never_ get a false positive from them.
Please answer the following:
1. Technically, how could you implement this?
2. How could you prove that an email you recieved was "paid for"?
3. How could you force other nations to do this?
So it catchs 2 or 3 of every 1000 spam messages.
I believe he was saying only 2.5 spams per 1000 get through to your inbox. Not only 2.5 per 1000 get caught. That's a little different.
That's about the performance I'm getting out of my spam filter setup (spamassassin), anyway - I think I'm getting about one spam in my inbox per 300 spams in my held mail. Only about once every two weeks do I find an email that is a false positive (and I get about legit 30-40 emails a day).
I sure would like to have all my medical, financial and school information in my pocket at all times too.
Don't you think it'd be safer to have that stuff stored on a database that could be remotely accessed, then on a card that you are carrying? Gives a whole new meaning to "identity theft".
Sure, the cards would be encrypted, but if people regulary were carrying around cards that detailed all of their financial information (mutual funds, bank accounts, etc), I bet a black market industry that involved cracking the cards would spring up.
Not that I think the poster's predication will happen, but would you _really_ want to carry around all of your personal info with you? What happens if you get mugged? Or lose your wallet? Or get pushed into a swimming pool at a party?
Most artists that I know that have signed to a label did so when they were very young, 19-23, and had no clue about how business works. The the labels get A & R reps, who are "cool"-seeming young dudes (usually guys who were in signed bands that broke up) to hob-nob with you and convince you that the label is different than all the others.
Then these A & R reps get you to sign a "deal memo" which they will tell you you don't need your lawyers to read, it's nota contract. And it's not, but it's still legally binding. All it says is that you intend to sign a deal with the label.
Once you've signed, you're in and you can't really get out. The deal memo means that you can't sign with another label, and if you can't do that you are pretty much at the mercy of what contract they give you.
Sure, you could probably get a lawyer and get out of the deal memo, but a) these people are young and don't have lawyers or big money, b) the labels have better lawyers and bigger money, and c) the fear that other labels won't want you if you have a reputation for being litigous.
All in all, the deck is stacked towards the labels.
Depends what style of music you like. Some good places to check out are sites like epitonic & insound. They carry or have reviews of lots of good indie stuff, and a wide range of styles.
If you like punk/indie rock/hardcore, check out Dischord, Reptillian, Ebullition, Level Plane, Magic Bullet, Kill Rock Stars, K Records, Drag City, Happy Couples Never Last, Three One G, Load Records, Robotic Empire, Sound Virus, Exotic Fever, Lovitt... There are hundreds more. Most of these labels have MP3s of their bands, so check em out and see if you like em.
If you like metal, check out Relapse or Hydrahead.
Some of my favorite bands (which you should be able to find in the above sites) include Tragedy, Orchid, the Oath, Saetia, Page 99, Usurp Synapse, Q and Not U, Fugazi, Lightning Bolt, Books Lie, Killsadie, Pig Destroyer, Mastodon... and the list goes on. (Note : I didn't check all the links, just typed what I was pretty sure they were. Use google if one you want is broken.)
If 20 million people install it and they get a quarter for each person, that's $5 million bucks.
Well, it does install all SORTS of spyware and adware on your machine - they must get some reward for that.
And whose fault is that? Why does the RIAA collect money from blank CD-R sales to make up for piracy, but not give that money to the artists?
People learn about artists because the members of the RIAA PAY A SHITLOAD OF MONEY to get their names and faces in front of you. You don't know about artists unless they're supported by the RIAA. Aritsts usually aren't known unless they're advertised by the RIAA. The RIAA needs money for advertising, and that money has to come from proceeds made off of the artists.
None of my favorite bands are supported by, or support the RIAA. I managed to hear about them just fine without the RIAA telling me what I should like.
Whoops! Oh well... I never read either, to be honest ;)
J.R.R. Tolkien's family doesn't have the right to own copyright on the Lord of the Ring's. Why? Why should his work become public domain? What gives you the right to it?
Because this was the intention of the framers of the Constitution?
Let's flip this around : how come Disney can make works such as Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Tarzan, Pinocchio and others, all based on other people's work, without paying the creators of those characters? Answer : because they waited until the copyrights ended (or the works were created before copyright existed, in some cases).
A large portion of Disney's animated output never would have existed had copyrights been as lengthy as they are now. The fact that they can make these works helps them and us, because we can enjoy the movies (and they can make money off of them).
Another example : Shakespeare. How many movies are either direct versions of Shakespeare, or thinly-veiled interpretations? Recent teen films such as "Ten Things I Hate About You" and "O" are based on the bard, for example. "Clueless" was based on a Jane Eyre book, if I recall.
There are MANY works we could not enjoy today if the originals they were based on) were protected by copyright. Also, certain books would probably not even be in print had the copyrights not expired.
Overall, I think the ability to _eventually_ create derivative works is a boon to society. Sure, the creator should be able to have a long period of exclusivity, but eventually things should go back in the public domain - as was the intention of the copyright law in the first place.
Whoops! Sorry, the way the posts were arranged, it looked like you were responding to me, not the guy who got modded to oblivion.
Everyone feel free to mod my above comment down.
Am I busted at what?
I think he means how they steal from the artists.
How do you know where the poster lives?
Exactly. It'd be great if you could do it battle-by-battle. Towards the end of the game, when it's obvious you are going to win, you just want to move quickly to the finish.
If I recall, M002 (though it may have been another space strategy game) had a preference option for 'fast combat', that skipped the battles altogether, resolving them for you automatically.
I hope they kept that feature, or even better, let you pick before a battle starts. After your empire gets to a certain size, all the skirmishes get a bit old.
A company like Phillips is not telling Linux or BSD users to go fuck themselves.
Well, it seems to me you actually would have to go out of your way (or be really inept) to make a web site that is only viewable on Windows or MacOS. To do so is a bit of a kiss off.