What about cases of mistaken identity? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to be paying 100000 whatever dollars because of someone else pretending to be me.
?? What do you mean? If someone accidentally steal your username and password, and dials from your phone?
That should be a marketing campaign slogan to be used by Cauce in their fight against this crap.
*Absolutely NOT!* You should NOT, i repeat NOT just delete spam. That way, it will be just as with paper-spam in your mailbox. You just throw it away, you don't look at it. And worse -- you pay for it.
When you receive spam, you should *read the headers* (smtp-headers) of the spam, trace it back to its origin, and COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN and COMPLAIN. First to the open mailservers along the path, then to the originating ISP / webhotell, and then to the ISP / webhotells *upstream*.
That way, you'll make sure they are closed down and out of business. At least for a short period of time. Spammers should be *harassed*. One should do ones very best to make their lives miserable. !
Ooh, ohh, Transmeta news again! So fscking what; its hype like this that leads to vaporware.
Remember my friend, transmeta is not the ones hyping themselves. They are just secretive. And with all the top folks they've got -- well, then the press starts to speculate. It's the press that hype transmeta into the sky -- not the company itself. Therefore, I don't think it'll effekt their products.
I want to see a somewhat operating beta, or even a crappy alpha,
For all we know, they're through with both alfa and betatesting their thingomajigs. That's something we don't know anything about. They've not released anything, or said what they're going to release. In other words, their entire "hype" has been rumors. Of course, their website backs it up, but how fun it must be, to be those blokes in transmeta -- looking at how the press speculates, and then -- just for the kicks of it, they make that website..:-)
My point? Well, I don't think we should say "hype leads to vaporware" -- when its not they themselves that makes the hype.
Why not? Because, obviously, it's been compromised by the NSA. Why do you think they dropped actions against Zimmerman? I don't trust it. Then, I don't trust anything. If you don't want it read, don't write it down.
Nah. I would say not even NSA could've done that. They dropped the case against Zimmerman because it generated too much bad publicity.
just a thought..if microsoft uses a very specific design structure and all, why do their programs tend to be totally unstable and buggy as hell?
First, the following is PURE speculation, but consider it.
Personally, I believe that MicroSofts way to conquer the market, is to make the normal folks love them. They've made it. Regular people need help to save their word documents. MicroSoft has made it so painless that they learn it after beeing taught it just a couple-or-ten times. MicroSoft designes everything around the philosphy "it should be so easy to use that any idiot can do it". They fail. Of course they do. People stupidity is not easy to predict.
Anyways, to me, it seems like they first think "We need to make a mail program". Then they think "okay, what features should it have?".. Then they think "okay, how should it look?". Then they think "what kind of help should be available?".. and so forth.. They design everything around the user, instead of around the computer.
Personally, I think one should make the design of computer programs the same way as databases. You should separate things completely. When you want to make a program, commercially, you should assign one team to make the program-engine, and one team to design it and make it user-friendly. the "engine-team" should make an engine that follows the standard. It should have an "interface" which the user-interface should be able to 'hook into'. In other words, one should separate the processes completely.
>> Jon was contacted by a Norwegian firm (Simonsen >> & Musaus) who I assume threatened him with >> Norwegian copyright law >... And while quite possibly just a nusiance > (IANANL), it would cost $$$ to defend himself in > court. It'd be nice to see a 'DeCSS defense > fund' for this, so we can have the software's > fate legally decided in Norway once and for > all...
I'm not certain, but I think they would have to press charges, and then he could've had a lawyer appointed for free.
On the other hand, it cannot be THAT hard to open a lot of tripod / geocities accounts, post the code there, and ask a bunch of searh engines to spider it. With "DeCSS" as a meta-keyword.
Not an issue -- Come Jan 1, 2000, the WIPO (digital millenium act) will be in effect, making it a $1000 fine in the United States to discuss security holes.
Actually, do put your house on the net. And vote in a political representative not afraid to spend a few tax dollars on jail cells for criminals who engage in trespass.
Yeah, the US spends a couple of more tax dollars, and some Finish scriptkiddie cracks into your house. Hum.. I have a feeling the US laws and spendings don't apply there.
Of course Finland was a bad example. They would probably take action. But you get the idea.
Also, do you really think one would go straigt for the target? No. You bounce via various other compromised hosts, and of course - you try to cover your tracks after y ou've broken into something.
Slashdot folks, you all should be ashamed of yourselves. Who is next on your interview list, Satan himself? JP is the biggest sellout & poser, seeking to elevate his name at any cost, be it hackers, crackers, or broken laws.
the interview will consist of questions posted by us, the readers. If you want to critizise john, do it in questions. Let him make a fool of himself.
If you didn't get it, slashdot just gave us an oportunity to flame the guy to hell and back, and he obviously has commited himself to answer the questions...
We've been waiting far too long for Potato already. I've really started to enjoy Debian, but this reschedule is not a good thing. I'm still on the 2.0 Kernel, some of my servers will be for a long time, but I think its time for Debian users to get at 2.2 kernel in a stable distro.
On the other hand. It is a Good Thing that they wait until things are really stable. Releasing unstable products is a Bad Thing when people want to use the product on mission critical servers.
But, as someone already has pointet out. Will we see Potato released stable, before we see Kernel 2.4 stable?
Yes, your experience with Netscape points out a shortcoming, but not in Linux. Those of use who want the functionality you are missing are free to code it.
You are missing the point. As the article pointed out - if we don't catch up and start supporting everything that the freakin' microsoftbrowser supports, then people won't move to linux. People will move to windows. Then we lose the war.
The way to win, is to make mozilla usable for everyone.
All those who are able to! Go Hack! The rest of us, let's continue to support Linux and OSS.
but I think he should sue his ISP for censoring him with no legal justification
The problem with the people of US is that you want to SUE all the time. Why not just quit using that damned isp, tell people how stupid they are, and move to another ISP?
Damn, the world would be a much better place without all those stupid "suings".
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It must've been the most hilarious pr0n i've ever seen on the net;>
When I saw the subject I was going "yes yes yes" until I saw that it wasn't going to be made by id. I can remember playing Wolf3d on my 386. Maybe nostalgia has enhanced the experience, but it was a great game. Seems like as games get more realistic they also become harder to set up and configure properly . The simple game of Wolf3d was wonderful, I hope it can somehow be reproduced.
I really don't care who develop the game. The important thing is a *fast* and good graphics engine that may deliver speedy graphics and so forth.
Also, they should make it multiplayer. You should be able to choose if you want to play the nazi's, or the escaping prisoner, or maybe a deathmatch between several soldiers and prisoners.. ah, there are endless possibilities.
I'm really looking forward to slaying Hitler in his machine again.. uhh, if they dare to rip that of ID that is.
Humans are YAA (yet another animal). So who cares if a couple of people died? And beside, they were spammers so I personally enjoyed reading it. Quite frankly I hope this will happen more often in the future.
and all of these tasteless jokes would be appropriately tagged ``flamebait''.
I have a feeling my karma is suffering bad today. Spammmers deserve what they get. I cannot help it, but I *love* it when I hear about spammers, crackers and the like gets it bad.
I keep getting spam offering me 51 million email addresses for $115...that kind of thing makes me very annoyed. Put that together with someone with an attitude and a gun, and the spammer's gone.
Ah, I kinda like the tought. Fortunately I don't have a gun;)
Hmmm. Sounds like a good idea. When I reflect on the amount of spam that a couple of my old email addressed got, I can understand someone's motive to be driven to murder:-)
Actually, I've received PLENTY of spam from those bastards. I complained to their upstreams at leat a dozen of times. Nothing happened.
With Macintosh/Windows, they can go into a store, buy a game, take it home, put the CD in the drive, close the drive, click 'Next' a few times (as per the directions that magically pop up on the screen), click 'Finish' and have instant access to a new piece of software.
Yes, but installing the operating system would be just as difficult with windows as with Linux.
And, is it a good or a bad thing that things install easily? What happens when "some malicious user" makes a CD which auoinstalls a nice little virus? Grandpa things "Hmm.. whats on this CD" puts it in the CD-drive.. and wham.
"So have them download the software from the 'Net." Right there you open up a whole new can of worms. With IE and Windows, you can click on a link to an install file and get a nice window asking if you'd like to open that item. "Sure." Installation proceeds as above. Linux in its current state does not NEARLY meet the requirements of a "new" computer user or one who wants to do very simple, minimal tasks.
Yargh. NO! If its something I really HATE its trojans and autorun functions. I've been cleaning some hundred dmsetup / netbus infections the last year (maybe thousands).
People should NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO when they install programs. It shouldn't be an easy task they don't need to learn first. If it is, they'll infect themselves with dmsetup, netbus, backorifice and so on.
At least, the OS they use when they do such things, should have a real security-model. They shouldn't know the administrator password, and should never install anything as administrator. They should not be able to screw up the system, or cause a systemwide virusinfection - or open the system up for remote system administration by an accident (netbus,bo,etc).
I've had my Win98 system up for 12 days now, and my NT system at work (mainly due to the hard work of our PC support folks ensuring software and service packs we install are as stable as possible) has been up for not quite a month.
You call that stable? I don't have problems with my computers except hardware trouble. Maximum uptime 'till now is 60 days or so - but since I don't have an UPS.. well, it's kind of difficult to get more than 60days uptime for me. I need to upgrade hardware, sometimes the power fails and so forth. (argh, I hate the fcheck after a powerfailure.. I NEED that UPS.. NOW!)
Point is, I've not had a single operating-system caused kernel panic (and therefore have never needed to reboot my system because of the system itself). only kernel panic I had was when my cooler-fan stopped working (the processor did survive! All hail Cyrix!)
A simple background virus scanner is all that's required if he ever decides to get adventurous. I've never in my life had a computer virus under Windows. It has a lot to do with *how* you use your computer.
The background virus-scanner needs to be updated.
Furthermore, what if old grandpa decided that "chatrooms" (irc..) is a nice thing, and what does good old grandpa do when some chick send him a "video of herself"(in reality, 17 year old male playing around with netbus)? Well, of course - he opens the damn thing.
If I were to plug one of them into my box right now, most of the cycles would be admittedly unused.
Do you have unused cycles? What kind of person are you? Everybody should donate their unused cycles to distributed.net!:) ( http://www.distributed.net)
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What about cases of mistaken identity? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to be paying 100000 whatever dollars because of someone else pretending to be me.
?? What do you mean? If someone accidentally steal your username and password, and dials from your phone?
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That should be a marketing campaign slogan to be used by Cauce in their fight against this crap.
*Absolutely NOT!* You should NOT, i repeat NOT just delete spam. That way, it will be just as with paper-spam in your mailbox. You just throw it away, you don't look at it. And worse -- you pay for it.
When you receive spam, you should *read the headers* (smtp-headers) of the spam, trace it back to its origin, and COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN and COMPLAIN. First to the open mailservers along the path, then to the originating ISP / webhotell, and then to the ISP / webhotells *upstream*.
That way, you'll make sure they are closed down and out of business. At least for a short period of time. Spammers should be *harassed*. One should do ones very best to make their lives miserable. !
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Ooh, ohh, Transmeta news again! So fscking what; its hype like this that leads to vaporware.
:-)
Remember my friend, transmeta is not the ones hyping themselves. They are just secretive. And with all the top folks they've got -- well, then the press starts to speculate. It's the press that hype transmeta into the sky -- not the company itself. Therefore, I don't think it'll effekt their products.
I want to see a somewhat operating beta, or even a crappy alpha,
For all we know, they're through with both alfa and betatesting their thingomajigs. That's something we don't know anything about. They've not released anything, or said what they're going to release. In other words, their entire "hype" has been rumors. Of course, their website backs it up, but how fun it must be, to be those blokes in transmeta -- looking at how the press speculates, and then -- just for the kicks of it, they make that website..
My point? Well, I don't think we should say "hype leads to vaporware" -- when its not they themselves that makes the hype.
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Why not? Because, obviously, it's been compromised by the NSA. Why do you think they dropped actions against Zimmerman? I don't trust it. Then, I don't trust anything. If you don't want it read, don't write it down.
Nah. I would say not even NSA could've done that. They dropped the case against Zimmerman because it generated too much bad publicity.
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just a thought..if microsoft uses a very specific design structure and all, why do their programs tend to be totally unstable and buggy as hell?
.. Then they think "okay, how should it look?". Then they think "what kind of help should be available?".. and so forth.. They design everything around the user, instead of around the computer.
First, the following is PURE speculation, but consider it.
Personally, I believe that MicroSofts way to conquer the market, is to make the normal folks love them. They've made it. Regular people need help to save their word documents. MicroSoft has made it so painless that they learn it after beeing taught it just a couple-or-ten times. MicroSoft designes everything around the philosphy "it should be so easy to use that any idiot can do it". They fail. Of course they do. People stupidity is not easy to predict.
Anyways, to me, it seems like they first think "We need to make a mail program". Then they think "okay, what features should it have?"
Personally, I think one should make the design of computer programs the same way as databases. You should separate things completely. When you want to make a program, commercially, you should assign one team to make the program-engine, and one team to design it and make it user-friendly.
the "engine-team" should make an engine that follows the standard. It should have an "interface" which the user-interface should be able to 'hook into'. In other words, one should separate the processes completely.
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>> Jon was contacted by a Norwegian firm (Simonsen ... And while quite possibly just a nusiance
>> & Musaus) who I assume threatened him with
>> Norwegian copyright law
>
> (IANANL), it would cost $$$ to defend himself in
> court. It'd be nice to see a 'DeCSS defense
> fund' for this, so we can have the software's
> fate legally decided in Norway once and for
> all...
I'm not certain, but I think they would have to press charges, and then he could've had a lawyer appointed for free.
On the other hand, it cannot be THAT hard to open a lot of tripod / geocities accounts, post the code there, and ask a bunch of searh engines to spider it. With "DeCSS" as a meta-keyword.
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Not an issue -- Come Jan 1, 2000, the WIPO (digital millenium act) will be in effect, making it a $1000 fine in the United States to discuss security holes.
I really, REALLY hope you're joking.
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Actually, do put your house on the net. And vote in a political representative not afraid to spend a few tax dollars on jail cells for criminals who engage in trespass.
Yeah, the US spends a couple of more tax dollars, and some Finish scriptkiddie cracks into your house. Hum.. I have a feeling the US laws and spendings don't apply there.
Of course Finland was a bad example. They would probably take action. But you get the idea.
Also, do you really think one would go straigt for the target? No. You bounce via various other compromised hosts, and of course - you try to cover your tracks after y ou've broken into something.
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Slashdot folks, you all should be ashamed of yourselves. Who is next on your interview list, Satan himself? JP is the biggest sellout & poser, seeking to elevate his name at any cost, be it hackers, crackers, or broken laws.
the interview will consist of questions posted by us, the readers. If you want to critizise john, do it in questions. Let him make a fool of himself.
If you didn't get it, slashdot just gave us an oportunity to flame the guy to hell and back, and he obviously has commited himself to answer the questions...
:-D
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We've been waiting far too long for Potato already. I've really started to enjoy Debian, but this reschedule is not a good thing. I'm still on the 2.0 Kernel, some of my servers will be for a long time, but I think its time for Debian users to get at 2.2 kernel in a stable distro.
On the other hand. It is a Good Thing that they wait until things are really stable. Releasing unstable products is a Bad Thing when people want to use the product on mission critical servers.
But, as someone already has pointet out. Will we see Potato released stable, before we see Kernel 2.4 stable?
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Hey, while they're at it, why doesn't Mozilla through a couple options in there that M$ doesn't have?
Because we are the good guys. We follow the standards. Microsoft make their own.
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Yes, your experience with Netscape points out a shortcoming, but not in Linux. Those of use who want the functionality you are missing are free to code it.
You are missing the point. As the article pointed out - if we don't catch up and start supporting everything that the freakin' microsoftbrowser supports, then people won't move to linux. People will move to windows. Then we lose the war.
The way to win, is to make mozilla usable for everyone.
All those who are able to! Go Hack! The rest of us, let's continue to support Linux and OSS.
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but I think he should sue his ISP for censoring him with no legal justification
The problem with the people of US is that you want to SUE all the time. Why not just quit using that damned isp, tell people how stupid they are, and move to another ISP?
Damn, the world would be a much better place without all those stupid "suings".
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It must've been the most hilarious pr0n i've ever seen on the net ;>
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When I saw the subject I was going "yes yes yes" until I saw that it wasn't going to be made by id. I can remember playing Wolf3d on my 386. Maybe nostalgia has enhanced the experience, but it was a great game. Seems like as games get more realistic they also become harder to set up and configure properly . The simple game of Wolf3d was wonderful, I hope it can somehow be reproduced.
.. ah, there are endless possibilities.
I really don't care who develop the game. The important thing is a *fast* and good graphics engine that may deliver speedy graphics and so forth.
Also, they should make it multiplayer. You should be able to choose if you want to play the nazi's, or the escaping prisoner, or maybe a deathmatch between several soldiers and prisoners
I'm really looking forward to slaying Hitler in his machine again.. uhh, if they dare to rip that of ID that is.
Ohwell.. nostalgia.
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Maybe we can hope for a spree of copycat crimes...
In our dreams. But, let's pray for it.
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Those were human lives.
Humans are YAA (yet another animal). So who cares if a couple of people died? And beside, they were spammers so I personally enjoyed reading it. Quite frankly I hope this will happen more often in the future.
and all of these tasteless jokes would be appropriately tagged ``flamebait''.
I have a feeling my karma is suffering bad today. Spammmers deserve what they get. I cannot help it, but I *love* it when I hear about spammers, crackers and the like gets it bad.
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Regardless of the spamming, i do not even find it remotely funny that they are dead.
Me neither. THey deserved what they got. Heck, they deserved a lot more.
Yes, it's annoying to get spam. but i have yet to see death as i justification for having to delete electronic mail.
Spammers cripple the net. They use up resources that aint theirs. They plague millions of people every day.
they deserve to punished to the full extent of the law, but laughing and joking about their deaths is so cold hearted and sick.
I prefer to say they deserved it. I prefer to say that I really hope this will happen a lot more often in the future.
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Poor guys...scummy as they were, nothing it looks like they did would make them deserve to be gunned down like an animal.
They were spammers for christ sake. Of course they deserved what they got.
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Less SPAM clogging up our networks is what comes next.
Hmm, maybe I should get myself a gun after all. First take out all the local taggers, then take out all the spammers..
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when sending out spam is a reason for murdering someone, what comes next?
;)
Murder for sending out massmessages on IRC?
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I keep getting spam offering me 51 million email addresses for $115...that kind of thing makes me very annoyed. Put that together with someone with an attitude and a gun, and the spammer's gone.
;)
Ah, I kinda like the tought. Fortunately I don't have a gun
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Hmmm. Sounds like a good idea. When I reflect on the amount of spam that a couple of my old email addressed got, I can understand someone's motive to be driven to murder :-)
Actually, I've received PLENTY of spam from those bastards. I complained to their upstreams at leat a dozen of times. Nothing happened.
Quite frankly, I rather enjoy them being slayed.
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With Macintosh/Windows, they can go into a store, buy a game, take it home, put the CD in the drive, close the drive, click 'Next' a few times (as per the directions that magically pop up on the screen), click 'Finish' and have instant access to a new piece of software.
Yes, but installing the operating system would be just as difficult with windows as with Linux.
And, is it a good or a bad thing that things install easily? What happens when "some malicious user" makes a CD which auoinstalls a nice little virus? Grandpa things "Hmm.. whats on this CD" puts it in the CD-drive.. and wham.
"So have them download the software from the 'Net." Right there you open up a whole new can of worms. With IE and Windows, you can click on a link to an install file and get a nice window asking if you'd like to open that item. "Sure." Installation proceeds as above. Linux in its current state does not NEARLY meet the requirements of a "new" computer user or one who wants to do very simple, minimal tasks.
Yargh. NO! If its something I really HATE its trojans and autorun functions. I've been cleaning some hundred dmsetup / netbus infections the last year (maybe thousands).
People should NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO when they install programs. It shouldn't be an easy task they don't need to learn first. If it is, they'll infect themselves with dmsetup, netbus, backorifice and so on.
At least, the OS they use when they do such things, should have a real security-model. They shouldn't know the administrator password, and should never install anything as administrator. They should not be able to screw up the system, or cause a systemwide virusinfection - or open the system up for remote system administration by an accident (netbus,bo,etc).
I've had my Win98 system up for 12 days now, and my NT system at work (mainly due to the hard work of our PC support folks ensuring software and service packs we install are as stable as possible) has been up for not quite a month.
You call that stable? I don't have problems with my computers except hardware trouble. Maximum uptime 'till now is 60 days or so - but since I don't have an UPS.. well, it's kind of difficult to get more than 60days uptime for me. I need to upgrade hardware, sometimes the power fails and so forth. (argh, I hate the fcheck after a powerfailure.. I NEED that UPS.. NOW!)
Point is, I've not had a single operating-system caused kernel panic (and therefore have never needed to reboot my system because of the system itself). only kernel panic I had was when my cooler-fan stopped working (the processor did survive! All hail Cyrix!)
A simple background virus scanner is all that's required if he ever decides to get adventurous. I've never in my life had a computer virus under Windows. It has a lot to do with *how* you use your computer.
The background virus-scanner needs to be updated.
Furthermore, what if old grandpa decided that "chatrooms" (irc..) is a nice thing, and what does good old grandpa do when some chick send him a "video of herself"(in reality, 17 year old male playing around with netbus)? Well, of course - he opens the damn thing.
*argh*
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If I were to plug one of them into my box right now, most of the cycles would be admittedly unused.
:) ( http://www.distributed.net)
Do you have unused cycles? What kind of person are you? Everybody should donate their unused cycles to distributed.net!
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