The problem, as this post touches upon, is that there is no "we". In any large, diverse group, there can be no more than just extremely general similarities between members. We are not "Slashdot drones", we are just people who share enough common interests to all come to this site. I'm sure the "Slashdot community" consists of script kiddies as well as Fortune 500 network security experts.
Because people will take home said disc, and it won't work, and they'll bring it back as defective. And the guy at the store will be able to NOT give them a refund, because it doesn't have the CD logo on it, so it wasn't guaranteed to play on their device. Sorry.
And consumers will get burned, and word will get out, and major media will start warning consumers to check for the logo to make sure it'll play...
> Fucking slashdot editors... I'm through. I
> contribute to slashdot no more. This is my last
> post.
No! Please, umm... aozilla, please think this through! Where would we be without you pointing out editorial mistakes? Continue to share with us your wisdom, oh important one! If you don't post any longer, I shall forsake Slashdot myself!
Actually, hold on... I don't know you, have never read any of your posts, and am not impressed by this one. I wish people would just go away quietly; why do they feel the need to announce to us all that they're leaving? Like we care.
> What if I decide to market a new device that runs
> on the same frequency? And I decide I don't care
> about working with Verizon, MCI or anyone else if
> my device interferes with their service? I guess
> you won't be talking on your cell phone very
> much.
...and, conversely, you won't be using your new device much, either, so what would be the point? Assuming cel phones were using some sort of frequency-hopping themselves by then, you'd have to, too, to get any usage of your own.
> Remember in the DOS days when developers could
> write apps that took resources and never gave
> them back?
Yup. Which regulatory body stepped in and fixed that, again? You might say MS, but that's not true; UNIX stopped that from happening long before DOS ran into it. All the OSes nowadays use a better system, not because they were forced to, but because they realized the issue and fixed it.
> Remember 100 years ago before the FDA people
> would sell colored water and pass it off as
> medicine? Or no regulation in food quality?
Regulating life's necessities and regulating frequency bands are two separate topics entirely.
> What if Verizon and MCI tried to grab the same
> frequency to market their latest wireless service
> in the same location? And what if that same
> frequency was in use by someone else's device? Who
> would be the final arbiter in these situations?
Simple: Verizon and MCI. There need not be a third party involved. If their tech doesn't work together in the same location, either one leaves, or they find a way to make the tech work together.
In a very short time, you'll have protocols like 802.11 and BlueTooth which can work together in the same frequency band(s), robustly. Problem solved.
Jesus, people, SLASHDOT IS NOT A NEWS SOURCE. Slashdot is a bunch of geeks who post links to things they find interesting (some of which might be news sources) and then give their opinions of. Why do people come here thinking to find anything unbiased?? These are ALL OPINIONS, including the submission and every comment!
>
> You are a jouralist outlet that serves half a
> million pages a day, and you should be a lot
> more responsible than that.
>
Unless you've paid fees I don't know about, Slashdot and every poster to it does not owe you a damn thing. People come here to link to interesting things and speak their minds about them; there is no responibility involved.
Read posted links, and find them interesting, or not. Read comments, and agree with them, or not. Post your own comments, or not. But PLEASE, do not whine about how biased other peoples' opinions are!!
> But does the wiring look pretty? Or the
> plumbing? Or the unfinished basement/garage? Or
> any of the stuff that actually makes the house
> work?
>
> Hell no.
How many of us have had to pay an electrician or plumber twice as much because they first had to FIGURE OUT how everything worked, and then try and fix the problem? When they say "pretty", they don't mean nice to look at; they mean well-designed. With code those things can be the same, but in taking the analogy to the real, you have to see the difference in the two.
Actually, they are. At least, they have been found guilty, and that's good enough for me. You have to assume that all people found guilty ARE guilty, or that they are ALL not guilty, and treat them accordingly. I vote that we assume that if they were found guilty that they are guilty, and go from there.
> To join two streams, just concatenate the files.
Holy snot, this actually works! 'cat file1.ogg file2.ogg > file3.ogg' and play file3.ogg, and it happily plays one and then the other. Can you do this with MP3s?
You fell into the classic "Windows" trap.. this is what I tell the Jr. tech guys here when one of the servers goes wonky: "If it doesn't work, there is a reason; something is wrong. Rebooting will not fix the problem."
Except, of course, when it does. This is Windows we're talking about...
Doug
Re:No physical ballots = No meaningful recount
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How about a middle ground? A computer in the poll, 'activated' in some way by a registered voter coming to the polling location. They use a nice, simple GUI to choose the candidate and issues, and it spits out a punchcard with the proper holes bunched and the voters info barcoded onto it. Those ballots are collected and counted using the current machine counters.
Make the actual voting part up-to-date, and leave the rest the same? For now at least?
Rational's ClearCase product is implemented as a filesystem, called MVFS. It's not a generic filesystem for everyday use, but it does have versioning (and branching, and labels, and hyperlinks, and metadata...) all built in.
Even more so; most people don't even separate the OS from "the computer", conceptually. I recently had to explain to my girlfriend that it was WINDOWS that kept locking her machine up; she had always assumed it was the computer itself. "That's just how computers work, they lock up every once in a while." I almost had a cow.
I've been using PayTrust directly for almost six months now. It has been a wonderful experience for me; I hate the physical act of paying bills, so I tend to just leave them and not pay them at all.
PayTrust gets them for me and just tells me how much I owe. That's the key; all the other bill-pay services only allow you to pay a fixed amount every month, or you have to do it manually.
PayTrust also scans the bill itself, so you can read it page by page on-line.
I have most of my billers set to be paid automatically; in most cases, I just look at the total in the email they send me when they get the bill, verify it's about the normal monthly amount, and let the service schedule and execute the payment for me. My total involvement is reading and deleting an email.
In short, this has been the perfect solution for me, and has saved me far more than the $8/month fee in late fees alone. Since it's free for three months, I highly suggest trying it out.
Slashdot Mirror
I'm getting 1.5mb/s down and 384kb/s up for $90/month from Speakeasy.net in San Diego.
Doug
He states clearly in his English email that he is not out to win anybody over.
Doug
As a current Neverbeennearoregonian, I can assure you that the rest of the world finds these names random at best. =)
Doug
The problem, as this post touches upon, is that there is no "we". In any large, diverse group, there can be no more than just extremely general similarities between members. We are not "Slashdot drones", we are just people who share enough common interests to all come to this site. I'm sure the "Slashdot community" consists of script kiddies as well as Fortune 500 network security experts.
There is no "we".
Doug
In a word: Yes.
Because people will take home said disc, and it won't work, and they'll bring it back as defective. And the guy at the store will be able to NOT give them a refund, because it doesn't have the CD logo on it, so it wasn't guaranteed to play on their device. Sorry.
And consumers will get burned, and word will get out, and major media will start warning consumers to check for the logo to make sure it'll play...
Doug
I don't see any reason why you can't get off your lazy ass and MAKE yourself a shiny foil suit! Plently of foil lying about...
Doug
> Fucking slashdot editors... I'm through. I
> contribute to slashdot no more. This is my last
> post.
No! Please, umm... aozilla, please think this through! Where would we be without you pointing out editorial mistakes? Continue to share with us your wisdom, oh important one! If you don't post any longer, I shall forsake Slashdot myself!
Actually, hold on... I don't know you, have never read any of your posts, and am not impressed by this one. I wish people would just go away quietly; why do they feel the need to announce to us all that they're leaving? Like we care.
Doug
> What if I decide to market a new device that runs
...and, conversely, you won't be using your new device much, either, so what would be the point? Assuming cel phones were using some sort of frequency-hopping themselves by then, you'd have to, too, to get any usage of your own.
> on the same frequency? And I decide I don't care
> about working with Verizon, MCI or anyone else if
> my device interferes with their service? I guess
> you won't be talking on your cell phone very
> much.
> Remember in the DOS days when developers could
> write apps that took resources and never gave
> them back?
Yup. Which regulatory body stepped in and fixed that, again? You might say MS, but that's not true; UNIX stopped that from happening long before DOS ran into it. All the OSes nowadays use a better system, not because they were forced to, but because they realized the issue and fixed it.
> Remember 100 years ago before the FDA people
> would sell colored water and pass it off as
> medicine? Or no regulation in food quality?
Regulating life's necessities and regulating frequency bands are two separate topics entirely.
Doug
> What if Verizon and MCI tried to grab the same
> frequency to market their latest wireless service
> in the same location? And what if that same
> frequency was in use by someone else's device? Who
> would be the final arbiter in these situations?
Simple: Verizon and MCI. There need not be a third party involved. If their tech doesn't work together in the same location, either one leaves, or they find a way to make the tech work together.
In a very short time, you'll have protocols like 802.11 and BlueTooth which can work together in the same frequency band(s), robustly. Problem solved.
Doug
>
> You are far from an unbiased news source...
>
Jesus, people, SLASHDOT IS NOT A NEWS SOURCE. Slashdot is a bunch of geeks who post links to things they find interesting (some of which might be news sources) and then give their opinions of. Why do people come here thinking to find anything unbiased?? These are ALL OPINIONS, including the submission and every comment!
>
> You are a jouralist outlet that serves half a
> million pages a day, and you should be a lot
> more responsible than that.
>
Unless you've paid fees I don't know about, Slashdot and every poster to it does not owe you a damn thing. People come here to link to interesting things and speak their minds about them; there is no responibility involved.
Read posted links, and find them interesting, or not. Read comments, and agree with them, or not. Post your own comments, or not. But PLEASE, do not whine about how biased other peoples' opinions are!!
Doug
> But does the wiring look pretty? Or the
> plumbing? Or the unfinished basement/garage? Or
> any of the stuff that actually makes the house
> work?
>
> Hell no.
How many of us have had to pay an electrician or plumber twice as much because they first had to FIGURE OUT how everything worked, and then try and fix the problem? When they say "pretty", they don't mean nice to look at; they mean well-designed. With code those things can be the same, but in taking the analogy to the real, you have to see the difference in the two.
Doug
> However, not all prisoners are gulity,
Actually, they are. At least, they have been found guilty, and that's good enough for me. You have to assume that all people found guilty ARE guilty, or that they are ALL not guilty, and treat them accordingly. I vote that we assume that if they were found guilty that they are guilty, and go from there.
Doug
> To join two streams, just concatenate the files.
Holy snot, this actually works! 'cat file1.ogg file2.ogg > file3.ogg' and play file3.ogg, and it happily plays one and then the other. Can you do this with MP3s?
Doug
Except, of course, when it does. This is Windows we're talking about...
Doug
How about a middle ground? A computer in the poll, 'activated' in some way by a registered voter coming to the polling location. They use a nice, simple GUI to choose the candidate and issues, and it spits out a punchcard with the proper holes bunched and the voters info barcoded onto it. Those ballots are collected and counted using the current machine counters.
Make the actual voting part up-to-date, and leave the rest the same? For now at least?
The next President of the United States is always "Stuff that matters." End of story.
Doug
Rational's ClearCase product is implemented as a filesystem, called MVFS. It's not a generic filesystem for everyday use, but it does have versioning (and branching, and labels, and hyperlinks, and metadata...) all built in.
Doug
Even more so; most people don't even separate the OS from "the computer", conceptually. I recently had to explain to my girlfriend that it was WINDOWS that kept locking her machine up; she had always assumed it was the computer itself. "That's just how computers work, they lock up every once in a while." I almost had a cow.
Doug
PayTrust gets them for me and just tells me how much I owe. That's the key; all the other bill-pay services only allow you to pay a fixed amount every month, or you have to do it manually.
PayTrust also scans the bill itself, so you can read it page by page on-line.
I have most of my billers set to be paid automatically; in most cases, I just look at the total in the email they send me when they get the bill, verify it's about the normal monthly amount, and let the service schedule and execute the payment for me. My total involvement is reading and deleting an email.
In short, this has been the perfect solution for me, and has saved me far more than the $8/month fee in late fees alone. Since it's free for three months, I highly suggest trying it out.
--
Doug