You are kidding right ? They are just dropping ping-requests.
It would be incredibly stupid if they added the AAAA-record and you couldn't connect to it. Older browsers would need to wait half a minute to try the address from the A-record.
It really does work:
$ telnet whitehouse.gov http Trying 2001:218:2007:2:8800::fc4... Connected to whitehouse.gov. Escape character is '^]'.
Really ? IPv6 on Windows has privacy extensions enabled by default*, which means it will use a different randomly generated IPv6-address every day when it needs to setup a client-connection. Like for example connecting to a website.
What is there to map ?
* other operatings systems like Linux and Mac also support this, but not all versions have it enabled by default
I started with Debian I stayed with Debian-based. Debian on the server and Ubuntu LTS with GNOME-session-fallback on the desktop (GNOME 3 that has the panel and looks like GNOME 2). I think I'm gonna install Debian testing on the desktop too.
Just to see what it is like I installed others like Fedora, Mandriva, Suse, Slackware, CentOS/RHEL of course, never found a reason to switch on the server or desktop.
By buying their products wages in China have been going up 12% each year for couple of years now and worker conditions have improved as well.
I wouldn't call it paradise of course.
Some European manufactures have started producing in Europe again, cause ? Those previously mentioned higher wages in China and higher oil prices driving up cost of transport.
Some companies in the US have actually opened up previously closed factories. The wages of what people make in those US factories is still lower than when they closed.
I wouldn't be surprised if the government will fund the research for decades until it is almost done, then some large energy company will look at it, replicate what they've done and complete the last part and patent it.
Actually Firefox OS does not tarket the high-end phone market, but the lower end.
HTML5-applications don't need to depend on a server. Anything which will be on the phone by default will certainly not depend on an Internet connection.
Their "catching name" will probably be Firefox OS (or maybe people will be able to buy a "Firefox Phone"). Firefox is a name which many people already know.
"Sure, with some effort even HTML-based apps can look "native" and good, but from what I've seen from Tizen and FirefoxOS the HTML-code to get there is simply atrocious."
Funny, as this discussion is on a page which discusses Firefox OS. So the HTML-based apps are native to the platform.
"Unhosted web apps do not harvest user data onto a server. For both users and web developers this has many advantages over the more server-centric web 2.0 architecture that's typically used in web-based Software-as-a-Service (hosted web apps), and in same-origin AJAX apps (so called "one-page apps") that use one tightly coupled backend."
"Because unhosted web apps don't force the use of their servers on you, you can sync your data yourself, to a place that you trust. Dutch universities already run such a 'remote storage' service, specifically designed to be compatible with unhosted web apps."
"With your data living outside the app, you can switch back and forth between apps without even exporting and importing. Better than data liberation, this is personal data freedom brought to the web."
https://github.com/mozilla/browserid Project To allow you to login with only an emil address to sites in similair fashion as OpenID/OAuth, SAML , but is probably easier to use for mere mortals and allows for proper privacy and which does not make you dependenant on for example Facebook.
So you can run their software on your own server.
Heck, I am running their Sync software on my own server and it works.
Although the difference is, all those platforms do have native applications. Boot2Gecko really is just Linux kernel and some userspace code to talk to hardware (think of: wpa_supplicant) and their browser core:
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I doubt you'd want to eat it, they heat the sugur till it is carbon.
You are kidding right ? They are just dropping ping-requests.
It would be incredibly stupid if they added the AAAA-record and you couldn't connect to it. Older browsers would need to wait half a minute to try the address from the A-record.
It really does work:
$ telnet whitehouse.gov http
Trying 2001:218:2007:2:8800::fc4...
Connected to whitehouse.gov.
Escape character is '^]'.
He meant in comparison to his IPv4 traffic.
It isn't that people don't want others to run their networks as they see fit.
The argument you hear a lot is: NAT is more secure then just a firewall.
Which is something a lot of people disagree with, it only adds some obfuscation.
And obfuscation does not make it more secure.
Really ? IPv6 on Windows has privacy extensions enabled by default*, which means it will use a different randomly generated IPv6-address every day when it needs to setup a client-connection. Like for example connecting to a website.
What is there to map ?
* other operatings systems like Linux and Mac also support this, but not all versions have it enabled by default
These are websites, you don't use NAT for websites.
The websites are port 80 (http) or port 443 (https). If you have 5 public IP-addresses, then you have 5 ports 80.
What you can do use a HTTP/1.1 virtual hosts or a reverse proxy/loadbalancer so you can choose to redirect requests based on URL or domainname.
To bad some older systems don't support the same for HTTPS (called SNI) so you can have is 5 websites with HTTPS.
IPv6 isn't too complex, it's just different from IPv4 and that is what you are used to.
T-mobile in the US has it enable for their smartphone users.
"If this happens we may not see IPv6 for another 15 years at LEAST"
I think you don't know how well carrier grade NAT* would scale. Which is: not so much.
* The NAT at the ISP which would a second NAT for most access customers.
I started with Debian I stayed with Debian-based. Debian on the server and Ubuntu LTS with GNOME-session-fallback on the desktop (GNOME 3 that has the panel and looks like GNOME 2). I think I'm gonna install Debian testing on the desktop too.
Just to see what it is like I installed others like Fedora, Mandriva, Suse, Slackware, CentOS/RHEL of course, never found a reason to switch on the server or desktop.
Why would you say that ? It can run on an Android Linux kernel or even the less obvious choice of running it on the Raspberry Pi:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/B2G_build_prerequisites
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Firefox-OS-Mozilla-Raspberry-Pi,16883.html
You did not read Slashdot yesterday ?:
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/07/06/1551237/telefonica-shows-prototype-firefox-os-phone
The plan is to release a phone early next year:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/firefox-os-will-be-on-zte-phones-early-next-year-50009258/
By buying their products wages in China have been going up 12% each year for couple of years now and worker conditions have improved as well.
I wouldn't call it paradise of course.
Some European manufactures have started producing in Europe again, cause ? Those previously mentioned higher wages in China and higher oil prices driving up cost of transport.
Some companies in the US have actually opened up previously closed factories. The wages of what people make in those US factories is still lower than when they closed.
But it's a start...?
That never happend, I don't believe poeple from oil companies sing Hallelujah.
I wouldn't be surprised if the government will fund the research for decades until it is almost done, then some large energy company will look at it, replicate what they've done and complete the last part and patent it.
What did you expect ? Microsoft isn't in the business to give away things for free, you'd think it would be obvious.
Actually Firefox OS does not tarket the high-end phone market, but the lower end.
HTML5-applications don't need to depend on a server. Anything which will be on the phone by default will certainly not depend on an Internet connection.
I believe they will first target the South American market. Why ? Because the iOS and Android based devices are very expensive to import.
If I understand it correctly Mozilla just makes the software and the carrier delivers (produces, locally sources ?) the hardware.
Their "catching name" will probably be Firefox OS (or maybe people will be able to buy a "Firefox Phone"). Firefox is a name which many people already know.
I don't see how that is a bad idea.
"Sure, with some effort even HTML-based apps can look "native" and good, but from what I've seen from Tizen and FirefoxOS the HTML-code to get there is simply atrocious."
Funny, as this discussion is on a page which discusses Firefox OS. So the HTML-based apps are native to the platform.
Why do apps needs servers ? Really HTML5 supports running without servers just fine.
Actually, HTML5 was specifically created to make "apps".
Also I believe Firefox OS, PhoneGap, Tizen all use the W3C widgets standard to for defining HTML5-based applications.
Funny you mention QML, as it clearly derived from HTML.
Yes, the S2 is a one of the development phones of Firefox OS.
That is exactly what the Unhosted project is all about:
http://www.unhosted.org/
"Unhosted web apps do not harvest user data onto a server. For both users and web developers this has many advantages over the more server-centric web 2.0 architecture that's typically used in web-based Software-as-a-Service (hosted web apps), and in same-origin AJAX apps (so called "one-page apps") that use one tightly coupled backend."
"Because unhosted web apps don't force the use of their servers on you, you can sync your data yourself, to a place that you trust. Dutch universities already run such a 'remote storage' service, specifically designed to be compatible with unhosted web apps."
"With your data living outside the app, you can switch back and forth between apps without even exporting and importing. Better than data liberation, this is personal data freedom brought to the web."
There is even a W3C specification:
http://www.w3.org/community/unhosted/wiki/RemoteStorage
Firefox OS does not depend on the network, the whole system support "View Source" just like any webpage. There is no closed source server component.
All the server projects Mozilla does have actually are all open source projects, like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_Sync (bookmarks, history, password syncing)
https://github.com/mozilla/browserid Project To allow you to login with only an emil address to sites in similair fashion as OpenID/OAuth, SAML , but is probably easier to use for mere mortals and allows for proper privacy and which does not make you dependenant on for example Facebook.
So you can run their software on your own server.
Heck, I am running their Sync software on my own server and it works.
Yes, kind of like Tizen and Windows 8 Metro too.
Although the difference is, all those platforms do have native applications. Boot2Gecko really is just Linux kernel and some userspace code to talk to hardware (think of: wpa_supplicant) and their browser core:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Architecture