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Mycroft-X writes "Here
is a link to a Salon story about the sacrifices fans are making for their Star Wars habit. "
Figured I better post something besides to poll question
to talk about this little movie thing. No, I still haven't
seen it. Damn conferences.
THEY
WERE
ON
A
BREAK!!!!
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
-jafac's law
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
My wife complained about my computer hobby, and about the
time and money I wasted networking the computers at home.
Then she got turned down for a job because she had no
experience setting up a network.
I'm amazed you haven't gotten any flames yet; it must be too
early in the morning!
Some women do "get into the whole SW thing".
My fiance is WAY more hyped about this than I am. At the theatre I saw several women in full Queen Amidala makeup.
But I do see that Leia was the only major female character in the trilogy (Mon Mothma doesn't count). While this is not a major anomaly when there are only four major characters (Luke, Leia, Han, and Darth Vader), I can see how some might find this offensive.
Its *NOT* a few movies.
It's a LIFESTYLE.
*snicker*
I must admit I was very impressed with the film.
Those critics were way off base when attacking
it. Jake Lloyd actually is quite good, and I
really enjoyed all his scenes. Jar Jar is also
not as bad as people make him out to be. Just
get into it and enjoy it.
Camped out in line from Sunday to Wednesday at
the Uptown theatre in D.C.; it was worth it.
It was such a fun time, in this world where
evreyone seems to try to destroy any hint of
people having a good time.
It's Star Wars! woo-hoo!
--- witty signature
It's not an obsession to be nervous about an opponent thats (still) winning.
Amidala's only 14 -- Anakin's 9, IIRC.
Won't matter much in a few years.
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
I used to be in SCA.
I don't think there's a single "mixed marriage" in SCA history. It just doesn't work. Talk about your time-consuming hobbies!
Personally, I loved it. The one Pennsic war I fought in (1994) was the greatest time I ever had. Both me and my wife were there and were fully into the SCA thing, but once we had kids, we had to give it a rest. I know there are lots of people who do SCA with kids, but for us it was just too much. We'll see you again in 15 years when our kids are old enough for us to get back into it.
I like the movies as much as the next guy, but I just can't see Star Wars taking up as much of a person's life as SCA. I mean, a few hours every month or so sitting and watching one of the movies, maybe playing with legos or something, fine. But SCA was something that took DAILY commitment (fighter training), and literally hours per week in shire meetings, and monthy or biweekly camping trips (during the spring and summer seasons), equipment maintenance, historical research, craft. In fact, I think the women spent a lot more time at it, because the most popular women's crafts were like needlepoint and sewing and stuff. That crap just takes hours and hours!
If you're spending that much time worshipping Star Wars, you DO, in fact, need a life.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
-jafac's law
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
Not to be stereotypical, but statistically I've found that bi-sexual women have a lot more in common with geeks than normal tee-hee girls. You might have better luck with a girl that uses both sides of The Force ;)
--- A Jesus Fish eating a Darwin Fish only proves Darwin's point.
I agree 100% about the gender bias. The article is a blatant slam against men by the very vocal "women are victims of men" crowd. The American media is full of these types of messages. Female mates of movie fans are not "widows"; this inappropriate use of strong words is simply a technique used by these victim-mongers (and politicians, too, for that matter) in the media all the time to get support and pity. Ironically, it is this same self-proclaimed group of victims that complains how males are more interested in science and technology than females, and thus tend to be more likely to pursue and get good-paying jobs in those fields.
While people in a relationship need a fair number of common interests to be compatible, people need to have their own lives, too. The article's author does not seem to understand that sometimes, our mates will do things that are annoying or boring, or make us feel left out. Boo-hoo! Deal with it!
Disclaimer: I, myself (a male), have no real interest in sci-fi movies and have no plans to watch starwars, so no anti-starwars flames, please.
-D
wasn't Jar Jar female?
Somehow, I think Amidala ends up being Leia's mother. I just get that feeling. . .
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
-jafac's law
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
GI Joe isn't a doll? Oh, no, right. It's an ACTION FIGURE! :-)
/. hoping I don't hit a spoiler land mine until I see the film with my girlfriend next week. We both hate crowds.)
(I'm just carefully moving through
Well said. I'd just like to add that all of you morons posting summaries of your favorite scene/favorite line/whatever, just remember, TPM WAS ONLY RELEASED IN THE U.S. - NOBODY IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY HAS EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT.
From another slashdotter who had his day totally trashed by assholes who just had to prove that they had seen the movie. Well done, guys. You suck.
Star Trek instead of starwares cause of the female bias? I thought Star Trek was pretty damn sexist considering that more that 60% of the females on the show wound up in bed with James Tiberius Kirk.
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Remember all the scenes of The Cap'n puttn' the boots back on?
And what of the star trek bias against the 6th or 7th landing party security guy. Always wore red, always got killed... CAPTAIN OVER HERE!!!! Boooommm zap zap....
Just my
Very good advice. If only I had seen it before I read the poll...
All I can say is, the movie has been out for ONE DAY and already people are posting spoilers as if everybody has seen it three times. Quite frankly, some people have JOBS and can't spend three hours in line to get tickets, or, even if they could get tickets, can't watch a movie that starts at midnight if they want to keep their job. The boss doesn't appreciate people coming in on 1hr of sleep and falling asleep on the job.
It really pisses me off... the mentality of more than one person that I've seen posting seems to be "you should have seen it already if you're reading this, so don't whine if we spoil it for you". See my above paragraph for reasons some people can't see TPM within the first 10 seconds of its release.
I was planning on going next Monday, when I actually have time, but I don't know whats going on now. I'm kinda pissed at this point, because a couple good parts of the movie have been ruined already. Some people are dickheads who should keep their goddamn mouths shut.
I've waited a LONG time to see TPM, and now because some people are retards who can't fathom the fact that in the real world, where your mommy and daddy don't pay for everything and you need to work for your money, you can't spend three weeks in line for a movie, I'm not even sure if I want to.
Thanks for ruining my day, assholes.
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There was a story after this Star Wars story about some kids building a reactor and producing plutonium. It linked to a NYT story about President Clinton. When I came back to /. the story was gone and Star Wars was back at the top of the list.
>Sayings. Maybe he needs professional help.
not the only one it seems buddy
>Star Wars Widows indeed.
well ppl say the sky is blue to the naked eye.. but hey, i'm still not going to beleive it
hey its not just star wars addicts that brake up marrages,as addictions of many kinds do, its just that fact that they do, and you are unwilling to see that
is it just me ir did anyone else see STAR WARS WINDOWS when they 1st saw this story? :P i had to reread it to see STAR WARS WIDOWS...i think we're all too obsessed with Windows (or rather its downfall ;) )
hehe
"There is no spoon" - Neo, The Matrix
I nearly lost it when the girlfriend mentioned being chased by the boyfriend wielding a TIE fighter after having sex.
"I have you now...."
-S. Louie
"I may be Love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it."
Rachel finally dressed up as Leia because (to stress a point made by several people) she cared about Ross and dressing up like that once would make him happy. That is what love is (well, partly, but hey.. people have been discussing that one for centuries) people making other people happy, even if they may not enjoy it as much.
I only read the first page of the article, but it seemed heavily biased against the male gender. As if obsession with the Star Wars saga was only limited to men. I have some female family members that are more obsessed than me.
I don't like the author hinting that the men were rejecting their mates because they were indifferent, or did not like, or had not seen Star Wars. When I choose a mate, if they fall in said category they would need to have a lot of highly redeeming qualities in other categories to make up for this shortcoming. Star Wars is a big part of my life. It's the second religion I was raised on. If someone does not understand and/or is not open to understanding this (which, apparently the "Star Wars Widows" are not), a large part of common ground between us would be non-existent. Do you really want a mate have nothing in common with you?
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Someone changed the timestamp of the plutonium story to 10:30am, and Slash dutifully waits for that time to come to display it. anyway, the URL is:
http://slashdot.org /article.pl?sid=99/05/20/1320256&mode=thread.
In Soviet Russia, Jesus asks: "What Would You Do?"
Read the over 1K messages that appear on
alt.fan.star-wars daily, and tell me that
*alone* ain't a hobby !
I even went to the local Wal-Mart "Star Wars
Event" (today only) which was basically a little
ole lady handing out Dixie cups of Pepsi and
tiny bags of Lay's potato chips, as well as
various "locker posters". Got Amidala and Padme
posters, and the 1999 Portrait Edition Leia doll
after an eight-store search earlier this week.
It's a hobby.
Oh, and I'm an ole married woman (33 yrs old).
My hubby indulges me !
MTFBWY,
Shinobu
This article really does sound anti-male. But I think that the cases described in it are hardly typical. My sweet wife -- totally on her own and without my asking -- found a babysitter for our daughter and went to stand in line Wednesday for our tickets while I was at work. She'll be getting a lot of yard work from me this weekend.
By the way, the movie was great.
-Render.
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Thats not too subtle, people could barely AVOID reading it. Come on, don't do that to people who haven't gotten a chance to see it yet.
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It seems to me the so-called "non-obsessed" obsess FAR more about the "obsessed" than the "obsessed" EVER do about whatever they enjoy. If there's anyone with a problem, it's them.
Obsessions Forever!
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Posted by The Masked Miscreant >:):
I'm probably what some people would consider a borderline 'obssesed Star Wars fan', and my SO just isn't quite as 'into' it as I am anymore than I am 'into' the Monkees (her 'obsession'). But that's not what's important. She understands that I love the movies, and has even gone to Toys 'R' Us with me on a Star Wars run.
But, that's because we both share enough interests and activities that we don't look at each other's obsessions as being the sum total of each other's personality. She thinks I spend too much time on my computer, I think she spends too much time watching TV. We could just let that be the end of it, but there's more to each of us than the little annoying habbits that we all have. We tend to like the same kind of informational shows (though I can't understand how she can insist on watching the same series half-a-dozen times), and she's willing to learn about computers, even though she jokes about my laptop being 'the other woman' on occassion.
If a hobby or interest is enough to break two people appart, then there just wasn't enough else there for them to expect to stay together very long in the first place. That's all there really is to it.
We used to call them hobbies.
What is this obsession now with the word obsession? Otherwise normal people are now obsessed. I heard someone the other day referring to a guy as a stallker because he called her twice. Good word people, lighten up on us. We have interests. Should we all be ho-hum about everything in our lives just to avoid being called obsessed?
Well, if refusing to date anything less than a full Han-Solo clone is obsessed, I'm obsessed and proud of it!
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"Star Wars" fanatics usually seem like the guys next door. Despite their unusual attachment to Luke and Princess Leia, they consider themselves more socially acceptable than, say, "Star Trek" fans. "We shower. We have good careers. Many of us are in shape and attractive to the opposite sex," says Campbell, 26. "Most of us do not snort when we laugh or tape our broken glasses together."
What's with battling one stereotype with another that he, of all people, should understand better? In reality, there's very little difference between the stereotypes of Star Wars nuts and Star Trek nuts, or between the actual people. The dork description (taped glasses, etc.) is not at all fair to either; in fact, I've never known anybody who matched that, or even seen such a person outside of movies and TV.
I'm both, of course -- Star*. I used to be more into Star Trek, but unfortunately there is no Star Trek show currently running. I've always thought Star Wars was pretty cool, but I've gotten a lot more interested in it lately -- as in, in the past five years or so, not just with the recent hype. I just don't get why some people think there's more than a friendly rivalry between the two.
This guy's comment could have just been meant as a friendly jab, and "We're big enough to take a few insults.", but it doesn't really belong in an article whose overall focus seems to be to increase the "normal" people's perception of us as freaks. Along those lines, I second those who complain about the article's bias against men. One of the women on our team says she wanted to work for SGI just for the chance to deal with Lucasfilm. She's been instructing the rest of us on what theaters to go to for "the proper experience". Oh, and she managed to be at the premier in New York with Lucas, while I didn't go until last night after work, and the rest of the team isn't going until tomorrow.
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One out of four, I can handle (though arguably the droids and Obi-Wan are pretty major as well).
What bothers me is this: since she IS the one out of four, it would be nice if she didn't turn into a jellyfish when she falls in love with Han. Blah.
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
But yes, Star Wars is sexist, and furthermore, it will be good once the fuss dies down, which is about the time Episode 2 spoilers get printed in Newsweek.
that article seems to conveniently forget that there actually ARE fems that are huge star wars fans. it, of course, finds it sensationalism by dragging out the most exagerrated cases. I would never even consider the dating potential of a guy based on his SW enthusiasm, so the he fact can't be denied that i have a slew of SW toys laying around and my boyf likes the movies but doesn't give half a damn.
i was one of those chicks you saw in full amidala face makeup. i was there and i was excited!! my boyf was home trying to get another machine to talk on the network.
it does kinda annoy me that there is only one major female character per episode. honestly, i went expecting amidala to be a token female decoration. fortunately, this was not the case.
the only redemption for this imbalance (for me) is the fact that amidala and leia especially are very strong female characters. there was no demureness about leia; she was as harsh and bitchy as i am in real life. most movies don't portray women in that manner and thus influence the whole female subliminal-guilt-trip-for-being-opinionated thing.
overall, leia and amidala may be rather token due to the fact that there are so many male characters, but they are actually significant in their own right and definitely hold their own.
movie opinion: great!
...my wife is *much* more of a Star Wars geek than I am, so when I said "want to go to a midnight showing", this was taken as a *good* thing.
One of my favourite games at the last Ambercon UK I went to was based on A New Hope, complete with Benedict as Obi Wan and pattern swords replacing light sabres.
Kithran
Smartest comment I've read all day. Having an obsession is one thing, but forsaking everyone else around you is another.
If your SO leaves you because you really like Star Wars (or whatever your obession may be), then there was a problem with the relationship. If your SO leaves you because you cashed in your kids' college fund to buy that Special Star Wars Edition Yugo, then you're the one with the problem.
It's all a matter of perspective.
To refer to another "obsession" I once had, Dr. Drew of the "Loveline" Radio Show liked to define an addiction as something that you continue to do even in the face of extreme negative consequences. Maybe that applies to Star Wars and other SF/Fantasy interests. If SW is so important to you that the rest of your life could go to hell as a result of your fandom and you would still keep at it, then maybe you've gone too far.
Then again, the loss of an SO who refuses to accept that fandom might not be considered an "extreme negative loss". Relationships require a two-way understanding of each other, right? Sometimes I think I'd rather be single than with somebody who thought I was wasting my time on such things as Trek, Comics, Programming, etc.
After all, most guys, with a "normal" obsession with NBA/NFL/NHL/MLB generally don't have to stop going to games in order to keep their girlfriends around. But even the sports freak will lose his SO if he goes too far and neglects her. What makes SW fandom immune to this same restriction? I don't think it is, or should be.
The flip-side is that geeks need to be understanding of non-geeks. There is intelligent life out there. At least, that's the theory...
So, okay, maybe I'm a geek and an addict... and I've meandered enough for this post...
My daughter's played the "Curse of Monkey Island" so many
times, she's memorized most of the dialog. (Hmm, that's a
LucasArts game... Maybe their products put out some kind of
brainwashing rays.)
She also retrieves PC boards that I try to throw away; thinks
they're cool. I guess she inherited my geek genes.
That's been my experience too. I think it's likely the result of a couple factors:
- open mindedness
- able to see things from the male perspective
As opposed to the original trilogy being heavily biased against females, in case you hadn't noticed?
Has a lot to do with why women, even those who otherwise like sci-fi, don't generally seem to get into the whole SW thing. It's certainly why I've always liked Star Trek better than Star Wars!
*shrug*
And as for "religion," it's not a religion. It's a bad caricature of most of the world's major religions, all rolled into one. Not that this is stopping people from scrolling pagan groups with nonsense about "the Dark Side" at the moment. *sigh*
I'll be much happier when this fuss dies down.
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
Perhaps you need to watch the original trilogy again.
You'd notice that the leader of the entire rebellion is female.
Politically correct enough for you?
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No, just try dating someone you actually have things in common with. Works wonders, you know.
FWIW, most of the feminists I know don't like Ally McBeal et al. either.
People can get fanatical about anything - TV shows, movies, books, roleplaying games, religion, whatever. *shrug* I know people who have never missed an episode of X-files, I know people who have followed Phish to other countries, and I know people who own six different copies of the Chronicles of Amber.
Anyway, if she's driving you nuts with her fanaticism about her shows, you don't have to stay with her. There are women out there who don't watch them or like them.
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
Then, of course, you can MEET your g/f while engaged in your obsession. I WAS an avid RPG player. I met this nice girl there (she was 14 at the time). I started dating her a year later. It's now more than 19 years later, we've been married for 10+ years. She wants to go see TPM more than I do (Getting a babysitter can be a drag )
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Hrm, they missed the opportunity to mention the episode of Friends where Ross gets Rachel to dress up as Princess Leia in her gold bikini....
Oh, so it's not OK to obsess about Friends?
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I finally got to see Episode I. I was disapointed. I am a big StarWars fan, it was the first movie I ever saw in a theater, but Episode I was a joke. Great acting, great plot, great visual effects, but the dialogue and editing left something to be desired. I know people don't want to hear this, and I know I could not do better, but I expected it to be better. How many special fade in and fade outs do you need. I hope the next one is a lot better and please pray for no more Ja Ja characters. I heard that they are already looking for the next Anakin, I just hope they don't pick Jason Vanderbeek. Does anyone else think that Episode I was kind of lame?
Conferences come at a set date. I'm sure the Phantom Menace won't be on just one date, but in the theaters for months.
Burn me at the stake if you guys will, but I admit to seeing the trilogy *once* in the theaters as a small child, and that's it. I will probably rent them sometime here when Im bored wait to see PM in theaters when all the freaks are gone.
Fuck Ajit Pai
Alright, so everybody who has a job and/or lives in a country outside of the US has to live under a rock for a few months just because some assholes can't put *SPOILER* in their title?
/. is probably asking too much, isn't it.
Its great to see that the world is full of such reasonable and caring people.
Just because TPM is out and I haven't seen it yet doesn't mean I want to stop reading news stories. Oh, and I'm not asking people to stop talking about it, I'm only asking that if you're going to talk about it, MARK IT AS A SPOILER.
I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy if you were looking forward to a movie and I walked up and told you the ending. Christ, if you had been in line for ESB back when it came out, and I had been coming out and said "I can't believe that Darth Vader is Luke's father", you'd have been pretty pissed. [and yes, reminds me of a Simpsons flashback too]
And as much as it was not necessary, I put a nice little message just in case somebody hasn't seen ESB. Is it that hard? Not really. It takes oh... 7 little keystrokes to make everybody happy. S P O I L E R. 7 keystrokes. Not much to ask.
Its one thing to say "jar jar was annoying". Its another to say "the ending was so cool, when [insert name] did [insert action] to [insert name 2]."
It just comes down to some common courtesy. But then again, asking for that on
... maybe there wouldn't be so many Star Wars widows if the original movies had had the sense to include a main female character other than Leia, who spends the original trilogy with her spine disintegrating.
Having been dragged to TPM by my boyfriend last night, I can honestly say that this was improved this time around. But it doesn't make up entirely for having had to sit through the originals multiple times and endure the endless discussions of exactly what is in stock toy-wise at Toys R Us (he works there).
Then again, he puts up with my Amber obsession; I guess I can deal with his SW obsession, and even joke about it a bit. (Anakin Skywalker, shadow of Brand?? *grin*)
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
Everyone has an obsession. And anyone who won't accept yours isn't worth your time. (Conversely, you must accept their obsessions, too)
Hey, my world stops once a week for RPG's, and I have no problem with that. My g/f on the other hand (who goes on and on and on about Tom Cruise) is bothered by it. But hey, if she wants me to listen about what color draw's Tom wears, she has to deal with my Friday evening to Saturday gaming fests.
Simply... Everyone has a passion about something; and don't try to change them, just deal with it and we'll all be happier.
... but some people are past that point.
Spending more money than you can afford on Star Wars toys seems to be past that point.
Spending so much time on an obsession that you flunk out of college is also past that point (not to do with the article, just obsessions in general).
Is adversely affecting your relationship with a SO past that point? Depends on the circumstance. If the SO used to be neutral or slightly into the obsession, and you've made him/her sick of it, there is generally a problem.
IMHO, of course.
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
Well, I'm going to see TPM at 6pm tonight with my girlfriend who is excited about it too. I personally also saw a number of girls camped out at the local theater. I would say that the Star Wars obsession isn't limited to males but would hamper a guess that it is mostly male.
This could possibly be do to gender forming, where little girls are taught to play with dolls and boys with GI Joe and other things like that.
then these women would be widowed by something else. The men aren't getting what they need at home, so they go searching.
/. readership is college age a presumably pre-married, I will give a little free advice. If you find your future mate to be obsessing over something other than you, take a good long look at yourself. What inner need is the partner trying to fill with the object of the obsession. Then ask yourself, why the hell ain't I filling that need. It may turn out that you can't fill it. In which case, you need to get out of the way, or even encourage your partner (i.e., join him/her). Too many good marriages end nowadays because people who've pledged to love one another refuse to look deep inside their partner, find out what is missing, and then reach deep inside themselves to give of what they have.
I've been married for a decade, so I can talk from 'some' experience. Whenever I've had an 'obsession' that has pulled on our relationship, it has been because the relationship was weakening--not because computer, trucks or boats are/were so great. A little work on the relationship (talking, working together, etc.), and my priorities quickly changed.
Since a major part of the
The one case in the article where the girlfriend had never seen the movie, the guy finally got her to watch it, and then she says its 'OK'. The relationship was doomed from the start, because the girl obviously didn't give a shit. My wife's an aerobics instructor. I'd rather play Doom and drink vodka. But still I drag my fat, uncoordinated ass into the gym to take a kickboxing class. Afterwards, I tell my wife what I think she did well--and not so well. I show interest in what she loves. She even condescends to help me work on my car or computer on occassion. I like to create things, she knows that, and will push me to make things she likes. We've learned to work so well together that I'm positive that we'll be married another decade or four.
To sum it up without making an over generalization. The Star Wars Widows could actually be Black Widows. It's just that in their case they killed their mates by ignoring them.
Of course, the guys in the article could just be jerks who don't realize that they're married...
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It's not a great movie, it's an okay movie and I'm sure a lot of people will enjoy it. The anticipation was better than the event.
PS: Go in the morning, the theater where I went was 1/2 empty (1/2 full?).
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Yes, the guys could be jerks who don't realize they're married. Yes, the women could be miserable bitches who are failing to be understanding.
But perhaps it's a bit of both? Or perhaps simple incompatibility?
Speaking from personal experience
That said, the people who think having never seen SW is blasphemous need to get lives. I don't think non-SCAdians are lesser human beings; I DO think that my involvement with the SCA is an important enough part of my life that I couldn't be in a relationship with someone who didn't share that with me. (Then again, I started seeing my boyfriend at Pennsic, so that's not a problem.) If Star Wars fandom (or anything else) has the same meaning to someone, it is perfectly reasonable to wish a SO to share in that.
However, one of the most disturbing things about obsessed people is the tendency to look upon the non-obsessed as lesser life-forms. This is BAD. Certainly, it has no place in a relationship.
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
Isn't the waiting always better than the having?
Hey, I had a blast at the movie. Of course, I only expected to be entertained for a few hours and see Jedi ass-whuppin'. I am happy to say there was more to it than that.
I will admit the guys cited on the page are a bit overboard, but don't women get obsessed with things?
They sure do.
Take my g/f for example: "I don't care if you want to go out to a nice dinner, I need to watch Dawson's Creek!", or, "we can have sex later, Ally McBeal is on!"
Of course she thinks that by sitting in the PC room with me, instead of out in the living room, she's still being close to me and doing nothing wrong. What she in fact is doing is driving me nuts with her teeny-bopper crap.
I dare not say anything insulting about her favorite characters (Not even the drunk off Party of Five). My last g/f dumped me for making fun of the lamers in Teen People Magazine, I think my current g/f would dump me if I said something bad about her shows.
I think I'm gonna go homosexual...
If there is one thing I find darkly humorous in the entire Phantom Menace saga, it's been Taco. Poor Rob, split between Tux and the Dark Side, sharp and poignant words signifying each additional step towards the coming Linux Expo...someone should definitely catalog Rob's sayings. Maybe he needs professional help.
Star Wars Widows indeed.
...walking away, imagining Tux with a light saber cutting down the now Darth Taco for abandoning his calling as SlashDiety of the Linux Expo...
Quitting while he's (theoretically) ahead...
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