It's only about "theft of services" as such because the RIAA through its political lackeys has set the terms of debate. Nothing is stolen, and if society and its legal system is so badly broken as to prosecute those who freely exchanged music, video games, etc... merely to create an artifical scarcity of resources... then an anonymous network seems like an excellent idea to me.
Your argument that this slows down the FBI and CIA cuts little water with me. Search warrants and due process also slow down these organizations, but few would give up these things to make work easier for the FBI and CIA. The postal system also allows information to be sent anonymously, would you dispense with this in order to go after the proverbial child porn bugaboo?
In Canada you pay a tax on blank media, the assumption being you are going to use it to break somebody's copyright. They didn't even have to open a phonebook, a few well priced lobbyists (lawyers probably) managed to get them their own source of tax revenue. I don't blame lawyers per say, but I do think that if political parties take coporate cash (Liberals in this case) you can expect that they are going to return the favor to their benefactors.
Unlikely, you need a license to practise medicine in the US so I don't see doctors being outsourced anytime soon. Also the medical doctor's trade union (American Medical Assosciation) is too strong to let that happen. I think some diagnosis be outsourced though that doesn't require an actual medical doctor, but I think more of it is likely to be automated.
First off earth is probably closer to 4.5 billion years old. Second, the age of the earth is irrelevant as to whether you want to call it a trend or not. If you feel uncomfortable with the terminology, call it a microtrend. The point is if the temperature went up by 200 degrees in the next 18 years would you say that it is not statistically valid because the earth is 4.5 billion years old?! Give me a break.
I don't know how this got moderated as insightful, if the temperature went up 100 degrees in the last 18 years would you still pretend there wasn't enough time to say that global warming is occuring? (Not that we would likely still be around...) The way to prove a study is with statistics, not our intuition. Furthermore the age of the solar system is an irrelevant variable as far as this (and any other useful) global warning study goes.
Nice to see you have to post your racist crap as an anonymous coward. I presume you mean child support when you say the government gives them more money? Why don't you come out and say you are against child support (for all people or just native Candaians?). My guess is that you don't because child support enjoys wide support among most Canadians and your racist views are part of a tiny fringe.
While I certainly support family planning, I don't think the world's biggest problem is population growth. According to the CIA World Factboook the world's average fertility rate was 2.65 children born/woman in 2003. In another 20 years people will be complaining there aren't enough children being born to support the older population, something which is already happening in the richer countries.
I have no idea where you came up with the 1-2 million number (counting UN sanctions perhaps?) but considering the West supported Saddamm Hussein until the invasion of Kuwait there is plenty of blood on the hands of pro-war types. Supporting his invasion of Iran for instance? Giving him the chemical weapon technology to gas Kurds, then minimizing the trajedy until after he invited Kuwait? Hell, Rumsfeld shook Saddam's hands back in the 80s. What is bullshit is war-mongers who never said boo about Saddam back in the 80s pretending this war has something to do with human rights - now that's the joke.
No, he does know what he is talking about. If a programmer uses an object from say java.rmi.server on Sun's platform, who is to say whether this feature is implemented in another virutal machine? Are you familiar with how up to date the dozens of other JVM's are with Sun's latest release of java? If no other JVM is implementing this, then it is effectively sun only, regardless of whether it is prefaced by com.sun or not.
Also on sun's JVM it doesn't say com.sun, it is all just "java.whatever", "javax.whatever", etc... when you import a package.
Because when you pay for it, you agree to a set of restrictions on what you can do with it. Don't like those restrictions? Buy it somewhere else When did you ever agree to any set of restrictions? Did you sign a contract or licensing agreement? Was there verbal agreement? I don't think so. If this type of thing stands people will not own anything of value anymore, everything will be licensed (without explicit consent) and people will have even less control over their lives than they have right now.
>I understand about wanting a fair share of the pie, but where does it cross over into greed?
Is it greed because its a large absolute dollar value or becuase its a large dollar value compaired to what the producers/network make from the Simpsons?
The real underlying question is on what basis should people be renumerated for the work that they do?
If you believe that renumeration should be based on what the market dictates (I don't), you can't really complain about the salary they make. However if you believe it is more reasonable to pay people for the work they do, then it follows that you ought to be more upset with Rupert Murdoch than the actors. Murdoch owns Fox and does NO WORK FOR THE SHOW (although he profits from it as an owner) whereas at least the actors are working to produce something of value.
Personally I am completely lost in a Mac unless I have a bash shell. The directory structure seems a lot different from other Unix type systems, and I have to learn how to navigate the (horrible IMHO) GUI to do any number of sysadmin type tasks. It took a signficant of sweat on my part just to get an OSX to play nicely with our NIS server whereas Linux just worked. I actually prefer the Windows (shudder) GUI to a Mac, but it's probably just my Mac ignorance. Perhaps for a laptop, but I'd never get a Mac desktop.
Does being a medical doctor or an engineer mean you are a perpetuator or a collaborator? The people I talked to were not even party members and were not at all directly involved with the repressive arm of the state.
I know the reason for some, since I've talked to older people living in Eastern Europe and asked. Basically it boils down to working hard your whole life (some with nice professional jobs) and then watching your nice pension be destroyed by inflation in the transition to capitalism and your lifestyle plummet. Things really were materially better for them under the old system, although all of them are happy to see the political repression gone. The problem is that the same people in many cases that ran the country under communism and now doing so under capitalism. The more things change, the more they stay the same....
A single payer health care system may have been rejected (to be honest I'm not familiar with the details of the proposals in those 2 states) but that doesn't mean that the reasons for rejection were sound. You say Americans don't want their taxes raised to pay for lower quality health care (who would!) but is that this is not the case that this would occur. Anecdotal evidence aside, you are aware that Canada spends less as a % of GDP (includes all private and public monies) than the United States on health care (in both absolute and purchasing power parity terms)? This implies that health care is cheaper in Canada. In terms of quality, you can look at various measures of public health (like infant morality, life expectancy) and Canada edges out the US in both those areas (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2149799.st m#table) Unfortunately I couldn't find more comprehensive stats than that.
Ahhh, but US citizens do pay more for health care (as a % of GDP) and I can tell you that Alberta and BC have higher quality health care than Kasier Permenante in Georgia from personal experience.
At least one form of anarchy (anarcho-syndicalism) has more or less worked in the past (parts of Republican Spain during the Spanish Civil War) so I think you should up your 20 person limit. Google for the keywords if you are interested.
What are you talking about, Hitler didn't transform Germany from an agricultural country into an industrial one! That had been done decades earlier, Hitler just massively increased public spending (mostly on the military) before leading the country into ruin.
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But why further put them in the hole and having to work their way out to provide a living for them and theirs? You could reverse the question and ask why do the rest of us not do not have that right. Actually most artists who make large sums of money mostly through CD sales don't have that right anyway, it's been sold to RCA/Sony/etc... the same way my rights for any code I write are properly of my employer. So in reality the people we are putting in the hole here at the members of the RIAA and a few very wealthy artists. I personally don't think anybody should continue to make millions for music they published years ago, it's not only that I think that others are more deserving in our society (teachers for instance) but also because they are now making money without working. That just seems parasitic to me.
Even most two or three year olds know that if you take something for nothing then it is stealing Nevermind children, do you really believe that you are stealing when sun warms your living place? You may laugh at the example, but the sky can become a commodity if intellectual property can. You may one day pay for the sun to shine in your living room, and I don't think it make it any mor e legitimate if the sky is auctioned off to the power companies the way the government auctioned (gave away actually) electro magnetic frequencies to the telecoms. Stealing implies a loss, when one child takes a building block and runs off to play by himself that is stealing. But if they play together it is called sharing and fortunately I believe this is still encouraged in the nursery schools. There is enough actual scarcity in the world that we don't need to create more of it by artificially restricting the flow of information/music. Call me a radical, but in my mind technology is supposed to free us from sarcity, not provide novel justfications to create it.
but I do not see how contributing to that by not buying music is a good thing It's a good thing because more people will enjoy music, not just the music they can afford. Artists will still make money with live shows and merchandising anyway, they just won't make millions from multi-platinum records anymore. It's great that you take responsbility for your actions, but I just don't think this 15 year old did anything wrong (even if it is illegal).
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It's only about "theft of services" as such because the RIAA through its political lackeys has set the terms of debate. Nothing is stolen, and if society and its legal system is so badly broken as to prosecute those who freely exchanged music, video games, etc... merely to create an artifical scarcity of resources... then an anonymous network seems like an excellent idea to me.
Your argument that this slows down the FBI and CIA cuts little water with me. Search warrants and due process also slow down these organizations, but few would give up these things to make work easier for the FBI and CIA. The postal system also allows information to be sent anonymously, would you dispense with this in order to go after the proverbial child porn bugaboo?
In Canada you pay a tax on blank media, the assumption being you are going to use it to break somebody's copyright. They didn't even have to open a phonebook, a few well priced lobbyists (lawyers probably) managed to get them their own source of tax revenue.
I don't blame lawyers per say, but I do think that if political parties take coporate cash (Liberals in this case) you can expect that they are going to return the favor to their benefactors.
Unlikely, you need a license to practise medicine in the US so I don't see doctors being outsourced anytime soon. Also the medical doctor's trade union (American Medical Assosciation) is too strong to let that happen. I think some diagnosis be outsourced though that doesn't require an actual medical doctor, but I think more of it is likely to be automated.
Well, we better dim the sun a bit shall we? :)
Since we can't do a thing about it, how about we worry about what we can control (co2 emmissions for instance).
First off earth is probably closer to 4.5 billion years old.
Second, the age of the earth is irrelevant as to whether you want to call it a trend or not. If you feel uncomfortable with the terminology, call it a microtrend. The point is if the temperature went up by 200 degrees in the next 18 years would you say that it is not statistically valid because the earth is 4.5 billion years old?! Give me a break.
I don't know how this got moderated as insightful, if the temperature went up 100 degrees in the last 18 years would you still pretend there wasn't enough time to say that global warming is occuring? (Not that we would likely still be around...) The way to prove a study is with statistics, not our intuition. Furthermore the age of the solar system is an irrelevant variable as far as this (and any other useful) global warning study goes.
Nice to see you have to post your racist crap as an anonymous coward.
I presume you mean child support when you say the government gives them more money? Why don't you come out and say you are against child support (for all people or just native Candaians?). My guess is that you don't because child support enjoys wide support among most Canadians and your racist views are part of a tiny fringe.
While I certainly support family planning, I don't think the world's biggest problem is population growth. According to the CIA World Factboook the world's average fertility rate was 2.65 children born/woman in 2003. In another 20 years people will be complaining there aren't enough children being born to support the older population, something which is already happening in the richer countries.
I have no idea where you came up with the 1-2 million number (counting UN sanctions perhaps?) but considering the West supported Saddamm Hussein until the invasion of Kuwait there is plenty of blood on the hands of pro-war types. Supporting his invasion of Iran for instance? Giving him the chemical weapon technology to gas Kurds, then minimizing the trajedy until after he invited Kuwait? Hell, Rumsfeld shook Saddam's hands back in the 80s.
What is bullshit is war-mongers who never said boo about Saddam back in the 80s pretending this war has something to do with human rights - now that's the joke.
No, he does know what he is talking about. If a programmer uses an object from say java.rmi.server on Sun's platform, who is to say whether this feature is implemented in another virutal machine? Are you familiar with how up to date the dozens of other JVM's are with Sun's latest release of java? If no other JVM is implementing this, then it is effectively sun only, regardless of whether it is prefaced by com.sun or not.
Also on sun's JVM it doesn't say com.sun, it is all just "java.whatever", "javax.whatever", etc... when you import a package.
Because when you pay for it, you agree to a set of restrictions on what you can do with it. Don't like those restrictions? Buy it somewhere else
When did you ever agree to any set of restrictions? Did you sign a contract or licensing agreement? Was there verbal agreement? I don't think so. If this type of thing stands people will not own anything of value anymore, everything will be licensed (without explicit consent) and people will have even less control over their lives than they have right now.
>I understand about wanting a fair share of the pie, but where does it cross over into greed?
Is it greed because its a large absolute dollar value or becuase its a large dollar value compaired to what the producers/network make from the Simpsons?
The real underlying question is on what basis should people be renumerated for the work that they do?
If you believe that renumeration should be based on what the market dictates (I don't), you can't really complain about the salary they make. However if you believe it is more reasonable to pay people for the work they do, then it follows that you ought to be more upset with Rupert Murdoch than the actors. Murdoch owns Fox and does NO WORK FOR THE SHOW (although he profits from it as an owner) whereas at least the actors are working to produce something of value.
Personally I am completely lost in a Mac unless I have a bash shell. The directory structure seems a lot different from other Unix type systems, and I have to learn how to navigate the (horrible IMHO) GUI to do any number of sysadmin type tasks. It took a signficant of sweat on my part just to get an OSX to play nicely with our NIS server whereas Linux just worked. I actually prefer the Windows (shudder) GUI to a Mac, but it's probably just my Mac ignorance.
Perhaps for a laptop, but I'd never get a Mac desktop.
That's correct, but it is also bleeding a huge amount of mass so it is not a case of getting something for nothing.
Insightful?! This is incorrect, see:a lthcar ehelp/ns07172002.cfm
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Let me sum up the 2001 figures:
Marketing and Advertising:45.4 Billion
Research and Development:19.1 Billion
That's an advantage for one development cycle, but that advantage disappeared a long time ago.
Does being a medical doctor or an engineer mean you are a perpetuator or a collaborator? The people I talked to were not even party members and were not at all directly involved with the repressive arm of the state.
I know the reason for some, since I've talked to older people living in Eastern Europe and asked. Basically it boils down to working hard your whole life (some with nice professional jobs) and then watching your nice pension be destroyed by inflation in the transition to capitalism and your lifestyle plummet. Things really were materially better for them under the old system, although all of them are happy to see the political repression gone. The problem is that the same people in many cases that ran the country under communism and now doing so under capitalism. The more things change, the more they stay the same....
A single payer health care system may have been rejected (to be honest I'm not familiar with the details of the proposals in those 2 states) but that doesn't mean that the reasons for rejection were sound. You say Americans don't want their taxes raised to pay for lower quality health care (who would!) but is that this is not the case that this would occur. Anecdotal evidence aside, you are aware that Canada spends less as a % of GDP (includes all private and public monies) than the United States on health care (in both absolute and purchasing power parity terms)? This implies that health care is cheaper in Canada. In terms of quality, you can look at various measures of public health (like infant morality, life expectancy) and Canada edges out the US in both those areas (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2149799.st m#table)
Unfortunately I couldn't find more comprehensive stats than that.
Ahhh, but US citizens do pay more for health care (as a % of GDP) and I can tell you that Alberta and BC have higher quality health care than Kasier Permenante in Georgia from personal experience.
At least one form of anarchy (anarcho-syndicalism) has more or less worked in the past (parts of Republican Spain during the Spanish Civil War) so I think you should up your 20 person limit. Google for the keywords if you are interested.
What are you talking about, Hitler didn't transform Germany from an agricultural country into an industrial one! That had been done decades earlier, Hitler just massively increased public spending (mostly on the military) before leading the country into ruin.
That's 7 months rent for me...
But why further put them in the hole and having to work their way out to provide a living for them and theirs?
You could reverse the question and ask why do the rest of us not do not have that right. Actually most artists who make large sums of money mostly through CD sales don't have that right anyway, it's been sold to RCA/Sony/etc... the same way my rights for any code I write are properly of my employer. So in reality the people we are putting in the hole here at the members of the RIAA and a few very wealthy artists. I personally don't think anybody should continue to make millions for music they published years ago, it's not only that I think that others are more deserving in our society (teachers for instance) but also because they are now making money without working. That just seems parasitic to me.
Even most two or three year olds know that if you take something for nothing then it is stealing
Nevermind children, do you really believe that you are stealing when sun warms your living place? You may laugh at the example, but the sky can become a commodity if intellectual property can. You may one day pay for the sun to shine in your living room, and I don't think it make it any mor e legitimate if the sky is auctioned off to the power companies the way the government auctioned (gave away actually) electro magnetic frequencies to the telecoms.
Stealing implies a loss, when one child takes a building block and runs off to play by himself that is stealing. But if they play together it is called sharing and fortunately I believe this is still encouraged in the nursery schools.
There is enough actual scarcity in the world that we don't need to create more of it by artificially restricting the flow of information/music. Call me a radical, but in my mind technology is supposed to free us from sarcity, not provide novel justfications to create it.
but I do not see how contributing to that by not buying music is a good thing
It's a good thing because more people will enjoy music, not just the music they can afford. Artists will still make money with live shows and merchandising anyway, they just won't make millions from multi-platinum records anymore.
It's great that you take responsbility for your actions, but I just don't think this 15 year old did anything wrong (even if it is illegal).