If... your e-mail doesn't work... how would you read the... um, said e-mail? I tell you, there's MAGIC at work!
But I give you that: it DOES make some sense, because if your web-based e-mail isn't working, maybe the back-end works; maybe you can read e-mails on your mobile device; maybe POP push works, or IMAP, or whatever.
First off, the poster above me mentioned OpenOffice. I'm using 3.3 which IIRC is the most recent OO version. About JRE: if ALL software I have works, EXCEPT Open Office, then sorry mate, it's not the software and it's not JRE. Especially when recording a macro works but not running it. It's retarded.
1. We were talking about Open Office, not Libre Office. 2. Stealing focus on start: click the Calc icon, alt-tab to another window and wait. "Windows does it too" is not an argument. We're comparing two spreadsheet products, let's stick to them. 3. Memory usage: I am not talking about what "could" happen, but what "does" happen. It's te difference between theory and practice. 4. I personally don't give a rat's ass on how big a file is. That's why I have about 8 TB of disk space on my personal PC and over 4 TB on my work laptop (including the attached external HDD). I care about how fast it's opening and how snappy it is. If calc can't open a file, it can be as small as 512 bytes. It's stil dead data. 5. Proof on CPU usage? Open Calc, let it load a large file, watch CPU core usage. Or set up some macro loop (add 1+1 a billion times) and watch CPU core usage. Excel uses 4 cores, Calc uses one. 6. Yes, charts can look bad in any software if you don't know what you're doing. I'm talking here about selecting some data and charting it, looking at out-of-the-box results. The difference is very obvious. 7. "But which JRE? Do you have the right one?" As an user I shouldn't care. I have Java apps which work flawlessly. I have JRE. The error itself is useless and counterintuitive. Again, we're talking about Open Office.
The best selling anything on Amazon was the product with the most buzz. Sometimes (many times) that product is not the best, not the brightest, not the cheapest.
Despite management's fondness for excel spreadsheets, those can just as easily be authored with Open Office.
I'm sorry, no, what you're saying is just stupid. As an Excel power user (well, a bit more than that) I have worked with both Calc and Excel, and Calc is way behind in all areas. Here's a small list of Calc 3.3 versus Excel 2007 issues:
- Slow to start; - Steals focus when starting; - Eats more RAM (75 MB post-start, empty, versus 25 MB post-start, empty, for Excel); - Is a lot slower when opening large spreadsheets. I have a 96 MB spreadsheet and Excel opens it in 32 seconds on my laptop. Calc took... forever, really. I mean it never managed to open it Got stuck at about 15% and remained there forever. Same file, same laptop. - VBA macros obviously don't work in Calc; - Many complex formulas don't work in Calc. Furthermore, some formulas mess up, resulting in wrong data for some files. VERY dangerous for a business. - Calc uses just one CPU core for... everything, really. Formula calculations, file opening, data manipulation, you name it. Excel uses all cores - Charts look awful in Calc no matter how much time you spend on them. - Macros: I just recorded a new macro in Calc, and after finishing recording, I saved it, then I wanted to run it. I got an error: "JRE is defective". It's ridiculous, JRE works perfectly on my machine.
And that's just scratching the surface. I shiver at the thought of having to do anything productive under Calc.
I beg to differ. I think you're restraining the term of "value" to "monetary value only". My dad's Bee Gees vinyl would be priceless (and irreplaceable) to me because it was his. No other Bee Gees vinyl I would buy would make it "was my dad's". Nobody would pay shit for my grandpa's wartime letters to my grandma, but I would be very, VERY sad if I lost them. They have a huge symbolic value to me, which can't be counted with hard cash.
Site license, that's it. Well when I left the company I asked them "can I keep these" and they said "yeah sure". Not that they were using them anyway...
Yes-yes. That doesn't mean you shouldn't check them out. Some of what others call worthless shit might have great value to others (not in terms of money).
Yes, I would like them. I actually like sifting through piles of recordings and find interesting stuff. Sadly, I am not living in the US. Guess that makes your proposal inaccessible to me:)
Maybe because it's shit music. I'm counting the number of famous bands from 40 years ago which still are famous versus the number of famous bands from 10-5 years ago which still are famous. The former number is much, much larger than the latter. The change started around the end of '90s-early 2000s when it became a lot easier to create "immediate" music with close to no skill; before, bands relied on their members' ability to play instruments well and come with imaginative lyrics. After that time threshold ('99-2001) the advance of electronic means to programatically generate music (loops, beats, etc) made it easy to pick a bambi in bikini or mini-skirt, have her yell some meaningless words in a microphone while some sound engineers made the voice sound pretty and others made it match the background generated song, rinse and repeat, publish, see money flowing in like crazy. That's why I'm stuck to 20th Century in terms of music. I was then mesmerized by the ability of singers to keep a note for 20+ seconds in a live concert, the amazing skills of drummers to bang their drums in a 15+ minutes solo, the incredible features of guitarists to shred notes with ease and all of them kept emotions flowing through me. Now all I see is 4-minute songs which yield ansolutely zero emotion. More tits, less music. Recently, I briefly enjoyed dubstep (it was something new) and then it became plain and repetitive. Every skillless wannabe jumped the bandwagon and squeezed out the same stuff with minor variations.
You sure? I own the '68 Polydor Bee Gees Golden Album and it's selling at 61.20 USD currently (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=560357). That's just one example I quickly searched for. There are vinyl records selling for 10K+ USD; some are acetate indeed but hey, feel free to browse your momma's collection and who knows, you might get rich.
My parents modeled my music preferences. And I thank them for that. By letting me listen to what they were listening, they managed to keep me away from all the garbage that was being played as mainstream at that time. Hello, Pink Floyd and Van der Graaf Generator; fuck you, Kriss Kross and NKOTB and that shit. I apologize to those who love(d) Kriss Kross and NKOTB. I still think it was shit. To even things out, they could say my preferred music is shit and I promise I won't care:)
The problem is that most corporations reduced UAT and bugtesting to... nothing, really. They just launch the product and then patch it endlessly, basically using their customer base as bug testers. I've seen bugs in end products that were ridiculously OBVIOUS, e.g. the program wouldn't install on ANY x64 Windows OS (XP, Vista, 7). That's the sad state most software products are in right now...
I was wondering about this myself. I would have it generate "fake" sample data, much like "previews" work for reporting enviromnents (Tableau and OBIEE for example). A wee bit difficult to implement that for networking, but user input can be easily interpreted (the GUI allows you to set some defaults) and regular data input can be set up through data templates (use this table, use that CSV, etc).
I used VBA in Excel to put together a small application (basically, some reporting automation with a GUI) for a small company and sold it, with the source code, for $750. Took me about 20 hours of work. Didn't cost me a dime (the Office license was paid for by my employer). Point is: if you can code (not even professionally) and have some sales skills (not even professionally) you can make a pretty good buck off those $500 Visual Studio Pro costs. Furthermore, there's a pretty large amount of companies who have that, how is it called? Some sort of contract with MS where they pay a monthly fee of 200 USD or something and they get CDs and DVDs with all Microsoft products for free. Or something like that. That's how I got a whole box of licensed MS products (including Visual Studio 2005) from my former employer.
I certainly hope you don't work in IT. Whether it's one or 100 positions, chances are you'll get pretty much the same number of applications. Bluntly put: Your argument reeks of stupidity.
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If... your e-mail doesn't work... how would you read the... um, said e-mail?
I tell you, there's MAGIC at work!
But I give you that: it DOES make some sense, because if your web-based e-mail isn't working, maybe the back-end works; maybe you can read e-mails on your mobile device; maybe POP push works, or IMAP, or whatever.
First off, the poster above me mentioned OpenOffice. I'm using 3.3 which IIRC is the most recent OO version.
About JRE: if ALL software I have works, EXCEPT Open Office, then sorry mate, it's not the software and it's not JRE. Especially when recording a macro works but not running it. It's retarded.
1. We were talking about Open Office, not Libre Office.
2. Stealing focus on start: click the Calc icon, alt-tab to another window and wait. "Windows does it too" is not an argument. We're comparing two spreadsheet products, let's stick to them.
3. Memory usage: I am not talking about what "could" happen, but what "does" happen. It's te difference between theory and practice.
4. I personally don't give a rat's ass on how big a file is. That's why I have about 8 TB of disk space on my personal PC and over 4 TB on my work laptop (including the attached external HDD). I care about how fast it's opening and how snappy it is. If calc can't open a file, it can be as small as 512 bytes. It's stil dead data.
5. Proof on CPU usage? Open Calc, let it load a large file, watch CPU core usage. Or set up some macro loop (add 1+1 a billion times) and watch CPU core usage. Excel uses 4 cores, Calc uses one.
6. Yes, charts can look bad in any software if you don't know what you're doing. I'm talking here about selecting some data and charting it, looking at out-of-the-box results. The difference is very obvious.
7. "But which JRE? Do you have the right one?" As an user I shouldn't care. I have Java apps which work flawlessly. I have JRE. The error itself is useless and counterintuitive. Again, we're talking about Open Office.
For me it was when Windows 7 popped up.
The best selling anything on Amazon was the product with the most buzz. Sometimes (many times) that product is not the best, not the brightest, not the cheapest.
...because it's perfectly normal to go back to '99 image editing functionality just because tablets rulez and PCs suxxorz.
Despite management's fondness for excel spreadsheets, those can just as easily be authored with Open Office.
I'm sorry, no, what you're saying is just stupid.
As an Excel power user (well, a bit more than that) I have worked with both Calc and Excel, and Calc is way behind in all areas. Here's a small list of Calc 3.3 versus Excel 2007 issues:
- Slow to start;
- Steals focus when starting;
- Eats more RAM (75 MB post-start, empty, versus 25 MB post-start, empty, for Excel);
- Is a lot slower when opening large spreadsheets. I have a 96 MB spreadsheet and Excel opens it in 32 seconds on my laptop. Calc took... forever, really. I mean it never managed to open it Got stuck at about 15% and remained there forever. Same file, same laptop.
- VBA macros obviously don't work in Calc;
- Many complex formulas don't work in Calc. Furthermore, some formulas mess up, resulting in wrong data for some files. VERY dangerous for a business.
- Calc uses just one CPU core for... everything, really. Formula calculations, file opening, data manipulation, you name it. Excel uses all cores
- Charts look awful in Calc no matter how much time you spend on them.
- Macros: I just recorded a new macro in Calc, and after finishing recording, I saved it, then I wanted to run it. I got an error: "JRE is defective". It's ridiculous, JRE works perfectly on my machine.
And that's just scratching the surface. I shiver at the thought of having to do anything productive under Calc.
one of the explosions was set off behind a large widow
How do you know she was a widow?
It's stuff that matters to me and I'm in Romania. it's important because it is likely to affect much more than a few Bostonians (Bostonese?).
I beg to differ. I think you're restraining the term of "value" to "monetary value only". My dad's Bee Gees vinyl would be priceless (and irreplaceable) to me because it was his. No other Bee Gees vinyl I would buy would make it "was my dad's".
Nobody would pay shit for my grandpa's wartime letters to my grandma, but I would be very, VERY sad if I lost them. They have a huge symbolic value to me, which can't be counted with hard cash.
Site license, that's it. Well when I left the company I asked them "can I keep these" and they said "yeah sure". Not that they were using them anyway...
Yes-yes. That doesn't mean you shouldn't check them out. Some of what others call worthless shit might have great value to others (not in terms of money).
Yes, I would like them. I actually like sifting through piles of recordings and find interesting stuff. :)
Sadly, I am not living in the US. Guess that makes your proposal inaccessible to me
Maybe because it's shit music.
I'm counting the number of famous bands from 40 years ago which still are famous versus the number of famous bands from 10-5 years ago which still are famous. The former number is much, much larger than the latter.
The change started around the end of '90s-early 2000s when it became a lot easier to create "immediate" music with close to no skill; before, bands relied on their members' ability to play instruments well and come with imaginative lyrics. After that time threshold ('99-2001) the advance of electronic means to programatically generate music (loops, beats, etc) made it easy to pick a bambi in bikini or mini-skirt, have her yell some meaningless words in a microphone while some sound engineers made the voice sound pretty and others made it match the background generated song, rinse and repeat, publish, see money flowing in like crazy.
That's why I'm stuck to 20th Century in terms of music. I was then mesmerized by the ability of singers to keep a note for 20+ seconds in a live concert, the amazing skills of drummers to bang their drums in a 15+ minutes solo, the incredible features of guitarists to shred notes with ease and all of them kept emotions flowing through me. Now all I see is 4-minute songs which yield ansolutely zero emotion. More tits, less music.
Recently, I briefly enjoyed dubstep (it was something new) and then it became plain and repetitive. Every skillless wannabe jumped the bandwagon and squeezed out the same stuff with minor variations.
Yes, because deleting all your porn AFTER you die is mighty easy.
The KeepAss Database would be happy to send it all to you in physical format through their newest HaulAss transport branch.
You sure? I own the '68 Polydor Bee Gees Golden Album and it's selling at 61.20 USD currently (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=560357). That's just one example I quickly searched for. There are vinyl records selling for 10K+ USD; some are acetate indeed but hey, feel free to browse your momma's collection and who knows, you might get rich.
My parents modeled my music preferences. And I thank them for that. By letting me listen to what they were listening, they managed to keep me away from all the garbage that was being played as mainstream at that time. Hello, Pink Floyd and Van der Graaf Generator; fuck you, Kriss Kross and NKOTB and that shit. :)
I apologize to those who love(d) Kriss Kross and NKOTB. I still think it was shit. To even things out, they could say my preferred music is shit and I promise I won't care
The problem is that most corporations reduced UAT and bugtesting to... nothing, really. They just launch the product and then patch it endlessly, basically using their customer base as bug testers.
I've seen bugs in end products that were ridiculously OBVIOUS, e.g. the program wouldn't install on ANY x64 Windows OS (XP, Vista, 7). That's the sad state most software products are in right now...
I was wondering about this myself. I would have it generate "fake" sample data, much like "previews" work for reporting enviromnents (Tableau and OBIEE for example). A wee bit difficult to implement that for networking, but user input can be easily interpreted (the GUI allows you to set some defaults) and regular data input can be set up through data templates (use this table, use that CSV, etc).
I used VBA in Excel to put together a small application (basically, some reporting automation with a GUI) for a small company and sold it, with the source code, for $750. Took me about 20 hours of work. Didn't cost me a dime (the Office license was paid for by my employer). Point is: if you can code (not even professionally) and have some sales skills (not even professionally) you can make a pretty good buck off those $500 Visual Studio Pro costs.
Furthermore, there's a pretty large amount of companies who have that, how is it called? Some sort of contract with MS where they pay a monthly fee of 200 USD or something and they get CDs and DVDs with all Microsoft products for free. Or something like that. That's how I got a whole box of licensed MS products (including Visual Studio 2005) from my former employer.
I certainly hope you don't work in IT.
Whether it's one or 100 positions, chances are you'll get pretty much the same number of applications. Bluntly put: Your argument reeks of stupidity.
This. :)
I'll teach THAT to my son
Yeah. But get enough boards and you become successful in the coffin business.
In your case, it'd not be the browser choice disqualifying you, it'd be the spelling and writing rules knowledge, or its lack thereof.