That looks like the kind of thing the network wizards in this world would knock up support for in an afternoon, after all, we have ethernet, we have PPP: just a matter of pointing pppd at something other than/dev/cua0 (but probably more complex than/dev/eth0, bah) --
Seems fine to me. Activestate will be doing it, not MS, and the results will be released under the Artistic Licence. Perl will prosper. Note that Larry Wall himself did a fair amount of work making Java play nice with NT -- O'Reilly paid for that; and nobody complained then. The only danger I can see here is a glut of Perl scripts that don't run under non-Windows environments -- but it's already perfectly possible to write Perl scripts that call C functions from Windows DLLs (don't ask me how; I skipped past it in comp.lang.perl.misc) --
(on my category of unsigned artists publishing MP3s to the 'net) The point is that _most_ of those artists that fit your category suck. Sure. Most CDs stink too, but we have a reviews system (magazines, radio, etc) which feeds us recommendations.
I can't currently sort the wheat from the chaff on, say, MP3.com -- but hopefully one day, someone like John Peel (look him up on Everything) will do that sorting for me, and play the results on the radio. --
I can't recall hearing any artists complain about mp3 (enlighten if you know different)
'K. There was a conference a couple of months ago, where, um, the Corrs, Robbie Williams, and some others I think, "spoke out" on internet music piracy.
Record company pawns, the lot of 'em, of course. I didn't see Mark E Smith among them.... --
I reckon they're well within their rights; they can distribute CDs with whatever copy protection they choose, and we should respect the licence under which they choose to distribute the music.
In turn, we can choose not to buy their CDs, because we are not happy with the licence -- and instead listen to those artists who realise they no longer need major record labels in order to reach an audience, but who publish straight to the net.
I'm looking forward to the day when alternative music radio DJs (i.e. the ones who aren't already part of the Sony/Warner/whatever hype machine) start discovering legal MP3s on the net, playing them on the radio, and paying the artists royalties. --
Hrm, they missed the opportunity to mention the episode of Friends where Ross gets Rachel to dress up as Princess Leia in her gold bikini.... Oh, so it's not OK to obsess about Friends? --
It's slightly worriesome that SGI haven't decided on a licence, even though the piece says it'll certainly be Open Source. If we need a journalled FS (I guess we do), then we need a GPLd journalled FS. How's this going to be implemented? If it's a kernel patch, then correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it *have* to be GPL? I guess if it's only a module, it can be any licence, right? --
Linus doesn't have to approve *anything* -- unless it's going to be part of the kernel, and even then the GPL allows anyone to start distributing a forked version of the kernel, without consulting Linus, as long as that too is released under the GPL. See the top level post I am about to make, discussing this and the GPL. --
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"Just" utilities? Utilities like Bash and ls? Look carefully, and you'll realise that GNU is a lot of what you love about Linux. BTW, I think the "GNU Inside" logo is a brilliant idea. Perhaps it needs rewording, to avoid the blatant Intel "tribute". --
Hrm, the problem there is that an ATM can know (to some level of trustworthiness) that the data it's getting really is from an eye scanner. If the data's coming off the net, who knows - it might be coming off a hard disk, grabbed from a sniffer, or anywhere.... If your password gets compromised, you can change it.... how do you change your eyes?
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I think most of us understand why a company would want to avoid GPL'd code. But that's just their tough luck. This "company X" can take BSD code, for NOTHING, make their proprietary changes, then treat the result as a proprietary whole. Now, maybe the BSD guys are happy to have other people profiting from their hard work, but if it was *my* code, I'd want something in return. With GPL code, if company X wants to distribute their derivative work, they have to give their modifications back to the community - and that's where the original authors get their "something in return". I personally think the world is a better place for all the free software floating around. GPL's virality promotes more free software, which can only be a good think, as far as I'm concerned. --
Hate to be a pedant (OK, if you must, I love it)... but sending a disk/tape/whatever through the mail is just as much "bandwidth" as shunting the data down a wire is.
In fact, a lorry full of tapes has far better bandwidth than a T1 line. The Latency sucks though:P --
I don't believe there is a free implementation, but the specs are there, so anyone can have a stab at it (hope they do). There are several commercial implementations of the client. --
Jeez, this article makes *me* feel old, and I'm only 25.
Where's Don Knuth (*the* book on programming *and* TeX, how cool is htat?) ?
Leslie Lampton? (LaTeX, sure, but he also invented the Lampton Clock, and much more)
Marvin Minski.
Fred Brooks (mebbe he was wrong in places, but he certainly laid foundations).
Computer people *need* to know their history, so we can avoid repeating mistakes (and we can realise that some of the ideas we abandoned weren't mistakes after all [muttering about terminals])
There is no connection between having a gun and shooting someone, and not having a gun and not shooting someone, any you'd be a fool and a communist to think so", by someone or other whos name i forgot, died last year i think.
Ah, the genius of Bill Hicks. There was great wisdom in his gun control sketch. --
On the radio this morning I heard an interview with ted bundy, and he said that he, and everybody in prision with him who had commited murder where addicited to pornography.
REALLY!?!
For christ's sakes, if I was in jail for a life sentence, then I'd want all the porn I could get my hands on. No big surprises there. --
No, without access to guns they would have blown it up or burnt it down, and far more people would have died.
Good point. And without access to guns *or* bombs, they might have used a nuke. So for the safety of everyone, maybe there should be bomb shops on every street corner. Mebbe the government should subsidise them, make the bombs nice and cheap... --
Yeah yeah I know... "Back in MY day..." but it's true! Mindstorms let you do it easier but then again isn't that what Visual Basic is supposed to do too?
Erm, that's what VB's supposed to do.. but it's also what (Perl|Python|TCL) [your choice] actually do (moving away from the world of Lego here, you understand). --
The article said it would be able to run games written for Windows CE. What the heck? Does it really take a high-powered game machine to do that?
Eh? What? Pardon?
What on *earth* has the OS to do with the power of the machine underneath? Just because my Pentium II plays terminal tetris, it doesn't mean my 386 can play Quake II -- yet *oooh* they're both running the same OS.
I really want a Dreamcast -- because Capcom's Power Stone looks awesome. But then I really want a PS2 as well. And a Vectrex:) -- hell, I'll just get 'em all in the fullness of time. --
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However, blaming the Apache benchmark CGI is no excuse -- no user level process should be able to induce a kernel panic.
I'm certain Apple will fix this quick-smart, though; probably a stack filling up or something.
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Hrm... PPP. Over. Ethernet.
/dev/cua0 (but probably more complex than /dev/eth0, bah)
That looks like the kind of thing the network wizards in this world would knock up support for in an afternoon, after all, we have ethernet, we have PPP: just a matter of pointing pppd at something other than
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Which is a shame, for those of us forced to read our mail in a Win32 app part-supported by Wine.
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Perl isn't under the GPL. It's bad to assume things are GPL'd, in case they're not. See also mySQL...
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Seems fine to me. Activestate will be doing it, not MS, and the results will be released under the Artistic Licence. Perl will prosper.
Note that Larry Wall himself did a fair amount of work making Java play nice with NT -- O'Reilly paid for that; and nobody complained then.
The only danger I can see here is a glut of Perl scripts that don't run under non-Windows environments -- but it's already perfectly possible to write Perl scripts that call C functions from Windows DLLs (don't ask me how; I skipped past it in comp.lang.perl.misc)
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The point is that _most_ of those artists that fit your category suck.
Sure. Most CDs stink too, but we have a reviews system (magazines, radio, etc) which feeds us recommendations.
I can't currently sort the wheat from the chaff on, say, MP3.com -- but hopefully one day, someone like John Peel (look him up on Everything) will do that sorting for me, and play the results on the radio.
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'K. There was a conference a couple of months ago, where, um, the Corrs, Robbie Williams, and some others I think, "spoke out" on internet music piracy.
Record company pawns, the lot of 'em, of course.
I didn't see Mark E Smith among them....
--
In turn, we can choose not to buy their CDs, because we are not happy with the licence -- and instead listen to those artists who realise they no longer need major record labels in order to reach an audience, but who publish straight to the net.
I'm looking forward to the day when alternative music radio DJs (i.e. the ones who aren't already part of the Sony/Warner/whatever hype machine) start discovering legal MP3s on the net, playing them on the radio, and paying the artists royalties.
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Where do you get that impression? Want sources.
Why on earth *wouldn't* it do TCP/IP?
Personally, all I want is a handheld, wireless telnet client (ahem, with a flat rate tariff), and I'll be happy.
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Hrm, they missed the opportunity to mention the episode of Friends where Ross gets Rachel to dress up as Princess Leia in her gold bikini....
Oh, so it's not OK to obsess about Friends?
--
It's slightly worriesome that SGI haven't decided on a licence, even though the piece says it'll certainly be Open Source.
If we need a journalled FS (I guess we do), then we need a GPLd journalled FS.
How's this going to be implemented? If it's a kernel patch, then correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it *have* to be GPL?
I guess if it's only a module, it can be any licence, right?
--
Linus doesn't have to approve *anything* -- unless it's going to be part of the kernel, and even then the GPL allows anyone to start distributing a forked version of the kernel, without consulting Linus, as long as that too is released under the GPL.
See the top level post I am about to make, discussing this and the GPL.
--
"Just" utilities? Utilities like Bash and ls?
Look carefully, and you'll realise that GNU is a lot of what you love about Linux.
BTW, I think the "GNU Inside" logo is a brilliant idea. Perhaps it needs rewording, to avoid the blatant Intel "tribute".
--
Hrm, the problem there is that an ATM can know (to some level of trustworthiness) that the data it's getting really is from an eye scanner.
If the data's coming off the net, who knows - it might be coming off a hard disk, grabbed from a sniffer, or anywhere....
If your password gets compromised, you can change it.... how do you change your eyes?
--
I think most of us understand why a company would want to avoid GPL'd code.
But that's just their tough luck. This "company X" can take BSD code, for NOTHING, make their proprietary changes, then treat the result as a proprietary whole. Now, maybe the BSD guys are happy to have other people profiting from their hard work, but if it was *my* code, I'd want something in return.
With GPL code, if company X wants to distribute their derivative work, they have to give their modifications back to the community - and that's where the original authors get their "something in return".
I personally think the world is a better place for all the free software floating around. GPL's virality promotes more free software, which can only be a good think, as far as I'm concerned.
--
In fact, a lorry full of tapes has far better bandwidth than a T1 line. The Latency sucks though
--
I don't believe there is a free implementation, but the specs are there, so anyone can have a stab at it (hope they do). There are several commercial implementations of the client.
--
Jeez, this article makes *me* feel old, and I'm only 25.
Where's Don Knuth (*the* book on programming *and* TeX, how cool is htat?) ?
Leslie Lampton? (LaTeX, sure, but he also invented the Lampton Clock, and much more)
Marvin Minski.
Fred Brooks (mebbe he was wrong in places, but he certainly laid foundations).
Computer people *need* to know their history, so we can avoid repeating mistakes (and we can realise that some of the ideas we abandoned weren't mistakes after all [muttering about terminals])
--
There is no connection between having a gun and shooting someone, and not having a gun and not shooting someone, any
you'd be a fool and a communist to think so", by someone or other whos name i forgot, died last year i think.
Ah, the genius of Bill Hicks. There was great wisdom in his gun control sketch.
--
On the radio this morning I heard an interview with ted bundy, and he said that he, and everybody in prision with him who had
commited murder where addicited to pornography.
REALLY!?!
For christ's sakes, if I was in jail for a life sentence, then I'd want all the porn I could get my hands on. No big surprises there.
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... yeah, Heroin doesn't kill people, people kill themselves, with heroin.
So why doesn't the US government honour people's inaliable right to bear class A drugs?
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No, without access to guns they would have blown it up or burnt it down, and far more people would have died.
Good point. And without access to guns *or* bombs, they might have used a nuke. So for the safety of everyone, maybe there should be bomb shops on every street corner. Mebbe the government should subsidise them, make the bombs nice and cheap...
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that what Visual Basic is supposed to do too?
Erm, that's what VB's supposed to do..
but it's also what (Perl|Python|TCL) [your choice]
actually do (moving away from the world of
Lego here, you understand).
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to do that?
Eh? What? Pardon?
What on *earth* has the OS to do with the power of the machine underneath? Just because my Pentium II plays terminal tetris, it doesn't mean my 386 can play Quake II -- yet *oooh* they're both running the same OS.
I really want a Dreamcast -- because Capcom's Power Stone looks awesome. But then I really want a PS2 as well. And a Vectrex
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You've said that before... but you've never explained why (anywhere I've seen). Care to enlighten me now?
Ta.
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