A Danish newspaper, who have been at the forefront of an ongoing hetz against immigrants and especially muslims,
I read it regularly - they are definately right-wing, but "hetz" I don't recongnize.
published a number of cartoons depicting Mohammed in ways that can only have been meant to express contempt.
The newspaper claims that they weren't meant to offend anywone. They were meant as a provocation of danes on the subject of self-censoring and reluctance of dealing with islam for fear of reprecussions.
The reaction to the cartoons, prove that they were merited, as I'm sure most danes won't critisize, make fun of or deal with islam for a long time to come. Unless they are willingly looking for trouble.
Further, if you have been following Danish news, you will know just how vitriolic and hatefilled the debate has been there for a very long time;
Again you're overdoing it. The debate is way to intolerant for my taste, but not excatly hate filled.
and this is prominent politicians we're talking about.
Only one Danish political party is really "anti" on the subject of immigrants, muslims etc. I'll concur that this party is getting a suprisingly and somewhat scary large amount of votes.
This has even been commented on in foreign news, with horror and disgust. To a moslem depicting the profet is totally forbidden, apparently, which the newspaper in question certainly knew;
They probably did. I didn't. To a muslim, is it also forbidden for someone else to depict mohammed? Why do they get to decide this for everybody?
and not surprisingly a group of Danish moslems vented their anger in their home countries.
And for good measure venting some pictures that weren't even printed in Denmark. Telling that the Danish queen - unpolitical as she is - called for opposition to islam. These people speak danish and live in denmark. They clearly knew better. They might not have expected such a huge reaction though.
This Abu Laban (imam living in Denmark) character said on danish television (in english) that he was actively working to smooth the waters and solve the conflict. The same evening he was on al-jahzerra encouraging boycots and general nastiness against Denmark. And this guy is likely to be in Denmark for humanitarian reasons. I wonder what his actual motives are.
Personally I think it could have been defused then and there if the newspaper or the prime minister had had the decency and backbone to simply apologize;
The newspaper did. According to wikipedia the exact text was this:
In our opinion, the 12 drawings were sober. They were not intended to be offensive, nor were they at variance with Danish law, but they have indisputably offended many Muslims for which we apologize.
after all, there is such a thing as simple politeness, and no one would need to give up fundamental freedoms etc. How much would it actually have cost anybody if our PM had said something like: 'It is not Danish policy to insult people of other cultures, and I apologize for the distress these insensitive pictures have been published. However, I can not dictate what the newspapers print'? Not a thing.
The prime minister can't apologize for something he had nothing to do with. But the other stuff you mention he said preatty much excactly. Where have you been the last two weeks?
Instead there has been a load of stilted nonsense about 'freedom of speech' - what a load of crap. Freedom is not the right to get away with whatever you do - there is a responsibility for all your actions as there should be. If you kick a hornets' nest, you'll get stung.
Well the innocent looking ball turned out to be a hornets nest. Freedom of speech is important. Just consider the fact that the new
... and I have had MS for the last 11 years, since I was 15. I have not adapted my diet, and eat lots of meat and presumably the various kinds of fat you mention.
Fortunately I still have no serious permanent effects.
I'm sure if doding the effects of MS was as simple as a diet, the established treatment and research communities would have caught on to it...
I think the company was called "Iterated systems" (www.iterated.com - it's on google but doesn't answer) and the guy is called Michael Barnsley or something like that.
It was quite impressive stuff, but never really took off. Probably because of licensing a pricing issues as mentioned elsewhere.
So instead they implemented a media storage and management server: www.mediabin.com, that is apparently now part of interwoven.
I have been using Java for CS teaching for some time. It is not the funniest language for people to learn, mainly because you have to get yourself a thorough knowledge of Sun's standard libraries and their class hierarchy.
I don't quite agree. You don't have to learn Sun's libraries, any more than you need to learn the standard libraries or namespaces in C/C++ to do the same thing.
Try making a highly graphical multithreaded networked application in C/C++ and in Java, and then tell me: which required more knowledge and technical bickering?
Besides: There are other libraries than Sun's (except for the lowest level stuff, unless you make your own VM). You could even make your own library.
If you want to learn/teach OO stuff, Java is great. If you want to make an application Java is also great (well for many kinds of application anyway). If you want to learn/teach CS stuff other languages environments are better.
Chris mentions that Java should not be used as a keystone language for CS education. I agree: No language should be keystone.
>I don't know whether it's a joke or not, but it
>really doesn't matter. Sooner or later Microsoft
>is going to be forced to release their code
>under the GPL (GNU Public License) or another
>Open Source license if they want to be able to
>compete against Linux.
It's still binary in nature, even if it is encoded. In fact all data are binary. But text and structured text, such as XML, can be interpreted at a higher level with more meaning.
One of the really neat parts of XML is the opportunity to split up the data and the presentation. An obvious way to do this is couple an XML document with a style sheet (CSS or XSL).
- No multiple inheritance. None. Which means you either klidge your design, or use aggregation. Neither of which is pretty in a case where multiple inheritance would work best.
Multiple inheritance reflects poor design. How can anything *be* two things at the same time?
Organizing things in classes and inheriting them represents a way of finite categorization.
- Memory management. If you have a larger application, with complex processing, the memory manager can stall your application for hundreds of milliseconds during the full sweep garbage collection. They still have not solved this satisfactorilly. If your application has tight time contraints, this can be a severe problem.
A few good real-time garbage collectors have been written for Java. They guarantee not to interrupt interpretation for long periods
- The finalize method of dervied classes must explicitly call the finalize method of the base class. Why in the hell did they do this?
This is a misunderstanding from the C++ world. There are no destructor-concept in Java. You, as the programmer, don't need full control over when an object goes away. Just how it should behave.
When you don't need your database connection anymore. Just call.close() and set the reference to null.
Just ban everything coming from the direction of France. It would work.
And the judge would probably change his mind pretty fast.
Oh, and howcome the intercontinental telephone companies are not ruled to make sure French people are not dicussing nazism? hm.
I agree with all the posts here guessing at the shiny-new-toy tendency. I think that this plays a factor.
When asking the above question, I actually hoped that someone who knew a lot about the licensing and patents on this field would come forward and fill the rest of us in. I know for a fact that Michael barnsley from Iterated (former Iterated?) has a bunch of patents on this.
Does that in effect mean that nobody else can implement an open (or commercial for that matter) library based on IFS?
How to do it is pretty accesible knowledge, but I don't know if it's legal at all.
The crown prince of Denmark just came back from pretty much crossing Greenland.
The team updated their web-based diary and sent pictures over their radios. This is distances of up to about 1000 miles, and WHILE talking on nearby frequencies.
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Allow me to comment on this as a Danish citizen.
Allow me to comment, as another Danish citizen.
A Danish newspaper, who have been at the forefront of an ongoing hetz against immigrants and especially muslims,
I read it regularly - they are definately right-wing, but "hetz" I don't recongnize.
published a number of cartoons depicting Mohammed in ways that can only have been meant to express contempt.
The newspaper claims that they weren't meant to offend anywone. They were meant as a provocation of danes on the subject of self-censoring and reluctance of dealing with islam for fear of reprecussions.
The reaction to the cartoons, prove that they were merited, as I'm sure most danes won't critisize, make fun of or deal with islam for a long time to come. Unless they are willingly looking for trouble.
Further, if you have been following Danish news, you will know just how vitriolic and hatefilled the debate has been there for a very long time;
Again you're overdoing it. The debate is way to intolerant for my taste, but not excatly hate filled.
and this is prominent politicians we're talking about.
Only one Danish political party is really "anti" on the subject of immigrants, muslims etc. I'll concur that this party is getting a suprisingly and somewhat scary large amount of votes.
This has even been commented on in foreign news, with horror and disgust. To a moslem depicting the profet is totally forbidden, apparently, which the newspaper in question certainly knew;
They probably did. I didn't. To a muslim, is it also forbidden for someone else to depict mohammed? Why do they get to decide this for everybody?
and not surprisingly a group of Danish moslems vented their anger in their home countries.
And for good measure venting some pictures that weren't even printed in Denmark. Telling that the Danish queen - unpolitical as she is - called for opposition to islam. These people speak danish and live in denmark. They clearly knew better. They might not have expected such a huge reaction though.
This Abu Laban (imam living in Denmark) character said on danish television (in english) that he was actively working to smooth the waters and solve the conflict. The same evening he was on al-jahzerra encouraging boycots and general nastiness against Denmark. And this guy is likely to be in Denmark for humanitarian reasons. I wonder what his actual motives are.
Personally I think it could have been defused then and there if the newspaper or the prime minister had had the decency and backbone to simply apologize;
The newspaper did. According to wikipedia the exact text was this:
In our opinion, the 12 drawings were sober. They were not intended to be offensive, nor were they at variance with Danish law, but they have indisputably offended many Muslims for which we apologize.
after all, there is such a thing as simple politeness, and no one would need to give up fundamental freedoms etc. How much would it actually have cost anybody if our PM had said something like: 'It is not Danish policy to insult people of other cultures, and I apologize for the distress these insensitive pictures have been published. However, I can not dictate what the newspapers print'? Not a thing.
The prime minister can't apologize for something he had nothing to do with. But the other stuff you mention he said preatty much excactly. Where have you been the last two weeks?
Instead there has been a load of stilted nonsense about 'freedom of speech' - what a load of crap. Freedom is not the right to get away with whatever you do - there is a responsibility for all your actions as there should be. If you kick a hornets' nest, you'll get stung.
Well the innocent looking ball turned out to be a hornets nest. Freedom of speech is important. Just consider the fact that the new
then we're talking about not just doubling the cost of an Ipod but tripling it.
...like cars in denmark. 180% tax. When factoring sales tax etc. in you roughly pay for three cars earch time you buy one.
It almost hurts to think how much one has to earn before taxes to buy a car...
-qabi
Qaanaaq isn't Thule Air Base, it's 180 km. away.
Thule Air Base is also called Pituffik.
Impressive area though. I wish these people the best of luck with their trip. It looks like they'll need it...
-qabi
... and I have had MS for the last 11 years, since I was 15. I have not adapted my diet, and eat lots of meat and presumably the various kinds of fat you mention.
Fortunately I still have no serious permanent effects.
I'm sure if doding the effects of MS was as simple as a diet, the established treatment and research communities would have caught on to it...
I think the company was called "Iterated systems" (www.iterated.com - it's on google but doesn't answer) and the guy is called Michael Barnsley or something like that.
It was quite impressive stuff, but never really took off. Probably because of licensing a pricing issues as mentioned elsewhere.
So instead they implemented a media storage and management server: www.mediabin.com, that is apparently now part of interwoven.
-dennis
Bah! That's downright racist speak!
It did not in any way destory the country. It put a burden on the country - but wars tend to do that.
The mentioned features are part of making mySQL ACID complete (which is atill quite far away, I think).
They are not easy to implement either.
-qabi
I sincerely hope that it's better than Tomcat 3.x. We have worked with all versions between 3.2 and 3.2.3, and it's gotten better - but not great.
There are still some concurrency issues under heavy load that makes it go belly up.
Besides it's not excactly lightning fast. We've seen factors of 10-20 times the performance on other Servlet containers.
Well, I guess that's what we've got innovation for!
-dennis
Who is this guy, Mike Angelo, and what's he got agains mozilla?
Why use so harsh language, and why deliberately (I hope!) misinterpres so many obvious things?
If he has so much spare time he needs to burn off, why not go help the mozilla people fix some of the bugs.
I just don't get it.
-dennis
I see that as a good sign though - more versions before release surely means a better final product. Especially with so many guniea pigs ;)
-qabi
I don't quite agree. You don't have to learn Sun's libraries, any more than you need to learn the standard libraries or namespaces in C/C++ to do the same thing.
Try making a highly graphical multithreaded networked application in C/C++ and in Java, and then tell me: which required more knowledge and technical bickering?
Besides: There are other libraries than Sun's (except for the lowest level stuff, unless you make your own VM). You could even make your own library.
-qabi
Chris mentions that Java should not be used as a keystone language for CS education. I agree: No language should be keystone.
-qabi
>I don't know whether it's a joke or not, but it
>really doesn't matter. Sooner or later Microsoft
>is going to be forced to release their code
>under the GPL (GNU Public License) or another
>Open Source license if they want to be able to
>compete against Linux.
Ahh. Nothing as refreshing as optimism...
>That's just an trick Fight that :)
XSL and data binding are really good examples of Microsoft (only) technologies...
I thought that you could also use CSS1 or CSS2 with XML?
It's still binary in nature, even if it is encoded. In fact all data are binary. But text and structured text, such as XML, can be interpreted at a higher level with more meaning.
Not excatly true.
One of the really neat parts of XML is the opportunity to split up the data and the presentation. An obvious way to do this is couple an XML document with a style sheet (CSS or XSL).
Ideally HTML should slowly go away!
- No multiple inheritance. None. Which means you either klidge your design, or use aggregation. Neither of which is pretty in a case where multiple inheritance would work best.
Multiple inheritance reflects poor design. How can anything *be* two things at the same time?
Organizing things in classes and inheriting them represents a way of finite categorization.
- Memory management. If you have a larger application, with complex processing, the memory manager can stall your application for hundreds of milliseconds during the full sweep garbage collection. They still have not solved this satisfactorilly. If your application has tight time contraints, this can be a severe problem.
A few good real-time garbage collectors have been written for Java. They guarantee not to interrupt interpretation for long periods
- The finalize method of dervied classes must explicitly call the finalize method of the base class. Why in the hell did they do this?
This is a misunderstanding from the C++ world. There are no destructor-concept in Java. You, as the programmer, don't need full control over when an object goes away. Just how it should behave. .close() and set the reference to null.
When you don't need your database connection anymore. Just call
Heh - and what are you guys going to do about it? -dennis
Kids nowadays aren't influenced half as much as us, when watching TV commercials. Fortunately.
I think I learned something about the french being part of that...
Just ban everything coming from the direction of France. It would work. And the judge would probably change his mind pretty fast. Oh, and howcome the intercontinental telephone companies are not ruled to make sure French people are not dicussing nazism? hm.
When asking the above question, I actually hoped that someone who knew a lot about the licensing and patents on this field would come forward and fill the rest of us in. I know for a fact that Michael barnsley from Iterated (former Iterated?) has a bunch of patents on this.
Does that in effect mean that nobody else can implement an open (or commercial for that matter) library based on IFS?
How to do it is pretty accesible knowledge, but I don't know if it's legal at all.
-dennis
The crown prince of Denmark just came back from pretty much crossing Greenland.
The team updated their web-based diary and sent pictures over their radios. This is distances of up to about 1000 miles, and WHILE talking on nearby frequencies.
-qabi