I would use KDE, but I've been using XFCE in a certain configuration (e.g. large auto hiding panel on the bottom where I put launchers and tear off menus for all the programs I use) for probably 10 years now and everything else is counter productive to me. I have KDE (to play with, and I use some KDE based apps in XFCE) but I seldom actually start it as a desktop environment.
The day I can no longer configure XFCE the way I like it is the day I'll consider switching. (I usually keep using the same version of XFCE for a long time... usually for the life of the OS, or the box itself)
As opposed to what... keeping things the way they are now, introducing mandatory minimum sentences for growing a fucking plant, raising the stakes and increasing the profits for illegal growers and distributors, while doing even more harm to society? Quality and product safety will also regress and cause more harm.
There is a breaking point with taxation and control of substances. Don't cross it. Yes, they made that mistake with tobacco in the early 90's in Ontario. Everyone and their dog was selling contraband cigarettes, including people's brands of choice too. There was at least one person, if not more, in every work place. They gave in, reduced the taxes so that smokes were back down to less than $3 a pack and the contraband stopped immediately. (People were stuck with cartons of these cigarettes) Then, of course, the anti tobacco lobbyists keep running their mouths and the price crept up again and now they have this new problem that they can't combat. It's very difficult to enforce because of the loopholes that the native people have.
There is still some control though, you still don't have random assholes and criminal gangs growing tobacco and selling bags of it and getting violent over it. If they made tobacco illegal like cannabis there certainly would be more trouble.
It still doesn't change the fact that it's a picture of burgers, not valuable art. Note that I don't care about your silly laws, so don't try and justify your pettiness with that.
I know you are "allowed" to take pictures of things that other people create.
You mean if someone right clicked on her background and saved that little skyline of Houston? That would be a pretty small minded thing to object to.
I laugh at that photographer, spending all that time and energy to assert his authority because he posted his pictures online and people are using parts of them.
That the DMCA allows such takedowns without any consideration reflects badly on Americans.
Funny you should mention something like that. We paid a photographer a thousand dollars to take pictures at my sister's wedding and they were TERRIBLE, when we finally got them (my mother had to hound him). He wouldn't surrender the negatives either. My uncle, with his low end 35 mm camera took much better photos and those are the ones that ended up in our albums. Today, most anyone (even inexperienced) with a DSLR could do a much better job than the photographer that ripped us off.
Fuck you... it's a picture of the Houston skyline, not some work of "art". Similarly, the other photo they are whining about is a picture of burgers from a restaurant.
For fuck's sake, get over yourselves. So you took a picture, and someone liked it and used it. Do you honestly think that you're something special when you click the button on your camera? How about the people who designed and built the structures you took the picture of? What about the restaurant that created the meal you snapped a picture of? (author of post). What if these people demanded royalties or some other form of attribution that they pull out of their asses? They CAN'T, luckily for you. (Though they do try in some countries)
I have taken pictures and one of them comes to mind. I didn't think a lot of it at the time, it was a picture of the sun setting over an island with a lighthouse, in the early spring when the ice was breaking up. Pink sky, reflecting on the ice. Yes, I stood in exactly the right place and focused the camera to get the best shot I could, to capture that effect. It was quite a nice picture and I was happy that a bunch of people liked it and used it. They don't need my fucking permission... I put it on the Internet and they took it.
That's actually how it often works in my country (Canada). Dumb assed politicians make bad laws, and judges make rulings that challenge them. (or invalidate them until re-established by a higher court or after remedies).
Judges in my country aren't elected assholes with agendas and constituents to serve, though. Most of them are pretty fair and this is how unfair laws get fixed, here.
Even when they are properly impartial, they are manipulated into not considering circumstances, only "The Law". It says the proposed damages/conviction/sentence or whatever the case may be, are valid.
I sure wouldn't want a panel of righteous prigs deciding my fate, either. (There's of course that involved too in reality)
Well... people don't mind Steam popping up ads for games at appropriate times, because it informs them about new games (some of them you wouldn't otherwise even know about, indy titles etc.), and informs them about excellent deals. It is not third party advertising. Without it, how would you know that even a popular title is being offered for $10 for the next few days? You can view trailers and screenshots right on the spot, too, to aid in your decisions. Even if I am in a hurry (e.g. shutting down because I have to get back to Linux to do something important) I would regret closing down the ad window without clicking Next to see what is being offered.
That is useful advertising. I'm afraid that's not at all the same thing as an ad supported operating system. An operating system is supposed to be an unobtrusive environment for running applications.
"Rather than employ special tools provided by other vendors to delete BackDoor.Flashback.39, Doctor Web offers you to make use of the time-tested Dr.Web Light for Mac OS X rated among the top free applications in the Mac App Store. It will easily find and neutralize the Trojan horse and other malicious programs posing threat to your Mac." (quote from article)
I don't imagine this would be that difficult to ferret out on MacOS. It's not a complex morass of liquishit like Windows. Does the botnet trojan even run as root to be able to dig itself in? You don't need root to do normal user things like open network connections to participate in a botnet. I don't think there is any "rootkit" behaviour here.
Most of the manufacturers that sell to big box retailers take the returns back from the retailers no questions asked, too. It's just the price of doing business with big retailers. It works out in the wash.
I first learned this when I was younger... I had a job at a factory owned by a popular carpet cleaner/vacuum/sweeper manufacturer. My job was to manage the returns from Canadian retailers. At first I was doing what I thought was right. They entrusted me to do a job. I had places on the forms I was given to reject the returns, and give a reason. Most of the time the units were just used and jam packed full of dirt, and the reason for the return was "doesn't work". Obviously, it did work. Anyway, the head office got on my ass (yes, the suit talked to me himself on the phone) and basically I wasn't reeaaallly supposed to do that unless they were just some joe blow appliance store. When it was a big retailer I was to just process the returns no questions asked and salvage what I could. Once I received them, they were mine to deal with... clean them up for sale as "seconds" or "reconditioned" or keep any useful parts. It was a big "whatever" to the company.
These big box retailers have a lot of clout and get treated differently than smaller stores. They don't need to give people a hard time about returns.
I do exercise my freedom. I don't use that shit. If I had to, I'd go back to Windows because it would be pointless. I've been using this stuff long enough to know what my options are.
I do put in the time to have exactly, and only what I want.... and I probably shouldn't have said "the major distros" though there is a lot that I don't like about some of the most mainstream ones (bloat, complexity and dependencies on things I mostly wouldn't want etc.). I'm thinking mostly about the one that has the most marketing force and the one that new users are most likely to encounter. I've often thought "I don't want people to think this is what "Linux" is like".
The day I can't have a simple system is the day I stop using this. It absolutely sickens me what the major distros are doing these days. That's not "freedom"
The day I can't run a kernel, a minimal set of daemons, a shell, an X11 window manager started only when I choose to, and a bunch of scripts that tie it all together is the day I might as well just use Windows.
I already have to keep that around to boot into for my games anyway, since development of Linux ports has lost momentum. The last good game I bought for Linux was Quake 4. Unreal Tournament 3 was a wake up call for me... they lied and procrastinated. It was when I resigned myself to buying Windows games.
I'm afraid I'm skeptical about this Wayland. I'm not sure I want things to change. We'll see when the time comes.
You wouldn't like being taken into custody in Canada then. You're always strip searched before even going into a police holding cell. They usually take all your stuff too. These things are definitely going to happen on admission to a correctional facility. It's been that way for as long as I can remember.
Now, the summary is misleading. It's not for "any offense", it's simply for offenses that cause you to be put in a jail cell. (Which is probably most offenses in the U.S. at least temporarily)
However, at least in Canada you have a good chance of being released on your own recognizance after being charged with most minor offenses. You may or may not be searched then.
Of course they don't all use such circular logic, or I wouldn't even be here. I'm commenting on this shit because I LIKE Americans. It pisses me off. I'd be laughing at you cunts if you were all like the stereotypes I use:-)
Seriously though, what prompted me to say that is the circular logic that tends to be used by authority types, to justify heavy handed behaviour.
Well then, people's applications fail and they say fuck Firefox. That's what such arrogance causes.
I did a new build of Chromium not long ago that refused to load a perfectly good libflashplayer.so because they decided it was too old. I don't have time for that shit. There might not have even been a newer x86_64 flashplayer available. It's not their job to force security. Load the plugin or fuck off. I find that offensive, so I just went back to my previous build (I tar up the old before replacing it). I wasn't happy with a regression in WebGL (with ATI drivers at least) anyway. My previous build worked better.
A lot of people (Windows users) will just click that big blue e to go to their arcade sites etc. instead of dealing with this. They cancel the Java update prompts because they are intrusive and pop up at annoying times.
Warn (nag at runtime even), but do not disable. Even Microsoft, with their infinite arrogance, knows this.
You're right of course, but Americans in general do have a knack for circular logic. Mostly the authority types, to justify it. (That's what I was thinking when I said it, anyway)
For example:
Swat team busts into the family home with flashbangs and guns... shoots the dog, terrorizes the children, tears the place apart to find a bag of weed and then they turn around and charge the suspect with CHILD ENDANGERMENT because having marijuana caused them to have to come and do that.
Someone who resists overbearing authority (self appointed in this case) is "thuggish".
For those arguing technicalities like "we don't need you to do that" not meaning "stop", and the rules of Neighborhood Watch not actually being laws, well, they always give lots of room for shooting yourself in the foot. It doesn't mean you won't answer for your actions later... and Zimmerman will, one way or another.
As for those saying "I hope you don't go walking in Florida neighborhoods you don't live in" if I lived in Florida I would have a carrying permit for a hand gun too.
Note that I am not "anti american" I am "anti authority", and America has a problem with authority out of control.
A "self appointed" Neighborhood Watch snitch engaged his quarry after being "advised" not to. They are also "advised" not to carry guns. Spin your words however you like.
If they don't do as "advised" they can be subject to prosecution for their actions because they do not have police powers of authority.
If you need citations, then by golly, you go and look it up. It's not my prerogative to make you believe me. I did my reading.
It doesn't even matter if he was beaten... he should be.. We don't have to recognize the authority of Neighbourhood Watch snitches. If they think there is an issue, they are to call the police. That's it. If they engage, WE have the right to self defense. They don't have police powers and if they attempt to bar my egress I won't hesitate to use as much force as necessary.
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I would use KDE, but I've been using XFCE in a certain configuration (e.g. large auto hiding panel on the bottom where I put launchers and tear off menus for all the programs I use) for probably 10 years now and everything else is counter productive to me. I have KDE (to play with, and I use some KDE based apps in XFCE) but I seldom actually start it as a desktop environment.
The day I can no longer configure XFCE the way I like it is the day I'll consider switching. (I usually keep using the same version of XFCE for a long time... usually for the life of the OS, or the box itself)
Third... thanks for maintaining one of the few remaining bastions of sanity among Linux distributions, Pat, AlienBob and all other contributors.
As opposed to what... keeping things the way they are now, introducing mandatory minimum sentences for growing a fucking plant, raising the stakes and increasing the profits for illegal growers and distributors, while doing even more harm to society? Quality and product safety will also regress and cause more harm.
There is a breaking point with taxation and control of substances. Don't cross it. Yes, they made that mistake with tobacco in the early 90's in Ontario. Everyone and their dog was selling contraband cigarettes, including people's brands of choice too. There was at least one person, if not more, in every work place. They gave in, reduced the taxes so that smokes were back down to less than $3 a pack and the contraband stopped immediately. (People were stuck with cartons of these cigarettes) Then, of course, the anti tobacco lobbyists keep running their mouths and the price crept up again and now they have this new problem that they can't combat. It's very difficult to enforce because of the loopholes that the native people have.
There is still some control though, you still don't have random assholes and criminal gangs growing tobacco and selling bags of it and getting violent over it. If they made tobacco illegal like cannabis there certainly would be more trouble.
It still doesn't change the fact that it's a picture of burgers, not valuable art. Note that I don't care about your silly laws, so don't try and justify your pettiness with that.
I know you are "allowed" to take pictures of things that other people create.
Absolutely... she's a twat, but so is he for issuing a takedown notice for her site, over the use of part of his skyline photo.
You mean if someone right clicked on her background and saved that little skyline of Houston? That would be a pretty small minded thing to object to.
I laugh at that photographer, spending all that time and energy to assert his authority because he posted his pictures online and people are using parts of them.
That the DMCA allows such takedowns without any consideration reflects badly on Americans.
Funny you should mention something like that. We paid a photographer a thousand dollars to take pictures at my sister's wedding and they were TERRIBLE, when we finally got them (my mother had to hound him). He wouldn't surrender the negatives either. My uncle, with his low end 35 mm camera took much better photos and those are the ones that ended up in our albums. Today, most anyone (even inexperienced) with a DSLR could do a much better job than the photographer that ripped us off.
Fuck you... it's a picture of the Houston skyline, not some work of "art". Similarly, the other photo they are whining about is a picture of burgers from a restaurant.
For fuck's sake, get over yourselves. So you took a picture, and someone liked it and used it. Do you honestly think that you're something special when you click the button on your camera? How about the people who designed and built the structures you took the picture of? What about the restaurant that created the meal you snapped a picture of? (author of post). What if these people demanded royalties or some other form of attribution that they pull out of their asses? They CAN'T, luckily for you. (Though they do try in some countries)
I have taken pictures and one of them comes to mind. I didn't think a lot of it at the time, it was a picture of the sun setting over an island with a lighthouse, in the early spring when the ice was breaking up. Pink sky, reflecting on the ice. Yes, I stood in exactly the right place and focused the camera to get the best shot I could, to capture that effect. It was quite a nice picture and I was happy that a bunch of people liked it and used it. They don't need my fucking permission... I put it on the Internet and they took it.
That's actually how it often works in my country (Canada). Dumb assed politicians make bad laws, and judges make rulings that challenge them. (or invalidate them until re-established by a higher court or after remedies).
Judges in my country aren't elected assholes with agendas and constituents to serve, though. Most of them are pretty fair and this is how unfair laws get fixed, here.
Even when they are properly impartial, they are manipulated into not considering circumstances, only "The Law". It says the proposed damages/conviction/sentence or whatever the case may be, are valid.
I sure wouldn't want a panel of righteous prigs deciding my fate, either. (There's of course that involved too in reality)
You can kiss this big white Canadian ass. Put us on whatever "list" you wish to, we will not be intimidated.
Well... people don't mind Steam popping up ads for games at appropriate times, because it informs them about new games (some of them you wouldn't otherwise even know about, indy titles etc.), and informs them about excellent deals. It is not third party advertising. Without it, how would you know that even a popular title is being offered for $10 for the next few days? You can view trailers and screenshots right on the spot, too, to aid in your decisions. Even if I am in a hurry (e.g. shutting down because I have to get back to Linux to do something important) I would regret closing down the ad window without clicking Next to see what is being offered.
That is useful advertising. I'm afraid that's not at all the same thing as an ad supported operating system. An operating system is supposed to be an unobtrusive environment for running applications.
I'm surprised that Dr. Web hasn't come out with a tool for this. (They are pretty damned good at that sort of thing)
Actually, not a specific tool, but...
http://news.drweb.com/show/?i=2354&lng=en&c=14
"Rather than employ special tools provided by other vendors to delete BackDoor.Flashback.39, Doctor Web offers you to make use of the time-tested Dr.Web Light for Mac OS X rated among the top free applications in the Mac App Store. It will easily find and neutralize the Trojan horse and other malicious programs posing threat to your Mac." (quote from article)
I don't imagine this would be that difficult to ferret out on MacOS. It's not a complex morass of liquishit like Windows. Does the botnet trojan even run as root to be able to dig itself in? You don't need root to do normal user things like open network connections to participate in a botnet. I don't think there is any "rootkit" behaviour here.
Most of the manufacturers that sell to big box retailers take the returns back from the retailers no questions asked, too. It's just the price of doing business with big retailers. It works out in the wash.
I first learned this when I was younger... I had a job at a factory owned by a popular carpet cleaner/vacuum/sweeper manufacturer. My job was to manage the returns from Canadian retailers. At first I was doing what I thought was right. They entrusted me to do a job. I had places on the forms I was given to reject the returns, and give a reason. Most of the time the units were just used and jam packed full of dirt, and the reason for the return was "doesn't work". Obviously, it did work. Anyway, the head office got on my ass (yes, the suit talked to me himself on the phone) and basically I wasn't reeaaallly supposed to do that unless they were just some joe blow appliance store. When it was a big retailer I was to just process the returns no questions asked and salvage what I could. Once I received them, they were mine to deal with... clean them up for sale as "seconds" or "reconditioned" or keep any useful parts. It was a big "whatever" to the company.
These big box retailers have a lot of clout and get treated differently than smaller stores. They don't need to give people a hard time about returns.
I do exercise my freedom. I don't use that shit. If I had to, I'd go back to Windows because it would be pointless. I've been using this stuff long enough to know what my options are.
I do put in the time to have exactly, and only what I want. ... and I probably shouldn't have said "the major distros" though there is a lot that I don't like about some of the most mainstream ones (bloat, complexity and dependencies on things I mostly wouldn't want etc.). I'm thinking mostly about the one that has the most marketing force and the one that new users are most likely to encounter. I've often thought "I don't want people to think this is what "Linux" is like".
The day I can't have a simple system is the day I stop using this. It absolutely sickens me what the major distros are doing these days. That's not "freedom"
The day I can't run a kernel, a minimal set of daemons, a shell, an X11 window manager started only when I choose to, and a bunch of scripts that tie it all together is the day I might as well just use Windows.
I already have to keep that around to boot into for my games anyway, since development of Linux ports has lost momentum. The last good game I bought for Linux was Quake 4. Unreal Tournament 3 was a wake up call for me... they lied and procrastinated. It was when I resigned myself to buying Windows games.
I'm afraid I'm skeptical about this Wayland. I'm not sure I want things to change. We'll see when the time comes.
You wouldn't like being taken into custody in Canada then. You're always strip searched before even going into a police holding cell. They usually take all your stuff too. These things are definitely going to happen on admission to a correctional facility. It's been that way for as long as I can remember.
Now, the summary is misleading. It's not for "any offense", it's simply for offenses that cause you to be put in a jail cell. (Which is probably most offenses in the U.S. at least temporarily)
However, at least in Canada you have a good chance of being released on your own recognizance after being charged with most minor offenses. You may or may not be searched then.
Of course they don't all use such circular logic, or I wouldn't even be here. I'm commenting on this shit because I LIKE Americans. It pisses me off. I'd be laughing at you cunts if you were all like the stereotypes I use :-)
Seriously though, what prompted me to say that is the circular logic that tends to be used by authority types, to justify heavy handed behaviour.
Well then, people's applications fail and they say fuck Firefox. That's what such arrogance causes.
I did a new build of Chromium not long ago that refused to load a perfectly good libflashplayer.so because they decided it was too old. I don't have time for that shit. There might not have even been a newer x86_64 flashplayer available. It's not their job to force security. Load the plugin or fuck off. I find that offensive, so I just went back to my previous build (I tar up the old before replacing it). I wasn't happy with a regression in WebGL (with ATI drivers at least) anyway. My previous build worked better.
A lot of people (Windows users) will just click that big blue e to go to their arcade sites etc. instead of dealing with this. They cancel the Java update prompts because they are intrusive and pop up at annoying times.
Warn (nag at runtime even), but do not disable. Even Microsoft, with their infinite arrogance, knows this.
Last time I checked, walking down the street isn't a felony in any state.
You're right of course, but Americans in general do have a knack for circular logic. Mostly the authority types, to justify it. (That's what I was thinking when I said it, anyway)
For example:
Swat team busts into the family home with flashbangs and guns... shoots the dog, terrorizes the children, tears the place apart to find a bag of weed and then they turn around and charge the suspect with CHILD ENDANGERMENT because having marijuana caused them to have to come and do that.
Someone who resists overbearing authority (self appointed in this case) is "thuggish".
For those arguing technicalities like "we don't need you to do that" not meaning "stop", and the rules of Neighborhood Watch not actually being laws, well, they always give lots of room for shooting yourself in the foot. It doesn't mean you won't answer for your actions later... and Zimmerman will, one way or another.
As for those saying "I hope you don't go walking in Florida neighborhoods you don't live in" if I lived in Florida I would have a carrying permit for a hand gun too.
Note that I am not "anti american" I am "anti authority", and America has a problem with authority out of control.
I'm a thug for not submitting to some self appointed vigilante's authority? You Americans and your circular logic.
A "self appointed" Neighborhood Watch snitch engaged his quarry after being "advised" not to. They are also "advised" not to carry guns. Spin your words however you like.
If they don't do as "advised" they can be subject to prosecution for their actions because they do not have police powers of authority.
If you need citations, then by golly, you go and look it up. It's not my prerogative to make you believe me. I did my reading.
It doesn't even matter if he was beaten... he should be.. We don't have to recognize the authority of Neighbourhood Watch snitches. If they think there is an issue, they are to call the police. That's it. If they engage, WE have the right to self defense. They don't have police powers and if they attempt to bar my egress I won't hesitate to use as much force as necessary.