Well, I apologize for the derogatory comment, it was uncalled for. However everything after "It never ceases..." was not directed at you personally.
I agree, if a piece of hardware doesn't work under Win2K, the OS should simply not try to install itself.
My experience with Win2K has shown it to be stable. This is coming from years of dealing with NT4 and Win95/98 crashes on the job. Invariably, when I hear reports of Win2K crashing, it is due to something other than the OS itself. My point was that someone with enough brains to run a UNIX server should find Win2K to be a walk in the park.
At any rate, I'm sorry I offended you, and I will try to refrain from making personal comments in the future.
MS 'embraced and extended' kerberos, actually causing interoperability to not work. If you had Win2K kerberos clients, they had to use Win2K servers to authenticate.
So, tell me again, this is an acceptable use of your code as a BSD developer?
I like BSD too. And Windows, and Linux(see my user info).
However I stand by my assertion that Linux is more popular, and I can only attribute that to the difference in licences.
As far as stating most developers would rather not have their code end up in Windows - just look at the kerberos fiasco. MS 'embraced and extended' kerberos, actually causing interoperability with UNIX systems to not work. Can you honestly tell me you would condone that as a BSD developer?
With more developers, Linux will progress at a faster rate than the BSD's. That's not to say the BSD's won't.
I realize you were joking but... MS would never say nasty things about the BSD's since their TCP/IP stack and kerberos are largely based on BSD code.
They love BSD for this reason. They have told their developers to not even look at GPL code while on the job.
If anything BSD is doomed by their license(trying hard not to troll here). Most open source developers would rather not have their code end up in Windows. Hence, eventually the popularity of Linux and the GPL with developers will mean that Linux will likely overtake the BSDs in performance in the not-too-distant future.
How many of us have had professors who wanted us to do math problems by hand because calculators made solving the problems too easy?
Or made us code stuff that was already in the STL or an existing library?
I can see the point for learning something once, but these examples usually existed in classes where you were not allowed to use advanced calculators or the STL or(name your specific example here) throughout the entire class!
And they give the lamest excuses for making us hold onto the way they learned to do something! "If you get stuck on a desert island, you'll be glad you learned how to use a slide rule." Yeah, right.
If humanity is to progress, we must learn things once, and learn how not to reinvent the wheel. The skill we should be learn is to find out whether or not a problem has been solved before - if so apply the solution, and if not, be able to use our wit, intelligence, or if those are lacking, a smarter persons wit and intelligence to solve the problem.
Our society is getting an order of magnitude more complex each generation. We need to have computers do our grunt thinking for us if we are to keep up with advancing technology.
I would like to announce the solution to this difficult scientific problem as well as to establish prior art against any future patent holders. The following code is now in the public domain, feel free to add it to your security product.
Here is my algorithm for factoring prime numbers.
double FactorPrime(double PrimeNum)
{
cout << "The factors of prime number " << PrimeNum << " are 1 and << PrimeNum << ".";
return PrimeNum;
}
This leads me to believe that Win2k is not stable. It simply cannot be trusted on all machines.
I'd expect someone with such a low/. number to be smarter than that. Of course it cannot be trusted on all machines. That's why there is the hardware compatibility list. Don't even try to tell me Linux is not the same. You must make sure all your hardware will work with Linux, otherwise you will have problems.
It never ceases to amaze me the number of/.'ers who have the dumbest problems with Win2K. They have no problems recompiling kernels, patching BIND, or hunting down obscure equipment that has Linux drivers for it, but when it comes to ensuring they have compatible equipment and drivers before installing Win2K, well that seems to be too much to ask.
So, here in a nutshell is your guide to a stable Win2K. 1) Check the HCL and make sure you have compatible equipment and drivers. 2) Check any software that you have so to make sure there won't be any surprises with Win2K. 3) Install.
Use common sense like you would with Linux and you can get a very stable system.
Everyone is slamming the $999 price tag, but that's the version aimed at Windows developers who want to port their apps to Linux.
The "open edition" will cost $99 for a packaged version or be available as a free download. This version allows people to create only open-source software under the GPL.
Even the prez spent over 10 years pissing away doing nothing.
And besides, there's really nothing wrong with that. Read Zen & The Art of Motorcycle Maintainence.
"Nothing is often a good thing to do, and almost always the right thing to say." -- Will Durant
Also, watch Office Space. 99% of us here who make any sort of money have jobs just like those characters. You're not missing much.
And for God's sake, listening to Pink Floyd when you're depressed is like washing down the valium with vodka. Throw on some Rush or something that will lift your spirits.
...is a search that can read our minds and instantly infer the most relavent results.
Examples:
Searching for "John Smith" should return my friend John Smith and no one else.
Searching for "C++ implementation of Knuth algorithms" should return exactly that, and leave out references to C++, Knuth, or algorithms.
At the very least, large search results should immediately separate the mass of results into categories - i.e. "Jessica Alba" - up at the top should be pr0n - fan sites - commercial sites - etc. Yahoo does this, but there are way too many categories. Really, the web has maybe 10-12 different broad types of sites - commercial, homepages, academic sites, pr0n, multimedia, weblog - you get the point, the list isn't that long. We should be able to filter entire broad categories out of our searches. Altavista does a fairly good job with multimedia searches - unfortunately there still is way too much manual searching - it still doesn't read our minds enough within the broad category search.
Google uses PageRank to determine the order of results, but does it track the sites its users click on after performing a search? No, but it should. Further, it should track users individually and be able to customize its results based on that persons individual personality. The more you use a search engine, the better it should work for you.
I can't stress this enough: A search engine needs to be able to read our minds.
I would LOVE to live in a house designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. No architectural degree - he studied civil engineering briefly.
A couple of famous people in the industry you may have heard about: Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, John Carmack - no degrees. Are you going to tell me you are a better programmer than John Carmack? Do you really think you have a better handle on software engineering than Microsoft's Chief Software Architect(funny, but yes, thats his title).
Something like 100,000 software jobs open up every year, while our universities only graduate about 30,000 people with CS degrees. So why not have industry-standard apprenticeship programs. What about bright people who change careers mid-life(I fall into this category). I plan on eventually getting my degree, but were talking 4-5 years of taking 1 or 2 classes a semester. I have to work, and engineering schools generally are not geared to handle working adults. Big problem, but the unis are not addressing it.
You may be making life easier for yourself by using the degree to separate the wheat from the chaff. But don't delude yourself - you will miss out on hiring some good people by your own limiting criteria.
I've been using stateful firewalling(with an OpenBSD box) for quite some time now. A PII for this system is overkill for a firewall absorbing ~100000 hits daily with ~100 hosts behind it.
You should also consider that your firewall should be just that, and nothing else. No X, no Apache, no extraneous servers that don't need to be running on that particular machine.
YMMV - but a firewall, even one that keeps state, is not an especially computationally intense undertaking.
Funny how you should mention XML, Timothy. Alright, anyone with IE5, just try to open slashdot.xml. Notice the error? Its on this very story.
Now Timothy, I know you are fond of using(apparently Linux/Unix only) umlauts, but this is at least the 2nd time a story of yours has make the slashdot.xml page not work with an industry-standard XML parser.
What's the deal here? Anyone? Are you doing this on purpose to fuck with people using MS software?
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I have long wanted a database to be integral to the OS. However the way I have thought of it would be instead of using the filesystem, you would have a table. The record names would be something like "FileName", "Owner", "LastModified", "Text", etc.
This would be great for text based files and spreadsheets. The possibilities for searching and updating your files would be greatly enhanced by having them maintained by a database.
I don't think a database would be appropriate for graphics or music files(other than storing pointers to those files, but certainly any text based file would be ideal.
Given my thoughts on how a database enabled filesystem would work, I don't think very many joins or triggers would be necessary. Most things could be handled by single tables.
Besides, there is the matter that mySQL doesn't support foreign keys or triggers anyway, and last I checked those features weren't on the to do list.:)
If the coding style you advocate is the standard with Java/JSP programmers, then you're right, I did misunderstand the "separate code from the interface comments".
You advocate pretty much the same style of programming I do, although I don't have much experience with JSP's. I agree completely - your application/business logic belongs in classes and functions, but code that is used to output variables, database records, etc. usually should be in the HTML(or XML, etc.).
At least one other poster advocated the "everything in a servlet" approach, stating that it could be changed to a GUI client/server type program more easily. If that is important, then I can see the advantage, however, I think its more likely you will need to work with graphic/web designers and in that case, the "mixing output code with HTML" approach works better.
I don't always agree with the near religious dogma of separating code and HTML. Yes, your classes and functions should be separate. But the thing we have to remember is that we are ultimately creating web pages.
In a lot of cases, I think its easier to just mix the code. Say you are presenting a customer a page to update his/her customer information. You retrieve the information in the database, then display it in a form. I think its much more natural to do things HTML style such as >(sorry, ASP code here) than try to spit out the HTML from inside a DisplayCustomer() function.
In pretty much any programming language I've ever used, the code must somehow interface with the GUI. So if you're doing web programming, I think one should be just as comfortable with HTML as they are with their programming language. To me there are many situations where it is more appropriate to have code interspersed with the HTML than to try to output everything from the classes and functions you are using.
In my experience, this can be just as flexible and maintainable as doing everything within the code. In the above example, I retrieved the customer record and displayed it in a table. If the underlying data ever changed it would easier to fix this than it would be to change the function. And doing this doesn't prevent me from using classes, functions, or HTML templates that speed development and promote code reuse.
Not only that, but I have to admit, sometimes when I am working with complex tables(tables that have rowspans, colspans, or nested tables) I will often view them with a visual editor like FrontPage, not because I don't know HTML, but because its faster and more productive. I can still do this if I have code inside the HTML, rather than the other way around. Not possible if everything is inside a system.out.println() or whatever.
$1500 for a game character?!! Holy shit, my roommate should just quit his job and start developing these characters. Question is, how long does it take to create something that someone will shell out this kind of money for?
Bob, you forgot to ask a few things in your post. I don't quite understand since you've apparently attempted to submit patches to the BSD project and had them rejected for no reason.
So, I've taken the liberty of reposting your last BSD post. Here is the original post if you want to see it.
***Bob Abooey's Last BSD Post: ***
Couldn't agree more. In fact I'm really tired of the whole BSD camp acting like the red-headed bastard stepchild. BSD just flat out fails due to the Amiga type zealotry which impedes clear thinking in many cases.
I have submitted a well ducumented and heavily tested patch for BSD which provides code and a clean interface to remove the hard limit of 2000 maximum processes, but it was rejected for no good reason. I guess they really don't want to play in the big leagues when it comes to big iron servers. I have also re-written chunks of BSD code which I run on my own personal RDBMS back-end which fixes many of the *real* problems with BSD, namely the file system which is slow and rife with corruption, the fine grain low level context switching which kills any sort of performance you might get by using multi threaded apps (that's true multi-threaded apps, not the "forking PID" type). Yeah, why don't the BSD zealots ever address the kernel space addressing scheme which still relies on the old VMS paging concept which does nothing but increase the kernel-space overhead.
I could go on and on but I won't. It's not often I make a real post so I hope you guys understand that I'm really upset here. Thanks
***End Bob Abooey's last BSD post***
Wow, impressive. So Bob, when are you releasing that RDBMS that you wrote yourself that replaces the BSD filesystem? Can we expect to see it on freshmeat any time soon?
Also, if FreeBSD's paging system and TCP/IP stack leave so much to be desired, where can I turn to find a better system?
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I agree, if a piece of hardware doesn't work under Win2K, the OS should simply not try to install itself.
My experience with Win2K has shown it to be stable. This is coming from years of dealing with NT4 and Win95/98 crashes on the job. Invariably, when I hear reports of Win2K crashing, it is due to something other than the OS itself. My point was that someone with enough brains to run a UNIX server should find Win2K to be a walk in the park.
At any rate, I'm sorry I offended you, and I will try to refrain from making personal comments in the future.
So, tell me again, this is an acceptable use of your code as a BSD developer?
However I stand by my assertion that Linux is more popular, and I can only attribute that to the difference in licences.
As far as stating most developers would rather not have their code end up in Windows - just look at the kerberos fiasco. MS 'embraced and extended' kerberos, actually causing interoperability with UNIX systems to not work. Can you honestly tell me you would condone that as a BSD developer?
With more developers, Linux will progress at a faster rate than the BSD's. That's not to say the BSD's won't.
They love BSD for this reason. They have told their developers to not even look at GPL code while on the job.
If anything BSD is doomed by their license(trying hard not to troll here). Most open source developers would rather not have their code end up in Windows. Hence, eventually the popularity of Linux and the GPL with developers will mean that Linux will likely overtake the BSDs in performance in the not-too-distant future.
Or made us code stuff that was already in the STL or an existing library?
I can see the point for learning something once, but these examples usually existed in classes where you were not allowed to use advanced calculators or the STL or(name your specific example here) throughout the entire class!
And they give the lamest excuses for making us hold onto the way they learned to do something! "If you get stuck on a desert island, you'll be glad you learned how to use a slide rule." Yeah, right.
If humanity is to progress, we must learn things once, and learn how not to reinvent the wheel. The skill we should be learn is to find out whether or not a problem has been solved before - if so apply the solution, and if not, be able to use our wit, intelligence, or if those are lacking, a smarter persons wit and intelligence to solve the problem.
Our society is getting an order of magnitude more complex each generation. We need to have computers do our grunt thinking for us if we are to keep up with advancing technology.
I would like to announce the solution to this difficult scientific problem as well as to establish prior art against any future patent holders. The following code is now in the public domain, feel free to add it to your security product.
Here is my algorithm for factoring prime numbers.
double FactorPrime(double PrimeNum)
{
cout << "The factors of prime number " << PrimeNum << " are 1 and << PrimeNum << ".";
return PrimeNum;
}
I'd expect someone with such a low /. number to be smarter than that. Of course it cannot be trusted on all machines. That's why there is the hardware compatibility list. Don't even try to tell me Linux is not the same. You must make sure all your hardware will work with Linux, otherwise you will have problems.
It never ceases to amaze me the number of /.'ers who have the dumbest problems with Win2K. They have no problems recompiling kernels, patching BIND, or hunting down obscure equipment that has Linux drivers for it, but when it comes to ensuring they have compatible equipment and drivers before installing Win2K, well that seems to be too much to ask.
So, here in a nutshell is your guide to a stable Win2K. 1) Check the HCL and make sure you have compatible equipment and drivers. 2) Check any software that you have so to make sure there won't be any surprises with Win2K. 3) Install.
Use common sense like you would with Linux and you can get a very stable system.
The "open edition" will cost $99 for a packaged version or be available as a free download. This version allows people to create only open-source software under the GPL.
Oh, and that should be high school students, MCSE's, and slashdot "journalists".
And besides, there's really nothing wrong with that. Read Zen & The Art of Motorcycle Maintainence.
"Nothing is often a good thing to do, and almost always the right thing to say." -- Will Durant
Also, watch Office Space. 99% of us here who make any sort of money have jobs just like those characters. You're not missing much.
And for God's sake, listening to Pink Floyd when you're depressed is like washing down the valium with vodka. Throw on some Rush or something that will lift your spirits.
Examples:
Searching for "John Smith" should return my friend John Smith and no one else.
Searching for "C++ implementation of Knuth algorithms" should return exactly that, and leave out references to C++, Knuth, or algorithms.
At the very least, large search results should immediately separate the mass of results into categories - i.e. "Jessica Alba" - up at the top should be pr0n - fan sites - commercial sites - etc. Yahoo does this, but there are way too many categories. Really, the web has maybe 10-12 different broad types of sites - commercial, homepages, academic sites, pr0n, multimedia, weblog - you get the point, the list isn't that long. We should be able to filter entire broad categories out of our searches. Altavista does a fairly good job with multimedia searches - unfortunately there still is way too much manual searching - it still doesn't read our minds enough within the broad category search.
Google uses PageRank to determine the order of results, but does it track the sites its users click on after performing a search? No, but it should. Further, it should track users individually and be able to customize its results based on that persons individual personality. The more you use a search engine, the better it should work for you.
I can't stress this enough: A search engine needs to be able to read our minds.
A couple of famous people in the industry you may have heard about: Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, John Carmack - no degrees. Are you going to tell me you are a better programmer than John Carmack? Do you really think you have a better handle on software engineering than Microsoft's Chief Software Architect(funny, but yes, thats his title).
Something like 100,000 software jobs open up every year, while our universities only graduate about 30,000 people with CS degrees. So why not have industry-standard apprenticeship programs. What about bright people who change careers mid-life(I fall into this category). I plan on eventually getting my degree, but were talking 4-5 years of taking 1 or 2 classes a semester. I have to work, and engineering schools generally are not geared to handle working adults. Big problem, but the unis are not addressing it.
You may be making life easier for yourself by using the degree to separate the wheat from the chaff. But don't delude yourself - you will miss out on hiring some good people by your own limiting criteria.
You should also consider that your firewall should be just that, and nothing else. No X, no Apache, no extraneous servers that don't need to be running on that particular machine.
YMMV - but a firewall, even one that keeps state, is not an especially computationally intense undertaking.
Now Timothy, I know you are fond of using(apparently Linux/Unix only) umlauts, but this is at least the 2nd time a story of yours has make the slashdot.xml page not work with an industry-standard XML parser.
What's the deal here? Anyone? Are you doing this on purpose to fuck with people using MS software?
This would be great for text based files and spreadsheets. The possibilities for searching and updating your files would be greatly enhanced by having them maintained by a database.
I don't think a database would be appropriate for graphics or music files(other than storing pointers to those files, but certainly any text based file would be ideal.
Given my thoughts on how a database enabled filesystem would work, I don't think very many joins or triggers would be necessary. Most things could be handled by single tables.
Besides, there is the matter that mySQL doesn't support foreign keys or triggers anyway, and last I checked those features weren't on the to do list. :)
You advocate pretty much the same style of programming I do, although I don't have much experience with JSP's. I agree completely - your application/business logic belongs in classes and functions, but code that is used to output variables, database records, etc. usually should be in the HTML(or XML, etc.).
At least one other poster advocated the "everything in a servlet" approach, stating that it could be changed to a GUI client/server type program more easily. If that is important, then I can see the advantage, however, I think its more likely you will need to work with graphic/web designers and in that case, the "mixing output code with HTML" approach works better.
In a lot of cases, I think its easier to just mix the code. Say you are presenting a customer a page to update his/her customer information. You retrieve the information in the database, then display it in a form. I think its much more natural to do things HTML style such as >(sorry, ASP code here) than try to spit out the HTML from inside a DisplayCustomer() function.
In pretty much any programming language I've ever used, the code must somehow interface with the GUI. So if you're doing web programming, I think one should be just as comfortable with HTML as they are with their programming language. To me there are many situations where it is more appropriate to have code interspersed with the HTML than to try to output everything from the classes and functions you are using.
In my experience, this can be just as flexible and maintainable as doing everything within the code. In the above example, I retrieved the customer record and displayed it in a table. If the underlying data ever changed it would easier to fix this than it would be to change the function. And doing this doesn't prevent me from using classes, functions, or HTML templates that speed development and promote code reuse.
Not only that, but I have to admit, sometimes when I am working with complex tables(tables that have rowspans, colspans, or nested tables) I will often view them with a visual editor like FrontPage, not because I don't know HTML, but because its faster and more productive. I can still do this if I have code inside the HTML, rather than the other way around. Not possible if everything is inside a system.out.println() or whatever.
Check out this following illegal link to ebay, for example.
$1500 for a game character?!! Holy shit, my roommate should just quit his job and start developing these characters. Question is, how long does it take to create something that someone will shell out this kind of money for?
So, I've taken the liberty of reposting your last BSD post. Here is the original post if you want to see it.
***Bob Abooey's Last BSD Post: ***
Couldn't agree more. In fact I'm really tired of the whole BSD camp acting like the red-headed bastard stepchild. BSD just flat out fails due to the Amiga type zealotry which impedes clear thinking in many cases.
I have submitted a well ducumented and heavily tested patch for BSD which provides code and a clean interface to remove the hard limit of 2000 maximum processes, but it was rejected for no good reason. I guess they really don't want to play in the big leagues when it comes to big iron servers. I have also re-written chunks of BSD code which I run on my own personal RDBMS back-end which fixes many of the *real* problems with BSD, namely the file system which is slow and rife with corruption, the fine grain low level context switching which kills any sort of performance you might get by using multi threaded apps (that's true multi-threaded apps, not the "forking PID" type). Yeah, why don't the BSD zealots ever address the kernel space addressing scheme which still relies on the old VMS paging concept which does nothing but increase the kernel-space overhead.
I could go on and on but I won't. It's not often I make a real post so I hope you guys understand that I'm really upset here. Thanks
***End Bob Abooey's last BSD post***
Wow, impressive. So Bob, when are you releasing that RDBMS that you wrote yourself that replaces the BSD filesystem? Can we expect to see it on freshmeat any time soon?
Also, if FreeBSD's paging system and TCP/IP stack leave so much to be desired, where can I turn to find a better system?
Bob?
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try it again. The link worked for me.
try it again. The link worked for me.
to the point of saying the First Amendment shouldn't apply to the internet. I can't imagine any /. reader taking him seriously.
hmm...sounds an awful lot like setting up slashcode.
That is patently untrue. I have seen stories posted by both Brits AND Canadians.