So, as far as I can make out, you seem to be claiming that VW released a car designed to be unreliable and break down, so they can make money on repairs?
You've never worked on VW beetle, have you? They were designed to be as cheap and flimsy as possible. And with the poor oil flow to the valves, the Beetles were also DESIGNED to be unreliable. Do you hear that chirping sound from a VW beetle's exhaust? That sound is the valves grinding themselves away.
If they "fix" the cars to make them meet the standards
They will probably run like the old diesel rabbits that they sold back in the 1980s. My boss had one and it literally would not make it up the hill with a full load of passengers. We got out and pushed.
So, as far as I can make out, you seem to be claiming that VW released a car designed to be unreliable and break down, so they can make money on repairs?
that's one reason
another is that they tested the car with focus groups and the come-back was "it needs more power" and it is cheaper to fudge the software than it is to design a new engine
most European standards are STRICTER than the American ones.
Not for diesels, which is what we are talking about here. In this case the American standards are stricter. You have to pull out some massive engineering mojo to make a diesel passenger car that's street legal in the US. Apparently VW doesn't have what it takes.
I think I heard somewhere that this year they had finally surpassed Toyota as the largest car manufacturer in the world. This was supposed to have been a pretty good year for them.
They achived this through acquisitions, they aren't really making that many more cars. For example you are also counting Lamborghinis and Bentleys and Ducati motorcycles in your total.
"normal mode" is a lie, it's a fiction invented by a software developer, probably with the cooperation of higher-ups in order to sell a car that is not what it appears to be.
No, if they added 23% to their market cap, then gave that to the government, the government would own 18.7% of the company (23%/123% of the old market cap).
yeah, as if the stock value will remain the same after this
In what sense are they 'running outside of their design envelope'?
Higher performance means higher internal engine stresses. Bearings, rings, seals, timing chains, etc. are subjected to higher stresses and fail sooner.
Are you saying that this isn't an intentional piece of code
No. Get a clue: VW has more than one employee. The CEO does not mind-meld with the software developers.
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So, as far as I can make out, you seem to be claiming that VW released a car designed to be unreliable and break down, so they can make money on repairs?
You've never worked on VW beetle, have you? They were designed to be as cheap and flimsy as possible. And with the poor oil flow to the valves, the Beetles were also DESIGNED to be unreliable. Do you hear that chirping sound from a VW beetle's exhaust? That sound is the valves grinding themselves away.
This shows the foolhardiness of trying to legislate clean air. Alternative energy sources is the only real cure
So you are callling for legislative action in the form of tax breaks in order to make alternative energy more affordable?
If they "fix" the cars to make them meet the standards
They will probably run like the old diesel rabbits that they sold back in the 1980s. My boss had one and it literally would not make it up the hill with a full load of passengers. We got out and pushed.
So, as far as I can make out, you seem to be claiming that VW released a car designed to be unreliable and break down, so they can make money on repairs?
that's one reason
another is that they tested the car with focus groups and the come-back was "it needs more power" and it is cheaper to fudge the software than it is to design a new engine
Which law makes them not street legal?
emissions control laws, lots and lots of them
most European standards are STRICTER than the American ones.
Not for diesels, which is what we are talking about here. In this case the American standards are stricter. You have to pull out some massive engineering mojo to make a diesel passenger car that's street legal in the US. Apparently VW doesn't have what it takes.
What CRIMINAL FRAUD?
people were sold automobiles that were claimed to be street legal, but they are not.
So why do you think VW would release a car that doesn't run the way it's designed to run?
$$$
or
DM DM DM
as the case may be.
I think I heard somewhere that this year they had finally surpassed Toyota as the largest car manufacturer in the world. This was supposed to have been a pretty good year for them.
They achived this through acquisitions, they aren't really making that many more cars. For example you are also counting Lamborghinis and Bentleys and Ducati motorcycles in your total.
"normal mode" is a lie, it's a fiction invented by a software developer, probably with the cooperation of higher-ups in order to sell a car that is not what it appears to be.
Is there actually any law saying they can't run the car in a special 'test mode' when being tested? Or is this just Greenie butthurt feelbads?
With the really massive case of CRIMINAL FRAUD we are talking about here, that seems almost irrelevant.
No, if they added 23% to their market cap, then gave that to the government, the government would own 18.7% of the company (23%/123% of the old market cap).
yeah, as if the stock value will remain the same after this
In what sense are they 'running outside of their design envelope'?
Higher performance means higher internal engine stresses. Bearings, rings, seals, timing chains, etc. are subjected to higher stresses and fail sooner.
Are you saying that this isn't an intentional piece of code
No. Get a clue: VW has more than one employee. The CEO does not mind-meld with the software developers.
Ripped off by getting better performance than they would have if the emissions controls were in 'test mode' all the time?
ripped off by having engines that are running outside of their design envelope, with premature part failures and lower reliability
Texas could solve their problem by connecting their grid to the rest of the country that they supposedly belong to.
In general, consumers rely on price to accurately reflect production cost.
nope, consumers don't know and don't care about production cost. Why? Because it doesn't matter.
moving the price to ever more accurately reflect costs.
nope, because not everyone has the same costs
If you turned your computer off now, and never turned it on again, would you notice any ill-effects?
sudden, immediate, and complete loss of all income, but otherwise no
The only time they're free is when due to ignorance
precisely backwards, a free market means that everyone knows everything about the products
Sure, there's always a slight risk, but it's one I'd be willing to take.
Sadly society does not leave its citizens to die in the gutter, so in the end WE pay for you and your stupidity
That is how the free market is supposed to work.
"supposed" is the operative word here because "free market" is a fiction
it sounds to me like we aren't dealing with a free market here.
there is no such thing as a "free market" so this is not surprising
That is why you do automated regression testing.
You don't just "do automated regression testing" Someone has to actually write the regression tests
I'd ALWAYS rather use a USB keyboard and mouse to a touch screen or touch pad.
even when you are on the subway?
which is prima facie evidence that even HE doesn't really believe in "global warming".
perhaps he wanted to make his own measurements of the rising sea levels
It's not a crime to be wrong.
perhaps you might not be aware of the concept of "fraud"