Nope. Venus is more interesting in this regard. Mars is WAY smaller than Earth (about halfway between Earth and our moon, actually closer to our moon), so it's pretty obvious what happened, it simply lost its atmosphere due to a lack of gravity to retain it. Its orbit is also way more eccentric than ours, it has no liquid core, it's almost outside the "habitable zone" of our sun...
Really, if you want to take a look at what could be our fate, Venus is where you want to go.
Actually, the moon shot was one of the things that did a lot for US economy. Not only by the directly noticeable technological advances. Of course you had an incredible boost in a wide field of technologies. Propulsion. Electronics. Metallurgy. Plastics. Data processing. And so on. Lots and lots and lots of breakthroughs and developments that would otherwise have taken decades instead of being done "before this decade is out".
You also had a lot of supporting technologies that developed during this time. Hell, some were pretty much invented at that time. Process management and systematic creation of work routines in office positions was pretty much a novelty back then. Dedicated positions with defined interfaces between them, and how this is being documented and interwoven with technology, was a complex but crucial part of the organization of the moon shots. This translated incredibly well to corporate management and you can actually see productivity rise in the 1960s in the US. This was technology that wasn't so immediately visible and it took the other countries a while to actually realize where that productivity boost comes from.
But one of the most important factors was the human factor. First, people saw that these things work. They could see first hand that these changes are GOOD! Today, when a new process is introduced in the company, the resistance is usually incredibly high. What do we need that for? Why should we change, our old way is good? Who died and made you king? Here, you had NASA workers who took their experience with them when they left for a job in the economy, and they knew that these processes and these management structures worked. They knew it first hand. And anyone not knowing it first hand could see it. That's the stuff that got us to the moon, that works!
And of course pulling this feat off gave the country a boost to its self esteem. Remember, that was also the time of racial tension and foreign wars that don't run so well (sounds familiar?). And then there was this "small step" of a man, some thousand miles away. Moreover, it was something the whole country could stand behind. Because everyone could say that he had a part in it. From the guy at the MDD plant who welded the tank to the farmer in Kansas whose wheat was probably used to create the astronaut's food. It was an US effort. As in WE DID THAT. And that feeling lasted a pretty long time. You had role models that convinced young people to get into engineering and study.
And believe me, that would be a LOT better than what now doubles as role models for our youth!
What trench warfare? Both agree on pretty much all subjects that could have any kind of impact on reality. They disagree on things that you can get people worked up over, but that don't really have any measurable impact on anyone.
Face it. You have one party. You may decide what flavor the Kool-Aid has, but you'll get to drink it.
The internet is far too busy fighting microaggressions and creating safespaces. It took a while, but it seems politics has managed to keep those that could and would actually stage a protest against their bullshit occupied by convincing them that some other bullshit is oh-so-important.
And isn't it sad? I mean, imagine you told someone 10 years ago "Donald Trump is running for president. And he is the LESSER evil." Anyone you told that would have looked at you and asked "Who's he running against, Cthulhu?
And you would pause, ponder, and then very slowly, you would nod.
It's more one of disbelief. Like watching a train run full speed towards a cliff, knowing that it will not stop, knowing you can't do jack shit to keep it from happening, with a strange mix of utter horror and morbid fascination on our faces.
You started the bullshit, now get it to an end. But the US is only good for creating a huge mess and letting the rest of the world clean up behind them, like the spoiled brat they are.
Europe here. There is a presidential election in one of our countries here, too. Austria. Actually, it should be over by now, but they are forced to repeat the election now because there have been errors in the first. They had to push the repetition date back 2 months again because they AGAIN managed to blunder it. You'd think that we're a wee bit more interested in a presidential election of a member state that somehow can't get its act together and where some already start pondering whether election fraud is afoot? The Austrian presidential election is more something you'll find in the comedy shows on TV, not the news. The news is reserved for Clinton and Trump.
Even in Austria some care more about the outcome of the US election than their own.
European here, from a country that had its share of different people from across the continent wandering in, out or through. You'll find quite a few houses in our capital with few "native" sounding names on the tenants' list, and none of them being immigrants in the strict sense because they have been here for centuries, dating from a time when it was their turn to move here.
You'd think that a place like this, where nearly everyone can trace their lineage (if they can) once across the continent and back, would have no problem with xenophobia. You have NO idea. The immigrants who have been here a while are now voting for our "kick 'em out" party.
No "entanglement" will solve this. The prevailing sentiment will always be "I have. I keep. You go fuck yourself."
Or, rather, you really WANT that? You really want to pay more for your groceries, for your deliveries, for your repairs, for... well, pretty much anything?
Before you cry "they took ur juuubs", ponder whether you'd WANT that job, or whether that job is done for you, and realize that if it's the latter, the price for this will go up.
Well, the closer it is to the original. You know the old joke where the curator of the monastery came up from the vault with the original texts and cried "Dammit, in the original it read 'celebRate'!"
No, I honestly cannot see the parallels of insider trading, where the culprit actually gains something financially while harming others directly along with their ability to do business with another party due to the lost revenue, with copyright infringement, where the one copying does not influence the copyright holder or his ability to sell that content to a third party.
Next we'll get to hear that water is wet, that Trump has said something controversial, that Hillary has lost some mails, that Apple has removed yet another standard plug from their system and that Sony has been hacked?
Yes, and in all these cases, at least in my country, you need to actually sue if you want your damages recognized. And with insider trading you can actually see a financial, immediate gain for the perpetrator and an immediate financial loss for other traders. Not quite the best example to support your case, if I may say so.
Not in Austria. It's more likely that her dad really sees her as his property to do with her as he sees fit, things are a little bit more... traditional, in those areas of Austria especially.
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Nope. Venus is more interesting in this regard. Mars is WAY smaller than Earth (about halfway between Earth and our moon, actually closer to our moon), so it's pretty obvious what happened, it simply lost its atmosphere due to a lack of gravity to retain it. Its orbit is also way more eccentric than ours, it has no liquid core, it's almost outside the "habitable zone" of our sun...
Really, if you want to take a look at what could be our fate, Venus is where you want to go.
Actually, most first stages use Kerolox, i.e. kerosene and liquid oxygen.
And that's the environmental friendly variant. You don't want to know what hypergolic fuels are made of, and what their waste products are.
The F35 is mostly pork barrelly. Hence the pig tag.
Actually, the moon shot was one of the things that did a lot for US economy. Not only by the directly noticeable technological advances. Of course you had an incredible boost in a wide field of technologies. Propulsion. Electronics. Metallurgy. Plastics. Data processing. And so on. Lots and lots and lots of breakthroughs and developments that would otherwise have taken decades instead of being done "before this decade is out".
You also had a lot of supporting technologies that developed during this time. Hell, some were pretty much invented at that time. Process management and systematic creation of work routines in office positions was pretty much a novelty back then. Dedicated positions with defined interfaces between them, and how this is being documented and interwoven with technology, was a complex but crucial part of the organization of the moon shots. This translated incredibly well to corporate management and you can actually see productivity rise in the 1960s in the US. This was technology that wasn't so immediately visible and it took the other countries a while to actually realize where that productivity boost comes from.
But one of the most important factors was the human factor. First, people saw that these things work. They could see first hand that these changes are GOOD! Today, when a new process is introduced in the company, the resistance is usually incredibly high. What do we need that for? Why should we change, our old way is good? Who died and made you king? Here, you had NASA workers who took their experience with them when they left for a job in the economy, and they knew that these processes and these management structures worked. They knew it first hand. And anyone not knowing it first hand could see it. That's the stuff that got us to the moon, that works!
And of course pulling this feat off gave the country a boost to its self esteem. Remember, that was also the time of racial tension and foreign wars that don't run so well (sounds familiar?). And then there was this "small step" of a man, some thousand miles away. Moreover, it was something the whole country could stand behind. Because everyone could say that he had a part in it. From the guy at the MDD plant who welded the tank to the farmer in Kansas whose wheat was probably used to create the astronaut's food. It was an US effort. As in WE DID THAT. And that feeling lasted a pretty long time. You had role models that convinced young people to get into engineering and study.
And believe me, that would be a LOT better than what now doubles as role models for our youth!
Simple, the way he might win the presidential election: He's the lesser evil.
Trump is, politically speaking, a lightweight. He has no backers in any political realm and hence easier to control or, if necessary, oust.
What trench warfare? Both agree on pretty much all subjects that could have any kind of impact on reality. They disagree on things that you can get people worked up over, but that don't really have any measurable impact on anyone.
Face it. You have one party. You may decide what flavor the Kool-Aid has, but you'll get to drink it.
No, 'cause all the maps start with Newfoundland and end at Alaska.
The internet is far too busy fighting microaggressions and creating safespaces. It took a while, but it seems politics has managed to keep those that could and would actually stage a protest against their bullshit occupied by convincing them that some other bullshit is oh-so-important.
Pretty much this, yes.
And isn't it sad? I mean, imagine you told someone 10 years ago "Donald Trump is running for president. And he is the LESSER evil." Anyone you told that would have looked at you and asked "Who's he running against, Cthulhu?
And you would pause, ponder, and then very slowly, you would nod.
It's more one of disbelief. Like watching a train run full speed towards a cliff, knowing that it will not stop, knowing you can't do jack shit to keep it from happening, with a strange mix of utter horror and morbid fascination on our faces.
They're used to someone listening in on every kind of conversation that's not strictly face to face. Old habits die hard.
You started the bullshit, now get it to an end. But the US is only good for creating a huge mess and letting the rest of the world clean up behind them, like the spoiled brat they are.
My history knowledge isn't the best, but I think this was the ballot paper for the Crimean vote, right?
Europe here. There is a presidential election in one of our countries here, too. Austria. Actually, it should be over by now, but they are forced to repeat the election now because there have been errors in the first. They had to push the repetition date back 2 months again because they AGAIN managed to blunder it. You'd think that we're a wee bit more interested in a presidential election of a member state that somehow can't get its act together and where some already start pondering whether election fraud is afoot? The Austrian presidential election is more something you'll find in the comedy shows on TV, not the news. The news is reserved for Clinton and Trump.
Even in Austria some care more about the outcome of the US election than their own.
European here, from a country that had its share of different people from across the continent wandering in, out or through. You'll find quite a few houses in our capital with few "native" sounding names on the tenants' list, and none of them being immigrants in the strict sense because they have been here for centuries, dating from a time when it was their turn to move here.
You'd think that a place like this, where nearly everyone can trace their lineage (if they can) once across the continent and back, would have no problem with xenophobia. You have NO idea. The immigrants who have been here a while are now voting for our "kick 'em out" party.
No "entanglement" will solve this. The prevailing sentiment will always be "I have. I keep. You go fuck yourself."
There are leftists now in the US?
You really think that?
Or, rather, you really WANT that? You really want to pay more for your groceries, for your deliveries, for your repairs, for ... well, pretty much anything?
Before you cry "they took ur juuubs", ponder whether you'd WANT that job, or whether that job is done for you, and realize that if it's the latter, the price for this will go up.
Well, the closer it is to the original. You know the old joke where the curator of the monastery came up from the vault with the original texts and cried "Dammit, in the original it read 'celebRate'!"
No, I honestly cannot see the parallels of insider trading, where the culprit actually gains something financially while harming others directly along with their ability to do business with another party due to the lost revenue, with copyright infringement, where the one copying does not influence the copyright holder or his ability to sell that content to a third party.
I mean, c'mon, is that really a story?
Next we'll get to hear that water is wet, that Trump has said something controversial, that Hillary has lost some mails, that Apple has removed yet another standard plug from their system and that Sony has been hacked?
Yes, and in all these cases, at least in my country, you need to actually sue if you want your damages recognized. And with insider trading you can actually see a financial, immediate gain for the perpetrator and an immediate financial loss for other traders. Not quite the best example to support your case, if I may say so.
So someone who didn't cause damage cannot be sued for ridiculous amounts of money?
Not in Austria. It's more likely that her dad really sees her as his property to do with her as he sees fit, things are a little bit more ... traditional, in those areas of Austria especially.
And what crime did the bird commit to be taped there next to a cat in distress?
Then I have to wonder where the insane compensation demands come from if you can only sue for whatever amount the damage actually was.