I keep wondering if all you people are closet homosexuals. I mean no "gay propaganda" in the world can make me gay and I never had any such feelings in my childhood either. The only reason I can see you being so against "it" must be that you aren't comfortable in your chosen sexual preference.
Heh, hmosexuals shouldn't be mistreated or discriminated, but you fear kids will fall for their "gay propaganda" and therefore might "burn in hell".
Oh, btw, if you fear procreation is threatened rest assure that I will save the world if it comes to that. I am sure I am not the only one that knows one will always be heterosexual - propaganda or not.
PS. "standard for a way of life"? Need of authorities to tell you how to live your life? DS.
Don't blame Linus for this. If the ISDN people want it included in the kernel they better submit patches way earlier. The same happened to knfsd and now people are taking responsibility and knfsd has an official maintainer. Just needed a kick in the behind from Linus, I guess.
Or rather that a mixed working environment reduces the "huh huh babes" attitude which is kinda easy to fall into in an all male environment.
At least I find it easier to work in a mixed environment. The all male one I got enough of in the service and sure it was fun at that age (18), but earning my living in it? No thanks.
Is this the land of the free where the dream is to work hard and become a self made man?
1. A country where higher education sucks royally. profs suck, tutors suck, and 'programming' classes suck in especially.
2. CS majors don't know shit and therefore the really good people are self trained and management suck for not realizing this.
3. Because everything suck so much we need to have govt hold our hands and protect us against those evil foreigners that will work for peanuts (i.e. we won't get rich quick if we have competition). We all know foreigners don't need as much food as the rest of us and therefore can take minimum wage happily (oh, and of course moving to a new country with a different culture is only an advantage for those bastards).
Now, lets all take our pity wages and go to Taco Bell for lunch. "Hi, Jose, how are the kids? No signs of immigration fascists, eh?! Heh heh." "Yeah, that Jose guy is a true trooper moving to a new country getting below minimum wage (he is an illegal immigrant after all) and still manages to support his family in Mexico. Not like the wellfare moms here in the USA that won't get off their lazy asses and get jobs. We are the only ones moving this country forward even though we meet fierce competition we pull through thanks to hard work."
..and the story continues..
I welcome any of you to come to work here in Sweden for ~$27,000 that the likes of Ericsson and ABB give a MSc&E fresh out of college. That's before govt take all your money through taxes, btw.
I find it appalling that you who sometimes show up as fighters for freedom of speech, software quality, end-MS'-reign-we-want-competiton, and etc, want to work in a sandbox free from competition from the rest of the world. You should be very happy that the top talent in the world still want to work in your country, generating jobs for the rest of you, despite being viewed as ones who take job away from good 'ole Americans.
If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Btw, I find my teachers/tutors/profs to be good at what they are doing. Are they perfect? No, and I don't expect them to be. When I get my Master in CS and Engineering I know I won't know everything, but it is a sign that I have the qualifications needed to acquire the knowledge necessary to solve a problem. Or I maybe I get help from someone else (mathematician, physicist, etc), but in the end I will do the part I do best - implementation.
Beware, I will take the job away from YOU. You will be working at Taco Bell competing with the Joses getting a lower and lower wage. Then you will realize that competition is everywhere and that you will somehow get a safe haven in IT/CS is ridiculous.
According to WinNT Magazine (http://www.winntmag.com/magazine/article.cfm?Arti cleID=3617):
"NT 5.0 includes an updated version of NetMeeting, a conference tool similar to ICQ and Powwow that lets you communicate with other users over the Internet. NetMeeting includes features from voice and video conferencing to whiteboard diagramming. These features may sound fairly standard, but NetMeeting lets users handle collaborative work across platforms. You've probably worked with shared applications between Windows machines. Working with someone else's copy of Word or Excel via a remote control program from your NT machine isn't terribly impressive. But what if you could work with a program running on a Linux or Solaris computer? Because NetMeeting is also available for UNIX platforms, users on non-Windows platforms can remotely control Windows applications as if they were running those applications natively. That's impressive thin-client technology."
So maybe..
Addtionally the Dec 1998 issue's "NT News Analysis" by Craig Barth:
"However developing for Linux takes on a whole new meaning as independent software vendors (ISVs) contemplate releasing to the masses what is essentially their core asset - the intellectual property that the original source code they've written represents. According to intellectual property lawyers, the Linux licensing agreement binds any developers who produce software using components of the Linux OS (e.g. libraries, runtimes) to release source code for their additions (i.e. applications) in the public domain. This limitation, more than any other issue, will stop mainstream commercial Linux development dead in its tracks. Evaluating strategies involving Linux-based solutions, IS planners need to consider that commitments made today may vanish tomorrow. As a result, customers who invest in Linus may end up without crucial applications."
This is FUD at its best. Mix some half truths and then lie about what they really mean. Maybe someone with thourough knowledge of GPL and Linux can reply to their Readers section and point out what they got wrong.
They compare NT/VMS/UNIX in this issue too. Linux is discussed too, but I think he is talking about 2.0.x based on his complaints about SMP support.
I think Dec 1998 will be accessible on the WWW in March.
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At least as a cow one would be loved by the GNOME developers AND sacred :).
/mill
I keep wondering if all you people are closet homosexuals. I mean no "gay propaganda" in the world can make me gay and I never had any such feelings in my childhood either. The only reason I can see you being so against "it" must be that you aren't comfortable in your chosen sexual preference.
/mill
Heh, hmosexuals shouldn't be mistreated or discriminated, but you fear kids will fall for their "gay propaganda" and therefore might "burn in hell".
Oh, btw, if you fear procreation is threatened rest assure that I will save the world if it comes to that. I am sure I am not the only one that knows one will always be heterosexual - propaganda or not.
PS. "standard for a way of life"? Need of authorities to tell you how to live your life? DS.
"4. If you wish to use an IRC client, connect to server chat.msnbc.com and join room #msnbc."
/mill
Why are you throwing away all that money on "buggy, bloated apps"? Are you a moron?
/mill
You are a criminal and should be put behind bars.
I do. I am gonna whack you with the clue stick now. *whack*
/mill
Don't blame Linus for this. If the ISDN people want it included in the kernel they better submit patches way earlier. The same happened to knfsd and now people are taking responsibility and knfsd has an official maintainer. Just needed a kick in the behind from Linus, I guess.
/mill
Or rather that a mixed working environment reduces the "huh huh babes" attitude which is kinda easy to fall into in an all male environment.
/mill
At least I find it easier to work in a mixed environment. The all male one I got enough of in the service and sure it was fun at that age (18), but earning my living in it? No thanks.
Is this the land of the free where the dream is to work hard and become a self made man?
/mill
1. A country where higher education sucks royally. profs suck, tutors suck, and 'programming' classes suck in especially.
2. CS majors don't know shit and therefore the really good people are self trained and management suck for not realizing this.
3. Because everything suck so much we need to have govt hold our hands and protect us against those evil foreigners that will work for peanuts (i.e. we won't get rich quick if we have competition). We all know foreigners don't need as much food as the rest of us and therefore can take minimum wage happily (oh, and of course moving to a new country with a different culture is only an advantage for those bastards).
Now, lets all take our pity wages and go to Taco Bell for lunch. "Hi, Jose, how are the kids? No signs of immigration fascists, eh?! Heh heh." "Yeah, that Jose guy is a true trooper moving to a new country getting below minimum wage (he is an illegal immigrant after all) and still manages to support his family in Mexico. Not like the wellfare moms here in the USA that won't get off their lazy asses and get jobs. We are the only ones moving this country forward even though we meet fierce competition we pull through thanks to hard work."
..and the story continues..
I welcome any of you to come to work here in Sweden for ~$27,000 that the likes of Ericsson and ABB give a MSc&E fresh out of college. That's before govt take all your money through taxes, btw.
I find it appalling that you who sometimes show up as fighters for freedom of speech, software quality, end-MS'-reign-we-want-competiton, and etc, want to work in a sandbox free from competition from the rest of the world. You should be very happy that the top talent in the world still want to work in your country, generating jobs for the rest of you, despite being viewed as ones who take job away from good 'ole Americans.
If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Btw, I find my teachers/tutors/profs to be good at what they are doing. Are they perfect? No, and I don't expect them to be. When I get my Master in CS and Engineering I know I won't know everything, but it is a sign that I have the qualifications needed to acquire the knowledge necessary to solve a problem. Or I maybe I get help from someone else (mathematician, physicist, etc), but in the end I will do the part I do best - implementation.
Beware, I will take the job away from YOU. You will be working at Taco Bell competing with the Joses getting a lower and lower wage. Then you will realize that competition is everywhere and that you will somehow get a safe haven in IT/CS is ridiculous.
According to WinNT Magazine (http://www.winntmag.com/magazine/article.cfm?Arti cleID=3617):
/mill
/mill
"NT 5.0 includes an updated version of NetMeeting, a conference tool similar to ICQ and Powwow that lets you communicate with other users over the Internet. NetMeeting includes features from voice and video conferencing to whiteboard diagramming. These features may sound fairly standard, but NetMeeting lets users handle collaborative work across platforms. You've probably worked with shared applications between Windows machines. Working with someone else's copy of Word or Excel via a remote control program from your NT machine isn't terribly impressive. But what if you could work with a program running on a Linux or Solaris computer? Because NetMeeting is also available for UNIX platforms, users on non-Windows platforms can remotely control Windows applications as if they were running those applications natively. That's impressive thin-client technology."
So maybe..
Addtionally the Dec 1998 issue's "NT News Analysis" by Craig Barth:
"However developing for Linux takes on a whole new meaning as independent software vendors (ISVs) contemplate releasing to the masses what is essentially their core asset - the intellectual property that the original source code they've written represents. According to intellectual property lawyers, the Linux licensing agreement binds any developers who produce software using components of the Linux OS (e.g. libraries, runtimes) to release source code for their additions (i.e. applications) in the public domain. This limitation, more than any other issue, will stop mainstream commercial Linux development dead in its tracks. Evaluating strategies involving Linux-based solutions, IS planners need to consider that commitments made today may vanish tomorrow. As a result, customers who invest in Linus may end up without crucial applications."
This is FUD at its best. Mix some half truths and then lie about what they really mean. Maybe someone with thourough knowledge of GPL and Linux can reply to their Readers section and point out what they got wrong.
They compare NT/VMS/UNIX in this issue too. Linux is discussed too, but I think he is talking about 2.0.x based on his complaints about SMP support.
I think Dec 1998 will be accessible on the WWW in March.