I know about PayPal, and it does have a great rate. But there are no automated ways to tie into the PayPal system. You can make a "click here to pay me $1" link, but there's no free or unfree code I know of that can tie that into a pay-for-download or pay-for-view system.
If I thought I'd sell a dozen of my $3 PDFs, I would have used PayPay. But it's a business experiment, and I need to plan for success to some degree. That means finding a totally automated system that can handle a load of orders if I am lucky enough to get them.
So besides starving artists and fans of the starving artists, who really wants this? Obviously Visa etc. don't give a rat's arse about micropayments or we'd have them already. And sadly it will take the backing of major players like Visa to get a system off the ground. (If someone can do an end run around them, so much the better.)
Just this week I was wrestling with this problem. I have a publishing company, and we sell books... but I wanted to try selling a $3 PDF as an experiment. And I wanted to do it withough larding up MY web server with ecommerce software and file hosting. I wanted a place to upload files, and said place would handle the payment/download, and then just send me a check.
I looked all over. There's Digibuy, but they charge a MINIMUM commission of $2... sort of pointless for a $3 download. And they were one of the cheapest.
Eventually I found swreg.org. They have a micropayment pay-for-download service. For products with a price of up to $7, they charge you $0.69 in commission. Best deal I have found. Terrible interface, but the value seems to be there, in case anyone was looking for something like this too. It's not a true micropayment in the "pay 1 cent to view my comic strip" sense, but it fit my needs anyway.
It's not just VW. For some reason no one thinks Americans want sports cars. I guess for a long time we didn't because of the SUV craze. (by "we" I don't mean me!)
Thankfully things are changing a little. Subaru brought us the WRX, though it has a lot less power than the Japanese/Euro version. Mitsubishi is bringing the Lancer over too I hear, but again we get less power.
There must be a damn good reason for capping the HP of imported sports cars. Wish I knew what it was. Is it our insurance? Is there really that big a difference in insurance between ~240HP and ~280?
I'm always telling my friends... the coming biotech revolution will make the computer revolution look like nothing. And I'm a biochemist, so hopefully I know a little about it.:) The trick now is spotting who the Microsoft of biotech will be...
Nanotech I am not convinved on yet. There are precious few results, though the theories are great. I have a feeling that nanotech will see some very narrow uses, but more broadly biotech will be the big hammer. It has quite a head start.
NetFlix RULES. When I had time to watch movies, I dumped Blockbuster for NetFlix and never looked back! Anyone with a rental habit owes it to themselves to try them out. It's just a better way of doing things.
Sadly Blockbuster will stick around. At least until VOD can offer as many choices. On my satellite, there are only 25 PPV channels, but many movies are shown on 2-3 channels so there's a selection of start times.
naturally most of the movies are current ones, too. Though once or twice I noticed Shaft was available.
Recently I have decided I need to create a backup image of my RTV 3030 hard drive. If the drive ever craps out (and that seems the most likely point of failure) I can replace it myself and keep on' truckin. No Panasonic Macrovision hassles, no switching to Tivo and losing 30-second skip...
I think that if PVRs take off the next generations will be saddled with all kinds of restrictions. I can very easily imagine a netowrk paying Tivo/RTV to disallow FF control inputs during their shows, for example... so long as the economics make sense, anyway. For that to be possible a LOT of people would have to be didging ads with PVRs, but things may get to that point. When they do I want to be still using my friendly old technology.
For everything I've read about Tivo, there's nothing yet that has convinced me I want one.
I'm not going to repeat the feature list everyone else is posting. But if you are curious about what has people going so crazy, go see a Tivo or ReplayTV somewhere. Find a friend, or a friend's friend. Any PVR owner will be happy to show it off. They really are THAT cool.
I can understand the desire to keep things cheap, the article just didn't come across that way somehow.
A "professional" grade camera may very well use the same CCD chip as something like the Vesta.
Heh, no way.:) I have had a series of digital cameras of various prices and I know that that *none* of them would have been bettered by a $20 webcam. For reference, here are some pics from a $500 Canon digicam. Show me where to get that quality for $20 and I'll buy ten of them!
Neat pictures, but if you are into astrophotography... why not a real camera? Or a good digital camera? Seems like a shame to waste $1-2k of telescope on a $100 imaging unit.
Would this guy's story have made the front page if it didn't use a webcam?
that analogy doesn't work perfectly because computers aren't people. they have different senses.
Our most hands-off sense is sight. It relies on photons bounced off something else. It's passive unless you use a light source. But a computer can't see another computer on a network. A computer is blind, so to speak. It has to walk up to that other computer, in a way, and feel it up to learn anything about it at all.
I don't think portscanning should be illegal, since it's representative of the the most basic way to learn about another system.
Would feeling around the outside of a building, looking for a doorway, be illegal if humans were all blind? Probably not. If touch is all you have, the laws would be a little different.
The Internet is a public internetwork by definition. It's like standing on a public highway.
Is this actually true though? Various phone companies and other tech companies paid for the cables and routers that are connecting me to you. Every packet that I send or receive heads through AT&T. How much Federal money is involved?
I agree that it should be considered a public resource, but it isn't exactly analagous to an interstate highway, which was paid for with taxes.
Another point to debate. I think that there is, and that the Common Man can serve it, partially by shooting Bad Guys if forced to. But hey, to each his own.
But as far as guns go, you're statistically much more likely to shoot yourself, family, or a friend, than an attacker.
For each study that concludes that there is another that refutes it. Personally, I have a great deal of faith in my training and judgement. I take it all very seriously and see myself as responsible for the safety of those around me. But it's a personal thing and I don't think that gun ownership is the right choice for everyone.
I'm sure many people have saved themselves against attackers using their guns. I'm willing to bet that a whole lot more people have been killed as a result of provoking an attacker or in an accident at home.
Sure, there are always accidents. But there are not as many as some people would have you think. (there are many sets of contradictory studies, as always in this field.)
As to the viability of resisting -- check into Gary Kleck's research. Here's a summary from a page I found, it should be easy to google for more if you are curious.
"Kleck found that victims who resist with a gun are less likely to be attacked, injured, or suffer property losses, than those who use any other means of self-protection, or who do not resist an attack - even when confronted by an attacker armed with a gun. Furthermore, Kleck concluded from existing data that armed defenders lose their guns to an attacker less than 1% of the time."
An author named Paxton Quigley quotes some other stats that are specifically about the viability of women resisting attackers, and her conclusion is also that it is the better course of action.
I'm just saying that if you're looking to improve your personal safety, there are better choices. Martial arts, for instance. It's much harder for your kid to accidentally pick up your fist and beat himself to death with it.;)
BIG GUY: Give me your money or I will bleed you.
SMALL GUY: Crap, ok. Please don't hurt m-- OW, DEAR GOD, SOMEONE HELP ME!
I do not believe that fists can beat a gun often enough to go down that road myself. I have done enough martial arts and enough competitive pistol shooting to know which one I would rather rely on!!
The kid thing -- well, I don't have kids. Too bad more people aren't as cautious that way as you seem to be though. Kids and guns don't mix, I can agree with that.
Here's a news flash, Chester... sometimes an individual will need to harm or even kill another person for the greater good. You can say that isn't so all you want but it won't make it true. You can believe it with every fiber of your being, but you would still be wrong. Sometimes, violence isn't just a solution, it's the only solution.
I sincerely hope your delicate worldview is never harmed though. I'd never wish misfortune on another person, but that's probably what it will take to get you to change your mind.
(I've had an unarmed friend killed by armed robbers, despite her compliance with their demands, so please don't tell me that cooperating with a bad guy insures your safety.)
If you want to argue about guns, there are a lot of other better ways to go about it. Weapons aren't evil. They are tools, and like any tool they can be use or abused.
Find me one person who shoots his own house to test its defenses...
Heh, my urban fortress isn't ready for stress-testing yet.:)
(And thanks for reminding me to finish my concealed weapons permit paperwork. I've been putting it off.)
It's not all that much like NeXTSTEP/OpenStep. Then again, it's not all that much like Mac OS, either. There are elements of both in there, and it is very much so the bastard child. I liked the NeXT GUI a lot more than Mac OS X's. I could ramble on and on, but let me tell you, as a user of NeXTSTEP (still got 3.3 on my cube), OpenStep, and Rhapsody Mac OS X isn't all that much like the NeXT GUI. Rhapsody and Mac OS X Server were.
Fair enough, I only dabbled with NeXTs back in the day.
As a Mac user, I'm sure you know that feeling of having to use Windows- the feeling that you're being held back by it's GUI.
Sadly I feel more at home in Windows than MacOSX these days.
That is what a user of NeXTSTEP feels when he has to use Mac OS, X+whatever window manager, or Windows.
I have heard NeXT people say a lot of things, but I have never heard someone who liked the interface that much.
Is there any (free) way to run NeXTSTEP on Intel hardware?
hey, to each his own. Glad you like Aqua. I hope I am in the minority, because I would like to see Apple do well.
But here are the things I don't like about it. I am not trying to get into a point-by-point rebuttal match, these are just my pet peeves.
- No customizable Apple menu.
- If you put a folder alias in the Dock, the alias doesn't resolve, so no hierarchial menus from aliases in the Dock... so you can't fake your own Apple menu.
- Difficult to change file type/creator associations. (Even Windows gives you a GUI interface for changing what opens a.foo file. OSX should have a control panel for this, it's important! I know it's in there somewhere but it should have been made obvious.)
- The OS locks you out of doing a lot of things, even with the admin password. (Using the GUI, try to throw out the documentation that's installed with the developer tools. YOU CAN'T. You have to use rootly power and rm -rf it. There are a lot of other useless files that are "protected" like this.)
- The admin user doesn't have the ability to mess with the other user's files. If I am logged in as admin I can't trash files I left on the desktop under another login. On OS9, the Multiple Users machine owner can do that stuff. Under OSX I have to use the console or log out/in to use the GUI.
- Aqua is not as space-efficient as OS9. Windows seem huge, with lots of wasted space on the screen.
- Get Info on a HD icon on the desktop. It doesn't tell you how big it is or how much free space is left. You have to Get Info on a HD icon in a Finder window to learn that.
- There's nothing akin to the Extensions Manager anymore. (I know that there won't be Extensions and Control Panels as we knew them, but I still think that an EM-like control panel would be nice for toggling some system features on and off.)
In the end, I guess I should just say that I am looking forward to the day when I genuinely like OSX. Until then, I will have to amuse myself with its command-line tools, and continue to work in OS9 where I feel more at home.
Preface: I am a Mac fan too. I've had one since the very beginning, though now I have a lot of other kinds of computers too.
That said...
Apple isn't innovating so much as dusting off its old NeXT technology.
I am very happy with the technical foundation of OSX. It rules. BSD stuff in my Mac! But I hate the new GUI. Apple -- no, STEVE -- threw out a decade of GUI evolution so that he could force his pet project onto us, that being the NeXT way of doing things. NeXT was his baby, and he can't let it go. Steve has an incredibly large ego.
Aqua isn't revolutionary. It's retarded. It may look good when you compare it to the GUIs that you can get for the free Unixes, but if Apple REALLY wanted to make its CURRENT users happy, they would have given OSX a MacOS 9 style GUI.
By any measure, the OS9 interface is better. The could have added new features to support the new OS's foundation, but instead they built up a new monstrosity which has, for me, about 10% of the usability of OS9. I suspect that Aqua will be useable a year from now, but only for the people who want to spend $100 on shareware GUI tweaks that Apple/Steve are too pig-headed to build in for us.
There's plenty to criticise in the Mac but "the generally obscure places Apple had chosen to hide things" isn't one of them. The Mac OS is a lot easier to grok than Windows. On the Mac, there are no spyware apps hiding out with strangely-named registry keys... There's a system folder, and in it are folders for fonts, OS extensions, etc. If you want to turn off a system feature, there's a control panel to let you do that.
When was the last time you tried to disable a Windows box's PC Health Monitoring? MS is the one that hides things from you, not Apple.
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You need something like Webplay and a $100 junker Intel computer. With a big hard drive, of course.
My only regret about my Webplay jukebox is that I can't afford to put in a bigger hard drive at the moment.
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Even if all that is true (and the pro-gun people have lengthy documents shooting holes in those two studies), it is currently my right to make a "bad" decision and keep a gun around.
Scared of guns? Good. Don't get one.
If you'd like to read a scholarly bit from the other camp, check out what Gary Kleck has to say.
Do you have any stats on the percentage of bible-reading couples who are miserable together anyway?
I know about PayPal, and it does have a great rate. But there are no automated ways to tie into the PayPal system. You can make a "click here to pay me $1" link, but there's no free or unfree code I know of that can tie that into a pay-for-download or pay-for-view system.
If I thought I'd sell a dozen of my $3 PDFs, I would have used PayPay. But it's a business experiment, and I need to plan for success to some degree. That means finding a totally automated system that can handle a load of orders if I am lucky enough to get them.
So besides starving artists and fans of the starving artists, who really wants this? Obviously Visa etc. don't give a rat's arse about micropayments or we'd have them already. And sadly it will take the backing of major players like Visa to get a system off the ground. (If someone can do an end run around them, so much the better.)
Just this week I was wrestling with this problem. I have a publishing company, and we sell books... but I wanted to try selling a $3 PDF as an experiment. And I wanted to do it withough larding up MY web server with ecommerce software and file hosting. I wanted a place to upload files, and said place would handle the payment/download, and then just send me a check.
I looked all over. There's Digibuy, but they charge a MINIMUM commission of $2... sort of pointless for a $3 download. And they were one of the cheapest.
Eventually I found swreg.org. They have a micropayment pay-for-download service. For products with a price of up to $7, they charge you $0.69 in commission. Best deal I have found. Terrible interface, but the value seems to be there, in case anyone was looking for something like this too. It's not a true micropayment in the "pay 1 cent to view my comic strip" sense, but it fit my needs anyway.
It's not just VW. For some reason no one thinks Americans want sports cars. I guess for a long time we didn't because of the SUV craze. (by "we" I don't mean me!)
Thankfully things are changing a little. Subaru brought us the WRX, though it has a lot less power than the Japanese/Euro version. Mitsubishi is bringing the Lancer over too I hear, but again we get less power.
There must be a damn good reason for capping the HP of imported sports cars. Wish I knew what it was. Is it our insurance? Is there really that big a difference in insurance between ~240HP and ~280?
Is Irn-Bru anything like the Cuban Iron Beer?
I'm always telling my friends... the coming biotech revolution will make the computer revolution look like nothing. And I'm a biochemist, so hopefully I know a little about it.
Nanotech I am not convinved on yet. There are precious few results, though the theories are great. I have a feeling that nanotech will see some very narrow uses, but more broadly biotech will be the big hammer. It has quite a head start.
NetFlix RULES. When I had time to watch movies, I dumped Blockbuster for NetFlix and never looked back! Anyone with a rental habit owes it to themselves to try them out. It's just a better way of doing things.
Sadly Blockbuster will stick around. At least until VOD can offer as many choices. On my satellite, there are only 25 PPV channels, but many movies are shown on 2-3 channels so there's a selection of start times.
naturally most of the movies are current ones, too. Though once or twice I noticed Shaft was available.
Man, you said it.
Recently I have decided I need to create a backup image of my RTV 3030 hard drive. If the drive ever craps out (and that seems the most likely point of failure) I can replace it myself and keep on' truckin. No Panasonic Macrovision hassles, no switching to Tivo and losing 30-second skip...
I think that if PVRs take off the next generations will be saddled with all kinds of restrictions. I can very easily imagine a netowrk paying Tivo/RTV to disallow FF control inputs during their shows, for example... so long as the economics make sense, anyway. For that to be possible a LOT of people would have to be didging ads with PVRs, but things may get to that point. When they do I want to be still using my friendly old technology.
For everything I've read about Tivo, there's nothing yet that has convinced me I want one.
I'm not going to repeat the feature list everyone else is posting. But if you are curious about what has people going so crazy, go see a Tivo or ReplayTV somewhere. Find a friend, or a friend's friend. Any PVR owner will be happy to show it off. They really are THAT cool.
Then I guess the Supreme Court just put them out of business.
I can understand the desire to keep things cheap, the article just didn't come across that way somehow.
:) I have had a series of digital cameras of various prices and I know that that *none* of them would have been bettered by a $20 webcam. For reference, here are some pics from a $500 Canon digicam. Show me where to get that quality for $20 and I'll buy ten of them!
A "professional" grade camera may very well use the same CCD chip as something like the Vesta.
Heh, no way.
Neat pictures, but if you are into astrophotography... why not a real camera? Or a good digital camera? Seems like a shame to waste $1-2k of telescope on a $100 imaging unit.
Would this guy's story have made the front page if it didn't use a webcam?
that analogy doesn't work perfectly because computers aren't people. they have different senses.
Our most hands-off sense is sight. It relies on photons bounced off something else. It's passive unless you use a light source. But a computer can't see another computer on a network. A computer is blind, so to speak. It has to walk up to that other computer, in a way, and feel it up to learn anything about it at all.
I don't think portscanning should be illegal, since it's representative of the the most basic way to learn about another system.
Would feeling around the outside of a building, looking for a doorway, be illegal if humans were all blind? Probably not. If touch is all you have, the laws would be a little different.
The Internet is a public internetwork by definition. It's like standing on a public highway.
Is this actually true though? Various phone companies and other tech companies paid for the cables and routers that are connecting me to you. Every packet that I send or receive heads through AT&T. How much Federal money is involved?
I agree that it should be considered a public resource, but it isn't exactly analagous to an interstate highway, which was paid for with taxes.
There is no greater good.
;)
Another point to debate. I think that there is, and that the Common Man can serve it, partially by shooting Bad Guys if forced to. But hey, to each his own.
But as far as guns go, you're statistically much more likely to shoot yourself, family, or a friend, than an attacker.
For each study that concludes that there is another that refutes it. Personally, I have a great deal of faith in my training and judgement. I take it all very seriously and see myself as responsible for the safety of those around me. But it's a personal thing and I don't think that gun ownership is the right choice for everyone.
I'm sure many people have saved themselves against attackers using their guns. I'm willing to bet that a whole lot more people have been killed as a result of provoking an attacker or in an accident at home.
Sure, there are always accidents. But there are not as many as some people would have you think. (there are many sets of contradictory studies, as always in this field.)
As to the viability of resisting -- check into Gary Kleck's research. Here's a summary from a page I found, it should be easy to google for more if you are curious.
"Kleck found that victims who resist with a gun are less likely to be attacked, injured, or suffer property losses, than those who use any other means of self-protection, or who do not resist an attack - even when confronted by an attacker armed with a gun. Furthermore, Kleck concluded from existing data that armed defenders lose their guns to an attacker less than 1% of the time."
An author named Paxton Quigley quotes some other stats that are specifically about the viability of women resisting attackers, and her conclusion is also that it is the better course of action.
I'm just saying that if you're looking to improve your personal safety, there are better choices. Martial arts, for instance. It's much harder for your kid to accidentally pick up your fist and beat himself to death with it.
BIG GUY: Give me your money or I will bleed you.
SMALL GUY: Crap, ok. Please don't hurt m-- OW, DEAR GOD, SOMEONE HELP ME!
I do not believe that fists can beat a gun often enough to go down that road myself. I have done enough martial arts and enough competitive pistol shooting to know which one I would rather rely on!!
The kid thing -- well, I don't have kids. Too bad more people aren't as cautious that way as you seem to be though. Kids and guns don't mix, I can agree with that.
guns can only be used to harm others
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Here's a news flash, Chester... sometimes an individual will need to harm or even kill another person for the greater good. You can say that isn't so all you want but it won't make it true. You can believe it with every fiber of your being, but you would still be wrong. Sometimes, violence isn't just a solution, it's the only solution.
I sincerely hope your delicate worldview is never harmed though. I'd never wish misfortune on another person, but that's probably what it will take to get you to change your mind.
(I've had an unarmed friend killed by armed robbers, despite her compliance with their demands, so please don't tell me that cooperating with a bad guy insures your safety.)
If you want to argue about guns, there are a lot of other better ways to go about it. Weapons aren't evil. They are tools, and like any tool they can be use or abused.
Find me one person who shoots his own house to test its defenses...
Heh, my urban fortress isn't ready for stress-testing yet.
(And thanks for reminding me to finish my concealed weapons permit paperwork. I've been putting it off.)
It's not all that much like NeXTSTEP/OpenStep. Then again, it's not all that much like Mac OS, either. There are elements of both in there, and it is very much so the bastard child. I liked the NeXT GUI a lot more than Mac OS X's. I could ramble on and on, but let me tell you, as a user of NeXTSTEP (still got 3.3 on my cube), OpenStep, and Rhapsody Mac OS X isn't all that much like the NeXT GUI. Rhapsody and Mac OS X Server were.
Fair enough, I only dabbled with NeXTs back in the day.
As a Mac user, I'm sure you know that feeling of having to use Windows- the feeling that you're being held back by it's GUI.
Sadly I feel more at home in Windows than MacOSX these days.
That is what a user of NeXTSTEP feels when he has to use Mac OS, X+whatever window manager, or Windows.
I have heard NeXT people say a lot of things, but I have never heard someone who liked the interface that much.
Is there any (free) way to run NeXTSTEP on Intel hardware?
hey, to each his own. Glad you like Aqua. I hope I am in the minority, because I would like to see Apple do well.
But here are the things I don't like about it. I am not trying to get into a point-by-point rebuttal match, these are just my pet peeves.
- No customizable Apple menu.
- If you put a folder alias in the Dock, the alias doesn't resolve, so no hierarchial menus from aliases in the Dock... so you can't fake your own Apple menu.
- Difficult to change file type/creator associations. (Even Windows gives you a GUI interface for changing what opens a
- The OS locks you out of doing a lot of things, even with the admin password. (Using the GUI, try to throw out the documentation that's installed with the developer tools. YOU CAN'T. You have to use rootly power and rm -rf it. There are a lot of other useless files that are "protected" like this.)
- The admin user doesn't have the ability to mess with the other user's files. If I am logged in as admin I can't trash files I left on the desktop under another login. On OS9, the Multiple Users machine owner can do that stuff. Under OSX I have to use the console or log out/in to use the GUI.
- Aqua is not as space-efficient as OS9. Windows seem huge, with lots of wasted space on the screen.
- Get Info on a HD icon on the desktop. It doesn't tell you how big it is or how much free space is left. You have to Get Info on a HD icon in a Finder window to learn that.
- There's nothing akin to the Extensions Manager anymore. (I know that there won't be Extensions and Control Panels as we knew them, but I still think that an EM-like control panel would be nice for toggling some system features on and off.)
In the end, I guess I should just say that I am looking forward to the day when I genuinely like OSX. Until then, I will have to amuse myself with its command-line tools, and continue to work in OS9 where I feel more at home.
Preface: I am a Mac fan too. I've had one since the very beginning, though now I have a lot of other kinds of computers too.
That said...
Apple isn't innovating so much as dusting off its old NeXT technology.
I am very happy with the technical foundation of OSX. It rules. BSD stuff in my Mac! But I hate the new GUI. Apple -- no, STEVE -- threw out a decade of GUI evolution so that he could force his pet project onto us, that being the NeXT way of doing things. NeXT was his baby, and he can't let it go. Steve has an incredibly large ego.
Aqua isn't revolutionary. It's retarded. It may look good when you compare it to the GUIs that you can get for the free Unixes, but if Apple REALLY wanted to make its CURRENT users happy, they would have given OSX a MacOS 9 style GUI.
By any measure, the OS9 interface is better. The could have added new features to support the new OS's foundation, but instead they built up a new monstrosity which has, for me, about 10% of the usability of OS9. I suspect that Aqua will be useable a year from now, but only for the people who want to spend $100 on shareware GUI tweaks that Apple/Steve are too pig-headed to build in for us.
Just another Mac guy's opinion...
There's plenty to criticise in the Mac but "the generally obscure places Apple had chosen to hide things" isn't one of them. The Mac OS is a lot easier to grok than Windows. On the Mac, there are no spyware apps hiding out with strangely-named registry keys... There's a system folder, and in it are folders for fonts, OS extensions, etc. If you want to turn off a system feature, there's a control panel to let you do that.
When was the last time you tried to disable a Windows box's PC Health Monitoring? MS is the one that hides things from you, not Apple.
You need something like Webplay and a $100 junker Intel computer. With a big hard drive, of course.
My only regret about my Webplay jukebox is that I can't afford to put in a bigger hard drive at the moment.
The cheapest iMac is $900.
Even if all that is true (and the pro-gun people have lengthy documents shooting holes in those two studies), it is currently my right to make a "bad" decision and keep a gun around.
Scared of guns? Good. Don't get one.
If you'd like to read a scholarly bit from the other camp, check out what Gary Kleck has to say.
Thanks for the help. I want to try and do something to get anti-quackery laws passed in the US. I'm sure it'll be a piece of cake, too.