I have IIS running right now. At work we have a half-dozen IIS boxes. None of these are in Netcraft. A internet worm does not care about Netcraft.
And I have several apache boxes running on networks not exposed to the internet. I must say the people calling windows 90% of the desktop (I personally think it is lower) and blaming that for all the worms/virii is just as stupid as stating that a published statistic (of webservers on the internet with domain names, because otherwise they are just http servers and not web servers (remember the whole world wide web idea?) (and if running IIS, likely insecure ones, even by Microsoft's own standards: did you run through the official Microsoft 300+ item list before connecting them to a network?))
This argument is just not valid. Windows simply is insecure, and it's users are part of the problem, but they aren't really the root.
How long has linux existed, and how many worms have there been? Or applications: 2 apache worms or so? and apache is by sheer numbers, what? 60% or more of the webservers on the internet. (lets assume there are actually a dozen apache worms since 1992, if there are even that many, that's one a year.) How many IIS worms are there?
How many worms have been able to break into the kernel itself? Oh, given the couple of kernel bugs, it was possible, but they were all local exploits. Which requires the code to be run on the system as opposed to things like the
Classic MacOS had some virii for it, but compare the length of time it had been out (and how it was the GUI computer for quite a while) 16 years or so (1984-2000) Over that time, there were probably less virii for it than windows 98 got in the first year. (Probably partly because as an OS it was one of the dumbest in terms of networking, you couldn't do anything with it.)
MacOS X has been out for around for 4, and the number of worms is comparable to those for Linux, as in almost nothing.
I expect when Longhorn comes out, there will again be another torrent of worms. But maybe Microsoft may be getting it together with regards to security. They did a pretty good job of stability with 2000, but backslid on XP.
Even if Linux/KDE became as dominant as dominant as Windows is now, the problem wouldn't be nearly as bad. You see, Linux distributions (almost all? and the people who aren't should know what they are doing) use package management. This means that instead of running an installer for program a, b, c off of cds or the internet, they use packages provided by people who they can check cryptographic signatures of automatically, for example with rpm. Now, that's not perfect, and you don't have to have that, but it gets people into a method of expecting part of it to come from a trusted source (eg gentoo which provides md5sums of all the packages downloaded. or rpm which allows both server and developer signatures last I looked.) The distribution is EXPECTED to provide this, and if they don't either the user doesn't know enough to get it, and askes someone else for help, or knows enough to figure out that www.warez-cracks-hijacking-your-game.com is not a good site to get things from.
Speaking as the first person to get mplayer running on the SL-5500, it will very likely surpass the abilities of other players, because linux and mplayer is a very efficient solution. (320x240 mpeg4-type video with mp3 audio worked well enough on a 206MHz, and I suspect that if they improved the audio output (the 5500 ONLY allowed for 44.1kHz, with resulting need to upsample often, taking valuable cpu) then it will probably play 640x480 with lower bitrates (and frankly would you even notice if it was scaled up from high-bitrate 320x240 (or 480x360) assuming the hardware scaling is any good?
Actually the A300 is one of the oldest Linux based Zauruses. There were the SL-5000D(SL-5500 w/32MB RAM), SL-5500, released in America and then the A300 released in Japan.
Then we get to the B500(Japanese market)/SL-5600(American market, essentially the same thing) and then the c-7xx series (the flip ones, with 640x480 resolution)
Finally, we get the SL6000 which can even have networking built-in (this is a good thing, frees up the CF slot), and.... IT'S GOT A USB HOST ON IT! (Something I have been looking for, and just noticed in the article.:) )
It's not really the real tree-huggers (they would probably be fine with that, if many weren't members of the group of people who react to "nuclear" with a "Oh-my-god-were-going-to-die!" attitude (and that is not at all just "tree-huggers"!) (of course, actually seeing what Pacific Lumber does, you can understand them.)
Look at how people react to water pumping stations, landfills, or other infrastructure near them. Of course the potential for screwing up is there.
But yeah I agree that there is far too much of a knee-jerk reaction.
There is a danger, but it isn't from the radiation. It's from the drops hitting space craft.
Going at a large velocity a 3inch diameter sphere of coolant will do some damage (possibly quite serious), and that's what has people worried. It certainly has the potential to change the orbit of one of the smaller satellites.
> What message do you honestly think you're sending by intensely scrutinizing them when they sit at a computer?
That they'd better be careful? That if they do anything wrong you'll take corrective actions?
What message do you send the child (remember, these are *children*) by NOT watching them? That anything they do is okay?
That you trust their judgement/skills.
You don't put training wheels on a bike until the child is an adult. Just until they are good enough, then they will inevitably fall and get hurt. You watch your kids play in the playground/park/other area for a while, then eventually you let them go there alone (assuming it's nearby, etc.)
Not true, my Dlink DI-514 can do this (look at the web config Advanced->Filters->IP Filters) and it was $30 (after rebate). Look beyond the basics and many will have features like this. (You do go through and check the settings of what you connect to the internet don't you?)
The fact that the Windows(TM) Trademark should not have been granted in the first place? Windows was and is a generic term in computers. Now if it were the whole of Microsoft Windows(TM) I wouldn't mind. Anderson Windows for example, has a better claim to Windows as a trademark.
Hey if Windows(TM) can be trademarked, then Lindows, sure a hell outta be trademarkable, it isn't even a generic term!
Now, Microsoft has an interesting case in other countries, because they don't speak English, so Windows doesn't have the same meaning there (Wonder why they are going after Lindows there?). I would not be at all suprised if Microsoft loses their trademark to Windows. (not to mention the anti-competitive regulator's hackle's it's raising with these suits.)
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When was SCO ever a recognized brand? or are you refering to Caldera?
Speaking as someone with a 160GB drive hooked to an ATA-100, you are quite wrong.
The 128GB limit is a limit due to the addressing (just like the 2.1GB, 8.4GB (among others) were.) The hardware can handle it, it's just the addressing.
You do realize that ATA-133 has essentially 0 advantage over ATA-100 don't you. A 7200 rpm drive might make 40-45 MB/sec tops, and doubling that for a 15k rpm (though the highest I have seen for IDE or SATA is 10k) still less than the 100MB provided by ATA-100 & honestly is anyone going to be using a 15k new drive and not be using scsi or sata?
According to the specs it is a 7200rpm which will not benefit from ATA-133 over ATA-100
It really is a copyright licence. It is not a copy-use licence, as are EULAs. Now honestly, You can do anything (non-illegal) with your one copy of a GPL program (fair use) Rewrite it, use it, etc.
The GPL does not matter until you get into something copyright law prohibits: distribution of copies. In this case you can 1) accept the GPL and distribute copies (with or without modification) OR 2) regect the GPL and also lose the right to distribute (unless you negotiate a licence with another company). Other than that you really don't even have to accept it (you can modify it all you want (permitted by 1) fair use, 2) GPL))
If it says that you must accept the EULA on the outside of the box, then it's an issue.
True, and this just reinforces my point: many oss developers aren't doing it to improve some corperation's efficiency.
There are those of both oss & religious persuasion who do it to improve the corperation / increase the numbers of converts, but if you believe in either, they just help your cause (more corperations = more oss people, more converts = more saved souls)
The campaign against SCO still holds the #1 spot on litigious bastards of course google removed the actual sco site from the top, but the 1st one still says SCO!
Actually it doesn't. (Ok, it does in the air, but I still can usually do decently when I have tried it as an experement) On a surface it becomes the best optical cordless mouse I have used (every other one either skips or the precision sucks)
Of course for $80 (+keyboard & reciever) I better get a damned good mouse (honestly the best I have come across to date.)
Mods on crack: this doesn't help with what the parent is talking about.
If there is a bug in the code, then using binaries is most certainly not helping. Not to mention IF the person is FIXING the bugs, the binary does almost NO good.
Now admittedly debian may use non-standard patches to fix some things (what distro doesn't? LFS...maybe) and not have a certain problem, but that should be sent upstream, which it is most likely what colinleroy is doing.
Enabling christianity to increase their numbers by.0005% is not in any way a noble endeavour.
Not that she didn't help lots of people, or just preaching christianity, without actually helping. (many christians & free software/oss people should take note: help not just preach!). The grandparent seemed to imply that she did it for no reason other than the goodness of her heart, but the reason was the same as the free software people: make the world a better place according to their ideology, and if you call that goodness of people's hearts, then all the better.
Just as people who code for money aren't mostly in it for money, but to actually make their lives better.
I happen to believe that my contributions (small though they mostly are) will help people, because I like doing it, and several of the things I wrote anyway to help with administering a network, so why NOT help anyone else who needs a similar tool and let other people help me?
I have heard a rumor of a virus I heard called "911" which was for windows (not a suprise) which spread via email (relying on stupid users) & SMB shares (with a nasty expliot for the time & microsoft didn't fix for a long time (if they have it would only be 2000 & XP, as this is one of the flaws that microsoft doesn't dare touch (would have broke networking badly on 98 & NT))) which would do several things: 1) replicate itself & repeat for a while (think a couple of days) 2) format all drives starting with lowest one (while some virii only hit c: this hit everything) displaying a message that it was doing it while it was 3) call 911 just before the computer died.
Fortunately, this was only spotted on a couple of virus-writer lists, AFAIK. I seem to recall one more action attributed to it, but can't recall.
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And I have several apache boxes running on networks not exposed to the internet. I must say the people calling windows 90% of the desktop (I personally think it is lower) and blaming that for all the worms/virii is just as stupid as stating that a published statistic (of webservers on the internet with domain names, because otherwise they are just http servers and not web servers (remember the whole world wide web idea?) (and if running IIS, likely insecure ones, even by Microsoft's own standards: did you run through the official Microsoft 300+ item list before connecting them to a network?))
How long has linux existed, and how many worms have there been? Or applications: 2 apache worms or so? and apache is by sheer numbers, what? 60% or more of the webservers on the internet. (lets assume there are actually a dozen apache worms since 1992, if there are even that many, that's one a year.) How many IIS worms are there?
How many worms have been able to break into the kernel itself? Oh, given the couple of kernel bugs, it was possible, but they were all local exploits. Which requires the code to be run on the system as opposed to things like the Classic MacOS had some virii for it, but compare the length of time it had been out (and how it was the GUI computer for quite a while) 16 years or so (1984-2000) Over that time, there were probably less virii for it than windows 98 got in the first year. (Probably partly because as an OS it was one of the dumbest in terms of networking, you couldn't do anything with it.)
MacOS X has been out for around for 4, and the number of worms is comparable to those for Linux, as in almost nothing.
I expect when Longhorn comes out, there will again be another torrent of worms. But maybe Microsoft may be getting it together with regards to security. They did a pretty good job of stability with 2000, but backslid on XP.
Even if Linux/KDE became as dominant as dominant as Windows is now, the problem wouldn't be nearly as bad. You see, Linux distributions (almost all? and the people who aren't should know what they are doing) use package management. This means that instead of running an installer for program a, b, c off of cds or the internet, they use packages provided by people who they can check cryptographic signatures of automatically, for example with rpm. Now, that's not perfect, and you don't have to have that, but it gets people into a method of expecting part of it to come from a trusted source (eg gentoo which provides md5sums of all the packages downloaded. or rpm which allows both server and developer signatures last I looked.) The distribution is EXPECTED to provide this, and if they don't either the user doesn't know enough to get it, and askes someone else for help, or knows enough to figure out that www.warez-cracks-hijacking-your-game.com is not a good site to get things from.
I haven't tried it yet. However, one guy did it: http://www.lesterboal.net/~pboal/zaurus/
Speaking as the first person to get mplayer running on the SL-5500, it will very likely surpass the abilities of other players, because linux and mplayer is a very efficient solution. (320x240 mpeg4-type video with mp3 audio worked well enough on a 206MHz, and I suspect that if they improved the audio output (the 5500 ONLY allowed for 44.1kHz, with resulting need to upsample often, taking valuable cpu) then it will probably play 640x480 with lower bitrates (and frankly would you even notice if it was scaled up from high-bitrate 320x240 (or 480x360) assuming the hardware scaling is any good?
Then we get to the B500(Japanese market)/SL-5600(American market, essentially the same thing) and then the c-7xx series (the flip ones, with 640x480 resolution)
Finally, we get the SL6000 which can even have networking built-in (this is a good thing, frees up the CF slot), and .... IT'S GOT A USB HOST ON IT! (Something I have been looking for, and just noticed in the article. :) )
Look at how people react to water pumping stations, landfills, or other infrastructure near them. Of course the potential for screwing up is there.
But yeah I agree that there is far too much of a knee-jerk reaction.
Going at a large velocity a 3inch diameter sphere of coolant will do some damage (possibly quite serious), and that's what has people worried. It certainly has the potential to change the orbit of one of the smaller satellites.
That they'd better be careful? That if they do anything wrong you'll take corrective actions?
What message do you send the child (remember, these are *children*) by NOT watching them? That anything they do is okay?
That you trust their judgement/skills.
You don't put training wheels on a bike until the child is an adult. Just until they are good enough, then they will inevitably fall and get hurt. You watch your kids play in the playground/park/other area for a while, then eventually you let them go there alone (assuming it's nearby, etc.)
Nazi, ... thread finished. :)
Not true, my Dlink DI-514 can do this (look at the web config Advanced->Filters->IP Filters) and it was $30 (after rebate). Look beyond the basics and many will have features like this. (You do go through and check the settings of what you connect to the internet don't you?)
Hey if Windows(TM) can be trademarked, then Lindows, sure a hell outta be trademarkable, it isn't even a generic term!
Now, Microsoft has an interesting case in other countries, because they don't speak English, so Windows doesn't have the same meaning there (Wonder why they are going after Lindows there?). I would not be at all suprised if Microsoft loses their trademark to Windows. (not to mention the anti-competitive regulator's hackle's it's raising with these suits.)
When was SCO ever a recognized brand? or are you refering to Caldera?
The 128GB limit is a limit due to the addressing (just like the 2.1GB, 8.4GB (among others) were.) The hardware can handle it, it's just the addressing.
According to the specs it is a 7200rpm which will not benefit from ATA-133 over ATA-100
The GPL does not matter until you get into something copyright law prohibits: distribution of copies. In this case you can 1) accept the GPL and distribute copies (with or without modification) OR 2) regect the GPL and also lose the right to distribute (unless you negotiate a licence with another company). Other than that you really don't even have to accept it (you can modify it all you want (permitted by 1) fair use, 2) GPL))
If it says that you must accept the EULA on the outside of the box, then it's an issue.
You work for sprint?
My guess is BAD.
Maybe I should get a sig: sick of people being jelous because gentoo's packagemanagement system is better?
love the sig :)
There are those of both oss & religious persuasion who do it to improve the corperation / increase the numbers of converts, but if you believe in either, they just help your cause (more corperations = more oss people, more converts = more saved souls)
The campaign against SCO still holds the #1 spot on litigious bastards of course google removed the actual sco site from the top, but the 1st one still says SCO!
Of course for $80 (+keyboard & reciever) I better get a damned good mouse (honestly the best I have come across to date.)
If there is a bug in the code, then using binaries is most certainly not helping. Not to mention IF the person is FIXING the bugs, the binary does almost NO good.
Now admittedly debian may use non-standard patches to fix some things (what distro doesn't? LFS...maybe) and not have a certain problem, but that should be sent upstream, which it is most likely what colinleroy is doing.
Not that she didn't help lots of people, or just preaching christianity, without actually helping. (many christians & free software/oss people should take note: help not just preach!). The grandparent seemed to imply that she did it for no reason other than the goodness of her heart, but the reason was the same as the free software people: make the world a better place according to their ideology, and if you call that goodness of people's hearts, then all the better.
Just as people who code for money aren't mostly in it for money, but to actually make their lives better.
I happen to believe that my contributions (small though they mostly are) will help people, because I like doing it, and several of the things I wrote anyway to help with administering a network, so why NOT help anyone else who needs a similar tool and let other people help me?
1) replicate itself & repeat for a while (think a couple of days)
2) format all drives starting with lowest one (while some virii only hit c: this hit everything) displaying a message that it was doing it while it was
3) call 911 just before the computer died.
Fortunately, this was only spotted on a couple of virus-writer lists, AFAIK. I seem to recall one more action attributed to it, but can't recall.