I've not heard about QNX's bad points (apart from it being "Unix-like") - could you elaborate, I'd be interested to hear another side. I assume you have a lot of QNX experience and aren't just spouting off? --
Looks like they're admitting they've been pissing in the wind for nearly a year, while everyone gets out competing products (Dreamcast, PSX2, etc). It's a shame this comes so late... --
Be isn't going to make their OS free forever - no OEM is going to start shipping the OS for free if at any point in time that free offer could be pulled out from under them, just as they get a few orders in for it. It's a publicity stunt, and it looks great until you dig a little deaper. --
Much as RMS would like you believe otherwise, we've had free software a lot longer than we've had any "Foundation" for it. It would exist anyway, and would be just as strong, if not stronger, without the FSF and all the "everything must be GPL" crap. --
It seems to me to be a nasty nasty upgrade - tons of things broke, dependencies on other packages are just horrendous, the db.so.2 seems to be broke, StarOffice doesn't work (yes, I know it's StarDivision's fault). Downgrading didn't seem to put my system back in order.
What a nightmare. Next time it should come with a big warning: GLIBC 2.1 CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH.
It almost makes me wish Rawhide was still glibc 2.0 based - I was looking forward to Red Hat 6.0 - not any more... --
I guess the Americans never will get the British sense of humour (with an "o-u-r"). This goes along the same lines as Captain Pugwash (with "Seaman Staines" and "Master Baites") and the magic roundabout. These are subtle jokes, and even if it is about homosexuality, we don't care - it's only adults that care, and even then, only US adults apparently.
That's about all there is to say. Linux is far from being a perfect OS (I'm not saying BeOS is perfect either). Sure, everyone could work towards improving Linux, but why? Diversity is a good thing you know - or do you want to just turn the whole Windows situation on it's head and have Linux be the only OS in the world with no competition? Perhaps you do, but I assure you it would be a bad thing.
Linux still (and possibly always will) lacks in the usability arena. I know everyone says that's not true any more, but I assure you it is. Take for example I had to talk my brother in law through permanently mounting his Windows drives (from another machine) on his Linux box. Currently this goes like:
mkdir/mnt/othermachine/c mkdir/mnt/othermachine/d
add othermachine to/etc/hosts (fun in pico/vi/whatever). smbmount//othermachine/C/mnt/othermachine/c
Check that worked.
smbmount//othermachine/D/mnt/othermachine/d
Check that worked.
Add the above to/etc/rc.d/init.d/samba Add smbumount also to the above file.
This is just one example among many config options of problems with Unix style systems. See the "Unix haters handbook" for others.
And before you bite my head off - I love Linux. It's my only OS now. But that's because I can, not because it's easy. --
Really - this must affect a huge amount of people - and RH6 will be out soon enough, and SO won't run on it. I hope something can be done about this. I'd rather not lose all my accounts . --
I downloaded and installed a pre-2.1 release and everything worked fine except StarOffice (what a surprise - the only application I don't have the source code for is the one that breaks). This is fairly critical for me as all my accounts are in StarOffice, and I wouldn't want to lose it just yet. --
I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. HTML 4 is internationalised. The character encoding is specifiable by either the web server, the script that produces the code, or in a META tag. That means you can specify utf-8 or utf-16 or ISO-8859-2 or whatever. utf-8 and 16 contain those characters, so it wouldn't be a problem at all for HTML 4 compliant browsers. Both Netscape 4 and IE 4 support this. Of course, whether or not you have a full unicode font or not is another matter. --
Slashdot should patent something similar but pointing out the use of Anonymous postings. Slashdot is the first such web-based-news service to offer anonymous replies that I'm aware of.
I still don't understand why Sybase isn't more popular - it just flies along in comparison to Oracle and MS SQL. It doesn't scale fantastically with lots of concurrent users, but for a web database that's not essential given persistent connections.
I though Sybase had announced plans for an ASE port? I saw that on linuxworld.com. --
Hehe. Anyway, nice to see you (or whoever you are) on Slashdot. Sometimes it does get out of hand here. You have to remember that this is a completely different side of the fence here. Anyway, feel free to email me. --
HD space is really cheap now in comparison. Just copy the CD to the HD and serve it up from there. I guess this only doesn't apply when you're changing CD's all the time, but if you're talking about an office jukebox type system then I'd just do away with the CD's altogether. --
Interactive SQL query tools don't do anything until the command is sent (with a ; on Oracle, a "go" on many systems). So no locking occurs until the command is sent. You can't type "BEGIN TRANSACTION", send that command and continue - a SQL engine wouldn't allow that. It has to be atomic. --
Although this is mostly GUI automation, it also applies to any console mode application too. For example, there's no way to go _backwards_ in most console mode application automation on Linux, when you're controling through pipes.
I don't know too much about gnome-guile, it's not nearly as good as OLE automation, but I suppose it's a lot earlier on in it's lifetime. --
Application automation. Being able to completely control applications that have OLE interfaces from languages like perl is a godsend. That's something that even commercial unixes haven't properly touched on yet. Gnome is getting there, but isn't there yet, and it's a copy of Window's version (using COM like interfaces). --
They compare NT 5, an OS which isn't out yet, to RedHat 5.1, an OS which has been out for nearly a year. And Linux still comes out on top.
My question is, this is obviously a very old review, since the reviewer says "I got the latest Apache - v 1.3.1", so what happened? Did this review get oppressed (that's probably over-dramatic), or forgotten, or what? And now they feel they have to put it out since everyone else is doing Linux sections? Go Linux... --
Dear PC Week, We'd rather edit conf files, idiots!
on
PC Week Reviews 2.2
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· Score: 1
Hey - what's wrong with those Win32:: perl modules anyway:-)
What initially start out looking like a very nice article, turns into something awful. What I don't understand is comments like "... now on a par with NT 4.0 on similar hardware..." when we all saw the Smart Reseller article pointing out that linux _before_ 2.2 is faster than NT.
Then it goes on to say "the community developing Linux moves at a snail's pace". What? When? Where? Last thing I knew I was installing RedHat 5.1, and now I'm on the 2.2 kernel. When did any other OS vendor move that fast?
Finally, they end on "Linux is still in flux". Who writes this FUD? Linux is far far far from being "in flux". NT2000, now there's an OS that's in flux. Linux 2.1.x was in flux. 2.2 isn't by definition, barring bug fixes and minor improvements.
Disappointing, although as they say - all press is good press.
Slashdot Mirror
I've not heard about QNX's bad points (apart from it being "Unix-like") - could you elaborate, I'd be interested to hear another side. I assume you have a lot of QNX experience and aren't just spouting off?
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Looks like they're admitting they've been pissing in the wind for nearly a year, while everyone gets out competing products (Dreamcast, PSX2, etc). It's a shame this comes so late...
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Be isn't going to make their OS free forever - no OEM is going to start shipping the OS for free if at any point in time that free offer could be pulled out from under them, just as they get a few orders in for it. It's a publicity stunt, and it looks great until you dig a little deaper.
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is that they are proprietary. They can't ever hope to make any real money off that. Who in their right minds would use a WI image on thier web site.
Nuff said.
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Gives a 17.2 for a 450Mhz Pentium II (no figures for the Xeon yet).
8 q3/cpu95-980831-03026.asc
http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu95/results/res9
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Much as RMS would like you believe otherwise, we've had free software a lot longer than we've had any "Foundation" for it. It would exist anyway, and would be just as strong, if not stronger, without the FSF and all the "everything must be GPL" crap.
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with the problems with glibc2.1.
It seems to me to be a nasty nasty upgrade - tons of things broke, dependencies on other packages are just horrendous, the db.so.2 seems to be broke, StarOffice doesn't work (yes, I know it's StarDivision's fault). Downgrading didn't seem to put my system back in order.
What a nightmare. Next time it should come with a big warning: GLIBC 2.1 CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH.
It almost makes me wish Rawhide was still glibc 2.0 based - I was looking forward to Red Hat 6.0 - not any more...
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Hi Ben!!!
:-)
It's probably not new - but let's watch them be granted a patent on it anyway....
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I guess the Americans never will get the British sense of humour (with an "o-u-r"). This goes along the same lines as Captain Pugwash (with "Seaman Staines" and "Master Baites") and the magic roundabout. These are subtle jokes, and even if it is about homosexuality, we don't care - it's only adults that care, and even then, only US adults apparently.
Matt.
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That's about all there is to say. Linux is far from being a perfect OS (I'm not saying BeOS is perfect either). Sure, everyone could work towards improving Linux, but why? Diversity is a good thing you know - or do you want to just turn the whole Windows situation on it's head and have Linux be the only OS in the world with no competition? Perhaps you do, but I assure you it would be a bad thing.
/mnt/othermachine/c /mnt/othermachine/d
/etc/hosts (fun in pico/vi/whatever). //othermachine/C /mnt/othermachine/c
//othermachine/D /mnt/othermachine/d
/etc/rc.d/init.d/samba
Linux still (and possibly always will) lacks in the usability arena. I know everyone says that's not true any more, but I assure you it is. Take for example I had to talk my brother in law through permanently mounting his Windows drives (from another machine) on his Linux box. Currently this goes like:
mkdir
mkdir
add othermachine to
smbmount
Check that worked.
smbmount
Check that worked.
Add the above to
Add smbumount also to the above file.
This is just one example among many config options of problems with Unix style systems. See the "Unix haters handbook" for others.
And before you bite my head off - I love Linux. It's my only OS now. But that's because I can, not because it's easy.
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Really - this must affect a huge amount of people - and RH6 will be out soon enough, and SO won't run on it. I hope something can be done about this. I'd rather not lose all my accounts .
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I downloaded and installed a pre-2.1 release and everything worked fine except StarOffice (what a surprise - the only application I don't have the source code for is the one that breaks). This is fairly critical for me as all my accounts are in StarOffice, and I wouldn't want to lose it just yet.
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I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. HTML 4 is internationalised. The character encoding is specifiable by either the web server, the script that produces the code, or in a META tag. That means you can specify utf-8 or utf-16 or ISO-8859-2 or whatever. utf-8 and 16 contain those characters, so it wouldn't be a problem at all for HTML 4 compliant browsers. Both Netscape 4 and IE 4 support this. Of course, whether or not you have a full unicode font or not is another matter.
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Slashdot should patent something similar but pointing out the use of Anonymous postings. Slashdot is the first such web-based-news service to offer anonymous replies that I'm aware of.
;-)
Just an idea. Probably a bad one...
Matt.
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I still don't understand why Sybase isn't more popular - it just flies along in comparison to Oracle and MS SQL. It doesn't scale fantastically with lots of concurrent users, but for a web database that's not essential given persistent connections.
I though Sybase had announced plans for an ASE port? I saw that on linuxworld.com.
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echo 16383 > /proc/sys/kernel/file-max /proc/sys/kernel/inode-max
/proc/sys/fs/... if on a 2.2 kernel.
echo 32767 >
or
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That must be you?
Hehe. Anyway, nice to see you (or whoever you are) on Slashdot. Sometimes it does get out of hand here. You have to remember that this is a completely different side of the fence here. Anyway, feel free to email me.
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HD space is really cheap now in comparison. Just copy the CD to the HD and serve it up from there. I guess this only doesn't apply when you're changing CD's all the time, but if you're talking about an office jukebox type system then I'd just do away with the CD's altogether.
--
Interactive SQL query tools don't do anything until the command is sent (with a ; on Oracle, a "go" on many systems). So no locking occurs until the command is sent. You can't type "BEGIN TRANSACTION", send that command and continue - a SQL engine wouldn't allow that. It has to be atomic.
--
Although this is mostly GUI automation, it also applies to any console mode application too. For example, there's no way to go _backwards_ in most console mode application automation on Linux, when you're controling through pipes.
I don't know too much about gnome-guile, it's not nearly as good as OLE automation, but I suppose it's a lot earlier on in it's lifetime.
--
Application automation. Being able to completely control applications that have OLE interfaces from languages like perl is a godsend. That's something that even commercial unixes haven't properly touched on yet. Gnome is getting there, but isn't there yet, and it's a copy of Window's version (using COM like interfaces).
--
They compare NT 5, an OS which isn't out yet, to RedHat 5.1, an OS which has been out for nearly a year. And Linux still comes out on top.
My question is, this is obviously a very old review, since the reviewer says "I got the latest Apache - v 1.3.1", so what happened? Did this review get oppressed (that's probably over-dramatic), or forgotten, or what? And now they feel they have to put it out since everyone else is doing Linux sections? Go Linux...
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Hey - what's wrong with those Win32:: perl modules anyway :-)
Matt - Win32:: module author.
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What initially start out looking like a very nice article, turns into something awful. What I don't understand is comments like "... now on a par with NT 4.0 on similar hardware..." when we all saw the Smart Reseller article pointing out that linux _before_ 2.2 is faster than NT.
Then it goes on to say "the community developing Linux moves at a snail's pace". What? When? Where? Last thing I knew I was installing RedHat 5.1, and now I'm on the 2.2 kernel. When did any other OS vendor move that fast?
Finally, they end on "Linux is still in flux". Who writes this FUD? Linux is far far far from being "in flux". NT2000, now there's an OS that's in flux. Linux 2.1.x was in flux. 2.2 isn't by definition, barring bug fixes and minor improvements.
Disappointing, although as they say - all press is good press.
Matt.
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WebBench is freely available to download from www.zdbop.com. It contains static and dynamic content tests.
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