At least in the EU, they certainly wouldn't. The limitations on nicotine in cigarettes over here mean that you can have WAY, WAY higher nicotine levels in your vape than in a whole pack of cigs.
With the difference being that TNG is set way, way after TOS. Discovery is supposedly set before.
TOS is set in 2200. 200 years ago, in 1800, we were still busy exploring our planet, but we had most of it mapped out. The steam engines are a new technology that boosted our progress considerably and we were progressing technologically at a speed never experienced before. People from that time would probably consider ours an utopia, mostly concerning our social achievements and the fact that we basically eliminated hunger at least in our "civilized" areas of the planet, a problem that was really huge back then, with worker famines being a constant problem. They would probably also be amazed at the way greater equality (note: We're talking about a world where a royal could still beat peasants with impunity in many "civilized" areas of the planet, and where owning people was maybe no longer considered decent and normal by some, but definitely legal in many areas). I think that would astound them more than our technical advances, like I said, they live in the age of the steam engine which was propelling advances forward faster than ever before, things were changing rapidly in that time.
So they would probably accept that we mastered flight, even though it seems impossible to them, much like FTL-travel seems to us now. But we can consider it possible. Likewise, traveling to the moon has been though about in that time, too, with the first sci-fi novels being written, and of course traveling beyond the confines of our planets is a topic. They would be amazed that it's possible and that we did it, but they wouldn't deem it impossible or completely outlandish.
Scroll back another 200 years to 1600 and it becomes impossible. Not only our technology, but our social advances. To a person from the 1600s, the idea of social equality of races, genders and especially religions is an alien concept they would reject on principle, as impossible. Likewise, travelling beyond the speed of wind is a concept that is absolutely alien, we are talking about a world where the fastest form of locomotion is riding on horseback, and crossing oceans is still a huge endeavor, with most of the planet still being unknown to "civilized" countries, and the idea of simply occupying and owning places you "discover", including the people on it, is considered the norm.
TNG is what we are to the guy from the 1600s. TOS is what we are to the one from the 1800s.
This is the difference.
So yes, TNG gets away with space magic, because they should actually have concepts that we don't even remotely grasp. Actually, they are way, way too "mundane" in many areas.
Build it and compare the result to the published binary?
Say, is it me or is it kinda odd that the accused has to prove his innocence? Last time that was due practice people got a cremation without prior demise.
With every single piece of crippleware they publish, I bet there are more assembly level audits going on of that software than any other closed-source soft.
Because, well, what they show is what topics really dominate on/., because what does finding the "ultimate" headline really mean? It means that it finds what terms, products, people and so on are found the most in/. headlines. It's pretty much a popularity contest. And what do we get?
Company-wise we get MS, Sun and Apple. Which makes sense. I'm glad to not see SCO anywhere anymore, that used to dominate the headlines a few years back.
People-wise all we get is Jobs. Really? He's the quintessential poster child for our headlines? Not Billy? Not Ballmer? I am not so deluded anymore that it would be Turing or someone important, but couldn't it at least be Stallman? Of all the people that shape the IT world, it really is Jobs? And that guy is dead, unlike the rest of them!
And content-wise? Lawsuits, mostly. And patents. A bit open source, a bit Star Wars, a bit trivialities. Seriously, one could think we're on a board for lawyers and law geeks, not techs.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, sums up what's wrong here.
There is no winning a nuclear war, ever. Radiation from Japan made it all the way to the west coast. The bombs of those days might as well have been a stick of dynamite compared to what we could release today.
You know that and so do I, but the question is, does Trump believe it if his advisers tell him that?
Great advice, asshole. Now I'm expelled from school for wearing a rubber in class.
At least in the EU, they certainly wouldn't. The limitations on nicotine in cigarettes over here mean that you can have WAY, WAY higher nicotine levels in your vape than in a whole pack of cigs.
"Because I like the taste!"
(Usually spoken by people who then drown any kind of coffee flavor there might be with some syrup)
I sure as fuck hope you're not living in a big city. Because if, second hand smoke is the least of your concern when you breathe...
"Your smoke bothers me!!!!"
"Good. Look, lady, it kills me, but do you see me make a fuss?"
I got a really nasty rash.
Trump's become a meme. Like Natalie Portman's hot grits imagining a beowulf cluster in Soviet Russia.
He'll probably be around /. longer than he'll be president.
What? No gratuitious gay sex?
I'm SO out of here!
With the difference being that TNG is set way, way after TOS. Discovery is supposedly set before.
TOS is set in 2200. 200 years ago, in 1800, we were still busy exploring our planet, but we had most of it mapped out. The steam engines are a new technology that boosted our progress considerably and we were progressing technologically at a speed never experienced before. People from that time would probably consider ours an utopia, mostly concerning our social achievements and the fact that we basically eliminated hunger at least in our "civilized" areas of the planet, a problem that was really huge back then, with worker famines being a constant problem. They would probably also be amazed at the way greater equality (note: We're talking about a world where a royal could still beat peasants with impunity in many "civilized" areas of the planet, and where owning people was maybe no longer considered decent and normal by some, but definitely legal in many areas). I think that would astound them more than our technical advances, like I said, they live in the age of the steam engine which was propelling advances forward faster than ever before, things were changing rapidly in that time.
So they would probably accept that we mastered flight, even though it seems impossible to them, much like FTL-travel seems to us now. But we can consider it possible. Likewise, traveling to the moon has been though about in that time, too, with the first sci-fi novels being written, and of course traveling beyond the confines of our planets is a topic. They would be amazed that it's possible and that we did it, but they wouldn't deem it impossible or completely outlandish.
Scroll back another 200 years to 1600 and it becomes impossible. Not only our technology, but our social advances. To a person from the 1600s, the idea of social equality of races, genders and especially religions is an alien concept they would reject on principle, as impossible. Likewise, travelling beyond the speed of wind is a concept that is absolutely alien, we are talking about a world where the fastest form of locomotion is riding on horseback, and crossing oceans is still a huge endeavor, with most of the planet still being unknown to "civilized" countries, and the idea of simply occupying and owning places you "discover", including the people on it, is considered the norm.
TNG is what we are to the guy from the 1600s. TOS is what we are to the one from the 1800s.
This is the difference.
So yes, TNG gets away with space magic, because they should actually have concepts that we don't even remotely grasp. Actually, they are way, way too "mundane" in many areas.
Build it and compare the result to the published binary?
Say, is it me or is it kinda odd that the accused has to prove his innocence? Last time that was due practice people got a cremation without prior demise.
When will Denuevo be opened to inspection?
With every single piece of crippleware they publish, I bet there are more assembly level audits going on of that software than any other closed-source soft.
The better question is what country to move to.
You are aware that a server can only collect data that the client sends, yes?
To settle an international dispute? Great idea.
I'd pay to see Putin wipe the floor with Trump.
Then again... I probably already am.
Great, so now the US is not just hated for being an asshole, it's also on the "kick me any chance you get" list for being the teacher's pet?
Because, well, what they show is what topics really dominate on /., because what does finding the "ultimate" headline really mean? It means that it finds what terms, products, people and so on are found the most in /. headlines. It's pretty much a popularity contest. And what do we get?
Company-wise we get MS, Sun and Apple. Which makes sense. I'm glad to not see SCO anywhere anymore, that used to dominate the headlines a few years back.
People-wise all we get is Jobs. Really? He's the quintessential poster child for our headlines? Not Billy? Not Ballmer? I am not so deluded anymore that it would be Turing or someone important, but couldn't it at least be Stallman? Of all the people that shape the IT world, it really is Jobs? And that guy is dead, unlike the rest of them!
And content-wise? Lawsuits, mostly. And patents. A bit open source, a bit Star Wars, a bit trivialities. Seriously, one could think we're on a board for lawyers and law geeks, not techs.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, sums up what's wrong here.
"Shut up or I replace you with a very small script" he said... I laughed ...
And he did.
And even a poorly trained AI could see it's bollocks.
Always two there are, a master and a student.
But you know how that ends for the master, right?
In my opinion, the only acceptable outcome between any two states with brandishing weapons,
is their leaders doing the fighting, like in the good ol' times.
With the difference that we'll be sitting at home with popcorn instead of dying with them.
If this was the rule, I betcha we'd have a LOT fewer wars and a LOT more talking.
"Accidentally" fly them a little further.
Hey, sorry China, we only wanted to hit NKor. But, you know, MIRV is like an old fart on laxatives, you can't really control that so well...
C'mon, there's like 8 billion people on this planet right now, you think anyone will notice it?
That's already the case. The US is already the schoolyard bully of international politics.
There is no winning a nuclear war, ever. Radiation from Japan made it all the way to the west coast. The bombs of those days might as well have been a stick of dynamite compared to what we could release today.
You know that and so do I, but the question is, does Trump believe it if his advisers tell him that?
...shouldn't parade around in clothing made for emperors.