Who is being abused? I am saying that if people buy it, the price isn't "too high". There are alternatives to buying CD's, those that find them viable alternatives use it. Those that don't, don't (and spend $100 on the next britney CD). It doesn't take any organizing. It's not a government matter, it's economic.
Well, If thats the way you feel I guess you answer the book thing fine.. you are saying that every sale will actually be the sale of an EULA? So if you buy a book, you just agree to not replicate it right? so now even with replicators on physical objects.. we are right back to napster and the music industry again.. there is NO difference between a real BMW and a replicated one down to the molecular level..... how do you enforce contracts and keep people buying the "real McCoy" as it were...
once production is instant and cheap.. the only thing of value is creativity.. but what is going to encourage people to share their creativity with the world if they will be no better off than anyone else, because we all get our free BMW's and Lear Jets... I would think the next big invention would be replication proof products after the replicater is made....
the government has to take action to protect them.
Arrrgggghh... WHY?! Why do stupid people get baby sitters that the rest of us have to play along with? It's not fair to those of us who can make a decision about whether or not to buy a damn CD. If someone is soooooooo dumb that they will buy a $100 Britney Spears CD.. then SO BE IT!
I'm not saying we can replicate everything (although thats another interesting rant).. just Farmer Fred's Famous Fine Fruit... not even Pete's Pretty Peculiar Pickled Peppers... does it make a difference? what if you can suddenly make and distribute SUV's costlessly... and do so?
What if it's Fancy Fred's Fabuously Fine Fiction? It's cool for me to go around replicating books? What about cars? Farmer Fred spent a bunch of time on his fruit.. (obviously, cause its so damn famous)... he should go unrewarded and uncompensated?
I believe the community has a right to react, not the government. If it was brought to a public vote... sure.. but the government should just leave business alone. I dont want to discourage business, making a profit is what drives new "toys" and great new "things".. I dont want to be "protected"... except maybe from bombs and tanks... If you dont like the price of CD's you can buy something else, it's called "voting with dollars". If you really want a CD and will pay $20 for it.. then I guess the price isnt too high right?
I believe the community has a right to react, not the government. If it was brought to a public vote... sure.. but the government should just leave business alone. I dont want to discourage business, making a profit is what drives new "toys" and great new "things".. I dont want to be "protected"... except maybe from bombs and tanks... If you dont like the price of CD's you can buy something else, it's called "voting with dollars". If you really want a CD and will pay $20 for it.. then I guess the price isnt too high right?
A farmer sells me some of his fine fruit.. now I pull out my super-duper-replication device and zap up a truckload of Farmer Fred's Famous Fine Fruit only I now give it away for free... what do I care? I didnt grow it from scratch... I didnt break my back plowing the soil.. I didnt worry about pests and soil PH levels.. I just bought some of F.F.F.F.F. and now I give it away.. now what?
the record labels are getting what people will pay... NO ONE NEEDS MUSIC! If you dont like the price dont pay it and if enough people do that, the price goes down... aren't economics beautiful?
I steal all my music right now cause I am having too much fun spending my money on beer... um... and i think the record companies suck... but it is a "god given" right to ask what you want for your shit.. no one HAS to pay it...
With out (or even with) a digital signature no email should ever be admissable, for anything, ever. How can one prove I actually typed it? Its not like a voice tap where you can confirm a voice match... I think the real problem is checking email to find out who is being naughty and then using further methods to get substantial evidence.. and then they never even have to mention the email in court.
Ummm... yes... it did. My point was that OBVIOUSLY the law on the cable is more representitive of what people want than the law on wire... If the different standards are going to converge they MUST converge towards the law on cable.. if not better.
So you say I make no sense and yet you reiterate the same damn thing I was saying in a much less interesting way... good job... your the man!
Should the U.S. 'dumb down' these protections to be equivalent to
telecom, or should they beef up telecom's protections to be equal to the cable industry?
What kind of question is that?
Should the government take ALL your money or just half
Should you ask your parents before you buy a new TV?
Should I make sure it's ok with my dog before I got to the movies?
Should I pour hot grits down my pants?
Obviously the group that should violate privacy less than any other is the damn gobernment.... THEY WORK FOR US!!! I hate how you always have to remind people that...
Yeah.. I guess nasa missions are expendable compared to social security, welfare, international bailouts, congressional expense accounts, environmental protection, anti-smoking campaigns, anti-trust propaganda, elian gonzalus, carnivore, and secret deffense spending... who needs to discover anything about the universe? Not me! I'd rather rot right here on earth...
You are correct... foundation was the series... I think it's cool that the fact that earth even existed faded into legend and myth. But they do find it.. oh boy..:) I consider this to be the best set of books ever writen by Asimov.. the scope is breath taking.
I would have to say that if my employer was violating someone else's hard work in this manner I would be enraged.. I think you need to tell them to make this right with the author or you will testify against them in the lawsuit... Its hard to violate the loyalty of your employee/employer relationship... but I believe its worse to stand by and watch a fellow geek get screwed when you can do something about it.
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I try to do what I feel is "right".. I generally don't obey laws just because they exist.
Who is being abused? I am saying that if people buy it, the price isn't "too high". There are alternatives to buying CD's, those that find them viable alternatives use it. Those that don't, don't (and spend $100 on the next britney CD). It doesn't take any organizing. It's not a government matter, it's economic.
napster is a distribution device... the replicator is the PERFECT mp3 cloner.. all coppies are identicle to the first.
Well, If thats the way you feel I guess you answer the book thing fine.. you are saying that every sale will actually be the sale of an EULA? So if you buy a book, you just agree to not replicate it right? so now even with replicators on physical objects.. we are right back to napster and the music industry again.. there is NO difference between a real BMW and a replicated one down to the molecular level..... how do you enforce contracts and keep people buying the "real McCoy" as it were...
once production is instant and cheap.. the only thing of value is creativity.. but what is going to encourage people to share their creativity with the world if they will be no better off than anyone else, because we all get our free BMW's and Lear Jets... I would think the next big invention would be replication proof products after the replicater is made....
the government has to take action to protect them.
... WHY?! Why do stupid people get baby sitters that the rest of us have to play along with? It's not fair to those of us who can make a decision about whether or not to buy a damn CD. If someone is soooooooo dumb that they will buy a $100 Britney Spears CD.. then SO BE IT!
Arrrgggghh
I'm not saying we can replicate everything (although thats another interesting rant).. just Farmer Fred's Famous Fine Fruit... not even Pete's Pretty Peculiar Pickled Peppers... does it make a difference? what if you can suddenly make and distribute SUV's costlessly... and do so?
What if it's Fancy Fred's Fabuously Fine Fiction? It's cool for me to go around replicating books? What about cars? Farmer Fred spent a bunch of time on his fruit.. (obviously, cause its so damn famous)... he should go unrewarded and uncompensated?
I believe the community has a right to react, not the government. If it was brought to a public vote... sure.. but the government should just leave business alone. I dont want to discourage business, making a profit is what drives new "toys" and great new "things".. I dont want to be "protected"... except maybe from bombs and tanks... If you dont like the price of CD's you can buy something else, it's called "voting with dollars". If you really want a CD and will pay $20 for it.. then I guess the price isnt too high right?
I believe the community has a right to react, not the government. If it was brought to a public vote... sure.. but the government should just leave business alone. I dont want to discourage business, making a profit is what drives new "toys" and great new "things".. I dont want to be "protected"... except maybe from bombs and tanks... If you dont like the price of CD's you can buy something else, it's called "voting with dollars". If you really want a CD and will pay $20 for it.. then I guess the price isnt too high right?
A farmer sells me some of his fine fruit.. now I pull out my super-duper-replication device and zap up a truckload of Farmer Fred's Famous Fine Fruit only I now give it away for free... what do I care? I didnt grow it from scratch... I didnt break my back plowing the soil.. I didnt worry about pests and soil PH levels.. I just bought some of F.F.F.F.F. and now I give it away.. now what?
[just playing devils advocate...BTW]
the record labels are getting what people will pay... NO ONE NEEDS MUSIC! If you dont like the price dont pay it and if enough people do that, the price goes down... aren't economics beautiful?
I steal all my music right now cause I am having too much fun spending my money on beer... um... and i think the record companies suck... but it is a "god given" right to ask what you want for your shit.. no one HAS to pay it...
With out (or even with) a digital signature no email should ever be admissable, for anything, ever. How can one prove I actually typed it? Its not like a voice tap where you can confirm a voice match... I think the real problem is checking email to find out who is being naughty and then using further methods to get substantial evidence.. and then they never even have to mention the email in court.
Ummm... yes... it did. My point was that OBVIOUSLY the law on the cable is more representitive of what people want than the law on wire... If the different standards are going to converge they MUST converge towards the law on cable.. if not better.
So you say I make no sense and yet you reiterate the same damn thing I was saying in a much less interesting way... good job... your the man!
Should the U.S. 'dumb down' these protections to be equivalent to telecom, or should they beef up telecom's protections to be equal to the cable industry?
What kind of question is that?
Should the government take ALL your money or just half
Should you ask your parents before you buy a new TV?
Should I make sure it's ok with my dog before I got to the movies?
Should I pour hot grits down my pants?
Obviously the group that should violate privacy less than any other is the damn gobernment.... THEY WORK FOR US!!! I hate how you always have to remind people that...
What makes you think it would be more difficult? Its just another IDE or SCSI device right?
DOH! I can't believe I forgot about the Drug War!! I knew there was something else I hated that was missing from the list! :) thanks
If you can add more disk space I can't imagine it would be that much harder to add a CD-RW as well.. That would be pretty handy.
No cash for NASA?
What a god damn shame for us!
Lets rot here on earth.
Yeah.. I guess nasa missions are expendable compared to social security, welfare, international bailouts, congressional expense accounts, environmental protection, anti-smoking campaigns, anti-trust propaganda, elian gonzalus, carnivore, and secret deffense spending... who needs to discover anything about the universe? Not me! I'd rather rot right here on earth.. .
You are correct... foundation was the series... I think it's cool that the fact that earth even existed faded into legend and myth. But they do find it.. oh boy.. :) I consider this to be the best set of books ever writen by Asimov.. the scope is breath taking.
Huh?
How is the strong survive wrong? the gene pool changes as certain mutations give some creatures an edge...
Nothing you said makes sense... where is your verification?
Where did I say it was bad? desperate != bad...
WOW!! This wooden mirror is extra-special cool... I wonder what it makes for noise...
http://fargo.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/~dan ny/mirror.html here are some more pictures and some quick time movies.. since the site linked in the article is getting slashdotted...
I would have to say that if my employer was violating someone else's hard work in this manner I would be enraged.. I think you need to tell them to make this right with the author or you will testify against them in the lawsuit... Its hard to violate the loyalty of your employee/employer relationship... but I believe its worse to stand by and watch a fellow geek get screwed when you can do something about it.