The support for him in the norwegian media has been POSITIVE. Almost exclusivly positive.
People like Gisle Hannemyr, Tron Oegrim and others (computer-dinosaurs in norway) is supporting his case. EFN (Electronic Frotnier Norway) is supporting his case. People like me has handed out flyers at the university.
My neighbour, which is.. 78... watched TV and asked me about him. (I'm the local "computerfreak" who knows "everything" about internet, where I live:)) Even that old bloke supports Jon;)
In other words, most normal people support him.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
It has been noted in several articles that your case was mentioned in the Norwiegen Parliament.
Have they done anything about the treatement you, and your father received from the Police? Or have they decided to sit on the and let the MPAA run the show of things?
I can answer that question for you. The Norwegian Parliament doesn't bug into police affairs. The case was brought before the parliament - with requests to review the laws. Not to comment on the specific case.
If I understood the press right, The question was if the laws should allow more reverse engineering and more freedom than they already do.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Is there a standard for streaming media? If not, then one should be made, or followed. If MicroSofts format is good enough, let's use it. Let's make a Linux player for the same format. If its not good enough, let's make a windows-media-player thingie that can take care of Micro$ofts standard, and let's make our own in addition.
Personally I think that we should follow the already established standards - instead of reinventing the wheel time after time again. There is no need for a new standard, if the current is good enough.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Re:Norway was never in alliance with Nazi Germany.
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Yes, I realize it was Quisling's alliance. The real problem is when he took over, the adminstration, police, etc, just obeyed his orders.
Under threat. A lot of teachers said "No way" to teaching nazi ideology. They was put in prison.
The same goes for all other parts of "administration/police" and so forth. When you've got the choice between rotting in jail and unwilling cooperation - you choose the later.
Even when it came to things that violated human rights.
Yes, we're ashamed of the way we threated the jews. Packed them together and got them sent away. It was not good. Except for that? Well, I dunno
You should also know - that at least where I come for - Kvinesdal - we had something kalled "Knaben Gruver" -- that is "The mines of Knaben" or something in english. They dug for molybdenium(?) there. The germans used PoW's and so forth to dig it out. Well, what happened? Well, the english / allied just.. bombed.. the place. Lots of norwegians, russians and other POWs were killed.
That made very many norwegians (the place in norway i am from) hate the damn english pilots - at that time.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Norway was never in alliance with Nazi Germany.
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Eh? You should really read some more history. Norway was INVADED by germany. Norway shot and sunk the german warship "blucher" when it was coming in the Oslo fjord.
The problem was that norway didn't have very much defence in those days. There were some cannons shooting at boats, and a pretty nifty resistance-movement, but except for that - nothing.
But - the government never ever supported nazi germany. The government the nazi instantiated of course did - it was lead by Quisling - who was executed after the war ended.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
it was jon both times. The guy is arrested, and I've printed out a couple of hundred flyers here at the university of Oslo. We are preparing a demonstration - due Friday.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
It is NOT fake. It's on the frontpage of VG - one of the norways major newspapaers. Unfortunately. -- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
anon.penet.fi was in finland. Norway / Sweden has a history beeing "pretty ok". This is the greatest tragedy of the norwegian justice-system ever. I'm crying, I'm mad, I'm totally insane after this. Its time to do something. I'm calling for demonstrations in norway. I just have to make som posters and splat them over the walls.
*argh*
posters, flyers, and so forth..
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Yes. It is Real. VG - one of the major three norwegian newspapers broke the story with BIG letters on the front page today. They seems to be pretty PRO-jon though.
I'm going to contact norwegian press later today, and try to rally them against the police. In addition, I will start printing BIG demonstration-notices and hang up all around the university. I've never been this pissed up at my government before.
DAMN IT!
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
No! Security by filtering out dangerous ports does not work. Rather, one should filter unknown ports by default and specifically let "safe" ports through the firewall. Look at Hotmail/other webmail providers' problems with embedded javascript in email that are supposed to be escaped out or removed.
I disagree. By "default deny" - you deny your own workers the freedom they should enjoy. Your workers will not like the fact that they cannot sit at their office 'after hours' and IRC (and DCC) all they want. If you by default deny UDP, then they cannot use ICQ all they want. And so forth.
Of course, one doesn't want the workers to use IRC in the day -- but by denying them access to it - you make them "pissed". The employees won't like to be 'limited'. They feel untrusted then.
I know that if I was at a workplace where the policy was "default deny" - then I would either try to crack the system, or I would find myself a new job - since they obviously didn't trust me.
The filtering of default netbus/bo/other ports, is because the standard-scanners only scan for standard-open ports. Nobody would take the time to scan a large corporation on every port on every host. That would send the alarmclocks of the firewalls chiming all day and night. A single probe for one machine on one port - wouldn't trigger very much.
No, block all ports known trojans reside on, and continue blocking new ports, when new trojans use new ports. But don't do a "default deny" - since that would block to much.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
In order to hire competent staff in this area, you have to already have staff in place that knows how to hire competent people. Can HR do this?
What is HR ? But, as long as they have a server admin, they have someone that knows a BIT about security, not necessarily MUCH. But I would say that most server admins are competent to find the people who can secure the systems.
When time to market is the most crucial factor, "Security? we can just add that on later".
I know, the system I admin (kvinesdalsnett), was cracked 24.des'98 . It was the worst christmas of my life. Stupid me had overlooked the bufferoverflow in qpopper2.2. Boy, did I learn that I needed to read bugtraq everyday (Ohyes, I did..:-)
We didn't rush things to the market though. It was just (then) incompetent little me who forgot to check all daemons.
Would you now buy from CD Universe with a credit card?
Of course I want to. They're bound to have tighter security than fort knox about now. Their sysadmin is probably having nightmares about people breaking into their system, and using most of his spare time digging into more books about securing their sites, and so forth. I'll bet their site is one of the safer sites on the net about now.:)
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
No. The sysadmins should know *as much as possible*, and in bigger companies, there should be *several* of them. There will always be the risk of an inside job - but the sysadmins SHOULD be trusted people. Only then can they do their job the way it should be done.
The sysadmins should have full access to everything, and know as much as possible, so that they can squash a bug if they find one, without delay.
If an article about a bug in program foo is published tomorrow, it should be fixed as soon as the first sysadmin reads about it. He should not need to call sysadmin 4, so that he can fix it. Especially not if sa.4 is on vacation..
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Its time for companies to start securing their systems. First off, *really* important information should not be on computers hooked up to the internet. But, a lot of computers need to be on the net - so here we go.
First of, they all need a computer-staff, and their own "computer security officer". There should of course be password security - but more important - people should be educated about email attachments, trojan horses, and so forth.
Servers should be under constant surveilance. The admins should always know every single program, which version it is, and so forth. They should keep their eyes open, reading bugtraq and other sources every single day.
A firewall is also a very good idea, for these kind of companies. They do need to be configured correctly, and block out common "trojan-ports" (12345 (netbus), 31337 (bo), and so forth). This to ensure that no sloppy employee gets his computer backdoored -- and the rest of the net gets access to it. If anybody gains access on ANY of the hosts behind the firewall, the entire network is "compromised" (to a certain degree).
They should also have a fully switched network, or preferably, implement encrypted protocolls for data transfers internally, so that even if ONE host got cracked, packetsniffing would do no good.
Ohwell, the list goes on and on and on. The important things is -- every big company should tighten up their security REALLY good. They should have their own staff looking after it.
Smalltime companies should do their very best too -- but they don't have that many computers to protect - and therefore don't need that big a staff.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Netscape 4.x needs replacing urgently if it is to catch up with IE.
Heck, I don't care about IE as its not available on Linux (as far as I know?:). I want a stable browser, and I want it now.
I do however think that Netscape has lost their windows market. More and more people buy computers, and netscape is NOT preinstalled. The result is that people learn that "internet equals internet explorer".
I'm afraid microsofts tactics have succeeded. They've beaten netscape in the windows market, and I don't think anything can make it different - except if netscape/mozilla suddenly becomes something *extremely* much better and featurefilled than IE. That, unfortunately, will not happen.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Browserwatch could have done better by summarizing the content themselves,
I disagree. Doing it the way they did it, let everyone do their own thinking. Maybe browserwatch would've been inaccurate at some point. Now we can all make up our minds, instead of having to rely on them summarizing it correctly.
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
I'm excited to see that Mozilla is nearing completion. When it reaches a more stable state than current netscape, I'll switch.
I also look forward to Opera. When I was a windows-user, my only browser was Opera. I wouldn't be without it. How Mozilla will compare to Opera -- well, time will show. It'll probably have more releases, more features, and so on.
Ohwell, time will show.:)
-- "Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Why is it that companies I praise for a while, suddenly turns bad and start patenting ideas? I've recomended google to everybody I know for the last 6 months or so - And now they screw it up. Thypically.
Patenting software ideas is a bad thing. Now the ranking system will be patented for.. is it 25 years? That's.. stupid.. plain stupid.
Of course they should be praised for having a nice idea. And patents could've been OK - if they lasted a year or something. But 25 freaking years? yargh. I'm out looking for a new search engine, that's for sure. (and sending some cute emails to google, of course..)
Are supposedly not affected, because RSAREF shouldn't have been exported from the United States.
Yup. And If I've understood everything correctly, you would be pretty stupid if you compiled it WITH rsaref.:) If i remember correctly, it makes things less secure.
I don't doubt that this spammer contributed to AOL's network problems, but it seems like AOL is using them as a scapegoat to use as an excuse for their poor network structure. $600,000 worth? Nope. A big chunk of that money was recovered because the spammers were illegally using AOL's trademark, but AOL is trying to push it as "They clogged up our network."
Eh? Do you have any idea how much load it causes a poor mailserver or three to have when they receive millions of spammails?
A couple of weeks ago I read about a danish university who had spam for some 30k students or something coming in. That sure as hell downed their systems. I'm sure spammers can down aol too.
Don't blame aol because they critizise the spammer. PRAISE them!
While the problem of Spam seems to have lessened in recent years (it did for me, anyway), I still think Spammers should be hit with everything we can must.
Lessened? If anything, it has increased. My hotmail account is receiving more spam than ever. My real account isn't receiving anything, but I always munge it if I post anywhere.. if I don't use my hotmail address when I post that is.
The hotmail address, which I use at news, in guestbooks, and 'everywhere' is on the other hand filled to it brims with spam. About 15 spams per day or something.
From obscenely detailed come-ons to porn sites (sent with disregard for the recipients age and sex) to illegal and fraudulant "business opportunities" they are so far from being legitimate and valid businesses it's beyond belief.
Recently I've received alot of "psst, hey johnny, here's the secret stock-information i promised" type of spam. The emails looks like emails sent to another person, personal in their look and style, with some hints about "those stocks" or "those thingomajigs" will rise in price.
I wonder if anybody falls for that kind of scams. People can't be THAT stupid, can they?
In six years as an Internet user I have never received a spam that was of any interest or relevance to me.
I've received ONE. It was a spammer trying to target an antispam site. The antispam site was a list of sites which carried spamtools, a list of their upstreams and the upstreams contact addresses - if i remember correctly. The site bragged about having shut down about 100 spammers so far (or something), and had about 200 to go.
The spammers obviously wanted them closed down. I for my part used it the same way I use powertech's SAR (smurf amplifier registry, at http://www.powertech.no/smurf/ - namely to mail the appropriate upstreams/ISP and kindly ask them to remove their stupid spammertool-selling downstream from the net. (I use the 'SAR' to mail netadmins about broadcast addresses replying to pings, with several replies).
Spam, on the other hand, is still in a sort of legal limbo.
One of the few areas on the Net i think need to be legislated.
There are lots upon lots of problems with spam. First of, the sender doesn't pay your costs of downloading the spam. They steal space from YOUR harddrive, they steal resources from YOUR processor, they steal resources from YOUR ram. Not to mention all the resources they STEAL from the ISP.
What we need is authentication when using the smtp servers. I think I saw an RFC about it resently, but I don't know about any smtpservers having implemented it yet. I look forward to giving out passwords to all my smtp users.
Ohwell, i lost the thread. Let's see if I can find it again.
Legislation.. yes.. legislation. We need it, simply because too many people just think "Hey, I can get a bunch of AOL cd's and spam away, once for each of these cd's.. that means,..,woah.. 10 times, for free..". There is no way to stop that kind of people, except for stopping giving out free cd's, or making laws. It think the later is the way to go.
The problem with that way, is that people could spam from countries which allows spam. If the US outlaws it, it would still be possible to spam from, say.. Norway (well, regulations about is coming here now). But there will always be countries where it is not forbidden.
There is where the RBL kicks in. We need a lot of legislation, in ADDITION to blackhole-lists. If we use a combination of the two, I think we'll have a great combination.
By the way, does anybody know of tools for filtering away a certain spam from the entire spool cataloge? If I receive spam, could I send it through a script/program, to remove it from all other mailboxes on my system? Does anybody know about such a program?
Stopping spammers should be every ISP's damned duty. Spammers ruin the internet. Since I'm my own ISP, my root/postmaster account nowadays receive a lot of doublebouncing email due to spammer spamming this ar-RemoveThis-cade@kvinesdal.com address. They just spam and spam. Ignoring the fact that people hate receiving it.
Even more worrying, are that lots of people BELIEVE in the spam they get. Especially newbies. I used to help a friend of mine at an Internet Cafe in Oslo. one of the customers got some spam to her hotmail account. Suddenly she CHEERED. She thought she had won a holiday to florida. It took some time to explain to her that it was a bogus spam. She wanted to try it out. "She had nothing to lose". Blah.
We need not only to educate ISP's to terminate spammers IMEDIATELY. (I recently got spammed by "helsekost.net" here in norway. Narviknett, the spammers isp DID NOT terminate the account, only issued a warning, and neither the webhotell or telia - the upstream of the webhotell cared to take action). We also need to educate people that spam should be DELETED/IGNORED and more preferably COMPLAINED ABOUT. One should NEVER EVER buy something advertised in spam.
Also, most spam is sent through relays. Most often these do not know that they are open for spamrelays. ALWAYS lookup the domain of the mailserver, and send some mail to postmaster@host, and abuse@isp / abuse@upstream and so forth. They will take care of stopping the relaying.
On UseNet, always try to trace the spam, and complaint to the ISP of the spammer. Spam should NEVER EVER be accepted. It should be terminated, at once.
Spammers are human waste. They don't deserve to be on the net.
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Non-necessari question, as the media has reported - EFF takes care of the defence-fund. They're getting him a top-notch lawyer.
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Not a necessary question for the interview.
.. 78 ... watched TV and asked me about him. (I'm the local "computerfreak" who knows "everything" about internet, where I live :)) Even that old bloke supports Jon ;)
The support for him in the norwegian media has been POSITIVE. Almost exclusivly positive.
People like Gisle Hannemyr, Tron Oegrim and others (computer-dinosaurs in norway) is supporting his case. EFN (Electronic Frotnier Norway) is supporting his case. People like me has handed out flyers at the university.
My neighbour, which is
In other words, most normal people support him.
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It has been noted in several articles that your case was mentioned in the Norwiegen Parliament.
Have they done anything about the treatement you, and your father received from the Police? Or have they decided to sit on the and let the MPAA run the show of things?
I can answer that question for you. The Norwegian Parliament doesn't bug into police affairs. The case was brought before the parliament - with requests to review the laws. Not to comment on the specific case.
If I understood the press right, The question was if the laws should allow more reverse engineering and more freedom than they already do.
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Is there a standard for streaming media? If not, then one should be made, or followed. If MicroSofts format is good enough, let's use it. Let's make a Linux player for the same format. If its not good enough, let's make a windows-media-player thingie that can take care of Micro$ofts standard, and let's make our own in addition.
Personally I think that we should follow the already established standards - instead of reinventing the wheel time after time again. There is no need for a new standard, if the current is good enough.
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Yes, I realize it was Quisling's alliance. The real problem is when he took over, the adminstration, police, etc, just obeyed his orders.
.. bombed .. the place. Lots of norwegians, russians and other POWs were killed.
Under threat. A lot of teachers said "No way" to teaching nazi ideology. They was put in prison.
The same goes for all other parts of "administration/police" and so forth. When you've got the choice between rotting in jail and unwilling cooperation - you choose the later.
Even when it came to things that violated human rights.
Yes, we're ashamed of the way we threated the jews. Packed them together and got them sent away. It was not good. Except for that? Well, I dunno
You should also know - that at least where I come for - Kvinesdal - we had something kalled "Knaben Gruver" -- that is "The mines of Knaben" or something in english. They dug for molybdenium(?) there. The germans used PoW's and so forth to dig it out. Well, what happened? Well, the english / allied just
That made very many norwegians (the place in norway i am from) hate the damn english pilots - at that time.
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Eh? You should really read some more history. Norway was INVADED by germany. Norway shot and sunk the german warship "blucher" when it was coming in the Oslo fjord.
The problem was that norway didn't have very much defence in those days. There were some cannons shooting at boats, and a pretty nifty resistance-movement, but except for that - nothing.
But - the government never ever supported nazi germany. The government the nazi instantiated of course did - it was lead by Quisling - who was executed after the war ended.
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or is this the actual author this time?
it was jon both times. The guy is arrested, and I've printed out a couple of hundred flyers here at the university of Oslo. We are preparing a demonstration - due Friday.
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It is NOT fake. It's on the frontpage of VG - one of the norways major newspapaers. Unfortunately.
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anon.penet.fi was in finland. Norway / Sweden has a history beeing "pretty ok". This is the greatest tragedy of the norwegian justice-system ever. I'm crying, I'm mad, I'm totally insane after this. Its time to do something. I'm calling for demonstrations in norway. I just have to make som posters and splat them over the walls.
*argh*
posters, flyers, and so forth..
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Yes. It is Real. VG - one of the major three norwegian newspapers broke the story with BIG letters on the front page today. They seems to be pretty PRO-jon though.
I'm going to contact norwegian press later today, and try to rally them against the police. In addition, I will start printing BIG demonstration-notices and hang up all around the university. I've never been this pissed up at my government before.
DAMN IT!
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No! Security by filtering out dangerous ports does not work. Rather, one should filter unknown ports by default and specifically let "safe" ports through the firewall. Look at Hotmail/other webmail providers' problems with embedded javascript in email that are supposed to be escaped out or removed.
I disagree. By "default deny" - you deny your own workers the freedom they should enjoy. Your workers will not like the fact that they cannot sit at their office 'after hours' and IRC (and DCC) all they want. If you by default deny UDP, then they cannot use ICQ all they want. And so forth.
Of course, one doesn't want the workers to use IRC in the day -- but by denying them access to it - you make them "pissed". The employees won't like to be 'limited'. They feel untrusted then.
I know that if I was at a workplace where the policy was "default deny" - then I would either try to crack the system, or I would find myself a new job - since they obviously didn't trust me.
The filtering of default netbus/bo/other ports, is because the standard-scanners only scan for standard-open ports. Nobody would take the time to scan a large corporation on every port on every host. That would send the alarmclocks of the firewalls chiming all day and night. A single probe for one machine on one port - wouldn't trigger very much.
No, block all ports known trojans reside on, and continue blocking new ports, when new trojans use new ports. But don't do a "default deny" - since that would block to much.
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In order to hire competent staff in this area, you have to already have staff in place that knows how to hire competent people. Can HR do this?
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What is HR ?
But, as long as they have a server admin, they have someone that knows a BIT about security, not necessarily MUCH. But I would say that most server admins are competent to find the people who can secure the systems.
When time to market is the most crucial factor, "Security? we can just add that on later".
I know, the system I admin (kvinesdalsnett), was cracked 24.des'98 . It was the worst christmas of my life. Stupid me had overlooked the bufferoverflow in qpopper2.2. Boy, did I learn that I needed to read bugtraq everyday (Ohyes, I did..
We didn't rush things to the market though. It was just (then) incompetent little me who forgot to check all daemons.
Would you now buy from CD Universe with a credit card?
Of course I want to. They're bound to have tighter security than fort knox about now. Their sysadmin is probably having nightmares about people breaking into their system, and using most of his spare time digging into more books about securing their sites, and so forth. I'll bet their site is one of the safer sites on the net about now.
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No. The sysadmins should know *as much as possible*, and in bigger companies, there should be *several* of them. There will always be the risk of an inside job - but the sysadmins SHOULD be trusted people. Only then can they do their job the way it should be done.
The sysadmins should have full access to everything, and know as much as possible, so that they can squash a bug if they find one, without delay.
If an article about a bug in program foo is published tomorrow, it should be fixed as soon as the first sysadmin reads about it. He should not need to call sysadmin 4, so that he can fix it. Especially not if sa.4 is on vacation..
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Did the crackers use Linux to break into these companies?
Sorry to disappoint you, but linux isn't a tool to crack into other peoples machines, even though a lot of kids these days seem to think so.
And the second question is, if these companies had been running Linux, would the crackers have been able to get in?
That depends on the configuration, as does it with Windows NiceTray.
I've heard it time after time, and I never stop to wonder. Why on earth do people think Linux equals cracking-tool ?
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Its time for companies to start securing their systems. First off, *really* important information should not be on computers hooked up to the internet. But, a lot of computers need to be on the net - so here we go.
First of, they all need a computer-staff, and their own "computer security officer". There should of course be password security - but more important - people should be educated about email attachments, trojan horses, and so forth.
Servers should be under constant surveilance. The admins should always know every single program, which version it is, and so forth. They should keep their eyes open, reading bugtraq and other sources every single day.
A firewall is also a very good idea, for these kind of companies. They do need to be configured correctly, and block out common "trojan-ports" (12345 (netbus), 31337 (bo), and so forth). This to ensure that no sloppy employee gets his computer backdoored -- and the rest of the net gets access to it. If anybody gains access on ANY of the hosts behind the firewall, the entire network is "compromised" (to a certain degree).
They should also have a fully switched network, or preferably, implement encrypted protocolls for data transfers internally, so that even if ONE host got cracked, packetsniffing would do no good.
Ohwell, the list goes on and on and on. The important things is -- every big company should tighten up their security REALLY good. They should have their own staff looking after it.
Smalltime companies should do their very best too -- but they don't have that many computers to protect - and therefore don't need that big a staff.
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Netscape 4.x needs replacing urgently if it is to catch up with IE.
Heck, I don't care about IE as its not available on Linux (as far as I know?:). I want a stable browser, and I want it now.
I do however think that Netscape has lost their windows market. More and more people buy computers, and netscape is NOT preinstalled. The result is that people learn that "internet equals internet explorer".
I'm afraid microsofts tactics have succeeded. They've beaten netscape in the windows market, and I don't think anything can make it different - except if netscape/mozilla suddenly becomes something *extremely* much better and featurefilled than IE. That, unfortunately, will not happen.
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"Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Browserwatch could have done better by summarizing the content themselves,
I disagree. Doing it the way they did it, let everyone do their own thinking. Maybe browserwatch would've been inaccurate at some point. Now we can all make up our minds, instead of having to rely on them summarizing it correctly.
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"Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
I'm excited to see that Mozilla is nearing completion. When it reaches a more stable state than current netscape, I'll switch.
:)
I also look forward to Opera. When I was a windows-user, my only browser was Opera. I wouldn't be without it. How Mozilla will compare to Opera -- well, time will show. It'll probably have more releases, more features, and so on.
Ohwell, time will show.
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"Rune Kristian Viken" - arcade@kvine-nospam.sdal.com - arcade@efnet
Why is it that companies I praise for a while, suddenly turns bad and start patenting ideas? I've recomended google to everybody I know for the last 6 months or so - And now they screw it up. Thypically.
.. is it 25 years? That's .. stupid .. plain stupid.
Patenting software ideas is a bad thing. Now the ranking system will be patented for
Of course they should be praised for having a nice idea. And patents could've been OK - if they lasted a year or something. But 25 freaking years? yargh. I'm out looking for a new search engine, that's for sure. (and sending some cute emails to google, of course..)
Are supposedly not affected, because RSAREF shouldn't have been exported from the United States.
:) If i remember correctly, it makes things less secure.
Yup. And If I've understood everything correctly, you would be pretty stupid if you compiled it WITH rsaref.
I could of course be wrong.
I don't doubt that this spammer contributed to AOL's network problems, but it seems like AOL is using them as a scapegoat to use as an excuse for their poor network structure. $600,000 worth? Nope. A big chunk of that money was recovered because the spammers were illegally using AOL's trademark, but AOL is trying to push it as "They clogged up our network."
Eh? Do you have any idea how much load it causes a poor mailserver or three to have when they receive millions of spammails?
A couple of weeks ago I read about a danish university who had spam for some 30k students or something coming in. That sure as hell downed their systems. I'm sure spammers can down aol too.
Don't blame aol because they critizise the spammer. PRAISE them!
While the problem of Spam seems to have lessened in recent years (it did for me, anyway), I still think Spammers should be hit with everything we can must.
.. if I don't use my hotmail address when I post that is.
Lessened? If anything, it has increased. My hotmail account is receiving more spam than ever. My real account isn't receiving anything, but I always munge it if I post anywhere
The hotmail address, which I use at news, in guestbooks, and 'everywhere' is on the other hand filled to it brims with spam. About 15 spams per day or something.
From obscenely detailed come-ons to porn sites (sent with disregard for the recipients age and sex) to illegal and fraudulant "business opportunities" they are so far from being legitimate and valid businesses it's beyond belief.
Recently I've received alot of "psst, hey johnny, here's the secret stock-information i promised" type of spam. The emails looks like emails sent to another person, personal in their look and style, with some hints about "those stocks" or "those thingomajigs" will rise in price.
I wonder if anybody falls for that kind of scams. People can't be THAT stupid, can they?
In six years as an Internet user I have never received a spam that was of any interest or relevance to me.
I've received ONE. It was a spammer trying to target an antispam site. The antispam site was a list of sites which carried spamtools, a list of their upstreams and the upstreams contact addresses - if i remember correctly. The site bragged about having shut down about 100 spammers so far (or something), and had about 200 to go.
The spammers obviously wanted them closed down. I for my part used it the same way I use powertech's SAR (smurf amplifier registry, at http://www.powertech.no/smurf/ - namely to mail the appropriate upstreams/ISP and kindly ask them to remove their stupid spammertool-selling downstream from the net. (I use the 'SAR' to mail netadmins about broadcast addresses replying to pings, with several replies).
That's the single interesting spam I've ever got.
Spam, on the other hand, is still in a sort of legal limbo.
..,woah.. 10 times, for free..". There is no way to stop that kind of people, except for stopping giving out free cd's, or making laws. It think the later is the way to go.
.. Norway (well, regulations about is coming here now). But there will always be countries where it is not forbidden.
One of the few areas on the Net i think need to be legislated.
There are lots upon lots of problems with spam. First of, the sender doesn't pay your costs of downloading the spam. They steal space from YOUR harddrive, they steal resources from YOUR processor, they steal resources from YOUR ram. Not to mention all the resources they STEAL from the ISP.
What we need is authentication when using the smtp servers. I think I saw an RFC about it resently, but I don't know about any smtpservers having implemented it yet. I look forward to giving out passwords to all my smtp users.
Ohwell, i lost the thread. Let's see if I can find it again.
Legislation.. yes.. legislation. We need it, simply because too many people just think "Hey, I can get a bunch of AOL cd's and spam away, once for each of these cd's.. that means,
The problem with that way, is that people could spam from countries which allows spam. If the US outlaws it, it would still be possible to spam from, say
There is where the RBL kicks in. We need a lot of legislation, in ADDITION to blackhole-lists. If we use a combination of the two, I think we'll have a great combination.
By the way, does anybody know of tools for filtering away a certain spam from the entire spool cataloge? If I receive spam, could I send it through a script/program, to remove it from all other mailboxes on my system? Does anybody know about such a program?
I'm happy for AOL in this case.
Stopping spammers should be every ISP's damned duty. Spammers ruin the internet. Since I'm my own ISP, my root/postmaster account nowadays receive a lot of doublebouncing email due to spammer spamming this ar-RemoveThis-cade@kvinesdal.com address. They just spam and spam. Ignoring the fact that people hate receiving it.
Even more worrying, are that lots of people BELIEVE in the spam they get. Especially newbies. I used to help a friend of mine at an Internet Cafe in Oslo. one of the customers got some spam to her hotmail account. Suddenly she CHEERED. She thought she had won a holiday to florida. It took some time to explain to her that it was a bogus spam. She wanted to try it out. "She had nothing to lose". Blah.
We need not only to educate ISP's to terminate spammers IMEDIATELY. (I recently got spammed by "helsekost.net" here in norway. Narviknett, the spammers isp DID NOT terminate the account, only issued a warning, and neither the webhotell or telia - the upstream of the webhotell cared to take action). We also need to educate people that spam should be DELETED/IGNORED and more preferably COMPLAINED ABOUT. One should NEVER EVER buy something advertised in spam.
Also, most spam is sent through relays. Most often these do not know that they are open for spamrelays. ALWAYS lookup the domain of the mailserver, and send some mail to postmaster@host, and abuse@isp / abuse@upstream and so forth. They will take care of stopping the relaying.
On UseNet, always try to trace the spam, and complaint to the ISP of the spammer. Spam should NEVER EVER be accepted. It should be terminated, at once.
Spammers are human waste. They don't deserve to be on the net.