Microsoft could be competing with the aluminum smelters as our largest consumer of electricity. It's nice to see that they are doing their part to keep things exciting in the foreign energy market.
Why are you complaining? If Java "just works" then you should be able to run your app just as well on a linux box. Your nifty new mac will run linux very well in VMware. If your are so damned motivated to run a Java 6 app on your mac, then you won't mind doing a little extra work. What is this Java 6 application that you absolutely must run, anyway?
Dude, I work with Java all the time. Some vendors are having a tough enough time supporting Java 5. Java is very important, but it takes development effort to do a good port, and Apple has been very busy lately. Face it, there are not a lot of Java 6 apps. If you really have to run one, get a Linux box, or run one in VMware.
Like I said, it's in Fedora 8, which is shipping any day now. If OSX actually had dedicated java developers, they'd be all over this, and they'd have their JDK just about ready, too. You don't have to be a developer to help out with a port. If you can run java programs and fill out good bug reports, then you can be a big help. If OSX supposedly has so many dedicated users, they should be able to pull this off in a snap! If RedHat can do it...
The Java complainers on OSX should STFU. Sun's released the JDK source, Redhat is putting it in Fedora 8. The Java complainers can make their own JDK for OSX. But then they wouldn't be able to whine at Apple any more.
Exactly. This is the effect of free software: it raises the bar. Commercial software can exist above the bar, but not below it. When the bar is raised high enough, the free package becomes "good enough". The price of hardware is falling to the point where the Microsoft license costs more than the rest of the computer combined, and that's when the "good enough" option becomes compelling.
If I have to buy a license for each instance, it's going to get expensive fast.
Is the license for instance copies, or running instances? How about suspended instances? Do they count? What if I copy an instance and it's running in two places at once? Even if I suspend one as soon as the second unsuspends? Running a licensed OS in a virtual machine is an exercise in ambiguity.
Right now there's only one version of OSX that will support this, so that's not interesting.
Just about anything you can do on an OSX server, you can do faster, cheaper, etc. on a Linux server. Different story on the desktop, I'm not going there.
In the story John Walsh says that virtual machines are more important in Windows. It's just as important with Linux. Much commercial Linux software requires a distribution that you probably don't want to run on your machine. With virtualization, it's no problem.
It's not clear to me what problem is being solved by having virtual OSX.
By keeping the source closed, he is in fact assuming all responsibility for the actions of his code. If his code allows something bad to happen, we can say with certainty that it's all his fault.
Ironically enough, rms got the idea for free software when he couldn't get at the source code to the printer in his lab.
I do agree with you, though. You can think of the blob as some microcode for controlling the hardware. It could have been integrated into the hardware, but it would be slower and harder to work with. If it were in the hardware, nobody would be clamoring for its source. If we are really paranoid about drivers, perhaps they too could be boxed-in like SELinux does with applications.
Given that the wireless radio must be constrained differently in different countries, and the regulatory agencies of said countries don't want people to muck with certain radio settings, you can put all those constraints in hardware, which seems like it would be difficult to maintain, or you can do it in a binary blob.
The comment in the file is misleading (there are other problems!), which is a bug all by itself. Just because it's not the default doesn't mean that people don't do it. Doesn't it say somewhere, "If you have a laptop, set ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE"?
When you look at all the time and effort you are going to expend on your computer in its lifetime, quibbling over a few dollars on the purchase price makes little sense. "Cheap" is not necessarily a virtue when you're talking about tools.
Your statement about Apple's sales is less and less true every day. Look at the trends.
Apple does not force you to buy their display. Feel free to plug in your ugly Dell.
I think that Apple's recent success all by itself refutes most of what you are saying.
We do not know the sample rate of either the GPS or the radar gun involved. Ooes the GPS data show speed or just distance, and the speed is calculated? If the GPS indicates speed, how is it calculated, based on how many samples? If there is a hill involved, does the GPS show actual ground speed, or projected map speed? If you are going up or down a steep hill, there could be a significant difference between ground speed and projected speed. Clearly the radar gun is measuring ground speed. Without answers to these questions, it's all just speculation.
Neither Microsoft nor Nick will be going down that path. As soon as Microsoft whips out one of its patents, the free software zealots will gang up to kill it. Microsoft knows this, this is why they aren't actually filing any lawsuits, despite the fact that their claims are diminished for each day that they wait. Parent poster is correct, this is a FUD ploy.
with your criticism. This guy is sharing his observations with us. The fact of the matter is that this guy is squeezed. He has no budget for ramping up or internships or anything like that. His business is cut to the bone so he must hire a team of proven sluggers to get things done now. It's not his fault, it's a symptom of what's happening in the economy.
If you think that flaming at him will solve any of the problems you mention, you are mistaken. You would do much better to find some way to understand his predicament and maybe try to help him to steer things in a more positive direction.
People are very quick to confuse inbred and conditioned behavior, because it can be hard to distinguish.
Calling a behavior inbred is usually a cop-out: if it's inbred, then we can't do anything about it, so we can stop thinking logically about it and just attribute it to bad human wiring. It's the lazy person's way to end an argument.
I suggest to you, that someone who has been brought up in an environment where trust is treated like the complex subject that it is, will do better than someone brought up in an environment filled with deceit and denial.
Big airplanes have the most crazy wiring you could imagine. They build up and test the harness outside of the plane, and then they pull it into place, like your brother-in law did with his Volkswagen bus. Every wire has to be perfect. There are heart-wrenching stories of what happens when they are not. Wiring is a subject that aircraft companies just dread dealing with. You'd think they'd be motivated to get it right; problems are very bad for business. The threat of lawsuits usually doesn't stop them from switching to the right thing, what's different here?
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Microsoft could be competing with the aluminum smelters as our largest consumer of electricity. It's nice to see that they are doing their part to keep things exciting in the foreign energy market.
Why are you complaining? If Java "just works" then you should be able to run your app just as well on a linux box. Your nifty new mac will run linux very well in VMware. If your are so damned motivated to run a Java 6 app on your mac, then you won't mind doing a little extra work. What is this Java 6 application that you absolutely must run, anyway?
Dude, I work with Java all the time. Some vendors are having a tough enough time supporting Java 5. Java is very important, but it takes development effort to do a good port, and Apple has been very busy lately. Face it, there are not a lot of Java 6 apps. If you really have to run one, get a Linux box, or run one in VMware.
Like I said, it's in Fedora 8, which is shipping any day now. If OSX actually had dedicated java developers, they'd be all over this, and they'd have their JDK just about ready, too. You don't have to be a developer to help out with a port. If you can run java programs and fill out good bug reports, then you can be a big help. If OSX supposedly has so many dedicated users, they should be able to pull this off in a snap! If RedHat can do it...
The Java complainers on OSX should STFU. Sun's released the JDK source, Redhat is putting it in Fedora 8. The Java complainers can make their own JDK for OSX. But then they wouldn't be able to whine at Apple any more.
Exactly. This is the effect of free software: it raises the bar. Commercial software can exist above the bar, but not below it. When the bar is raised high enough, the free package becomes "good enough". The price of hardware is falling to the point where the Microsoft license costs more than the rest of the computer combined, and that's when the "good enough" option becomes compelling.
This is the Internet equivalent of having a 'Kick Me' sign stuck to your back.
Doubleclick and others put tiny images on many web pages so they see your cookie no matter where you go.
If I have to buy a license for each instance, it's going to get expensive fast.
Is the license for instance copies, or running instances? How about suspended instances? Do they count? What if I copy an instance and it's running in two places at once? Even if I suspend one as soon as the second unsuspends? Running a licensed OS in a virtual machine is an exercise in ambiguity.
Right now there's only one version of OSX that will support this, so that's not interesting.
Just about anything you can do on an OSX server, you can do faster, cheaper, etc. on a Linux server. Different story on the desktop, I'm not going there.
I said 'hackers', Any scheme like that WILL be hacked. Maybe I need to be more obvious.
You think I'm not serious? They say the virtual machines will only run on Apple hardware. How are they going to enforce that?
In the story John Walsh says that virtual machines are more important in Windows. It's just as important with Linux. Much commercial Linux software requires a distribution that you probably don't want to run on your machine. With virtualization, it's no problem.
It's not clear to me what problem is being solved by having virtual OSX.
Is that what this means? The hackers are drooling already.
By keeping the source closed, he is in fact assuming all responsibility for the actions of his code. If his code allows something bad to happen, we can say with certainty that it's all his fault.
Ironically enough, rms got the idea for free software when he couldn't get at the source code to the printer in his lab.
I do agree with you, though. You can think of the blob as some microcode for controlling the hardware. It could have been integrated into the hardware, but it would be slower and harder to work with. If it were in the hardware, nobody would be clamoring for its source. If we are really paranoid about drivers, perhaps they too could be boxed-in like SELinux does with applications.
Given that the wireless radio must be constrained differently in different countries, and the regulatory agencies of said countries don't want people to muck with certain radio settings, you can put all those constraints in hardware, which seems like it would be difficult to maintain, or you can do it in a binary blob.
Funny, I googled for ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE on ubuntu.com and I find all kinds of places where they tell you to turn it on.
The comment in the file is misleading (there are other problems!), which is a bug all by itself. Just because it's not the default doesn't mean that people don't do it. Doesn't it say somewhere, "If you have a laptop, set ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE"?
It is Entirely Accurate that this is a Bug.
When you look at all the time and effort you are going to expend on your computer in its lifetime, quibbling over a few dollars on the purchase price makes little sense. "Cheap" is not necessarily a virtue when you're talking about tools.
Your statement about Apple's sales is less and less true every day. Look at the trends.
Apple does not force you to buy their display. Feel free to plug in your ugly Dell.
I think that Apple's recent success all by itself refutes most of what you are saying.
In other news, Milli Vanilli sold one album last week, outselling all the freely downloadable music by an infinite margin.
We do not know the sample rate of either the GPS or the radar gun involved. Ooes the GPS data show speed or just distance, and the speed is calculated? If the GPS indicates speed, how is it calculated, based on how many samples? If there is a hill involved, does the GPS show actual ground speed, or projected map speed? If you are going up or down a steep hill, there could be a significant difference between ground speed and projected speed. Clearly the radar gun is measuring ground speed. Without answers to these questions, it's all just speculation.
And another thing, these machines will be distributed where US patent laws do not apply, so Nick can tell Bill to pound sand.
Neither Microsoft nor Nick will be going down that path. As soon as Microsoft whips out one of its patents, the free software zealots will gang up to kill it. Microsoft knows this, this is why they aren't actually filing any lawsuits, despite the fact that their claims are diminished for each day that they wait. Parent poster is correct, this is a FUD ploy.
Bill Nye was an engineer at Boeing when he decided to go for comedy. He was hilarious on the short lived Seattle comedy show "Almost Live".
with your criticism. This guy is sharing his observations with us. The fact of the matter is that this guy is squeezed. He has no budget for ramping up or internships or anything like that. His business is cut to the bone so he must hire a team of proven sluggers to get things done now. It's not his fault, it's a symptom of what's happening in the economy.
If you think that flaming at him will solve any of the problems you mention, you are mistaken. You would do much better to find some way to understand his predicament and maybe try to help him to steer things in a more positive direction.
People are very quick to confuse inbred and conditioned behavior, because it can be hard to distinguish.
Calling a behavior inbred is usually a cop-out: if it's inbred, then we can't do anything about it, so we can stop thinking logically about it and just attribute it to bad human wiring. It's the lazy person's way to end an argument.
I suggest to you, that someone who has been brought up in an environment where trust is treated like the complex subject that it is, will do better than someone brought up in an environment filled with deceit and denial.
Big airplanes have the most crazy wiring you could imagine. They build up and test the harness outside of the plane, and then they pull it into place, like your brother-in law did with his Volkswagen bus. Every wire has to be perfect. There are heart-wrenching stories of what happens when they are not. Wiring is a subject that aircraft companies just dread dealing with. You'd think they'd be motivated to get it right; problems are very bad for business. The threat of lawsuits usually doesn't stop them from switching to the right thing, what's different here?