Trump is a lot like a really dumb school bully. Behind his back, you laugh and mock him, but you won't laugh in his face because he could easily beat you up.
Yes, but I'd like to keep life expectancy at Western Europe levels. It's great that you can survive on grains for 30 years, but we have evidence that twice that is possible. I'd like to know if it's possible without meat.
Last time I checked you're still allowed to leave. Since you're obviously someone who earns a lot of money, presumably because you have a skill that is high in demand, it should be trivial to find a jurisdiction that is to your liking that will also welcome you with open arms.
The electoral college had its place in the early days of the US republic but it's a completely useless relic by now. It's by no means hard anymore for people to know the presidential candidates and know EXACTLY who they are voting for, there is no need for a trusted middle man who'd go and act on their behalf anymore.
The problem isn't voting an incompetent idiot into a position of power. The problem is doing it too often without electing someone to fix the damage in between.
Don't get me wrong, the president of the US is a pretty important person and whatever he does has some effect on the world. But do we really have to hear every fart he passes? Who gives a shit about this anymore?
I might want you to have liability insurance so if you damage me or my property with your gun I'll at least get reimbursed. Aside of that, as far as I'm concerned, buy a tank for all I care.
Yes, and in the distant past the life expectancy was in the 30s or maybe 40s. In India it's in the 60s. I'd prefer to retain the life expectancy of about 80 years that we enjoy today in the western world, so we do need that data.
Well, we're looking at a serious problem: Growing meat is expensive. Less so in terms of money, but in terms of energy. Animals waste a lot of the precious energy we pump into them to live rather than to grow meat. Unfortunately animals need to live to grow meat. Classic catch 22.
If we find a way to create meat in a way that consumes less energy than it takes to grow meat in animals, that's a huge step forward. Simply because more and more people want (and can afford) to eat meat. And we simply cannot produce that much. The choice is probably going to be growing meat in tanks or not have meat at all, because with more people wanting to eat, food prices will go up.
On the other hand, we have people who are currently subjecting themselves to be lab rats, testing whether we can survive without meat. There are actually quite a few doing a long term study, even, who have not been eating meat for years now (and counting), and it should be possible to observe in them whether not eating meat is going to be viable or if we have to add certain nutrients to a meat-deprived diet.
If these people (IIRC that test group is called "vegans") manage to go for, say, 30-40 years without meat and don't show any signs of malnutrition, I think it's safe to say that this artificial meat is not going to mean any loss of valuable nutrients if we replace animal-grown meat with this vat-grown variant.
And should they show malnutrition signs, we know what to add to the vat-slabs.
So as long as it tastes as crappy as the current meat "replacements" it's ok, but as soon as the artificial meat is on par in taste, texture and everything with the real deal it's verboten?
Yup, sounds like a cult.
In the meantime, I'll go to the vegan restaurant near my apartment, they have an awesome tofu based roast that tastes just like pork but can (by definition) not be stringily.
Pretty much. An average salary of 75k means that you have a handful of people going home with 6 or even more figures and the rest working double shifts to make ends meet.
Creating jobs is meaningless when that job can't support a family. I don't need an occupation. I need money. I can keep myself occupied just fine, I need no "help" in that respect.
It doesn't matter if they never go to war with it, you mean?
Because that's basically the game BAE is in. Making weapon system that are peace-compatible. Not really battle worthy, but also not as expensive as they'd have to be to be battle-worthy.
Trump is a lot like a really dumb school bully. Behind his back, you laugh and mock him, but you won't laugh in his face because he could easily beat you up.
Just so we're clear, are we talking about ISIS or the US Army now?
Yes, but I'd like to keep life expectancy at Western Europe levels. It's great that you can survive on grains for 30 years, but we have evidence that twice that is possible. I'd like to know if it's possible without meat.
Last time I checked you're still allowed to leave. Since you're obviously someone who earns a lot of money, presumably because you have a skill that is high in demand, it should be trivial to find a jurisdiction that is to your liking that will also welcome you with open arms.
We should remove those stickers, create a "thou shalt not be stupid" law and let the problem sort itself out.
Because at some point it becomes more sensible to just end the service altogether than to jump through more and more insane hoops.
Do what everyone does, pull a number out of your ass and go with it.
When I read the story, I immediately thought "Half the comments will be about Petya, the other half will lament how systemd is the spawn of hell".
I was not disappointed.
Won't get that past the 8th amendment.
The electoral college had its place in the early days of the US republic but it's a completely useless relic by now. It's by no means hard anymore for people to know the presidential candidates and know EXACTLY who they are voting for, there is no need for a trusted middle man who'd go and act on their behalf anymore.
The problem isn't voting an incompetent idiot into a position of power. The problem is doing it too often without electing someone to fix the damage in between.
Why the hell does anyone still care?
Don't get me wrong, the president of the US is a pretty important person and whatever he does has some effect on the world. But do we really have to hear every fart he passes? Who gives a shit about this anymore?
Wake me when he DOES something.
I might want you to have liability insurance so if you damage me or my property with your gun I'll at least get reimbursed. Aside of that, as far as I'm concerned, buy a tank for all I care.
Great, now we're learning from the losers...
Yes, and in the distant past the life expectancy was in the 30s or maybe 40s. In India it's in the 60s. I'd prefer to retain the life expectancy of about 80 years that we enjoy today in the western world, so we do need that data.
Little meat consumption is not no meat consumption. It could well be that we can survive on little but not on no meat, what then?
No, we need the data from those brave men and women risking their lives so we learn what additives we have to pump into the artificial meat.
Great! That way we'll know what to do when the current batch of test subjects can get dissected so we see what killed them.
Science is learning from mistakes. Let's do good science!
Well, we're looking at a serious problem: Growing meat is expensive. Less so in terms of money, but in terms of energy. Animals waste a lot of the precious energy we pump into them to live rather than to grow meat. Unfortunately animals need to live to grow meat. Classic catch 22.
If we find a way to create meat in a way that consumes less energy than it takes to grow meat in animals, that's a huge step forward. Simply because more and more people want (and can afford) to eat meat. And we simply cannot produce that much. The choice is probably going to be growing meat in tanks or not have meat at all, because with more people wanting to eat, food prices will go up.
On the other hand, we have people who are currently subjecting themselves to be lab rats, testing whether we can survive without meat. There are actually quite a few doing a long term study, even, who have not been eating meat for years now (and counting), and it should be possible to observe in them whether not eating meat is going to be viable or if we have to add certain nutrients to a meat-deprived diet.
If these people (IIRC that test group is called "vegans") manage to go for, say, 30-40 years without meat and don't show any signs of malnutrition, I think it's safe to say that this artificial meat is not going to mean any loss of valuable nutrients if we replace animal-grown meat with this vat-grown variant.
And should they show malnutrition signs, we know what to add to the vat-slabs.
Shhh, you're giving away our devilish master plan!
So as long as it tastes as crappy as the current meat "replacements" it's ok, but as soon as the artificial meat is on par in taste, texture and everything with the real deal it's verboten?
Yup, sounds like a cult.
In the meantime, I'll go to the vegan restaurant near my apartment, they have an awesome tofu based roast that tastes just like pork but can (by definition) not be stringily.
Pretty much. An average salary of 75k means that you have a handful of people going home with 6 or even more figures and the rest working double shifts to make ends meet.
Creating jobs is meaningless when that job can't support a family. I don't need an occupation. I need money. I can keep myself occupied just fine, I need no "help" in that respect.
But it will run on moonshine.
Old joke: What does a navy pilot have in common with an internet junkie?
Both break out in cold sweat if their display shows NO CARRIER
It doesn't matter if they never go to war with it, you mean?
Because that's basically the game BAE is in. Making weapon system that are peace-compatible. Not really battle worthy, but also not as expensive as they'd have to be to be battle-worthy.