I doubt very much that the Apache version of OO.org is going to do much improving at this point. Virtually all of the developers have already jumped ship for Libreoffice
Huh? Are you just quoting something you overheard or have I been duped by a massive conspiracy? Maybe you should start with learning the history of OpenOffice.org before making dumb statements. Sun fucked OpenOffice.org (deliberately). Many developers, who in total had contributed little of the code that made up OpenOffice.org (most came from paid developers) - but who never the less made important contributions to OOo, left when Sun cut them out of input into decisions. Now they contribute a large part of the code to LO (don't overlook Google's contributions). These are not secrets, or a matter "of opinion" - it's not fantasy football - hint: logs. Ditto with the amount of new code in OOo. Perhaps you confuse numbers with quality of product and discount the amount of catch up that the LO team had to deal with (especially shedding the GOo cruft) - a simple check of svn and git commits would dispel that myth. But I'm make it easy for you. It's not rocket science
They're both good products, OOo has more paid full-time coders, LO has more volunteers.
I have yet to find anything that LibreOffice can't do that OO.org can.
Compatibility with MS Office varies with both (particularly with Excel) - but in general OOo does a better job, PDF editing is better in OOo as is the ability to move from Write to Calc or Base. LO still doesn't handle complex math well (that should improve soon). And what of OOXML filters?
You seem to be underestimating the number of patches and the amount of work that wasn't allowed into OO.org when Sun was running things.
You think? I suspect you'd find the OOo team has done a lot since then if you didn't have such a fanboi attitude. And you're definitely overlooking IBM's contributions from Lotus. LO and OOo use different release cycles.
There will be a new release of OOo very soon - they've been busy the last few months doing just what LO is doing (it's almost like they talk to each other).
As much as i hate to say it, time to get the Feds involved, again.
Forget piddly sanctions, or even a "breakup". Shut them down once and for all.
If true....
They don't care - they happily paid the fines for not separating IE.
There's US jobs on the line. (amongst all those work visas)
I haven't had a chance to check the story fully yet - I read the MS pdf - but it doesn't actually say those measure will be applied to all devices. Being able to lock it, and locking it by default are not the same thing.
I suspect the story is true, and that MS will pull a security excuse - they've already managed to convince a lot of people that the internet is the OS, and that Google has the monopoly. And I've never seen any changes in the traditional MS approach to doing business - still no set price for their products and underhand incentives (and disincentives). Maybe if they pull the Sony/Apple appliance excuse the regulators (many of whom MS have hired since their last slap on the wrist) will look the other way.
As the Chinese would say "we live in interesting times".
I think you forgot ACTA. SOPA and PIPA are just the US instances of the ACTA virus.
They expect the EU (and actually the whole world) to have them too.
Let's apply the SOPA logic to other things to... if someone asks you for directions to a bank and they rob it then you should be liable. Farewell GPS and maps, we barely knew thee.
SOPA is a very silly piece of legislation but we already have the US attempting to extradite someone from the UK for hosting links. SOPA just codifies such gross stupidity in US law.
Sadly logic works well in code, but craps out in reality.
Aside from the technical issues - the real problem is that the US will just declare war on cyber terrorism - a phrase that can take on any meaning. And any country not on their side....
Don't forget where ICAAN is - or do you think it's an independent organisation like the UN? If Microsoft can go on license raids with Russian police how long before Disney goes on door kicking adventures in Spain. Already ICE has declared war on counterfeit copies of goods that are not made in the US. And a UK citizen is being extradited for something that's not illegal in the UK.
The US is hellbent on the way to being a "nuclear damage zone", to be routed around. Inside, people will need a encrypted channel to a "neutral" server outside the US in a freer country to surf from.
More like some, extremely influential people, groups, and companies are hell-bent on having the US control the entire internet. But don't be thinking that it's a US only thing. It upsets the established order - just like printing. Whether they'll succeed or not is another thing. I'm not expecting Facebook, eBay, Amazon, PayPal or climate change deniers to step up for net neutrality. For that to occur we'd need a change in education which won't happen over night. As long as people believe "terrorism" is not something police should deal with then we'll just have another war - this time on "piracy" or "threats to US jobs".
Note that printing was invented a long time before Gutenberg.
P.S.=> How many accounts is that you're up to now? Well, lol, let's see: I said 500 on a guess, & MichaelKristopeit412 looks like your 412th, lmao... I was wrong, but (rotflmao)... who cares?? Why??
Well - You're the "Man..." (See song above, lol, same quality as you, lol)../quote)... apk
LIbreOffice hasn't been OO in well over a year. But nice try with the trolling.
It also includes a fair bit of Go-oo. That and the work to remove Java means it's a substantially different code base.
It still has a ways to go before it can do what OpenOffice.org can do - and now that OpenOffice.org is under Apache I expect OO will continue to improve (also).
We (Netherlands) use form with all the candidates, you mark the box for the person you want to vote for. Easy, and hard to do wrong. Writing down numbers is asking for unclearly written votes.
Interesting. So most votes is the winner?.
Writing down number has it's problems - which the column method doesn't suffer from. I think you'll find that the plural (and approval) systems have similar problems (tick none, tick both, cross not tick, etc) though they're easy for the base unit to understand than preferential.
I like the Debian condorcet method, but I doubt the Australian public would.
Actually I was referring to the UK. In Ireland they do use numbers. Depends on the voting system. UK is First Past the Post, Ireland is Single Transferable Vote.
With the benefit of hindsight your username should have answered the question for me.
On this call (first 2 minutes) you can clearly hear Douglas identify himself as Google Kenya employee, state, and then reaffirm, that GKBO is working in collaboration with Mocality, and that we are helping them with GKBO, before trying to offer the business owner a website (and upsell them a domain name). Over the 11 minutes of the whole call he repeatedly states that Mocality is with, or under (!) Google.
If the allegations in this article are true, this is where they really cross the line. Harvesting a publicly available database and then contacting those businesses to sell them something is fine (though a little sleazy for a mainstream business like Google). But then trying to claim that you're working with that company when you're not is just plain fraud. It would be like some random insurance company calling people up and saying "Hi, we're working with your mortgage holder, Bank of Topeka, and would like to offer you a special insurance deal...in conjunction with Bank of Topeka."
In fact, Mocality found out about this whole scam when customers started calling them up and asking for support for their new websites (thinking Mocality were the ones who had sold them the sites). I guess it never occurred to Google that this would happen and that Mocality would want to know why.
We get a similar thing happening here in Australia - a large Sydney based company rings businesses and claims to be Google (I know that they are not) and tries to sell overpriced SEO services. Often the fact that they're not actually Google isn't apparent until the business rings Google to complain about the poor service. On a number of occasions this company has rang my clients and tried to pass themselves off as Google or Google "endorsed" - often within a day or two of putting up a new website (so they monitor our work). I've had several clients who forked out thousands for non-existant SEO (we consider SEO to be part of basic site design - not an add on). In one recent incident the client was conned into paying $AU12K when they already ranked #1, 2, and 3 in search results for the same term.
I'm one of many people who've rung Google and asked why they believe that this company, with so many complaints against it, is allowed to get off with the excuse that their sales staff were either misinterpreted or acting without authorisation.
Google Australia would do well to sack that fat, lying, obnoxious Californian who tries to bury all the complaints. Their failure to sever their relationship with the top Google Ad selling company and the relationship between their advertising manager and the director of that company do them no favours.
Been coding for 30 years (can't hardly believe it's been that long). And have worked with / for / supervised / taught many developers over that time, and the one thing that was paramount to success was the ability to think / structure logically. Languages / syntax / frameworks can be learned, classes can be taken, you can self-teach, but if a person is not able 'think logic' they would never be a good developer. If a person can't understand concepts like loops (do this until I say to stop) then I does not matter how many classes or what language they learn.
Well put. Reminds me of a debate I overheard amongst some programming job applicants at a friends office. They were arguing over what "putting the cart before the horse meant". None of them were right.
I mentioned it to my friend over lunch and he noted that all three applicants I'd overheard had no portfolios of code they'd written, and were rude and arrogant*1 - basically they'd expected to get hired solely on the basis of having graduated from university. None of the three had been employed in the years since graduating - and used that as a reason for not having a work portfolio. (There's a joke about circular logic there somewhere). The same university has turned out some of the best programmers I've come across - so it's not just down to the institution.
*1When, individually, shown around where they'd be working if hired, they had all badmouthed the systems and hardware in use. They had probably seen it as showcasing their knowledge but had just come off as condescending and smug. Another failure to demonstrate logic - especially given the calibre of the programmers they'd have been working with.
So you've basically closed the door to all of the talent that has been working on coding for proprietary systems over the years.
Sure, that probably works for you with the glut of programmers out there, but its a lousy way of runnning a business, and certainly you're closing the door on a vast array of people who may have done what you want done, but didn't happen to have been doing it in the F/OSS world.
Show me where I said I don't hire people from closed source backgrounds.
I don't hire people who's ability I can't check. I also don't hire people who can't spell - saves paying others to debug their code. Interpret that as you will.
All you need is a couple of midgets, a parrot, a bartender and an Irish nun.
But this is serious - the need to shut down, and block search engines that link to them. any sites the US DOJ considers puts American jobs at threat. Like fake Gucci, Reebok, Adidas items - that rob sales of companies that employ so many North Americans. And those big movies (made in New Zealand or Australia), that never seem to make a profit (because of the pirates). Jobs, it's just about jobs [insert tasteful joke about dead marketing "genius" here]. If he could point at foreign websites selling pirate cheese I'd buy the concerned, but senile politician line - but as it is he's the one who appears to have been bought. But as several "Vermonters" and the "majority of ISPs" (Cable companies) are "concerned" - he might, maybe, possibly, consider, a bit of a test first (to see if anyone is awake) before pushing through the legislation needed to begin another stupid war. I'm betting that jobs line will get the bill through.
That anarchic internet was nice while it lasted, but it just isn't enough like television for some "people" (sigh).
Really, I'm currently in the position of needing to hire a couple-few good solid developers and am having a hard time finding applicants
We found Open Source projects are the best way to find, and assess, good programmers. If people are talented, and dedicated, they produce. We advertise positions through the local Linux Users Group - if the applicants have contributed to Open Source projects it's easy to check their ability and character. As it's rare to find people with experience in exactly what we want done - it's preferable to hunt for people with a demonstrated ability to learn what's required. Resumes don't cover that the way a mailing list, irc and git logs do.
Two of our best staff have no tertiary education (or programming school) - one of them is a retired secondary school teacher (language teacher).
You seriously think that CodeAcademy is something even remotely unique? Here's a clue, it's not. These "teach yourself programming" things have been around for decades, and there is absolutely NOTHING unique about CodeAcademy save for it's buzz marketing campaign. Thats why people look down on it.
Agreed. Computer Power => bankrupted and deregistered => arises from the ashes as Computer Training Institute, rinse and repeat => Spherion. Cue the ads of the guy with the BMW. And yes they actually get jobs just *as* (*not* like) the ads promise - unfortunately some are in the industry writing code rather than data entry for Sperion's sister company.
If it sounds too good to be true - it generally is.
There are people who can become proficient coders in a language inside 12 months. They're generally building on existing computer knowledge and are literate and numerate. Those sorts of people probably won't be well served by that sort of course (they tend to quit) because they can learn more, faster, from books and by pulling apart other people's code. Those sort of people are few and far between - they can also do a lot of other jobs. Most people take 3 -4 years to become proficient in a single language. There's a yawning gap between capable and proficient.
The majority of people who describe themselves as "programmers" are not proficient, and probably never will be - they can't read or spell, or do basic math. They cut and paste code when not watching "training" videos on Youtube and "webinars". Like "web designeers" that can't write lucid CSS the industry today tends to attract the classic "geek" - the sort our grandparents paid a nickel to see in a cage. Except instead of a pointy head or fish feet they've got Asberger's Syndrome and extreme laziness (they call it dyslexia). Encouraging those sort of people to give up a career in fast food or car detailing just robs their parents of the little money they have, creates more crap software, and pushes down wages for many of the good programmers. Not good for business in general.
For every Keith Packard and Theo Tso there's a thousand idiots with a greater knowledge of Star Wars quotes than programming. CodeAcademy can probably teach a dog to code, and maybe even Bloomberg, but being able to write "Hello Whirled" in Javascript is not much of an achievement on it's own, especially when a useful Javascript coder needs to know at least HTML, and CSS, and be able to work with different frameworks - or even without a framework. Maybe even the ability to write up a report, research and study independently, communicate with others, understand technical specifications, debug other peoples work etc. And a day to write a jquery for a website that the client is paying $1000 for? It's not possible to teach people all that in a year. Next applicant please.
Smudges are only a problem for optical scanners. Hand counted ballots typically use a system of marking with a cross. The centre of a cross is pretty accurate and unambiguous, even if smudged.
Are you talking about Ireland or elsewhere. Many civilised countries use numbers. Weird huh?
I've been an Elections Inspector in New York State since 2004. You are seriously underestimating the logistical difficulties in counting the votes by hand.
You bet - we've had an Electronic Scrutineering (Vote Counting) system in use for almost a decade in Canberra and Tasmania (Australia). It's fast and accurate, cheap, and a hell of a lot harder (virtually impossible) to cheat
Previously votes were counted by volunteers - it was common practise to dispute unclear numbering, and even "fudge" votes with a quick pencil - very common to invalidate votes for other candidates.
I'm no fan of electronic voting though - that's putting all the eggs in one basket, and I've yet to see a system proposed that was likely to prevent manipulation of the results.
That all three are of the same sex? I'm fairly sure he wouldn't have made the distinction if it where three boys. My supposition aside, 3/3 isn't that statistically interesting.
Maybe you're missing the point. A lot of males are surprised that women can do anything other than have babies (with the assistance of males). But fear not - any evidence to the contrary will quickly fade from their memory to be replaced with the handpicked "proof" of the "understanding" or "their" world.
The world is full of morons. Cue the "pictures as proof" posts by the gene pool rejects. The sort that stupidly trot out terms like "patronizing" when they feel some "woman" is lecturing them. (which would be "matronizing" wouldn't it?) But, but. weasel roll etc.
Read his post history, there's no if. I've seen five or six posts from him in the last week and every one of them reads like an MS press release (or is a direct attack on one of MS' competitors). You make a good point, I can understand them shilling their bad products but shilling their good products just makes people distrustful without reason.
Employing a wide brush on your part isn't doing much to advance critical thinking. Quite the reverse. Fan bois are dumb all over. It's science, not talisman magic
I'm not exactly pro-MS but DTech is correct. MSE is actually one of the better anti-virus programs for windows these days. You can't fault MS for snapping up a company/product that worked well and then including it for free in their (buggy and insecure) OS. It's at least one thing they did right.
I hate Microsoft - but I agree they've substantially lifted their game (market forces at work, MS created the antivirus industry, now they're killing it). And I wouldn't call DTech's post shilling - he/she carefully noted the circumstances in which the OS is being used.
But to be totally fair - I only believe a machine running *any* OS is *clean* when I've had it running on a monitored network for some time. Until then it's sheer guesswork (apply the same methodology to determining you don't have cancer).
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I doubt very much that the Apache version of OO.org is going to do much improving at this point. Virtually all of the developers have already jumped ship for Libreoffice
Huh? Are you just quoting something you overheard or have I been duped by a massive conspiracy? Maybe you should start with learning the history of OpenOffice.org before making dumb statements. Sun fucked OpenOffice.org (deliberately). Many developers, who in total had contributed little of the code that made up OpenOffice.org (most came from paid developers) - but who never the less made important contributions to OOo, left when Sun cut them out of input into decisions. Now they contribute a large part of the code to LO (don't overlook Google's contributions). These are not secrets, or a matter "of opinion" - it's not fantasy football - hint: logs. Ditto with the amount of new code in OOo. Perhaps you confuse numbers with quality of product and discount the amount of catch up that the LO team had to deal with (especially shedding the GOo cruft) - a simple check of svn and git commits would dispel that myth. But I'm make it easy for you. It's not rocket science
They're both good products, OOo has more paid full-time coders, LO has more volunteers.
I have yet to find anything that LibreOffice can't do that OO.org can.
Compatibility with MS Office varies with both (particularly with Excel) - but in general OOo does a better job, PDF editing is better in OOo as is the ability to move from Write to Calc or Base. LO still doesn't handle complex math well (that should improve soon). And what of OOXML filters?
You seem to be underestimating the number of patches and the amount of work that wasn't allowed into OO.org when Sun was running things.
You think? I suspect you'd find the OOo team has done a lot since then if you didn't have such a fanboi attitude. And you're definitely overlooking IBM's contributions from Lotus. LO and OOo use different release cycles.
There will be a new release of OOo very soon - they've been busy the last few months doing just what LO is doing (it's almost like they talk to each other).
As much as i hate to say it, time to get the Feds involved, again.
Forget piddly sanctions, or even a "breakup". Shut them down once and for all.
If true....
I haven't had a chance to check the story fully yet - I read the MS pdf - but it doesn't actually say those measure will be applied to all devices. Being able to lock it, and locking it by default are not the same thing.
I suspect the story is true, and that MS will pull a security excuse - they've already managed to convince a lot of people that the internet is the OS, and that Google has the monopoly. And I've never seen any changes in the traditional MS approach to doing business - still no set price for their products and underhand incentives (and disincentives). Maybe if they pull the Sony/Apple appliance excuse the regulators (many of whom MS have hired since their last slap on the wrist) will look the other way.
As the Chinese would say "we live in interesting times".
I think you forgot ACTA. SOPA and PIPA are just the US instances of the ACTA virus. They expect the EU (and actually the whole world) to have them too.
Yes they do. Sadly.
Just like they expected EU and the rest of the world to either look the other way or join them in their other wars.
Let's apply the SOPA logic to other things to... if someone asks you for directions to a bank and they rob it then you should be liable. Farewell GPS and maps, we barely knew thee.
SOPA is a very silly piece of legislation but we already have the US attempting to extradite someone from the UK for hosting links. SOPA just codifies such gross stupidity in US law.
Sadly logic works well in code, but craps out in reality.
A fair suggestion, but some issues.
Aside from the technical issues - the real problem is that the US will just declare war on cyber terrorism - a phrase that can take on any meaning. And any country not on their side....
Don't forget where ICAAN is - or do you think it's an independent organisation like the UN? If Microsoft can go on license raids with Russian police how long before Disney goes on door kicking adventures in Spain. Already ICE has declared war on counterfeit copies of goods that are not made in the US. And a UK citizen is being extradited for something that's not illegal in the UK.
The US is hellbent on the way to being a "nuclear damage zone", to be routed around. Inside, people will need a encrypted channel to a "neutral" server outside the US in a freer country to surf from.
More like some, extremely influential people, groups, and companies are hell-bent on having the US control the entire internet. But don't be thinking that it's a US only thing. It upsets the established order - just like printing. Whether they'll succeed or not is another thing. I'm not expecting Facebook, eBay, Amazon, PayPal or climate change deniers to step up for net neutrality. For that to occur we'd need a change in education which won't happen over night. As long as people believe "terrorism" is not something police should deal with then we'll just have another war - this time on "piracy" or "threats to US jobs".
Note that printing was invented a long time before Gutenberg.
LMAO -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrUGYT_gl9I = MikeK, lol...
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P.S.=> How many accounts is that you're up to now? Well, lol, let's see: I said 500 on a guess, & MichaelKristopeit412 looks like your 412th, lmao... I was wrong, but (rotflmao)... who cares?? Why??
Well - You're the "Man..." (See song above, lol, same quality as you, lol).. /quote)... apk
Troll fight! Humongous host file vs. pig fucker.
The only possible winner is - everybody else.
LIbreOffice hasn't been OO in well over a year. But nice try with the trolling.
It also includes a fair bit of Go-oo. That and the work to remove Java means it's a substantially different code base.
It still has a ways to go before it can do what OpenOffice.org can do - and now that OpenOffice.org is under Apache I expect OO will continue to improve (also).
Yes, you bring your doctor a thumb drive with 3 billion base pairs of your genome, coding for 23,000 genes. Do you know what he says?
"What am I supposed to do with that?"
Maybe you should get a doctor that knows what an USB thumb drive is?
Then you can move onto the next problem.... (who's your daddy?)
We (Netherlands) use form with all the candidates, you mark the box for the person you want to vote for. Easy, and hard to do wrong. Writing down numbers is asking for unclearly written votes.
Interesting. So most votes is the winner?.
Writing down number has it's problems - which the column method doesn't suffer from. I think you'll find that the plural (and approval) systems have similar problems (tick none, tick both, cross not tick, etc) though they're easy for the base unit to understand than preferential.
I like the Debian condorcet method, but I doubt the Australian public would.
Actually I was referring to the UK. In Ireland they do use numbers. Depends on the voting system. UK is First Past the Post, Ireland is Single Transferable Vote.
With the benefit of hindsight your username should have answered the question for me.
Next up: Extradition because you violated a website's policies.
that will tieup the courts and jury trials.
Good luck getting a jury to under stand the policies and in court it will take a lot of time to read out a 50 page policies any ways.
Plenty of room for more courthouses in Texas. They could make it compulsory for defendants to buy pink panties and live in tents.
I hear ICE is lunching with the producers of COPS....
FTFA:
On this call (first 2 minutes) you can clearly hear Douglas identify himself as Google Kenya employee, state, and then reaffirm, that GKBO is working in collaboration with Mocality, and that we are helping them with GKBO, before trying to offer the business owner a website (and upsell them a domain name). Over the 11 minutes of the whole call he repeatedly states that Mocality is with, or under (!) Google.
If the allegations in this article are true, this is where they really cross the line. Harvesting a publicly available database and then contacting those businesses to sell them something is fine (though a little sleazy for a mainstream business like Google). But then trying to claim that you're working with that company when you're not is just plain fraud. It would be like some random insurance company calling people up and saying "Hi, we're working with your mortgage holder, Bank of Topeka, and would like to offer you a special insurance deal...in conjunction with Bank of Topeka."
In fact, Mocality found out about this whole scam when customers started calling them up and asking for support for their new websites (thinking Mocality were the ones who had sold them the sites). I guess it never occurred to Google that this would happen and that Mocality would want to know why.
We get a similar thing happening here in Australia - a large Sydney based company rings businesses and claims to be Google (I know that they are not) and tries to sell overpriced SEO services. Often the fact that they're not actually Google isn't apparent until the business rings Google to complain about the poor service. On a number of occasions this company has rang my clients and tried to pass themselves off as Google or Google "endorsed" - often within a day or two of putting up a new website (so they monitor our work). I've had several clients who forked out thousands for non-existant SEO (we consider SEO to be part of basic site design - not an add on). In one recent incident the client was conned into paying $AU12K when they already ranked #1, 2, and 3 in search results for the same term.
I'm one of many people who've rung Google and asked why they believe that this company, with so many complaints against it, is allowed to get off with the excuse that their sales staff were either misinterpreted or acting without authorisation.
Google Australia would do well to sack that fat, lying, obnoxious Californian who tries to bury all the complaints. Their failure to sever their relationship with the top Google Ad selling company and the relationship between their advertising manager and the director of that company do them no favours.
Been coding for 30 years (can't hardly believe it's been that long). And have worked with / for / supervised / taught many developers over that time, and the one thing that was paramount to success was the ability to think / structure logically. Languages / syntax / frameworks can be learned, classes can be taken, you can self-teach, but if a person is not able 'think logic' they would never be a good developer. If a person can't understand concepts like loops (do this until I say to stop) then I does not matter how many classes or what language they learn.
Well put. Reminds me of a debate I overheard amongst some programming job applicants at a friends office. They were arguing over what "putting the cart before the horse meant". None of them were right.
I mentioned it to my friend over lunch and he noted that all three applicants I'd overheard had no portfolios of code they'd written, and were rude and arrogant*1 - basically they'd expected to get hired solely on the basis of having graduated from university. None of the three had been employed in the years since graduating - and used that as a reason for not having a work portfolio. (There's a joke about circular logic there somewhere). The same university has turned out some of the best programmers I've come across - so it's not just down to the institution.
*1When, individually, shown around where they'd be working if hired, they had all badmouthed the systems and hardware in use.
They had probably seen it as showcasing their knowledge but had just come off as condescending and smug. Another failure to demonstrate logic - especially given the calibre of the programmers they'd have been working with.
It's funny that you mentioned not hiring people who cannot spell and yet misspelled whose.
Hilarious isn't it.
Maybe you could put your innate nitpicking abilities to good use - open a delousing stand somewhere.
So you've basically closed the door to all of the talent that has been working on coding for proprietary systems over the years. Sure, that probably works for you with the glut of programmers out there, but its a lousy way of runnning a business, and certainly you're closing the door on a vast array of people who may have done what you want done, but didn't happen to have been doing it in the F/OSS world.
Show me where I said I don't hire people from closed source backgrounds.
I don't hire people who's ability I can't check. I also don't hire people who can't spell - saves paying others to debug their code. Interpret that as you will.
All you need is a couple of midgets, a parrot, a bartender and an Irish nun.
But this is serious - the need to shut down, and block search engines that link to them. any sites the US DOJ considers puts American jobs at threat. Like fake Gucci, Reebok, Adidas items - that rob sales of companies that employ so many North Americans. And those big movies (made in New Zealand or Australia), that never seem to make a profit (because of the pirates). Jobs, it's just about jobs [insert tasteful joke about dead marketing "genius" here].
If he could point at foreign websites selling pirate cheese I'd buy the concerned, but senile politician line - but as it is he's the one who appears to have been bought.
But as several "Vermonters" and the "majority of ISPs" (Cable companies) are "concerned" - he might, maybe, possibly, consider, a bit of a test first (to see if anyone is awake) before pushing through the legislation needed to begin another stupid war. I'm betting that jobs line will get the bill through.
That anarchic internet was nice while it lasted, but it just isn't enough like television for some "people" (sigh).
Really, I'm currently in the position of needing to hire a couple-few good solid developers and am having a hard time finding applicants
We found Open Source projects are the best way to find, and assess, good programmers. If people are talented, and dedicated, they produce. We advertise positions through the local Linux Users Group - if the applicants have contributed to Open Source projects it's easy to check their ability and character. As it's rare to find people with experience in exactly what we want done - it's preferable to hunt for people with a demonstrated ability to learn what's required. Resumes don't cover that the way a mailing list, irc and git logs do.
Two of our best staff have no tertiary education (or programming school) - one of them is a retired secondary school teacher (language teacher).
You seriously think that CodeAcademy is something even remotely unique? Here's a clue, it's not. These "teach yourself programming" things have been around for decades, and there is absolutely NOTHING unique about CodeAcademy save for it's buzz marketing campaign. Thats why people look down on it.
Agreed.
Computer Power => bankrupted and deregistered => arises from the ashes as Computer Training Institute, rinse and repeat => Spherion. Cue the ads of the guy with the BMW. And yes they actually get jobs just *as* (*not* like) the ads promise - unfortunately some are in the industry writing code rather than data entry for Sperion's sister company.
If it sounds too good to be true - it generally is.
There are people who can become proficient coders in a language inside 12 months. They're generally building on existing computer knowledge and are literate and numerate. Those sorts of people probably won't be well served by that sort of course (they tend to quit) because they can learn more, faster, from books and by pulling apart other people's code. Those sort of people are few and far between - they can also do a lot of other jobs. Most people take 3 -4 years to become proficient in a single language. There's a yawning gap between capable and proficient.
The majority of people who describe themselves as "programmers" are not proficient, and probably never will be - they can't read or spell, or do basic math. They cut and paste code when not watching "training" videos on Youtube and "webinars". Like "web designeers" that can't write lucid CSS the industry today tends to attract the classic "geek" - the sort our grandparents paid a nickel to see in a cage. Except instead of a pointy head or fish feet they've got Asberger's Syndrome and extreme laziness (they call it dyslexia). Encouraging those sort of people to give up a career in fast food or car detailing just robs their parents of the little money they have, creates more crap software, and pushes down wages for many of the good programmers. Not good for business in general.
For every Keith Packard and Theo Tso there's a thousand idiots with a greater knowledge of Star Wars quotes than programming. CodeAcademy can probably teach a dog to code, and maybe even Bloomberg, but being able to write "Hello Whirled" in Javascript is not much of an achievement on it's own, especially when a useful Javascript coder needs to know at least HTML, and CSS, and be able to work with different frameworks - or even without a framework. Maybe even the ability to write up a report, research and study independently, communicate with others, understand technical specifications, debug other peoples work etc. And a day to write a jquery for a website that the client is paying $1000 for? It's not possible to teach people all that in a year.
Next applicant please.
Smudges are only a problem for optical scanners. Hand counted ballots typically use a system of marking with a cross. The centre of a cross is pretty accurate and unambiguous, even if smudged.
Are you talking about Ireland or elsewhere. Many civilised countries use numbers. Weird huh?
I've been an Elections Inspector in New York State since 2004. You are seriously underestimating the logistical difficulties in counting the votes by hand.
You bet - we've had an Electronic Scrutineering (Vote Counting) system in use for almost a decade in Canberra and Tasmania (Australia). It's fast and accurate, cheap, and a hell of a lot harder (virtually impossible) to cheat
Previously votes were counted by volunteers - it was common practise to dispute unclear numbering, and even "fudge" votes with a quick pencil - very common to invalidate votes for other candidates.
I'm no fan of electronic voting though - that's putting all the eggs in one basket, and I've yet to see a system proposed that was likely to prevent manipulation of the results.
How so?
That all three are of the same sex? I'm fairly sure he wouldn't have made the distinction if it where three boys. My supposition aside, 3/3 isn't that statistically interesting.
Maybe you're missing the point. A lot of males are surprised that women can do anything other than have babies (with the assistance of males). But fear not - any evidence to the contrary will quickly fade from their memory to be replaced with the handpicked "proof" of the "understanding" or "their" world.
The world is full of morons. Cue the "pictures as proof" posts by the gene pool rejects. The sort that stupidly trot out terms like "patronizing" when they feel some "woman" is lecturing them. (which would be "matronizing" wouldn't it?)
But, but. weasel roll etc.
Read his post history, there's no if. I've seen five or six posts from him in the last week and every one of them reads like an MS press release (or is a direct attack on one of MS' competitors). You make a good point, I can understand them shilling their bad products but shilling their good products just makes people distrustful without reason.
Employing a wide brush on your part isn't doing much to advance critical thinking. Quite the reverse.
Fan bois are dumb all over. It's science, not talisman magic
Disclaimer - I only run GNU/Linux and FreeBSD.
I'm not exactly pro-MS but DTech is correct. MSE is actually one of the better anti-virus programs for windows these days. You can't fault MS for snapping up a company/product that worked well and then including it for free in their (buggy and insecure) OS. It's at least one thing they did right.
I hate Microsoft - but I agree they've substantially lifted their game (market forces at work, MS created the antivirus industry, now they're killing it). And I wouldn't call DTech's post shilling - he/she carefully noted the circumstances in which the OS is being used.
But to be totally fair - I only believe a machine running *any* OS is *clean* when I've had it running on a monitored network for some time. Until then it's sheer guesswork (apply the same methodology to determining you don't have cancer).
I read that as: US Research Open Access only in Perl
Bloody Larry and his language monopoly... oh sorry, I was all caught up in this Google hate thing.
Carry on.