Re:If you knew what was really going on...
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A History of Wiretapping
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I'm not getting this from the media. I'm getting it from real life - my life.
This stuff is happening here in America, and it has historical precedent in East Germany's Stasi, who used police informants and citizen's watch groups for Gang Stalking, as well as covert microwaves for torturing and killing targets. In addition, similar tactics were used and exposed in America decades ago - read up on COINTELPRO. Wikipedia has an executive summary in its COINTELPRO page in the "methods" section.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to pull this stuff off. The tactics come from a big book that most targeted individuals that I've communicated with are highly familiar with. Many policemen are also being manipulated, unwittingly, in this program. Again, read up on COINTELPRO, the tactic I mentioned in passing is only one of many the FBI used in that decades old program, and they've gotten more advanced in their tactics since then.
But this is off-topic for this article, anyway, since the topic is warrantless wiretapping, not Stasi-like Gang Stalking. However, there is a new high tech component to the Gang Stalking that didn't exist in East Germany, it's the stuff I was saying above that Slashdotters wouldn't be able to comprehend. It's something I can't talk about yet in the presence of non-targeted individuals (*especially* young techies who think they know everything), but it's going to come out a lot sooner than these guys think.
Re:If you knew what was really going on...
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A History of Wiretapping
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The neighborhood watch meetings don't operate that way. What will happen is someone trusted, an authority figure like a policeman or a fireman, maybe several such people, will show up and say something like: "This person is dangerous, we haven't caught him yet, we don't have the manpower to track him, so we want you to follow him everywhere. Let him know he's being followed." That last sentence falls under the category of conspicuous surveillance which is a deliberately engineered intimidation tactic.
The authority figure(s) may present convincing evidence, which is often fabricated or exaggerated. In addition, what the neighborhood watch members don't know is that the target is being covertly harassed by police informants, in an attempt to get him to act out, or to confirm what the police are saying. For example, if the police accuse the target of being a sex offender who hasn't gotten caught yet, female police informants will show up everywhere in the target's path dressed wildly inappropriately to get the target to look. The neighborhood watch member observing this will conclude there's something to the accusations.
It takes a lot of effort to build up the momentum for Gang Stalking of a single individual, a lot of setups like the one I just described. But it's possible because practically everyone involved (neighborhood watch members, police informants) have been tricked or manipulated into working for free. The neighborhood watch members are volunteers. The police informants have to do whatever their case officers tell them to, for free, or go to prison.
There's much more to the ground forces than this, but it's way off-topic for this story, so I'll save it for later.
As for the high tech component of the persecution and torture campaign, it's interesting that you mention tinfoil hats. That is the kind of comment I was warned about before deciding to post here. Just FYI, I'm quite sophisticated enough to know that tinfoil hats do very little to protect against the kinds of things targeted individuals are concerned about. People who have been targeted in the US are a cross-section of America, and unfortunately the majority of Americans are scientifically illiterate. However, don't make the mistake of placing me in that category.
This program is going to come out much sooner than Russ Tice would like, and it's going to be big, but it's probably not going to happen as a result of what I post today. There are people working behind the scenes to expose this; unfortunately you're not going to find accurate information about what's being done on the web. A lot of people who speak up about this are, as I've said, scientifically uninformed, and thus they post nonsense. I'm doing my part by trying to reduce the amount of nonsense out there.
I'm not concerned about posting anonymously. I've already been targeted. What are they going to do... double-target me? My concern is about stepping into the public eye before the time is right.
A lot of the time, peer to peer encryption is like using an armored car to transfer stuff between two homeless bums.
How secure is your call if the other guy is on speakerphone?
How secure is your call if a satellite is using advanced signal processing techniques to pick up the sounds you hear from your headphones? You might say, "Well, nobody would bother to do that," but what do you really know about the capabilities of satellite surveillance platforms? Just how easy is it, in the year 2009, to zero in on whatever phone headset you happen to be using? You might be surprised when the answers are eventually revealed... though you might have to wait a while, until everyone involved in these covert spying operations is retired or dead.
You'd realize the "controversy" over the NSA's gathering of Americans' telephone call information is a tempest in a teapot.
What's really going on, this program of which Russell Tice of the NSA said, "there's no way the programs I want to talk to Congress about should be public ever, unless maybe in 200 years they want to declassify them. You should never learn about it; no one at the Times should ever learn about these things..." makes their warrantless wiretapping of journalists look like innocent fun.
I have personal experience with what's really going on, but I can't talk about it, especially on this site full of technically sophisticated users, because guys like you are arrogantly certain you know everything, and the stuff I know about falls outside your area of expertise.
The corporations have won. The politicians are all in their pockets, and neighborhood watches and police informants are tricked into Gang Stalking any potential opposition at the street level, with the help of this 'program' Russ Tice refers to. It's an invisible holocaust which you won't believe in until you get sucked into it.
All this security is for show.
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A Tour of Taser HQ
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The police informant networks have thoroughly penetrated Taser, Inc. (and most other large and mid-sized companies). Police informants take their first orders from the State, and do whatever their case officers ask them to, because if they don't they go to prison. Police informants are a lot more prevalent in the tech industry than you might think, because it is so easy to scare techies into turning informant ("become an informant or we send you to jail on this bullshit drug charge").
So, whenever the police, or someone with connections to the police, wants something from a company like Taser Inc., like the passcodes for an unactivated Taser, or an untraceable Taser, they just ask for it from an informant on the inside and get it, totally unaccountably.
Storing everything in a (not really) anonymous online "cloud" makes it easier for the authorities to wipe out data their corporate masters don't like.
Also, it's another way to extort money from users.
Let me give an example. A woman is gang-raped and a sock is stuffed in her mouth during the act so she can't cry out for help. Afterwards, her rapists follow her everywhere she goes and leave socks in her path, as a way of saying, "Don't tell anyone." Socks become associated with the woman's trauma in her mind, as a form of psychological conditioning. The sight of a sock causes her to relive the experience.
I don't expect society to pass laws against socks, but I would like to see some recognition here that sometimes, a symbol is more than just a symbol. Is there anyone here on Slashdot who's suffered more hardship than being unable to log into World of Warcraft?
To further confuse the issue, this kind of psychological warfare is used in organized stalking aka "gang stalking", in a form of state sanctioned terror. Governments like to pretend that gang stalking doesn't exist, so I expect the issues surrounding "hate crimes" to be muddled, possibly deliberately, for a long time.
Awareness of psychological warfare techniques will have to come from below, i.e. leaderless resistance. Waiting for the authorities to tell you what to think is so very not-Slashdot... but I see lots of group think and mental flocking around clever debaters. I expect flocking from birds, but I'd hope for more from human beings. You can't figure out everything sitting in front of your keyboard, you need some real experience to understand certain phenomena.
I wonder if there's anyone here who can genuinely understand what I'm saying.
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I'm not getting this from the media. I'm getting it from real life - my life.
This stuff is happening here in America, and it has historical precedent in East Germany's Stasi, who used police informants and citizen's watch groups for Gang Stalking, as well as covert microwaves for torturing and killing targets. In addition, similar tactics were used and exposed in America decades ago - read up on COINTELPRO. Wikipedia has an executive summary in its COINTELPRO page in the "methods" section.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to pull this stuff off. The tactics come from a big book that most targeted individuals that I've communicated with are highly familiar with. Many policemen are also being manipulated, unwittingly, in this program. Again, read up on COINTELPRO, the tactic I mentioned in passing is only one of many the FBI used in that decades old program, and they've gotten more advanced in their tactics since then.
But this is off-topic for this article, anyway, since the topic is warrantless wiretapping, not Stasi-like Gang Stalking. However, there is a new high tech component to the Gang Stalking that didn't exist in East Germany, it's the stuff I was saying above that Slashdotters wouldn't be able to comprehend. It's something I can't talk about yet in the presence of non-targeted individuals (*especially* young techies who think they know everything), but it's going to come out a lot sooner than these guys think.
The neighborhood watch meetings don't operate that way. What will happen is someone trusted, an authority figure like a policeman or a fireman, maybe several such people, will show up and say something like: "This person is dangerous, we haven't caught him yet, we don't have the manpower to track him, so we want you to follow him everywhere. Let him know he's being followed." That last sentence falls under the category of conspicuous surveillance which is a deliberately engineered intimidation tactic.
The authority figure(s) may present convincing evidence, which is often fabricated or exaggerated. In addition, what the neighborhood watch members don't know is that the target is being covertly harassed by police informants, in an attempt to get him to act out, or to confirm what the police are saying. For example, if the police accuse the target of being a sex offender who hasn't gotten caught yet, female police informants will show up everywhere in the target's path dressed wildly inappropriately to get the target to look. The neighborhood watch member observing this will conclude there's something to the accusations.
It takes a lot of effort to build up the momentum for Gang Stalking of a single individual, a lot of setups like the one I just described. But it's possible because practically everyone involved (neighborhood watch members, police informants) have been tricked or manipulated into working for free. The neighborhood watch members are volunteers. The police informants have to do whatever their case officers tell them to, for free, or go to prison.
There's much more to the ground forces than this, but it's way off-topic for this story, so I'll save it for later.
As for the high tech component of the persecution and torture campaign, it's interesting that you mention tinfoil hats. That is the kind of comment I was warned about before deciding to post here. Just FYI, I'm quite sophisticated enough to know that tinfoil hats do very little to protect against the kinds of things targeted individuals are concerned about. People who have been targeted in the US are a cross-section of America, and unfortunately the majority of Americans are scientifically illiterate. However, don't make the mistake of placing me in that category.
This program is going to come out much sooner than Russ Tice would like, and it's going to be big, but it's probably not going to happen as a result of what I post today. There are people working behind the scenes to expose this; unfortunately you're not going to find accurate information about what's being done on the web. A lot of people who speak up about this are, as I've said, scientifically uninformed, and thus they post nonsense. I'm doing my part by trying to reduce the amount of nonsense out there.
I'm not concerned about posting anonymously. I've already been targeted. What are they going to do... double-target me? My concern is about stepping into the public eye before the time is right.
A lot of the time, peer to peer encryption is like using an armored car to transfer stuff between two homeless bums.
How secure is your call if the other guy is on speakerphone?
How secure is your call if a satellite is using advanced signal processing techniques to pick up the sounds you hear from your headphones? You might say, "Well, nobody would bother to do that," but what do you really know about the capabilities of satellite surveillance platforms? Just how easy is it, in the year 2009, to zero in on whatever phone headset you happen to be using? You might be surprised when the answers are eventually revealed... though you might have to wait a while, until everyone involved in these covert spying operations is retired or dead.
You'd realize the "controversy" over the NSA's gathering of Americans' telephone call information is a tempest in a teapot.
What's really going on, this program of which Russell Tice of the NSA said, "there's no way the programs I want to talk to Congress about should be public ever, unless maybe in 200 years they want to declassify them. You should never learn about it; no one at the Times should ever learn about these things..." makes their warrantless wiretapping of journalists look like innocent fun.
I have personal experience with what's really going on, but I can't talk about it, especially on this site full of technically sophisticated users, because guys like you are arrogantly certain you know everything, and the stuff I know about falls outside your area of expertise.
The corporations have won. The politicians are all in their pockets, and neighborhood watches and police informants are tricked into Gang Stalking any potential opposition at the street level, with the help of this 'program' Russ Tice refers to. It's an invisible holocaust which you won't believe in until you get sucked into it.
The police informant networks have thoroughly penetrated Taser, Inc. (and most other large and mid-sized companies). Police informants take their first orders from the State, and do whatever their case officers ask them to, because if they don't they go to prison. Police informants are a lot more prevalent in the tech industry than you might think, because it is so easy to scare techies into turning informant ("become an informant or we send you to jail on this bullshit drug charge"). So, whenever the police, or someone with connections to the police, wants something from a company like Taser Inc., like the passcodes for an unactivated Taser, or an untraceable Taser, they just ask for it from an informant on the inside and get it, totally unaccountably.
Storing everything in a (not really) anonymous online "cloud" makes it easier for the authorities to wipe out data their corporate masters don't like. Also, it's another way to extort money from users.
Let me give an example. A woman is gang-raped and a sock is stuffed in her mouth during the act so she can't cry out for help. Afterwards, her rapists follow her everywhere she goes and leave socks in her path, as a way of saying, "Don't tell anyone." Socks become associated with the woman's trauma in her mind, as a form of psychological conditioning. The sight of a sock causes her to relive the experience.
I don't expect society to pass laws against socks, but I would like to see some recognition here that sometimes, a symbol is more than just a symbol. Is there anyone here on Slashdot who's suffered more hardship than being unable to log into World of Warcraft?
To further confuse the issue, this kind of psychological warfare is used in organized stalking aka "gang stalking", in a form of state sanctioned terror. Governments like to pretend that gang stalking doesn't exist, so I expect the issues surrounding "hate crimes" to be muddled, possibly deliberately, for a long time.
Awareness of psychological warfare techniques will have to come from below, i.e. leaderless resistance. Waiting for the authorities to tell you what to think is so very not-Slashdot... but I see lots of group think and mental flocking around clever debaters. I expect flocking from birds, but I'd hope for more from human beings. You can't figure out everything sitting in front of your keyboard, you need some real experience to understand certain phenomena.
I wonder if there's anyone here who can genuinely understand what I'm saying.