I'm looking at implementing XFS now. Should it prove stable enough, it will likely end up being what we use. Does anybody else have experience using XFS on linux on a system with a few thousand simultaneous users? (The system is going to be taking quite a beating.)
So, we should ban all text books on nuclear physics? Making bombs isn't all that studying atoms is useful for.
<rant>
Ever taken note of the scientists that are trying to figure out how to build a workable fusion reactor? One that works would be a near perfect solution to power generation problems. A clean power generator that wouldn't have the radiation worries of a nuclear fission plant. Are you saying you prefer coal power?
Is that a computer you're using? It wouldn't be as fast as it is today if it weren't for the microprocessor, the design of which is heavily dependent on the properties of individual atoms and their interactions.
</rant>
Seriously, some of the areas in science that are used for weapons research actually have peacetime uses. Even research that has gone into biological weapons (one of the worst category of weapons there is) has helped further our understanding of genetics and immunology, both of which have led to advances in medical science. Censorship of information that could be used to produce something harmful could also prevent the development of something helpful or beneficial.
However, there is another side to this coin. There is a fine line between scientific research and the antics of a mad scientist, ranging anywhere from poor taste to outright atrocity. Leonardo DaVinci was a graverobber, digging up freshly buried corpses for his anatomy research. Scientists in Nazi Germany performed vivisections on un-anestestitized prisoners. (For those of you without dictionaries handy, they cut them open while they were awake to see how the organs worked.) Both of these added great amounts of knowledge to modern medical science, but should they have been done? Should the knowledge gained from such distaseful means be used? Should it be censored?
When it comes to talking about censoring text books, you really should think about what all the implications of doing so might be, and what all the reasons for doing so are. The biggest question is: once you start, where do you stop?
"...for the sake of argument: $0.25/computer isn't exactly bank-breaking..."
Most OEM's try to save and scrimp every penny on production that they possibly can, because small differences in price start to add up in quantities of 10000 or more. That $0.25 per computer would equal $2500 across 10000 computers. (Just keep adding zeros, it adds up pretty quick.) That extra expense is that much money that the OEM isn't making in profit. It boils down to the problem of the production going to the lowest bidder, or in this case, the part with the lowest price. Parts that have royalty fees attached to them (take firewire and rambus as examples) tend to be overlooked more often than parts that are more freely/cheaply available, even if/when the alternative is less advanced in terms of technology. In a business sense, it's all about profit, not necessarily about what should or should not be done.
the EV6 is a point to point bus, unlike the bus used by intel. this means that while the processor can run at 200MHz, the ram is not required to, so the only thing that matters is what speed of ram the bios supports (eg. 100 or 133 or whatever). this also affects things like the pci and agp bus too: they are independent from the FSB, and run at whatever speed the chipset allows.
if you're having timeout problems, i suggest checking/rearranging the terminators on your scsi chain. same type of thing happened to me with an onboard AIC7870, and it turned out i had one too many terminators active.
>as when Anakin Skywalker, the >young Darth-to-be yells "yippee" >when he learns he might be leaving his >Mom and heading off with a Jedi Knight.
you may have missed the fact that young anakin didn't know that his mom wouldn't be going with them, even though the audience already did. he didn't learn this until a little later. (i think it was about 5 minutes later into the film.)
i've never had any trouble with scsi in the kernels, but i've always compiled it in, rather than using modules. (the only drives i've got are scsi, so i have to.)
i've got one machine with an onboard aic78somethingorother. the only problems i've had with it are with the 2.2-pre5 up to 2.2.1 kernels not reading my disk geometry correctly. (scsi compiled in.)
is there anything else in your system that might cause problems? a device that's not sharing irq's cleanly maybe?
it seems like everything i've read about this movie has been knocking on it pretty hard. I watched it, and enjoyed it. some of the acting may have been mediocre, and they should have spent more on the kilrathi, but it was a decent movie over all.
remember, the bad parts just give you a chance to practice imitating tom servo. (mst3k)
just because a company makes a program open source does not mean that they have to give the program away for free. it just means that they are distributing the source code with the program.
the intent is to for people to "pay" for it by contributing to it in some way, shape, or form. Whether that be by actively developing Linux, by developing software for Linux, by supporting people that develop for Linux, or by submitting a bug report whenever something goes wrong, the idea is that you contribute something.
Publicity stunt? Why not. It brings attention to the problem. The problem is that MS put a clause in their EULA that they aren't abiding by.
Since the EULA is basically a contract between MS and the consumer, MS not following one portion of the contract nullifies the whole thing for both parties. So long as the consumer followed all the terms of the contract, and it was MS that broke their end, the contract is void. This means: 1) the consumer can procede with legal action against MS for breach of contract. 2) the consumer cannot be bound to a void contract, so anything they do with the software cannot be considered in violation of the EULA (since it is already void).
(my legaleze is a little shaky, could someone back me up on #2?)
Slashdot Mirror
I'm looking at implementing XFS now. Should it prove stable enough, it will likely end up being what we use. Does anybody else have experience using XFS on linux on a system with a few thousand simultaneous users? (The system is going to be taking quite a beating.)
So, we should ban all text books on nuclear physics? Making bombs isn't all that studying atoms is useful for.
<rant>
Ever taken note of the scientists that are trying to figure out how to build a workable fusion reactor? One that works would be a near perfect solution to power generation problems. A clean power generator that wouldn't have the radiation worries of a nuclear fission plant. Are you saying you prefer coal power?
Is that a computer you're using? It wouldn't be as fast as it is today if it weren't for the microprocessor, the design of which is heavily dependent on the properties of individual atoms and their interactions.
</rant>
Seriously, some of the areas in science that are used for weapons research actually have peacetime uses. Even research that has gone into biological weapons (one of the worst category of weapons there is) has helped further our understanding of genetics and immunology, both of which have led to advances in medical science.
Censorship of information that could be used to produce something harmful could also prevent the development of something helpful or beneficial.
However, there is another side to this coin. There is a fine line between scientific research and the antics of a mad scientist, ranging anywhere from poor taste to outright atrocity. Leonardo DaVinci was a graverobber, digging up freshly buried corpses for his anatomy research. Scientists in Nazi Germany performed vivisections on un-anestestitized prisoners. (For those of you without dictionaries handy, they cut them open while they were awake to see how the organs worked.) Both of these added great amounts of knowledge to modern medical science, but should they have been done? Should the knowledge gained from such distaseful means be used? Should it be censored?
When it comes to talking about censoring text books, you really should think about what all the implications of doing so might be, and what all the reasons for doing so are. The biggest question is: once you start, where do you stop?
"...for the sake of argument: $0.25/computer isn't exactly bank-breaking..."
Most OEM's try to save and scrimp every penny on production that they possibly can, because small differences in price start to add up in quantities of 10000 or more. That $0.25 per computer would equal $2500 across 10000 computers. (Just keep adding zeros, it adds up pretty quick.) That extra expense is that much money that the OEM isn't making in profit. It boils down to the problem of the production going to the lowest bidder, or in this case, the part with the lowest price. Parts that have royalty fees attached to them (take firewire and rambus as examples) tend to be overlooked more often than parts that are more freely/cheaply available, even if/when the alternative is less advanced in terms of technology. In a business sense, it's all about profit, not necessarily about what should or should not be done.
the EV6 is a point to point bus, unlike the bus used by intel. this means that while the processor can run at 200MHz, the ram is not required to, so the only thing that matters is what speed of ram the bios supports (eg. 100 or 133 or whatever). this also affects things like the pci and agp bus too: they are independent from the FSB, and run at whatever speed the chipset allows.
someone correct me if i'm wrong about anything.
if you're having timeout problems, i suggest checking/rearranging the terminators on your scsi chain. same type of thing happened to me with an onboard AIC7870, and it turned out i had one too many terminators active.
>as when Anakin Skywalker, the
>young Darth-to-be yells "yippee"
>when he learns he might be leaving his
>Mom and heading off with a Jedi Knight.
you may have missed the fact that young anakin didn't know that his mom wouldn't be going with them, even though the audience already did. he didn't learn this until a little later. (i think it was about 5 minutes later into the film.)
i've never had any trouble with scsi in the kernels, but i've always compiled it in, rather than using modules. (the only drives i've got are scsi, so i have to.)
i've got one machine with an onboard aic78somethingorother. the only problems i've had with it are with the 2.2-pre5 up to 2.2.1 kernels not reading my disk geometry correctly. (scsi compiled in.)
is there anything else in your system that might cause problems? a device that's not sharing irq's cleanly maybe?
it seems like everything i've read about this movie has been knocking on it pretty hard. I watched it, and enjoyed it. some of the acting may have been mediocre, and they should have spent more on the kilrathi, but it was a decent movie over all.
remember, the bad parts just give you a chance to practice imitating tom servo. (mst3k)
you can't right now with the current crop of k6's, but wait till they come out with the K7. It'll have it ready to go out of the box.
I do believe that the K7 is supposed to be released sometime this summer. =) can't wait.
where are you getting the cards so cheap, and what brand are they??
the place i work for is buying Madge cards for $200 each. I didn't think you could get token ring at an affordable price.
just because a company makes a program open source does not mean that they have to give the program away for free. it just means that they are distributing the source code with the program.
the point is:
you can still make money selling open source software.
remember, open source source software does not necessarily mean free software.
the intent is to for people to "pay" for it by contributing to it in some way, shape, or form.
Whether that be by actively developing Linux, by developing software for Linux, by supporting people that develop for Linux, or by submitting a bug report whenever something goes wrong, the idea is that you contribute something.
Publicity stunt? Why not. It brings attention to the problem.
The problem is that MS put a clause in their EULA that they aren't abiding by.
Since the EULA is basically a contract between MS and the consumer, MS not following one portion of the contract nullifies the whole thing for both parties. So long as the consumer followed all the terms of the contract, and it was MS that broke their end, the contract is void.
This means:
1) the consumer can procede with legal action against MS for breach of contract.
2) the consumer cannot be bound to a void contract, so anything they do with the software cannot be considered in violation of the EULA (since it is already void).
(my legaleze is a little shaky, could someone back me up on #2?)