The point was made we SHOULD learn from the Israels. Are you saying they are over reacting? Seems to me they are fighting the same extremists that the United States is.
I have yet to read a post where the ANY slash doter has made a positive statement about ANY agency of the US government. They ridicule when the government makes mistakes and they ignore when the government does something right. They refuse to acknowledge ANY advancements this nation has made against the extremists. I can't remember one positive post on this fucking site and I read the articles every day. Would you like to enlighten me as to why this is so?
I originally came to slash dot to read various story summaries, follow the links for the full stories. Than watch the threads that developed. I have found that most slash doters are.
1). Immoral. They have no guilt about taking from others work without compensating them.
2). Hypocritical. Be the first to complain when they feel they are not getting their fair share, after they readily admit taking from others.
3). Left wing. If this crew can't have what others earned on their own, they call that person a crook because they have succeeded the slash doter couldn't. Typical liberals.
4). Anti Business. I know, same as liberal. But this crowd is rabid in how much they hate business. I have never seen a group of people that claim they are so intelligent that do not understand that if it wasn't for business, they would not have a job. And that business is about making money, just like working for someone is about making money.
I know, your going to ask why I come here if I hate it so much. It's simple. No matter what source you read, no matter what the position the source is taking. If you cut through the spin, there is always truth in it someplace. If you don't take the time to read it, you will never know of that truth.
Can you say the same? Can you say that you read various materials, even if you don't agree. Just to find the grain of truth in the material? Or are you biased in everything you read like I would be very willing to bet most slash doters are.
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Remember FTA, business's have accounts on facebook. Not that workers are posting to facebook. Your only addressing part of the article.
The only thing people are advocating here is the removal of patents. Why, because they don't have their own.
The patent office is broken because it has been ignored by congress and what ever administrations.
Want it fixed. Create a panel of business, social, judicial, and technical people. Streamline and educate the system to issue patents correctly and in a exspeediant fashion. If the panel feels more people should be hired from various professions, which is most likely what should occur. So be it. Do it.
Whats so hard about it. Other than the only thing the socialists on this web site want is the elimination of the office completely.
In my experience, the ones that complain about others making more or having something they don't are jealous. Slash doters are socialists at heart. Just look at the posts. The complaints about big business. These assholes are just as power hungry as any business they complain against. Just watch the the moderators to prove my point.
Those that complain about a specific topic of distribution of wealth or compensation are the ones that are not on the receiving end. They want what they don't have, so they campaign against those that have what they want. Why, simple. If they can't have it, nobody else should either.
Nothing but a bunch of cry babies that are pure fucking hypocrites. And it's easy to show how these assholes are hypocrites. Watch their ranting about companies and licenses, than watch the opposite rants from he same people about open source and licenses. Fucking hypocrites.
There are two kinds of security: there's the theatrical version, whose only function is to encourage a feeling of safety among the population, and then there's real security, which is less concerned about appearance and more concerned about results. I don't know about Japan, but I'm sure Israel could teach us a few things.
And if the United States followed Israels mode of security, your fellow slash doters would be crying:
1). Invasion of privacy.
2). Over reaction
3). Ethnic profiling.
But than, because most slash doters are hypocrite's. If something happened, loss of lives. They would be the first to bitch and moan that enough wasn't done.
It's simple. My point is that the people that complain are just jealous. If you can't deal with that being the point. You should have never picked up the conversation.
Because if there never was those abstract ideas, we would be worse off. Doesn't matter WHO implements them, it matters that SOMEONE thought of them. Your argument is to forgo the person that came up with the idea, no compensation. And reward the person that JUST implements them. The person that had money to put the idea into implementation.
The money person should be compensated, they took the risk and foot the bill for implementation. But to completely ignore who came up with the idea shows how little you think of your fellow human beings and what they HAVE contributed. And/. is the first to bitch and moan how the little man is fucked in todays society. Your position just fucks him more. Be it a company or an individual. You are fucking them out of rightful compensation for something they have contributed.
And lets cut to the chase, and skip the fucking bull shit. There IS a market for ideas. They are traded for a monetary value. Just because YOU don't feel people should be compensated for their ideas. Others quite obviously do think these ideas are worth money and they do pay for them.
Ideas are traded every day.
Again, back to the jealousy thing. The ONLY compensation you are receiving is in wages paid for implementing ideas. Your jealous because your not part of the high profits. Hey, come up with an original idea on your own and market it. There are buyers.
Otherwise, keep your nose to the wheel and implimenting other peoples ideas.
Ideas can be sold and the person that buys them can implement them. You nor anyone else can implement something that was never thought of. Copyright gives you sole ownership of the idea which than gives you full right to sell that idea to someone else to implement.
Again, the ones that complain the most are the ones that did not come up with ideas themselves. Its pure simple jealousy. Nothing more, nothing less.
Seriously, why should they? I've yet to see any sort of justification for why an idea (as opposed to a product or an implementation) should be rewarded.
From someone that has never had a profitable idea of your own. Your just jealous of the individuals that have.
When you come up with a profitable idea, please let us know how long it takes you to apply for a software patent. Or, please let us know why you didn't. And provide citation.
I look at people like you and wonder how often you throw temper tantrums because you weren't born smart enough to do what others have.
Lesson in debate dumb fuck. If your going to refute someones statement, be ready to backup your rebuttal with some verifiable facts that everyone can review.
I do not know the politics of your nation. You made comments in your fucking rebuttal about specific parties and also their position. You did not provide any information to back that up either.
Your father should have cum on your mothers face, it would have saved the world all the work of supporting you. Quite obviously you have no idea how to support yourself.
Given that you aren't willing to back up statements calling someone else completely wrong in what they posted. Why should I bother taking the time to verify your facts. Gee, why does that surprise me that people are to fucking lazy to back up their facts with links when they call someone else on their statements.
How about a non biased web site. Quite obviously your a liberal. Only liberals feel they should be allowed to post biased web sites. How about government web sites. News web sites. For and against.
Don't bother. Your not worth it. Ever heard the term 'The ugly American'. Well I now submit that you are 'The Lazy Australian'
I guess you completely missed why I posted in the first place. You wasn't even close.
I wasn't trying to say you was wrong or right. I am not from Australia and do not know. But I do know that the topic that was being discussed is interesting. So I was hoping that when 2 people from a nation I am not from have differing opinions, that they would enlighten the rest of us with links to back up their positions. But quite obviously you don't give a fuck if people know the facts about your nation. So, if you don't give a fuck. Why should I.
By the way, you made the statements not I. Its yours to provide the facts to back it up. Especially sense you are disputing someone else's position. I just asked for citation from either of you to back up your respective positions. Quite obviously, neither of you are that intelligent to know that supporting links lend credibility to your positions.
I happen to agree with you. I do not own the building, I do not own the equipment. I am on those premises with the owners permission for work purposes only. I have no right to use either the equipment nor the building I work in for personal use.
I would say most of the rabid slash doters disagree with that position though.
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You can't even keep track of your own web site, no wonder you can't handle pay based on individual productivity. This conversation is over, what a loser.
What a bull shit argument. How the fuck can you compare a corrupt cop/corrupt politician with a waiter/waitress. Next.
The person who benefits from a screwed up situation is the entirely wrong person to ask whether they'd like it to stop existing. If it benefits you, of course you'll say it's a wonderful thing.
This conversation is over due to this statement by you. By your comparison of a hard working waiter/waitress getting higher tips to a corrupt political politician shows how fucked up you really are. Id spit in your face if you was close enough right now. And hope you had the guts to do something about it.
If you want to know where I live to follow up further, please feel free to respond. Otherwise, fuck off and die. And please do not visit any restraints where I know people. I would hate for them to get stiffed because you associate their hard work with them being corrupt.
With the knowledge of working for union shops where I was that I should be making more than the asshole next to me that couldn't code his way out of wet paper bag, and that with given specs because they were to stupid to figure things out or understand customer needs. I take that statement as someone that can't survive on your own skill set which is why you don't believe in pay based on quality and attitude of work.
With the knowledge from working IN a union shop, where I was informed by supervisors that I should be making more than the asshole next to me. The dumb fuck that couldn't code without specs, and still didn't get good reviews when he did have specs. I take your statement as someone that can't survive on your own skill set which is why you don't believe in pay based on quality and attitude of work.
Tip presented to you for your above arguments is minimum possible without being none. Stating that your arguments were sub par is being nice.
And in a free market, I'm perfectly free to vote with my dollars, pay only what's required, and avoid establishments that make a big deal about tipping. Where's the problem?
None. As a person that has worked in these type of jobs. I wouldn't want to wait on you anyway. Take your money and shove it. I can do much better off others. And even better yet, when I walk out the door with the higher pay check in tips. I will know my customers did it because they enjoyed and appreciated the service I provided. Satisfaction in a job well done. Based on amount of money I made that day.
And, why would I want to tip the waitress anyway? If I was going to tip somebody it'd be the cook, but that seems to be difficult to do.
If it wasn't for the waiter/waitress letting the cook know what you wanted, wouldn't get jack shit. If it wasn't for the waiter/waitress letting you know the customer favorites, you would miss out. There is alot to be said about finding out what the waiter/waitress thinks about various items on the menu. But, knowing your a cheap cock sucker. I would not offer that knowledge to you.
That's like asking a corrupt policeman the same sort of thing. Of course they like having extra money, duh. That doesn't mean it's a good thing to have.
What a bull shit argument. How the fuck can you compare a corrupt cop/corrupt politician with a waiter/waitress. Next.
What I do think is that they should earn the same amount of money, except as part of their real wage.
With the knowledge of working for union shops where I was that I should be making more than the asshole next to me that couldn't code his way out of wet paper bag, and that with given specs because they were to stupid to figure things out or understand customer needs. I take that statement as someone that can't survive on your own skill set which is why you don't believe in pay based on quality and attitude of work.
You quite obviously live in the socialist world where you don't believe people should get ahead by their own merits.
The better worker gets the increased pay check. To bad your union slugs can't do the same for their workers. But then, that would go against what is yours should also be mine.
Why don't you talk to someone that brings home several hundred dollars a night in tips what they think of your opinion.
Wrong, this allows for an employee to actually make more than the other employee's by being exceptionally good at their job. Unlike in a union shop where everyone makes the same, no matter the quality of work.
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I have yet to read a post where the ANY slash doter has made a positive statement about ANY agency of the US government. They ridicule when the government makes mistakes and they ignore when the government does something right. They refuse to acknowledge ANY advancements this nation has made against the extremists. I can't remember one positive post on this fucking site and I read the articles every day. Would you like to enlighten me as to why this is so?
I originally came to slash dot to read various story summaries, follow the links for the full stories. Than watch the threads that developed. I have found that most slash doters are.
I know, your going to ask why I come here if I hate it so much. It's simple. No matter what source you read, no matter what the position the source is taking. If you cut through the spin, there is always truth in it someplace. If you don't take the time to read it, you will never know of that truth.
Can you say the same? Can you say that you read various materials, even if you don't agree. Just to find the grain of truth in the material? Or are you biased in everything you read like I would be very willing to bet most slash doters are.
for postings about upcoming events.
- New products.
- New discounts
- New prices
Remember FTA, business's have accounts on facebook. Not that workers are posting to facebook. Your only addressing part of the article.
The patent office is broken because it has been ignored by congress and what ever administrations.
Want it fixed. Create a panel of business, social, judicial, and technical people. Streamline and educate the system to issue patents correctly and in a exspeediant fashion. If the panel feels more people should be hired from various professions, which is most likely what should occur. So be it. Do it.
Whats so hard about it. Other than the only thing the socialists on this web site want is the elimination of the office completely.
Those that complain about a specific topic of distribution of wealth or compensation are the ones that are not on the receiving end. They want what they don't have, so they campaign against those that have what they want. Why, simple. If they can't have it, nobody else should either.
Nothing but a bunch of cry babies that are pure fucking hypocrites. And it's easy to show how these assholes are hypocrites. Watch their ranting about companies and licenses, than watch the opposite rants from he same people about open source and licenses. Fucking hypocrites.
There are two kinds of security: there's the theatrical version, whose only function is to encourage a feeling of safety among the population, and then there's real security, which is less concerned about appearance and more concerned about results. I don't know about Japan, but I'm sure Israel could teach us a few things.
And if the United States followed Israels mode of security, your fellow slash doters would be crying:
But than, because most slash doters are hypocrite's. If something happened, loss of lives. They would be the first to bitch and moan that enough wasn't done.
It's simple. My point is that the people that complain are just jealous. If you can't deal with that being the point. You should have never picked up the conversation.
The money person should be compensated, they took the risk and foot the bill for implementation. But to completely ignore who came up with the idea shows how little you think of your fellow human beings and what they HAVE contributed. And /. is the first to bitch and moan how the little man is fucked in todays society. Your position just fucks him more. Be it a company or an individual. You are fucking them out of rightful compensation for something they have contributed.
And lets cut to the chase, and skip the fucking bull shit. There IS a market for ideas. They are traded for a monetary value. Just because YOU don't feel people should be compensated for their ideas. Others quite obviously do think these ideas are worth money and they do pay for them. Ideas are traded every day.
Again, back to the jealousy thing. The ONLY compensation you are receiving is in wages paid for implementing ideas. Your jealous because your not part of the high profits. Hey, come up with an original idea on your own and market it. There are buyers.
Otherwise, keep your nose to the wheel and implimenting other peoples ideas.
If the shoe fits, put it on.
Ideas can be sold and the person that buys them can implement them. You nor anyone else can implement something that was never thought of. Copyright gives you sole ownership of the idea which than gives you full right to sell that idea to someone else to implement.
Again, the ones that complain the most are the ones that did not come up with ideas themselves. Its pure simple jealousy. Nothing more, nothing less.
Seriously, why should they? I've yet to see any sort of justification for why an idea (as opposed to a product or an implementation) should be rewarded.
From someone that has never had a profitable idea of your own. Your just jealous of the individuals that have.
When you come up with a profitable idea, please let us know how long it takes you to apply for a software patent. Or, please let us know why you didn't. And provide citation.
I look at people like you and wonder how often you throw temper tantrums because you weren't born smart enough to do what others have.
I do not know the politics of your nation. You made comments in your fucking rebuttal about specific parties and also their position. You did not provide any information to back that up either.
Your father should have cum on your mothers face, it would have saved the world all the work of supporting you. Quite obviously you have no idea how to support yourself.
If you can't back up your rebuttal. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
I put the question to YOU because YOU were refuting EVERYONE of his statements.
Fucking cunt.
How about a non biased web site. Quite obviously your a liberal. Only liberals feel they should be allowed to post biased web sites. How about government web sites. News web sites. For and against.
Don't bother. Your not worth it. Ever heard the term 'The ugly American'. Well I now submit that you are 'The Lazy Australian'
I wasn't trying to say you was wrong or right. I am not from Australia and do not know. But I do know that the topic that was being discussed is interesting. So I was hoping that when 2 people from a nation I am not from have differing opinions, that they would enlighten the rest of us with links to back up their positions. But quite obviously you don't give a fuck if people know the facts about your nation. So, if you don't give a fuck. Why should I.
By the way, you made the statements not I. Its yours to provide the facts to back it up. Especially sense you are disputing someone else's position. I just asked for citation from either of you to back up your respective positions. Quite obviously, neither of you are that intelligent to know that supporting links lend credibility to your positions.
Individual certificate, sorry. Should have been part of the original post.
Just asking if that type of security exists for open id?
And neither of you provided citation to back up your positions. All in all there isn't a verifiable fact in the whole mess.
And better yet, you must not have read all the slash doters opinions with regard to this law. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/08/23/0316249/Germany-To-Grant-Privacy-At-the-Workplace
I happen to agree with you. I do not own the building, I do not own the equipment. I am on those premises with the owners permission for work purposes only. I have no right to use either the equipment nor the building I work in for personal use.
I would say most of the rabid slash doters disagree with that position though.
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You can't even keep track of your own web site, no wonder you can't handle pay based on individual productivity. This conversation is over, what a loser.
This conversation is over due to this statement by you. By your comparison of a hard working waiter/waitress getting higher tips to a corrupt political politician shows how fucked up you really are. Id spit in your face if you was close enough right now. And hope you had the guts to do something about it.
If you want to know where I live to follow up further, please feel free to respond. Otherwise, fuck off and die. And please do not visit any restraints where I know people. I would hate for them to get stiffed because you associate their hard work with them being corrupt.
With the knowledge of working for union shops where I was that I should be making more than the asshole next to me that couldn't code his way out of wet paper bag, and that with given specs because they were to stupid to figure things out or understand customer needs. I take that statement as someone that can't survive on your own skill set which is why you don't believe in pay based on quality and attitude of work.
With the knowledge from working IN a union shop, where I was informed by supervisors that I should be making more than the asshole next to me. The dumb fuck that couldn't code without specs, and still didn't get good reviews when he did have specs. I take your statement as someone that can't survive on your own skill set which is why you don't believe in pay based on quality and attitude of work.
Tip presented to you for your above arguments is minimum possible without being none. Stating that your arguments were sub par is being nice.
And in a free market, I'm perfectly free to vote with my dollars, pay only what's required, and avoid establishments that make a big deal about tipping. Where's the problem?
None. As a person that has worked in these type of jobs. I wouldn't want to wait on you anyway. Take your money and shove it. I can do much better off others. And even better yet, when I walk out the door with the higher pay check in tips. I will know my customers did it because they enjoyed and appreciated the service I provided. Satisfaction in a job well done. Based on amount of money I made that day.
And, why would I want to tip the waitress anyway? If I was going to tip somebody it'd be the cook, but that seems to be difficult to do.
If it wasn't for the waiter/waitress letting the cook know what you wanted, wouldn't get jack shit. If it wasn't for the waiter/waitress letting you know the customer favorites, you would miss out. There is alot to be said about finding out what the waiter/waitress thinks about various items on the menu. But, knowing your a cheap cock sucker. I would not offer that knowledge to you.
That's like asking a corrupt policeman the same sort of thing. Of course they like having extra money, duh. That doesn't mean it's a good thing to have.
What a bull shit argument. How the fuck can you compare a corrupt cop/corrupt politician with a waiter/waitress. Next.
What I do think is that they should earn the same amount of money, except as part of their real wage.
With the knowledge of working for union shops where I was that I should be making more than the asshole next to me that couldn't code his way out of wet paper bag, and that with given specs because they were to stupid to figure things out or understand customer needs. I take that statement as someone that can't survive on your own skill set which is why you don't believe in pay based on quality and attitude of work.
The better worker gets the increased pay check. To bad your union slugs can't do the same for their workers. But then, that would go against what is yours should also be mine.
Why don't you talk to someone that brings home several hundred dollars a night in tips what they think of your opinion.
Wrong, this allows for an employee to actually make more than the other employee's by being exceptionally good at their job. Unlike in a union shop where everyone makes the same, no matter the quality of work.
Now we will be modded down into oblivion because of the said hypocrisy.