But because of their
available capital, they could do it.
Sure.. and if a company wants to sell products at a loss.. that is their right... as is charging high prices.. In todays global economy this is much harder and there is almost always an alternative. I still dont see why the government needs to get involved.
Business does not have the consumer's interests in mind, no matter what the libertarians will tell you.
they have their own interests in mind.. which is fine... it's called "the ivisible hand" principle.. adam smith... ya know?
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or what ab0ut a fing3rprin7 l0ck? so identific4ti0n c0uld be sent to the p0lic3 when the attempt to 0pen 1t h4pp3n5.
What if it had lazerz and 5m0ke b0mbs!! wouldn7 that be c0ol? I c4n get s0me p4r7z 4nd h4x0r 0n3 70g37h3r 0u7 0f 5p4r3 m07h3rb04rdz 4nd 9unp0wd3r!!!!!!! 7H47 WUD B3 1337!!!!
Sometimes enforcing bad laws is what gets them changed.
I know. It sucks.
your problem is with the legislature, not the cops
Why can't it be both... because it is. The "they told me to do it" defense doesn't hold much water.
As far as what laws would
change if none were enforced....
I'm not advocating anarchy! I just think the police department needs to be more aware of what they are enforcing. I don't believe I have ever heard a case where the police department stood against a law.
I guarantee that you could be enough of a pain in some lawmaker's arse to get something changed for the better
My passion isn't law changing, it IS technology. But as a citizen of this country, I should have the ability to effect the government in some way without disrupting MY quest for happiness completely. Many, Many laws are passed that I had absolutly no say in. The net growth of the number of laws and spending in this country is increasing at a scary rate. And we have no substantial say in it unless you want to become a politician.
It IS a free country, and you are free to leave if you really hate it.
why does metalica only let "their label" sell the music? you think artists like this deal? its the copyrights that the music industry forces the artists to sign over thats the problem!! it the government CAUSING this.. they are not the solution... they already made the problem.. its part of the never ending government ploy to create problems so they can later "fix" them with MORE regulation...
1) we still need services.. who wants to do the dirty work?
2) But if there were no patents/copyrights then all it would take is one person to release the plans for the replicator... other coutries would make it.. it couldnt be stopped.. it's too cool... The main problem is that the government has too much power which I think you expressed pretty well...
Or maybe the system has been so degraded from its origonal design that doing ANYTHING "the way they were meant to be".. Or maybe the system creates such sheep now that no one cares and would just as soon be in a police state than get off their ass and react.
I do have a problem with law makers. and the electoral college and the census, and the USPS, and the NSA,FBI,CIA,FCC, FTC, FAA, DOE, EPA, etc..
I believe rape and murder should be against the law, as that is someone violating your *right* "to pursue happiness"... and if cops weren't WASTING so much time on stupid laws maybe they would have more time to enforce the important stuff... like rape and murder.
But mp3 is an infant technology its only a matter of time before the digital version has the potential to be clearer than the CD version. we dont have replicators yet either:) but the fact that mp3 is lossy doesnt break down the analogy... mp3 stuff is just preparing us for things right around the corner.
I know of no case filed by the RIAA that has touched on patent issues.
of course not.. sorry... finger slipped or something:)
What is it that 'SOMEONE' will come up with that will take market share away from the current record company behemoths and FORCE a reaction?
mp3 -> Napster/gnutella/freenet etc... what if there was no copyright? what if mp6 is 2x cd quality and 1/2 the size? Digital recording equipment has drop dramatically in the last few years... and marketing on the internet is pretty cheap.. cable television... the only thing keeping digital music from taking over is government right?
Unless the monopolist arranges matters so that people have great difficulty in finding or knowing about such alternatives, or by using their own resources to prevent any alternatives from being implemented.
How would you achieve this? without being caught and hated that is? and without government protection... which takes us to...
Of course, if you TRULY got the government out of the way, then there would be no such thing as "intellectual property", so no company would be able to hold onto a
government-sponsored monopoly on such information.
I dont respect the position. I dont agree with half the laws they enforce, so how can I respect the people that enforce them?
No one made any cop be a cop. they do it on their own free will. That means they must agree with what the job enforces.
I dont agree with what the author did either, he's an ass to be blunt. But, people who become police officers are nothing special, they uphold senseless laws and help support a decaying system. I dont believe in anarchy or anything. But imagine what laws would change if no one agreed to enforce them?
I HATE microsoft.. but yes I was/am on their side.
the recording industry has brought us a debate on copyright and patent issues. If you stagnate SOMEONE will come up with something to take market share and FORCE a reaction. It's not about business vs. consumers its about government vs. economics.
Left alone people find alternatives to monopoly services and goods. Thats the way the economy works.. either some new competiter comes in and forces the price down (if they can) or someone invents something better or just different to replace the monopolized good. eventually businesses would get the idea that treating your customers well and keeping them happy is a better investment than trying to fight the market price of the good/service. The only reason we have so many problems with monopolies these days is because of poor government regulations in the first place... the government its self is the worst of them all: they have a legal monopoly on violence (which is given to them in the constitution), BUT! we also have a USPS which is been trying to die for decades but ADVERTISING and government regulations keep it alive, lotteries! the poor mans tax IS ADVERTISED!, the military IS ADVERTISED! census IS ADVERTISED.. its just rediculous.. the government is out trust busting when it should be privatizing all these outdated services. What we need is a free economy not a government with free reign OVER the economy.
If you are interested in that... I like toys and to have fun... having fun for me is coding and learning.. toys are computers and big huge cars that run over things.. If I get the toys with out having to work and I can code for my self.. why share? Some people are ego driven, but not everyone.. some really smart people are smart cause they want to be, not cause they want everyone to know they are smart. I would probably share my work.. but I'm just sayin...
You can't replicate services (not all of them) who is going to pick up your trash all day if they dont have to? Who is going to wash your windows? Who would do all the dirty work if they can replicate everything they need to be happy? What reason does Farmer Fred have to design new fruits? Or maybe he does share a few fruits he makes with the world.. but it takes him 10 years to do it when he might have done it in 1 when he needed to innovate (sorry) to keep his income flowing... Marx has and always will be wrong.
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But because of their available capital, they could do it.
Sure.. and if a company wants to sell products at a loss.. that is their right... as is charging high prices.. In todays global economy this is much harder and there is almost always an alternative. I still dont see why the government needs to get involved.
Business does not have the consumer's interests in mind, no matter what the libertarians will tell you.
they have their own interests in mind.. which is fine... it's called "the ivisible hand" principle.. adam smith... ya know?
google didn't show me much:
Google results 1-4 of about 6 for Thief-cam. Search took 0.13 seconds.
got a link?
If it had a Built In Webcam (tm) you could tak3 pictures and send 7hem to y0u.
or what ab0ut a fing3rprin7 l0ck? so identific4ti0n c0uld be sent to the p0lic3 when the attempt to 0pen 1t h4pp3n5.
What if it had lazerz and 5m0ke b0mbs!! wouldn7 that be c0ol? I c4n get s0me p4r7z 4nd h4x0r 0n3 70g37h3r 0u7 0f 5p4r3 m07h3rb04rdz 4nd 9unp0wd3r!!!!!!! 7H47 WUD B3 1337!!!!
wow... I should go...
they created copyright... and continue to issue them.
I disagree.
... for now. And so Adam Smith hobbles along ... for now.
On what grounds? not that we can't agree to disagree.. I'm curious.
True enough, they are still scarce
The universe is finite... there must always be scarcity... or we will have reached a point where all such concepts are meaningless.
On my way... prat?
Nothing is worth doing when your a coward.
It isn't easy, but it can be done.
Doesnt that bother you? Its not easy to be heard...
The internet is another tool we can use to help that.
you sound like a concerned citizen.... if you are truely interested in this, email me, I've got a project I'm working on... you might be interested.
I sincerely hope that you are happier wherever you are going. Our world is far from perfect, but I would like it if more people found a happy life.
Thanks! I think it is going to be a long quest.
Sometimes enforcing bad laws is what gets them changed.
I know. It sucks.
your problem is with the legislature, not the cops
Why can't it be both... because it is. The "they told me to do it" defense doesn't hold much water.
As far as what laws would change if none were enforced....
I'm not advocating anarchy! I just think the police department needs to be more aware of what they are enforcing. I don't believe I have ever heard a case where the police department stood against a law.
I guarantee that you could be enough of a pain in some lawmaker's arse to get something changed for the better
My passion isn't law changing, it IS technology. But as a citizen of this country, I should have the ability to effect the government in some way without disrupting MY quest for happiness completely. Many, Many laws are passed that I had absolutly no say in. The net growth of the number of laws and spending in this country is increasing at a scary rate. And we have no substantial say in it unless you want to become a politician.
It IS a free country, and you are free to leave if you really hate it.
Almost time now... 4 more months.
why does metalica only let "their label" sell the music? you think artists like this deal? its the copyrights that the music industry forces the artists to sign over thats the problem!! it the government CAUSING this.. they are not the solution... they already made the problem.. its part of the never ending government ploy to create problems so they can later "fix" them with MORE regulation...
1) we still need services.. who wants to do the dirty work?
2) But if there were no patents/copyrights then all it would take is one person to release the plans for the replicator... other coutries would make it.. it couldnt be stopped.. it's too cool... The main problem is that the government has too much power which I think you expressed pretty well...
Nice! :)
It's good to be a god, what can I say?
Marx was a loon. living in a marxist society is as I imagine hell would be. (sorry, I dont need to imagine I'm a god... remember?)
Human nature came before human history.. sorry...
Labor, creativity, intelligence, land, time and motivation are all still scarce so Adam is just fine.
Or maybe the system has been so degraded from its origonal design that doing ANYTHING "the way they were meant to be".. Or maybe the system creates such sheep now that no one cares and would just as soon be in a police state than get off their ass and react.
I do have a problem with law makers. and the electoral college and the census, and the USPS, and the NSA,FBI,CIA,FCC, FTC, FAA, DOE, EPA, etc..
I hate this country.
I'd shoot the fucker with my consealed weapon!
I believe rape and murder should be against the law, as that is someone violating your *right* "to pursue happiness"... and if cops weren't WASTING so much time on stupid laws maybe they would have more time to enforce the important stuff... like rape and murder.
But mp3 is an infant technology its only a matter of time before the digital version has the potential to be clearer than the CD version. we dont have replicators yet either :) but the fact that mp3 is lossy doesnt break down the analogy... mp3 stuff is just preparing us for things right around the corner.
I know of no case filed by the RIAA that has touched on patent issues.
:)
What is it that 'SOMEONE' will come up with that will take market share away from the current record company behemoths and FORCE a reaction?
of course not.. sorry... finger slipped or something
mp3 -> Napster/gnutella/freenet etc... what if there was no copyright? what if mp6 is 2x cd quality and 1/2 the size? Digital recording equipment has drop dramatically in the last few years... and marketing on the internet is pretty cheap.. cable television... the only thing keeping digital music from taking over is government right?
Unless the monopolist arranges matters so that people have great difficulty in finding or knowing about such alternatives, or by using their own resources to prevent any alternatives from being implemented.
How would you achieve this? without being caught and hated that is? and without government protection... which takes us to...
Of course, if you TRULY got the government out of the way, then there would be no such thing as "intellectual property", so no company would be able to hold onto a government-sponsored monopoly on such information.
Is there any other way? mmmmmm... nope...
I dont respect the position. I dont agree with half the laws they enforce, so how can I respect the people that enforce them?
No one made any cop be a cop. they do it on their own free will. That means they must agree with what the job enforces.
I dont agree with what the author did either, he's an ass to be blunt. But, people who become police officers are nothing special, they uphold senseless laws and help support a decaying system. I dont believe in anarchy or anything. But imagine what laws would change if no one agreed to enforce them?
I HATE microsoft.. but yes I was/am on their side.
the recording industry has brought us a debate on copyright and patent issues. If you stagnate SOMEONE will come up with something to take market share and FORCE a reaction. It's not about business vs. consumers its about government vs. economics.
Left alone people find alternatives to monopoly services and goods. Thats the way the economy works.. either some new competiter comes in and forces the price down (if they can) or someone invents something better or just different to replace the monopolized good. eventually businesses would get the idea that treating your customers well and keeping them happy is a better investment than trying to fight the market price of the good/service. The only reason we have so many problems with monopolies these days is because of poor government regulations in the first place... the government its self is the worst of them all: they have a legal monopoly on violence (which is given to them in the constitution), BUT! we also have a USPS which is been trying to die for decades but ADVERTISING and government regulations keep it alive, lotteries! the poor mans tax IS ADVERTISED!, the military IS ADVERTISED! census IS ADVERTISED.. its just rediculous.. the government is out trust busting when it should be privatizing all these outdated services. What we need is a free economy not a government with free reign OVER the economy.
If you are interested in that... I like toys and to have fun... having fun for me is coding and learning.. toys are computers and big huge cars that run over things.. If I get the toys with out having to work and I can code for my self.. why share? Some people are ego driven, but not everyone.. some really smart people are smart cause they want to be, not cause they want everyone to know they are smart. I would probably share my work.. but I'm just sayin...
You can't replicate services (not all of them) who is going to pick up your trash all day if they dont have to? Who is going to wash your windows? Who would do all the dirty work if they can replicate everything they need to be happy? What reason does Farmer Fred have to design new fruits? Or maybe he does share a few fruits he makes with the world.. but it takes him 10 years to do it when he might have done it in 1 when he needed to innovate (sorry) to keep his income flowing... Marx has and always will be wrong.
you can replicate replicators :)